Re: [AFMUG] does anyone have a contact at govnet?

These ones: http://www.govnet.net/ or these ones: http://www.govnet.com/ I'm assuming these ones: http://www2.ntia.doc.gov/grantee/govnet-llc - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory

Re: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

Answer to your question Adam is no. The “Super Cookie” is an interesting point to bring up because it’s something that was done on the device and they just so happen to be a service provider. Obviously this can be done by any of the folks that create OS’s and works way better with social

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

Don't Mormons have big families? Aren't parts of Utah rather rugged? They might need that truck to get the groceries. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11ay interview/info

No one needs it, but with these and similar platforms, you can deliver it. :-) People buy based on what they think they need, regardless of what they really need. Note the dominance of the cable industry as evidence of this. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH install practices

Do you have some pictures of all this Sterling? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH install practices We would like an all outdoor combined NID/ONT with snap in/out electronics for

Re: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

There is a lot more to it that what meets the eye, or even how you and I may look at this today Lots of 'content' companies have been collecting data and are able to tie it together... e.g. Google is able to track where you Cell phone is (gps data) and cause you are logged in... If you

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Forrest…. Would love have and SPF on the sitemonitors!I don’t like having a wall wart plugged in to AC to monitor voltage and then an copper Ethernet connection into our routers. SFP (fiber) would keep it clean. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Good idea! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul McCall" To: af@afmug.com Cc: "f...@mt.net" Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:32:50 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

RB260. Haven't had one fail due to cold yet that I know of. That's a switch, so maybe it's more complicated than you're going for. -- Original Message -- From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "af" Sent: 3/30/2017 1:45:52 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Italian Mexican Food

No...Beer here is shit. I did see Corona in the store, but opted for some Irish Micro Brew instead. Most places that sell beer just sell "beer". It's like in movies when they go up to the bar and order a "beer" instead of a Bud or a Guiness or something. Literally, they have 1 beer they sell.

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

BIND or Unbound. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Matt wrote: > Speaking of that what is everyone using for a DNS resolver now days? > > > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Dennis Burgess > wrote: > > Why you should have your own DNS

[AFMUG] OT non PC

Visiting my latest grandchild last week, I pulled out an old joke that my (frequently ribald) mother told me as a kid. After the stunned deer-in-the-headlights look that my daughters gave me after telling the joke I realized that they did not have the cultural context to appreciate such high

[AFMUG] cnPilot r190

There's a webinar on April 27 for it but I don't see the product anywhere. Anyone know what this is? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

21ms ping times here. We use it as a tertiary. No issues that I can see coming from SLC. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Tim Reichhart < timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: > Is anybody else having issues with google dns? because when I ping 8.8.8.8 > I get timedout or takes forever to

Re: [AFMUG] OT non PC

I definitely remember Pollack jokes. I'm pretty sure I've heard that one before. What has two wings and one arrow? A chinese telephone: "wing wing. ehrrow?" -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/30/2017 11:07:03 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

C:\Users\jluthman>dig google.com @8.8.8.8 +short 172.217.10.238 C:\Users\jluthman>dig google.com @8.8.4.4 +short 172.217.10.238 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Jeremy

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless HDMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b12_UcmjWNc -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless HDMI Reporting back after a couple hours in use. This one works very

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Italian Mexican Food

Yep... They are snobbish on that On Mar 30, 2017 8:07 AM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > No...Beer here is shit. I did see Corona in the store, but opted for some > Irish Micro Brew instead. Most places that sell beer just sell "beer". It's > like in movies when they go up to the

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless HDMI

Reporting back after a couple hours in use. This one works very well. Fast refresh. Watching videos is as smooth as my normal monitor Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 6:15 PM To: af@afmug.com

[AFMUG] TowerCoverage Basic Webinar

https://register.gotowebinar.com/rt/8925777501682173186 Starting in about 20 min, 11am CST. Free to everyone! Just last minute FYI! Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant

[AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Is anybody else having issues with google dns? because when I ping 8.8.8.8 I get timedout or takes forever to load google.com

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Speaking of that what is everyone using for a DNS resolver now days? On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Why you should have your own DNS servers :) > > > Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant > MikroTik Certified

Re: [AFMUG] does anyone have a contact at govnet?

Yea. They are there, they just don’t answer the phone or respond to emails. Good to see $90M of taxpayer money going to good use. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] does anyone have

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Why you should have your own DNS servers :) Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com Office:

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Are you willing to work a full time crew management job for free? The costs include all crew salaries, construction equipment and management to keep crew busy/around. No management and profit, no crew. If you are adding it to your existing company, then you need to add expense to manage it.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP1000 Max PTP length

If you're gonna go through all that, use ePMP 2k Lite's for the Tx & Rx filtering. I assume you're going to be doing 2 or 3 foot dishes at 23 miles anyway. TDD PTP = 40 miles ePTP 10/20MHz = 32 miles ePTP 40MHz = 15 miles I assume you want TDD PTP for sync. ePTP cannot be sync'd. On

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

As time goes on, it appears that this will be a great opportunity for someone to come up with a model to do fiber build outs as a service to others. If you can figure out where all the time goes and eliminate that part of it , you might be able to make some real $$$. -bp On Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I am trying to save the money on building my own stuff. But yeah, a nice lean model with best practices and procedures will work both ways. Most fiber contractors I know are very busy. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

February came and went though =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > "R190 HSB 2x2 802.11 Wave1" > >

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

There are companies that already do this. They contract for CenturyLink, AT, Time Warner, etc. We hired one to do all of our outside plant. Lots of  to be made if you do it right and have a good crew. They always hire local labor for ditch digging, but their splice crews and management are

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

But I do not want to pay them to make a profit doing this. I want it done at cost. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team There are companies that already do this. They contract for CenturyLink, AT,

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Even non-profits make money. On Mar 30, 2017 12:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > But I do not want to pay them to make a profit doing this. I want it done > at cost. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:52 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Unbound. I swear this conversation seems familiar... as if it was just talked about on WISP-Talk earlier this morning. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt"

Re: [AFMUG] 2.4 epmp and packetflux

Forest, We are running the sites on 200 foot wires. Power injector is in fact Gig and no jumpers were changed running on 48 volts. We are running through MTOW suppression REVD however we have bypassed the suppression to see if it makes a difference. It did not. I have also bypassed the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP1000 Max PTP length

If you can deal with the slightly higher latency involved in running tdd-ptp mode I'm not sure that there is a hard limit for ePMP. If there is it is likely 60+ miles. Running ePTP mode though there are distance limits of 32 miles for 20Mhz and 15 Miles for 40Mhz. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:36

[AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I am considering building a construction team that can drop into a small town or large subdivision, install fiber and move on. Something where I own the construction equipment and keep labor costs low. Want to identify the minimum equipment necessary and the methods of construction to

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

> BIND or Unbound. On centos 7? Stock version included with Centos? > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Matt wrote: >> >> Speaking of that what is everyone using for a DNS resolver now days? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Dennis Burgess >>

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Unless they're shit. On Mar 30, 2017 11:04 AM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > On the flip side. It's tough to beat the reliability of a DNS server > managed by a mega billion $$$ company with specialized IT guys babysitting > everything. > > Jon Langeler > Michwave

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

For authoritative DNS, sure.. but, you should really run your own on-net recursive resolvers. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > On the flip side. It's tough to beat the reliability of a DNS server > managed by a mega billion $$$ company with

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

It's something along that line, but I'm guessing it's like the R200 - 2ghz only - with internal antennas. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:24 PM, George Skorup wrote: > No idea.

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless HDMI

Which one is this? -Original Message- From: Paul McCall Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless HDMI Reporting back after a couple hours in use. This one works very well. Fast refresh. Watching videos is as smooth as my normal monitor

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

I know it's not normal, but I use a couple of Mac servers for DNS. They're very easy to deploy and manage, and very little effort to make them and keep them redundant. When I say berry little, I mean it's a single check box. They are more reliable than any other server I have. Thank you, Brett

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Don't use Google DNS, or any other off-net DNS. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Tim Reichhart" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

On the flip side. It's tough to beat the reliability of a DNS server managed by a mega billion $$$ company with specialized IT guys babysitting everything. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 30, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > > Why you

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Until they throttle your DNS traffic... or worse. Also, having off-net DNS resolvers means you're potentially not being served by the best CDN nodes for your network. That makes the performance of much of the Internet shit. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

No idea. Based on the name though, wouldn't surprise me if it's just a 150N version of the R200. Also wouldn't surprise me if I was completely wrong. On 3/30/2017 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: There's a webinar on April 27 for it but I don't see the product anywhere. Anyone know what this

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Stock BIND is fine most of the time, unless you require some new feature not available in EL. Security patches are backported into EL packages. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Matt wrote: > > BIND or Unbound. > > On centos 7? Stock version included with Centos?

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Well, I assign it via DHCP to my clients because it is actually very ‘close’ and appropriate to one of my provider networks anyways. I did some speed checks and it’s very good for the most part. Except when it’s not resolving or responding, lol! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf

[AFMUG] ePMP1000 Max PTP length

The subject says it all. What is the Maximum link length that a ePMP1000 GPS Lite 5ghz will allow? More than likely replacing a Mimosa b5c link that is 23.1 miles. Mountaintop to Mountaintop. It looks like I have had a third b5c die. I'll know more once we get on site. Jason Wilson

Re: [AFMUG] Bevy of engineers

Are those eMachines running Windows 98? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Working with ABB, Siemens and Prosoft engineers at a reclamation >

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

I looked at doing media converters last year. Not trivial. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:07 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? Yeah, maybe I should be clearer what I'm looking at. I'm looking at various options to build a

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

"Home and Small Business", I'm guessing (as opposed to the Enterprise products). On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > What hsb stands for? > > From: Af on behalf of Eric Muehleisen < > ericm...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Bind for sho.. I usually stack pdns on our mail server though. On 03/30/2017 10:36 AM, Matt wrote: Speaking of that what is everyone using for a DNS resolver now days? On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Why you should have your own DNS servers

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

Great for Caching local stuff and speeding up the end user experience. We have been running Bind since 2003 on 6 different machines. I recently had to purchase some newer machines to handle some requests that had been in service that long LOL I had to replace drives 5yrs into it but afterwards

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Have you seen this one? https://routerboard.com/RBFTC11 I've never used it, but it's an unmanaged media converter and supposedly works to -40C. -- Original Message -- From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "af" Sent: 3/30/2017 4:07:17 PM

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP1000 Max PTP length

I would think you want ePTP coming from a Mimosa link. It wasn't sync'ed before. ePTP is minimal latency. Unless you're trying to connect to a TDD AP that's already up there. Be sure you change the max range on the AP!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] 2.4 epmp and packetflux

Electrically a powerinjector+sync Rev J is identical to a syncinjector Rev H. Same circuit, add jumpers. There are of course some layout differences but electrically they're identical. This is exactly the type of weird crap we see with the ePMP, that makes no sense at all. I'm not

Re: [AFMUG] Bevy of engineers

My head is starting to hurt looking at it :) On 03/30/2017 02:46 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Probably...Look at this old stuff.. On Mar 30, 2017 1:38 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: Are those eMachines running Windows 98?

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

I do like my planet switches due to the exteme temps they can work at and humidity. On 03/30/2017 03:07 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Yeah, maybe I should be clearer what I'm looking at. I'm looking at various options to build a tower-top box to simplify the fiber up the tower

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

What hsb stands for? From: Af > on behalf of Eric Muehleisen > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 1:50 PM To:

[AFMUG] Giveaway camera for new customers

Looking for an inexpensive, but not junk, security camera to give away with new business installs. Not wanting to create a maintenance liability. Something like this maybe? https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Security-KAMTRON-Surveillance-Detection/dp/B01MF5X3TT/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Yeah, maybe I should be clearer what I'm looking at. I'm looking at various options to build a tower-top box to simplify the fiber up the tower with syncronized radios at the top.. Think a multiport ubiquiti fiberpoe with sync over power and a gps receiver built in, along with tower-top

Re: [AFMUG] anybody else having issues with google dns?

I Switched to Debian a few years back. On 03/30/2017 11:14 AM, Matt wrote: BIND or Unbound. On centos 7? Stock version included with Centos? On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Matt wrote: Speaking of that what is everyone using for a DNS resolver now days?

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

GigE optics would put him at $252 + S - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:45:54 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

At 36 users the switch heat/BTU is still problematic. AE optics for 1Gbps SFP for 36 users is around $900 like was mentioning below. Switch is probably less than $1800 for a 48 port (I use Planet). That switch can do most of the heavy lifting unless you are doing fancy stuff at that location

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I don’t think so on Active Ethernet. It’s about $21 for a pair of SFP optics generic direct from China. $25 to be safe including shipping x 36 is $900. Am I wrong? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

The pigtail is a good way to go, a Tyco FOSC400A closure can be had for about $100. Those Mikrotiks are going to get HOT in there. I have a cooled enclosure, and the one I was testing with got uncomfortably got when loaded with optics. Definitely get industrial temp SFPs if you're going that

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

$7/each for GigE LX (even does dual mode 100m\1000m) $34/each for 10G LR Plus shipping - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I usually get industrial rated bidi optics, they're sightly more. On Thursday, March 30, 2017, Mike Hammett wrote: > $7/each for GigE LX (even does dual mode 100m\1000m) > $34/each for 10G LR > > Plus shipping > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

BiDi is slightly more. A 10G BiDi is $48. Not sure on the temperature range. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

72 optics * $12/each plus uplink optics On Mar 30, 2017 6:01 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: GigE optics would put him at $252 + S - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

I didn't consider the optics at the customer locations as part of the cost of the box. I'm not sure he did either. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds"

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Right. I assumed BIDI and extended temp range with DDM on my $900, or rather $450 for the switch side. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team I didn't consider

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Looks like $9 and $12 for each side of the BiDi with DDM, but just standard temperature (32- 158). Not sure if they can get anything below 32... at least at FiberStore. Gigalight has gotten aggressive again, so they're another option. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

1000ft is likely not going to be far enough given 36 subs in an area. You'll want 10K optics. On Mar 30, 2017 6:10 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > $7/each for GigE LX (even does dual mode 100m\1000m) > $34/each for 10G LR > > Plus shipping > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Those are all 10k or 20k optics. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:51:10 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Will you just concede already, I mean we're talking about SFPs! ;) On Mar 30, 2017 6:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Looks like $9 and $12 for each side of the BiDi with DDM, but just > standard temperature (32- 158). Not sure if they can get anything below > 32... at least at

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Yeah, I counted both sides. Look like a 10 Cisco generic is around $7 now, not counting their s/h. If you go bidi it's $12/each for 10Km extemp dom, or right what I said: $864 +s/h On Mar 30, 2017 6:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Looks like $9 and $12 for each side of

Re: [AFMUG] POE Polarities

But 802.3at is this: Pair 1: White Orange.(PIN 1 ) & Orange.(PIN 2) is *NEGATIVE* Pair 2: White Green...(PIN 3) & Green...(PIN 6) is *POSITIVE* Pair 3: White Blue.(PIN 4) & Blue.(PIN 5) is *POSITIVE* Pair 4: White Brown..(PIN 7) & Brown...(PIN 8) is *NEGATIVE* ... and I think you have

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

One side of the BiDi is $9, the other side is $12. Also, only one side of the link's SFPs were included in the original price. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds"

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

I heard a comment today that I had not thought about. Apparently Google has been selling this data for years. The ISPs wanted to have the same rights. Of course, prohibiting Google from selling this information never crossed their minds. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] POE Polarities

No. I had them backward (I had to look)... On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > But 802.3at is this: > > Pair 1: White Orange.(PIN 1 ) & Orange.(PIN 2) is *NEGATIVE* > Pair 2: White Green...(PIN 3) & Green...(PIN 6) is *POSITIVE* > Pair 3: White

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

In my calc I counted both, because I was comparing AE to gpon. With gpon the "optic" is built into the ONT. With AE it's an additional expense over just the router. I'll write out some of the other numbers I have in a bit and post some graphs to see the break point on small AE vs gpon. On Mar

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

It's true, and it is the core business case of many other social network companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How do they choose not to use the only ISP in their market? Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

So give us a rundown on what you consider a minimum equipment list please. From: Craig Schmaderer Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team Chuck I am working on this very thing as well. We have been in our small town for 4

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Sounds like you're saying each copper injector port converted to an SFP? That would work. I could actually see that working very well with CWDM muxes and the existing 12/2 or 14/2 and 4x SMF hybrid cables on the market right now. But as I mentioned before, if you have a radio with only a

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

What switch are you using for AE in that enclosure? Have you thought about using a pre-terminated pigtail? Just run it from your enclosure into your vault/splice case. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I'm on a similar quest for low cost deployment

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Are you trying to redo the UBNT fiber-poe? https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/ From: Af > on behalf of "li...@packetflux.com" > Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] N-Male Pigtails for 5 GHz / A5c?

Thank you for the suggestions. I ended up getting cables from MPD Digital as Rory suggested. You can get them through Amazon (Good price, no website risk like their custom cable page had). They are not low PIM connectors, but I'm planning for this to be a set-and-forget setup... we'll see. Thank

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

Yeahbut Cambium/Canopy sync On 3/30/2017 4:09 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Are you trying to redo the UBNT fiber-poe? https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/ From: Af > on behalf of "li...@packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Busy and expensive. On 3/30/2017 1:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I am trying to save the money on building my own stuff. But yeah, a nice lean model with best practices and procedures will work both ways. Most fiber contractors I know are very busy. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, March

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Chuck I am working on this very thing as well. We have been in our small town for 4 years. I think we will be done with it next year for sure. 1500 homes, I think I did 2 drops the first year…. LOL All of my storage and equipment is here taking up a 7200 square foot building. I have 3-4

Re: [AFMUG] cnPilot r190

Hot Stand-By, duh. Oh... On 3/30/2017 3:39 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: "Home and Small Business", I'm guessing (as opposed to the Enterprise products). On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Gino Villarini > wrote: What hsb stands for? From:

[AFMUG] PMP450M POE versus PTP650 POE

So we've powered up our first PMP450M on the bench, and we set up the power thusly: - 1/2 (return) - 3/6 (return) - 4/5 +56V - 7/8 +56V Broke out the power for a PTP650, and it has the power thus: - 1/2 (return) - 3/6 +56V - 4/5 +56V - 7/8 (return) I seem to

[AFMUG] POE Polarities

>From Netonix: There are 4 Pairs and 8 PINs in an Ethernet Cable: Pair 1: White Orange.(PIN 1 ) & Orange.(PIN 2) is POSITIVE Pair 2: White Green...(PIN 3) & Green...(PIN 6) is NEGATIVE Pair 3: White Blue.(PIN 4) & Blue.(PIN 5) is POSITIVE Pair 4: White Brown..(PIN 7) & Brown...(PIN 8) is

Re: [AFMUG] OT my new baby

Haha it includes an excerpt from the wikipedia article for Canopy... And that article includes a mention of Stinger antennas, I wonder who put that in long ago... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Motorola_Canopy=257651280=257645109 On Mar 30, 2017 4:49 PM, "Chuck McCown"

[AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

While the FCC's proposed "Protecting the Privacy of Customers of Broadband and Other Telecommunication Services" rule might not have been perfect, and potentially difficult to implement for small ISPs and WISPS, I think the basic concept was sound. I created a simple non-legally binding pledge

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

Four of the small mikrotiks with 10 SFP slots each. The enclosure is 12" deep, so we're cutting some L-brackets to mount them facing towards the door. I haven't thought much about a pigtail. I think it would be a few hundred bucks more expensive because I don't actually have a splice

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters?

I’ve got five of those, seem to working ok so far. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit ethernet converters? Have you seen this one? https://routerboard.com/RBFTC11 I've never used

Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team

36 users? Jesus. That would be hard to beat..Even though that puts you at $900 plus s/h just in optics, plus the switch cost. I could do some napkin math when I'm no longer at a stop light to figure out how many users per location the tipping point is for a low cost OLT vs something with 48 SFP

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