Re: [AFMUG] Netonix switch

2015-02-14 Thread Craig Baird
Anybody know if they have any kind of ethernet surge protection built in? Craig Quoting Kurt Fankhauser : I have two of them and the are def worth it, never bought a tough switch but these things are rock solid and not flaky at all. The different models that look the same are for some only do

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix switch

2015-02-14 Thread TJ Trout
24v & 48 v on all ports but only airfibers on some ports, right? On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I have two of them and the are def worth it, never bought a tough switch > but these things are rock solid and not flaky at all. The different models > that look the same ar

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix switch

2015-02-14 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have two of them and the are def worth it, never bought a tough switch but these things are rock solid and not flaky at all. The different models that look the same are for some only do 48v on half the ports but they all do 24V on all the ports. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Bo

Re: [AFMUG] Dell XPS-13

2015-02-14 Thread Jeremy
That is exactly why I went with the Lenovo X230 on my last laptop. I hate dongles and I feel like the flip out would get broken as often as I use it. On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > This would be my new favorite ultraportable laptop if it didn't require > a USB dongle for

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Jeremy
I talked to the Exede guys at AF. After running a speedtest with 650+ms of latency they told me that their VoIP works perfectly. I called BS and they had it hooked up and said feel free. I called my wife and had about a five minute conversation. I have noticed worse lag on the AT&T VoIP service

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix switch

2015-02-14 Thread Craig House
I was reading about it on Streakwave site but it doesn't give that much info. They are only 100.00 more and have 8 more ports. I think that make them worth it and I have too heard that they are better switches with less packet loss and better performance. Craig - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 + 4.9 GHz Public Safety Spectrum

2015-02-14 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
PMP-455 which is the 2nd generation equipment. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Matt Mangriotis < matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > Yes to bo

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix switch

2015-02-14 Thread TJ Trout
their website explains it well, but basically you can either do off, or 24v, 24VH, 48v, 48vh on the ports, 24vh is for af5x and 48vh is for af24/af5/saf, etc. I haven't used any yet (no dc available) but I've read they are better than toughswitches On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Craig House wro

[AFMUG] Netonix switch

2015-02-14 Thread Craig House
Who is using them? Better than UBNT Toughswitch? Are the ports all both 24 or 48v like the tough switch and can they be turned on / off for POE or are they on POE all the time? thanks Craig

Re: [AFMUG] RouterOS 6.27 CCR

2015-02-14 Thread Jason McKemie
Thanks. On Saturday, February 14, 2015, Erich Kaiser wrote: > 6.23 and up seem fine on CCRs. > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower Consulting > er...@northcentraltower.com > > Office: 630-621-4804 > Cell: 630-777-9291 > > On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbr

Re: [AFMUG] RouterOS 6.27 CCR

2015-02-14 Thread Erich Kaiser
6.23 and up seem fine on CCRs. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Anyone running version 6.27 on their CCRs? How is it stabilit

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

2015-02-14 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Yeah, just saw that as well, very funny movie! Samual Jackson has the best well timed profanity ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review ! I couldn’t find my trench coat, s

[AFMUG] Dell XPS-13

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
This would be my new favorite ultraportable laptop if it didn't require a USB dongle for Ethernet. Lenovo has a funky Ethernet jack that flips out on their ultrabooks. Come on, Dell, some of us need Ethernet. Dell does have a clever multifunction dongle but it's still an extra thingy to carry

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux SyncInjector Firmware - auto retry on port power overload

2015-02-14 Thread Wireless Admin
Outstanding . Steve B. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 5:06 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux SyncInjector Firmware - auto retry on port power overload The almost-released beta has

Re: [AFMUG] RouterOS 6.27 CCR

2015-02-14 Thread Josh Luthman
25 and up have worked on my rb2011s. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 14, 2015 6:14 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Anyone running version 6.27 on their CCRs? How is it stability-wise? > > -Jason >

[AFMUG] RouterOS 6.27 CCR

2015-02-14 Thread Jason McKemie
Anyone running version 6.27 on their CCRs? How is it stability-wise? -Jason

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux SyncInjector Firmware - auto retry on port power overload

2015-02-14 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
The almost-released beta has this. I was expecting it to be out before Animal Farm, but now it looks like just after WISPAMERICA. We actually ended up having to respin both the base unit code and the expansion module code to permit this, as we needed to be able to display a lot more internal dat

Re: [AFMUG] Generator Recommendations

2015-02-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/14/15 10:39, Mike Hammett wrote: I am looking for recommendations on a 100kw (or thereabouts), 3 phase 240v (yes, not 208) autostarting generator. Bonus points if it auto tests and is IP accessible as well. Anything with a reconnectable alternator should be able to do 139/240 or 240/416

