Re: [AFMUG] IPTV

2016-07-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
There are downsides to the solution he has as well. It all depends on how much control you need, and if X channel is important to your subscriber base or not. It also depends on the feature set you want to offer your customers (to truly compete with cable cos). On Jul 3, 2016 8:42 PM, "Jason

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
Okay, if you need encryption, you could go with pfsense on a high clock speed modern Xeon, and get one of the support AES accelerator cards. That should do your 1Gbps encrypted for around $2500 an end. On Jul 3, 2016 8:11 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > None of these are likely to

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

2016-07-03 Thread Justin Wilson
Have had one on top of a grain leg for over a year now. Replaced an x86 maxxwave that was getting close to thermal issues. Also allowed us to eliminate a media converter. Works great. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers -

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Pretty sure a CCR routerboard would do IPSEC tunnels at 1Gbps. Maybe $500 version? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 7:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance None of these are likely to provide the necessary

Re: [AFMUG] IPTV

2016-07-03 Thread Jason McKemie
There is going to have to be something new come to market. With the way things are moving, it's not worth investing in a full setup like most companies are using right now. The system Chuck is working on could be worthwhile when available. On Sunday, July 3, 2016, Aaron Fitzgerald

Re: [AFMUG] IPTV

2016-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
That transport we talked about and I can arrange a cross connect to one. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Aaron Fitzgerald" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday,

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
None of these are likely to provide the necessary encryption. I'm not sure that anything less than IPSEC would be sufficient. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince"

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Rory Conaway
Will a CCR1009 do 1Gbps over a secured VPN tunnel? We run a lot of them but most of our tunnels are fairly low bandwidth. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 4:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance Any can't you use

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown
None other than my own ignorance. From: TJ Trout Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 5:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance Any can't you use a CCR1009 with a EOIP, pptp, etc setup? On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: O*U*C*H OK, need

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Bill Prince
A couple of x86 routers running Mikrotik L2TP between them? bp On 7/3/2016 4:08 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Any can't you use a CCR1009 with a EOIP, pptp, etc setup? On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread TJ Trout
Any can't you use a CCR1009 with a EOIP, pptp, etc setup? On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > O*U*C*H > OK, need cheap too during experimentation (Cheap, solid, high > performance, flawless easy to find, right) > Will take a look at UBNT. I don’t

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown
O*U*C*H OK, need cheap too during experimentation (Cheap, solid, high performance, flawless easy to find, right) Will take a look at UBNT. I don’t know much about their products. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 4:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VPN

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Rory Conaway
The best tunneling device I've seen is Peplink. The catch being, you would need the 2500 to get 1Gbps but it will go up to 2Gbps and it's not cheap, $15K on each side although I'm sure I could help you find a discount. Rock solid, we have run them for months without even touching them and

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Not really a firewall function. A tunneling appliance. Rock solid, low latency, high capacity. From: Craig Schmaderer Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 3:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance Chuck I'm not sure what exactly you want be pfsense is my favorite firewall. Very

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

2016-07-03 Thread Kade Sullivan
You can easily do direct DC using a POE breakout plug. I have little plugs that plug into an ethernet port and give you + and - DC lugs I just deployed one of these to a site feeding an Edgepoint 16 via fiber up the tower. Worked out incredibly well as I could power the mikrotik directly off

Re: [AFMUG] VPN Appliance

2016-07-03 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Chuck I'm not sure what exactly you want be pfsense is my favorite firewall. Very very stable. I have it on vms dell hardware or applience hardware rock solid for years. If you want something more name brand but expensive i still use cisco asas all the time but price for performance can be a

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

2016-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown
OK, now starting to understand it. I will need one of them thar internal power supplies to measure up etc... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 11:39 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling? Most of the CCR's (with the exception of

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

2016-07-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Most of the CCR's (with the exception of the passively cooled models, which just have a barrel connector on the back) have an internal 24v power supply - I think what people are wanting is a box tat will fit in place of the power supply and give them DC terminals where the AC plug currently is.

Re: [AFMUG] IPTV

2016-07-03 Thread Erich Kaiser
Chuck can you send me their info offlist? Thanks! On Jul 3, 2016 10:55 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I am still working on it. Realchoice tv is up and working well provided > you have a VLAN to their headend signal. They are talking to a larger tier > 2 provider about

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

2016-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown
So the device is already DC powered and you need to have terminals rather than the barrel connectors. Do I have a basic understanding? From: Joe Novak Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling? I'll try

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

2016-07-03 Thread Joe Novak
I'll try to snap some pictures on Tuesday when I'm back at the office. I really want some DC terminals on my cloud cores. On Jul 3, 2016 8:57 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Still not totally sure what that photo of the PCB means. > > *From:* Erich Kaiser

Re: [AFMUG] IPTV

2016-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I am still working on it. Realchoice tv is up and working well provided you have a VLAN to their headend signal. They are talking to a larger tier 2 provider about nationwide access for $300/month. From: Aaron Fitzgerald Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

[AFMUG] IPTV

2016-07-03 Thread Aaron Fitzgerald
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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling?

2016-07-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Still not totally sure what that photo of the PCB means. From: Erich Kaiser Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone using the new Mikrotik CCR with passive cooling? Most of the CCRs have 1 PSU, but two header power connectors, if you look at

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

2016-07-03 Thread Paul Stewart
It’s an old arrangement that hasn’t been reviewed in long time … and I’m fine with that :) They used to publish their peering agreement but they don’t any longer. At the time, we met most of their requirements though (but not all)… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike

Re: [AFMUG] Cogent

2016-07-03 Thread Paul Stewart
NDA’s in effect so can’t post specific numbers … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: July 2, 2016 6:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cogent I agree, Cogent does not want a PNI they want to sell you their transit and don't care what you do