Re: [AFMUG] My afternoon project

I sprayed parts before I put muscle to it...I did use a cheater bar On Apr 11, 2016 6:38 PM, "Erich Kaiser" wrote: > I have done front hubs(4x4) on my old silverado few years back, it was a > bitch to get the nut off, had a 10ft conduit and was standing on the

Re: [AFMUG] My afternoon project

I have done front hubs(4x4) on my old silverado few years back, it was a bitch to get the nut off, had a 10ft conduit and was standing on the end of it bouncing, it was kind of fun LOL. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Mon,

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

Shoes and not flip-flops. 3/10 casual. Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 2:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

Flo is your customer? bp On 4/11/2016 2:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I think some of my customers were in a recent Progressive commercial: http://lifelanes.progressive.com/park-ranger-mark/ *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

I think some of my customers were in a recent Progressive commercial: http://lifelanes.progressive.com/park-ranger-mark/ From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router I feel bad for the

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

oh man, did i forget to attach the photo? lol - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza To: Animal Farm Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe?? Nothing there... On Apr 11, 2016 10:34 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"

Re: [AFMUG] interesting malware, and checking an air router

I feel bad for the poor Rise Broadband guy he talks to, hes convinced their ESSIDs have infected him On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > stupid malware, i would have been a real good bad guy, i need to learn to > code so i can

Re: [AFMUG] 450 Traffic in PRTG

that is due to the 32 bit counter. It rolls over & causes the dip in traffic. I have been unable to use 64 bit counters on the 100 series or the 450 series works fine on epmp., ptp800, etc. Roland > In our Live Data graphs for our 450 Traffic in PRTG, I am noticing the traffic will dip to 0 for

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

I would have failed the job. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > There is a silver lining to every cloud. > > Bill Prince wrote: > >> The only good thing would be if he fell, there would only be funeral >> costs... >> >> bp >>

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

There is a silver lining to every cloud. Bill Prince wrote: The only good thing would be if he fell, there would only be funeral costs... bp On 4/11/2016 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: A Little Giant ladder would at least allow you to correct for the slope of the

Re: [AFMUG] Cross-posted: IP geolocation gone horribly wrong

Can't they pray it away? Too easyI apologize... On Apr 11, 2016 12:34 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: http://fusion.net/story/287592/internet-mapping-glitch-kansas-farm/

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

Just say No... to stupidity!!! Damn On Apr 11, 2016 12:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Yeah, but if it was corrected for the slope, he'd be too far from the mast > to reach it :P > > I've used ladders in plenty of places that I shouldn't have, but a metal > roof is... just

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

Yeah, but if it was corrected for the slope, he'd be too far from the mast to reach it :P I've used ladders in plenty of places that I shouldn't have, but a metal roof is... just no. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > A Little Giant ladder would at least

Re: [AFMUG] The FCC takes children's programming seriously!

You vill prgram ze children or zer vill be consequenses! On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > About the same dollar amount ($15,000) as willfully operating an > unlicensed medium power FM station... > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

The only good thing would be if he fell, there would only be funeral costs... bp On 4/11/2016 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: A Little Giant ladder would at least allow you to correct for the slope of the roof, it would still be extremely unsafe. My next door neighbor

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

A Little Giant ladder would at least allow you to correct for the slope of the roof, it would still be extremely unsafe. My next door neighbor has been in a wheelchair for 3 weeks with broken ribs and pelvis and a concussion because a stepladder slipped out from under him, and this wasn’t even

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

Looks safe... On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > He really should have his harness tied off to the mast... > > bp > > > > On 4/11/2016 11:14 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > > > > > > Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Nothing there... > On Apr

[AFMUG] Cross-posted: IP geolocation gone horribly wrong

http://fusion.net/story/287592/internet-mapping-glitch-kansas-farm/

[AFMUG] The FCC takes children's programming seriously!

About the same dollar amount ($15,000) as willfully operating an unlicensed medium power FM station... http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2016/db0407/DA-16-373A1.pdf

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

He really should have his harness tied off to the mast... bp On 4/11/2016 11:14 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Jaime Solorza wrote: Nothing there... On Apr 11, 2016 10:34 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

I think I remember seeing Mike Delp do that before. On 4/11/2016 1:14 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Jaime Solorza wrote: Nothing there... On Apr 11, 2016 10:34 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" > wrote: Customer (wink wink) send this to

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

Luckily in our area, there are diverse routes to the POP we are in. I'm not positive about dual routers but I know there is enough traffic running through our POP that I assume they have two now since there are diverse routes to other POPs. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Eric Kuhnke

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

Agreed, just something to be aware of. And never, ever singlehome to HE or Cogent. I was typing on my phone so I didn't want to spend a lot of time, but another detail in addition to the single router is non diversity of routes. There's places where HE has a router and will sell IP transit in a

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

Jaime Solorza wrote: Nothing there... On Apr 11, 2016 10:34 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote:   Customer (wink wink) send this to me over the

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

On 4/11/16 10:13, Eric Kuhnke wrote: If you've physically laid eyes on an HE POP in a non major city, another issue is they frequently deploy with 1 router, not a redundant core pair. Not really an "issue" as much as what it's worth to do or what you get at a certain price point. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

If you've physically laid eyes on an HE POP in a non major city, another issue is they frequently deploy with 1 router, not a redundant core pair. On Apr 11, 2016 5:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:There is more to that $0.22/meg, though, than is advertised. A lack of BGP communities

[AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

Customer (wink wink) send this to me over the weekend mr weekley going above and beyond for our customers lol

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

Similar, shorter bullet points in powerpoint format: http://opi.mt.gov/pub/rti/EssentialComponents/Leadership/Present/Understanding%20Generational%20Differences.pdf bp On 4/11/2016 8:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] mr weekley...are you sure it is safe??

Nothing there... On Apr 11, 2016 10:34 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > Customer (wink wink) send this to me over the weekend > mr weekley going above and beyond for our customers lol > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

I'm reading through that and I love how broad it is. Most of the areas you could swap between generations and nobody would know. Tropy for 8th place? Never. My kids, yeah the leagues tried that shit, but not my age group. 12 years of baseball, 2 years of football, 4 or 5 years of soccer, martial

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

1,700 feet to their nearest manhole but 15 miles or so to the datacenter. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > It may or may not be worth it to do the buildout... > > Depending on a number of factors... how much the contractor will charge ? > and

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

Gen X is getting cheated! They only got 15 years! I would push Gen X to 1965-1985, and bump the millennials to 1985-2005. bp On 4/11/2016 8:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://www.wmfc.org/uploads/GenerationalDifferencesChart.pdf Go Boomers! *From:* Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

http://www.wmfc.org/uploads/GenerationalDifferencesChart.pdf Go Boomers! From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica The definition of a millennial that I've heard is

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

That's a wider range than I would have thought, but it makes sense. A generation is often thought of as around 20 years, so it still fits. bp On 4/11/2016 8:35 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: "...most researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

"...most researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

The definition of a millennial that I've heard is someone who came "of age" around the millennium. So if you were around 18-21 years of age between 1995 and 2005, you are a millennial. You turned 18 in 1999, so I would say you qualify. bp On 4/11/2016 12:31 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

It may or may not be worth it to do the buildout... Depending on a number of factors... how much the contractor will charge ? and who will be taking responsibility etc etc... One time pay out vs financed into the monthly ... But it cannot hurt to price it out... Regards Faisal Imtiaz

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

the 1700 ft build to their hand hole or the 15 mile build to the datacenter ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

You get some of that back every time they hook a customer along the 1700 feet of fiber you paid to install, right? j/k From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 9:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing Why don’t you build it? From: Darin Steffl Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

I would say that's similar pricing that we pay for our two 10Gbps to the data center, however our stretch is... roughly 30 miles. Two different carrier networks. That said, each market is vastly different and we told our transit providers we would be looking for >10Gbps in the near future. On

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

1700 foot... From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing the 1700 ft build to their hand hole or the 15 mile build to the datacenter ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

Pricing greatly depends on how you ask for it, who you ask, and who is asking.. ATT is the most expensive, however they may also be the carrier of last resort, only recently they have started doing ICB on 10g ports. I believe, the results from Windstream dealings indicate a similar behavior.

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

Why don’t you build it? From: Darin Steffl Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing Josh and Mike, I'm not looking for internet service. We already purchase from HE and are happy with pricing and performance. I'm looking at

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

BTW The questions to ask would be as follows:- What would be the 10g wave pricing if both locations were on-net ? What happens to the pricing after the initial term is over ? --- Keep in mind, the initial term pricing is going to pay for the the build out... After which, technically,

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

>> I'm looking at ballpark transport pricing for 10G wave or ethernet to a >> datacenter... There is no such thing as a 'ballpark' those are all ICB pricing Having said that... >>> One provider has given a ballpark of $3,300 for 3-year term and $2,550 for >>> 5-year term pending

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

I know that's what you were looking for. That's why my first message answered your question directly. That pricing is reasonable. I've certainly seen less, but I've also seen more. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

Josh and Mike, I'm not looking for internet service. We already purchase from HE and are happy with pricing and performance. I'm looking at ballpark transport pricing for 10G wave or ethernet to a datacenter where we pick up HE there. One provider has given a ballpark of $3,300 for 3-year term

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

I have a Windstream Fiber HUB and ATT fiber in my office and Im lucky to see $8000 for that.. On 04/11/2016 08:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: More and more, I am seeing a port charge and a very low bandwidth charge. Bandwidth pricing is going the way of long distance. At some point in the near

Re: [AFMUG] OT: San Diego places to stay in May

All of the downtown recommendations are good, but if you are looking for something a bit less travelled I would head further north to the Torrey Pines / Del Mar area. A couple examples are L'Auberge in Del Mar and the Hilton La Jolla / Torrey Pines. L'Auberge is a short walk to the beach

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

Oh hell no. They got it about a week ahead but the computer couldn't play it until activation time. Same name as the really really big screens, it eludes me right now... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 11, 2016 9:43 AM, "Ken

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

Interesting. I’m guessing not live streamed though? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica They get their movies through the Internet actually... Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

Sounds like movie theaters might need better Internet connections. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in KansasCity| Ars Technica

When episode 7 was coming out a projectionist kid told me it took days to download the movie - it was pretty good size, like 30 gigs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 11, 2016 9:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

More and more, I am seeing a port charge and a very low bandwidth charge. Bandwidth pricing is going the way of long distance. At some point in the near future, it will be free. You just pay the fixed port charge which will be based on the size of the pipe. I would hope you would see less

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in KansasCity| Ars Technica

Those movies are shipped via a large hard drive, not sure if it is rotating media or solid state. Looks like a kids lunch box from 1966. One projector operator I talked to said a 2 hour movie takes 2 hours to load into the projector. But it does use the internet to turn on the projector.

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

They get their movies through the Internet actually... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 11, 2016 9:12 AM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Strange no one wants landline phone, but they want a giant TV that you can > only

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

Strange no one wants landline phone, but they want a giant TV that you can only watch at home, using Internet that only works at home. Seems like a dead end technology to me. Only good for seniors and kids. Some movie theaters by me have servers that bring actual food and drinks, the screen

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

It depends on the carriers Darin, I just send you an Email. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Yes. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

There is more to that $0.22/meg, though, than is advertised. A lack of BGP communities is a big one as is a high chance of congested peering. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

Yes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Darin Steffl" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:11:16 AM Subject: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

To be fair, they are giving 100Mbps for that $50/mo. On Apr 10, 2016 5:06 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > I’m talking about Comcast’s $10 Internet Essentials. > https://internetessentials.com/ > > Available if child qualifies for school lunch program. Not a contract or > promo price.

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| Ars Technica

I'm 35. Does that count? My 16 year old stepson is into this whole YouTube, Snapchat, and "kik" stuff I can't understand, and I no longer recognize the names of the video games he plays :( On Apr 11, 2016 1:33 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > Me thinks he is one of them