Re: [AFMUG] Generator Recommendations

2015-02-14 Thread Chuck McCown
All generators seem to have a habit of not starting exactly when you need them. I have used lots of generacs with pretty good success. Onan and Cat are supposed to be better but have had trouble with those too. Generac has autotest. Not sure of the latest ones are IP or not. From: Mike H

[AFMUG] Generator Recommendations

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I am looking for recommendations on a 100kw (or thereabouts), 3 phase 240v (yes, not 208) autostarting generator. Bonus points if it auto tests and is IP accessible as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Hughesnet had a filing suggesting either no latency benchmark, or 750 ms. From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Well if there is a mention of latency (and whether there is or isn't) will speak volume

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
>From a user experience perspective. VoIP will work up to 200 ms, assuming all >other metrics are clean. Gamers don't need negative latency, they're just >compensating for being shitty players. My desktop to Google which travels through five UBNT and ePMP backhauls (I think one with interferen

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
I guess we really don’t know what latency, usage limit or price is acceptable because the FCC hasn’t told us yet. The Report & Order resulting from Proceeding 14-126 didn’t set benchmarks for them. Maybe Mike says 100 ms because that’s the limit for CAF II funding. Round trip to the Internet

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread John Woodfield
If you say so. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: "Mathew Howard" Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:29am To: "af" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I have both of our AF5 links running in

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux SyncInjector Firmware - auto retry on port power overload

2015-02-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Trip maybe? He showed this at AF. Only on the latest beta. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 14, 2015 11:58 AM, "Wireless Admin" wrote: > Anyone know if packetflux ever added a feature to their syncinjector > firmware to auto

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
100 ms end to end. That user device to the far server. If you're like Josh in Alaska, there's 30 - 40 ms before you even get anywhere in the cables down to Seattle. The Internet seems to work okay for him. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Or

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

2015-02-14 Thread Bill Prince
Did you have to take out a loan for that? bp On 2/14/2015 8:13 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: Extra Large Popcorn Bucket.

[AFMUG] Packetflux SyncInjector Firmware - auto retry on port power overload

2015-02-14 Thread Wireless Admin
Anyone know if packetflux ever added a feature to their syncinjector firmware to auto retry on port power overload. This was discussed back in April of 2014. I have a ticket open with them on this issue but I have not heard anything on it. Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Using TCP? UDP, yes, but I haven't seen them do much more than 180 with a TCP test. On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Incorrect, an RB2011LS-IN CPU can generate about 600 Mbps of packets > when doing a direct RB2011-to-RB2011 speed test via singlemode fiber jumper. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Incorrect, an RB2011LS-IN CPU can generate about 600 Mbps of packets when doing a direct RB2011-to-RB2011 speed test via singlemode fiber jumper.  On 2/14/15 1:12 PM, John Woodfield wrote: The 2011's CPU will max out at that speed. You

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mathew Howard
I have both of our AF5 links running in full duplex mode now, but I have played around with TDD on them, and as I recall, latency was 2-3ms. On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > It would be the same as any of the existing AFs in TDD mode. I saw some > reports that it was in the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

2015-02-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
Extra large? Show off Jaime Solorza On Feb 14, 2015 9:13 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Extra Large Popcorn Bucket. > > > > I’m not even signing my name this to this thread. > > > > Anonymous > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Saturday, Februar

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

2015-02-14 Thread Rory Conaway
Extra Large Popcorn Bucket. I’m not even signing my name this to this thread. Anonymous From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 8:18 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review ! Lotion. Tissue. Jaime Solorza On Feb 1

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Rory Conaway
With the newer processors in the latest gear 802.11n, we saw latency drops which were nice. It’s almost worth swapping out a Rocket 5m with new Rocket 5M. The difference is noticeable, as is the throughput. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield Sent: Saturday

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think Kurt’s point, which I agree with, is this is a PTP product, and backhaul latencies get multiplied by the number of hops, while you only have one “last mile”. You can perhaps use licensed or other FDD radios for the first few hops and go cheap with the last few hops at the farthest reach

Re: [AFMUG] accessing the list from an Android

2015-02-14 Thread Sean Heskett
Unsubscribe and then subscribe. It'll send you a verification message. On Saturday, February 14, 2015, Glen Waldrop wrote: > I’ve been having issues ever since I signed up. I can read emails just > fine on my Galaxy S4, but I can’t reply. This is over 2 phones and 2 Linux > email servers. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread John Woodfield
Not to mention the UBNT gear under load has at least that much latency... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: "Rory Conaway" Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:10am To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wasn’t this already done before with Mickey Rourke and Kim Basinger? I guess if there’s a book, that makes it a chick flick. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:17 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review ! Lotion. Tissue. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review !!!!!

