Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread chuck
The pendulum swings. I wonder if we get a tiny bit more wise each cycle... I remember during the peak of the war on drugs, I had an employee that was on the ragged edge of three strikes. He had backslid a bit and was worried about getting nailed during a piss test. I will always remember one

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Adam Moffett
I'd be all for that. I read somewhere that for all the $billions we spend on the DEA we are able to stop about 2% of drug traffic. Sounds like a poor investment. -- Original Message -- From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "af" Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Dave
WOW.. I hope he didnt fail his piss test :) On 04/18/2018 09:42 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The pendulum swings.  I wonder if we get a tiny bit more wise each cycle... I remember during the peak of the war on drugs, I had an employee that was on the ragged edge of three strikes.  He had

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread chuck
He didn’t as I recall. I think that if he got busted for a little as smoking or having a joint it was going to be 15 years. From: Dave Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents WOW.. I hope he didnt fail his piss test :) On

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Mitch Koep
Steve I feel for you We took our granddaughter when she was 9 months old and she just turned 8 When son was busted for Meth Last two years alone the step son got 2500.00 for attorney, a 5000.00  car, 1800.00 for a no insurance ticket. Before that I was done BUT wife's son so rather than

[AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Justin Marshall
Hi, I have a customer with a 120M/120M connection. This is for a church that usually has 100-250 users on wifi at any given time. I need to make sure that at least 15M/15M is available at all times for a given streaming device, but I also want to make sure any wifi users have full access to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Robert Andrews
As long as people are signed up to "Drive a car and test positive, Go directly to Jail..." I don't want to be in this category of person, but THC sticks around so long with so much effect that it's the major difference between Pot and Alcohol... Until we have self driving cars driving down

Re: [AFMUG] OT Important news

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Prince
And maybe. just maybe McDonalds uses it on Big Macs (special sauce?)? bp On 4/18/2018 8:49 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Twitter called for it and now: Heinz will start shipping fry sauce... Utah’s claim to fry sauce goes back to the 1940s, when chef Don Carlos

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's a great way to get money though On Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 10:15 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I'd be all for that. I read somewhere that for all the $billions we spend > on the DEA we are able to stop about 2% of drug traffic. Sounds like a > poor investment. > > > --

[AFMUG] OT Important news

2018-04-18 Thread chuck
Twitter called for it and now: Heinz will start shipping fry sauce... Utah’s claim to fry sauce goes back to the 1940s, when chef Don Carlos Edwards created it for burgers at his restaurants. Those restaurants grew into the Arctic Circle chain, which now boasts 37 locations in Utah, 21 in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Important news

2018-04-18 Thread Steve Jones
now that would be excellent On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > And maybe. just maybe McDonalds uses it on Big Macs (special sauce?)? > > > bp > > > > On 4/18/2018 8:49 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >> Twitter called for it

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Jesse DuPont
You can setup a PCQ for WiFi subnet as you described, but also set the max-limit for both down and up on the PCQ and it will distribute bandwidth among all IPs in the PCQ, limited to the per-IP rate in the PCQ and overall limited to the max-limit, which you'd set to 105

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Prince
What does link planner say you need? Five nines I presume? bp On 4/18/2018 1:12 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Yes, looking at both. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread SmarterBroadband
I have the charts. Your 6 mile links in 18? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity Download the integra spec sheet and it has all the

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread SmarterBroadband
5.5 miles From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity There’s a HP version of the G and the W is even louder that that. How far are you

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Prince
We had a Dragonwave going 7.5 miles, but it had a 3' dish on one end and a 2' dish on the other. bp On 4/18/2018 1:42 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: 5.5 miles *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Wednesday, April 18, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread George Skorup
We've got an Exalt G2-18 w/ Radiowaves HP2-18's at ~2.5 miles. 38dBi + 19dBm Tx at 40MHz/256QAM. RSL is -35dBm. Sometimes it's a little too hot. Probably needs ATPC enabled. On 4/18/2018 4:47 PM, Bill Prince wrote: We had a Dragonwave going 7.5 miles, but it had a 3' dish on one end and a

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread SmarterBroadband
I would be OK with four and a half nines at max mod. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity What does link planner

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread SmarterBroadband
Yes, looking at both. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > SAF

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread SmarterBroadband
I don’t see any mention of HP versions. Can you point me in the right direction? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity There’s a HP

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread Sean Heskett
Download the integra spec sheet and it has all the tx power and recieve sensitivity for all the models, channel sizes and QAM levels in charts on the last few pages. We have a lot of 6 mile SAF integra-W links on 2’ dishes that have no problem even in heavy summer downpours. We are in NW

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Jesse DuPont
He skipped the mangle/queue tree part of the link below and is just looking at simple queue w/PCQ (step 3). Jesse DuPont Network Architect

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Prince
I think 4 X 15 is closer to 60... ;-) bp On 4/18/2018 11:46 AM, Dave wrote: My question is how many streaming devices are there at any one given time. 4devices x15Mbs = 90Mbs 10Dx15M= 150M PCC with Ques can do this for sure. I use butch evans QOSbase3 for this

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Justin Marshall
Just to make sure I understand correctly… (kind of going off the example located at https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Queues_-_PCQ_Examples) Adding the max-limit=105M/105M in step 3 would limit all users handled by the PCQ to 105M? e.g. /queue simple add max-limit=105M/105M name=PCQ_Queue

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Jesse DuPont
Yes, your example using the max-limit is right. To let them all fight for it (essentially), you could only set the max-limit, target=, and not use a PCQ, then it would essentially let all the users share (mostly equally) the available 105 Mbps. Setting a PCQ for

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Dave
My question is how many streaming devices are there at any one given time. 4devices x15Mbs = 90Mbs 10Dx15M= 150M PCC with Ques can do this for sure. I use butch evans QOSbase3 for this at a couple Large hotels and have no complaints On 04/18/2018 12:30 PM, Justin Marshall wrote: Hi, I

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread Sean Heskett
SAF integra g or w On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM SmarterBroadband wrote: > We are looking to install a couple of 18GHz License Links and are > restricted to 2 foot antennas. Therefore I need the best output power and > Rx sensitivity available today. > > > > Both Dragonwave

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread SmarterBroadband
SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen…. Especially the G and GS. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity SAF integra g

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread Sean Heskett
There’s a HP version of the G and the W is even louder that that. How far are you trying to shoot and why are you limited to 2’ dishes?? On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:31 PM SmarterBroadband wrote: > SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen…. Especially the G > and GS.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Prince
I know it "sticks around", but I'm not so sure the side effects are still there (I am not an authority, but this is what I've read). That has been and still is the challenge. I've seen things about the development of a test to determine if someone is still under the influence, but to date the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread chuck
I have it on very very very good authority driving high is more likely to result in you going very slow and paranoid where alcohol makes you (believe you are) an exceptionally skilled high speed driver... so I have been told... -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Dennis Burgess
There are simple ways of getting this done, not using your queue tree. Simple queues are simple and basic. I would use those. Give me a call if you need further help though. Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" Link Technologies, Inc --

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Justin Marshall
If I use simple queues, how could I go about giving the wifi users equal access to the 105M? If there are potentially 200+ users, wouldn't I need to make the queues ~512k/512k, or am I misunderstanding something? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Robert Andrews
I didn't think so until I read a blog from a heavy user after legalization. This was a lifelong user that went "over the top" when he became a) rich b) legal.Basically after a 3 month bender it took 6 months to clear his system from testing positive and his mind to be clear enough to

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

2018-04-18 Thread Justin Marshall
Only 1 streaming device From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device My question is how many streaming devices are there at any one given

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Prince
I have zero experience in that regard. My youth was pure and unaffected by alcohol or pot. I didn't get exposed to pot until my early 20s well past college, and I was kind of like Bill Clinton. I smoked it, but didn't inhale. It never appealed to me, and I have not indulged in several decades.

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: SAF seems to have the lowest output power I have seen….  Especially the G and GS. I would look at the RX sensitivity tables.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Jason McKemie
There is a good Stuff You Should Know episode on bath salts. Most of the crap you used to hear in the news being attributed to it is bullshit. Still stupid, just not the same kind of crazy stupid that people think. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > If I am

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Steve Jones
i dont care for your ticket system dont have to use it often, but i dont like it powercodes ticket system has gotten pretty useful, it would be nice if they had just that module, you could always start a wisp best ticket system we use is kayako, but last i ppriced it, was outside our budget since

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Steve Jones
wow, it might be a good thing for you, the ecommerce stuff is cool, shows what your people look at, what they buy, you can have google/facebook godlike powers On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:44 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > i dont care for your ticket system > dont have to use

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Jon Lee
We have OS ticket running on a Linode instace. -Jon On Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 5:38 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I'm currently running an instance of OSticket. There is a bug somewhere > in the version I'm running which causes tickets with activity on them

[AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
What is everyone using for support tickets nowadays? I've about had it with our system. -- *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Matt Hoppes
We absolutely love zendesk. It helped productivity many times over. Prior we were all sharing an email box. > On Apr 18, 2018, at 19:07, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > > Yeah, I'm sort of leaning toward Zendesk just because of all of the > integrations. >

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread SmarterBroadband
Cambium 820's will be down to around 400 meg at 4.5 nines. We want the link to hold 1 Gig at 4.5 nines. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-18 Thread Sean Heskett
what rain zone are you in? yes our link is in 18GHz honestly if you need 1gbps with 4.5 nines with 2' dishes at 6 miles you probably need to look at 11GHz or 6GHz instead of 18GHz. -sean On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > Cambium 820's will be down to

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Keefe John
We use Sonar but zendesk is very popular. Keefe On April 18, 2018 5:54:10 PM CDT, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" wrote: >What is everyone using for support tickets nowadays? I've about had it >with our system. > >-- >*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Jeff Evans
Freshdesk has a fairly good and simple one (free) more add ons for paid On 4/18/2018 6:54 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: What is everyone using for support tickets nowadays?  I've about had it with our system. -- *Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./ Tel:

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Yeah, I'm sort of leaning toward Zendesk just because of all of the integrations. On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Keefe John wrote: > We use Sonar but zendesk is very popular. > > Keefe > > > On April 18, 2018 5:54:10 PM CDT, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < >

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Keefe John
If you want free a lot of people also use Request Tracker and OS Ticket. Keefe On April 18, 2018 6:07:50 PM CDT, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" wrote: >Yeah, I'm sort of leaning toward Zendesk just because of all of the >integrations. > >On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:55

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread chuck
We offer free stamped post cards... From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 4:54 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing What is everyone using for support tickets nowadays? I've about had it with our system. -- Forrest Christian CEO,

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Jon Langeler
Spiceworks helpdesk has been working well for us Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Apr 18, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Jeff Evans wrote: > > Freshdesk has a fairly good and simple one (free) more add ons for paid >> On 4/18/2018 6:54 PM, Forrest Christian (List

Re: [AFMUG] OT Google News

2018-04-18 Thread Steve Jones
they took away my filters you used to be able to do that that was one of my filters i hate google trying to control me On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > I would pay to have that crap removed. > > > bp > > > > On 4/18/2018

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW clamps

2018-04-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Angle iron units have the word angle in the part number. Perhaps they mis-shipped. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 18, 2018, at 8:24 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >> On 4/18/18 7:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> The M-TOW products that are made for angle iron tower legs have a flat

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW clamps

2018-04-18 Thread Steve Jones
upc1 clamps from site pro work great in conjunction with MTOW btw, throw away the threaded rod to storage and use the clamp plate for 90s On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Angle iron units have the word angle in the part number. Perhaps they > mis-shipped.

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2018-04-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
https://youtu.be/ltzy5vRmN8Q Pretty funny..

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble/Support Ticketing

2018-04-18 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'm currently running an instance of OSticket. There is a bug somewhere in the version I'm running which causes tickets with activity on them (new or more frequently rather old ones) to not be put in a state where it is obvious that there has been activity on them. Often we'll find them weeks

[AFMUG] MTOW clamps

2018-04-18 Thread Seth Mattinen
When did the MTOW start using flat plate clamps instead of the curvy ones? I liked the curvy ones. I guess the flat plates are cheaper?

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW clamps

2018-04-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Huh? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 18, 2018, at 6:51 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > When did the MTOW start using flat plate clamps instead of the curvy ones? I > liked the curvy ones. I guess the flat plates are cheaper?

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW clamps

2018-04-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Shoot me an address and we will get a replacement headed your way. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] MTOW clamps When did the MTOW start using flat plate clamps instead of the curvy ones? I liked the

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW clamps

2018-04-18 Thread Chuck McCown
The M-TOW products that are made for angle iron tower legs have a flat back clamp. But the others are still the curved clamp. We could have had a packing error in final assembly I suppose. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:51 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Google News

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Prince
I would pay to have that crap removed. bp On 4/18/2018 7:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I wish there was a way to block all news sources from ever again presenting anything on the Kardasian Jenner West families� arrgh. Daily, multiple things.� Those guys are

Re: [AFMUG] MTOW clamps

2018-04-18 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/18/18 7:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The M-TOW products that are made for angle iron tower legs have a flat back clamp.  But the others are still the curved clamp.  We could have had a packing error in final assembly I suppose. Oh, then I got the wrong one, I've never seen the angle iron

[AFMUG] OT Google News

2018-04-18 Thread Chuck McCown
I wish there was a way to block all news sources from ever again presenting anything on the Kardasian Jenner West families arrgh. Daily, multiple things. Those guys are masters at self promotion.