2015-02-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lotion. Tissue. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 11:16 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I couldn’t find my trench coat, shades and big hat... > > *From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists > *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 8:38 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review ! > > Figure

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Rory Conaway
ADSL latencies used to be over 40ms or more. Cable latencies are about 10ms from my router to the first hop so 10ms isn’t that big a deal. I agree with you Mike. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:45 AM To: af@afmug.com S

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
When you look at how many DNS lookups and TCP connections are involved in displaying a webpage, often in a sequential process, I think it does matter. Someone with a fast computer will notice. Someone on a phone or tablet not so much due to CPU limitations. 5 ms latency and local DNS servers c

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Bill Prince
We try to push it as low as we can go. Love to see those < 5ms latencies to google.com. If we can get the overall latency down, then the other stuff is gravy. bp On 2/14/2015 6:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: A lot of WISPs get hardons over low latencies, but as long as end-to-end is under 100 m

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

2015-02-14 Thread Bill Prince
Well yeah. There are bunches of those depending on pipe sizes. We select from these: http://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=search_results&sp_search_group=exact&search=pipe+to+pipe&x=0&y=0 bp On 2/14/2015 4:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: This is what I normally use: http://www.commscope.com

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
A lot of WISPs get hardons over low latencies, but as long as end-to-end is under 100 ms or so, it doesn't really matter. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder if WISPs are going to be part of a trend toward higher latencies. It used to be customers mainly did web browsing and really noticed whether the websites snapped up immediately or lagged. Now everyone is streaming, streaming, streaming. And websites are more worried about tracking coo

Re: [AFMUG] accessing the list from an Android

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Thanks, Glen. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 7:56:08 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] accessing the list from an Android Gmail. No problems. Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Think about the dipshits, bro! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "That One Guy" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:58:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use I dont understan

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor shield with ARC wireless 3 foot dish

2015-02-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Laird is smaller as well :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 14, 2015 8:15 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > UBNT = 1050 mm diameter > Arc = 930 mm diameter > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.

Re: [AFMUG] accessing the list from an Android

2015-02-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Gmail. No problems. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 14, 2015 7:44 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Did it work before the migration to Amazon? > > What type of failure is happening? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Compu

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
It would be the same as any of the existing AFs in TDD mode. I saw some reports that it was in the 2 ms area (IIRC). There are some people on the list and some you know (not me) that have been using the AF5x. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Erich Kaiser
I would assume AF5x is going to be the same issue if you are using GPS? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I can't afford 8-12ms of latency 7 hops out... Time

Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor shield with ARC wireless 3 foot dish

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
UBNT = 1050 mm diameter Arc = 930 mm diameter - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:56:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor shield with ARC wirele

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread John Woodfield
The 2011's CPU will max out at that speed. You need to try with a couple PC's. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: "Rory Conaway" Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:38pm To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trang

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
AF5X? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:23:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results I can't afford 8-12ms of latency

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I saw no reason to try them. More expensive than and less\worse features\performance than it's competition. It seems very much like a "Me too" product. Slap some OEM shit together and hope a few of them sell. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---

Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
This is what I normally use: http://www.commscope.com/catalog/andrew/product_details.aspx?id=2188 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:32:24

Re: [AFMUG] accessing the list from an Android

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Did it work before the migration to Amazon? What type of failure is happening? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Glen Waldrop" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 2:18:51 AM Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] accessing the list from an Android

2015-02-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
I have no problems with k9 or the integrated mail client :: Josh Reynolds, CIO, SPITwSPOTS - Pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile device On Feb 13, 2015 11:18 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: I’ve been having issues ever since I signed up. I can read emails just fine on my Galaxy S

[AFMUG] accessing the list from an Android

2015-02-14 Thread Glen Waldrop
I’ve been having issues ever since I signed up. I can read emails just fine on my Galaxy S4, but I can’t reply. This is over 2 phones and 2 Linux email servers. Anyone else using an Android phone that works for the list? The only thing I can figure is maybe the K9 email client does something fu

Re: [AFMUG] computer sales

2015-02-14 Thread Glen Waldrop
We do, but we’re becoming more compartmentalized. I’ve got a couple of computer guys, an installer and me, jack of all trades and tired of technology. Those guys can’t swap jobs, so it gets handed to the appropriate area pretty quickly. From: That One Guy Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11: