[AFMUG] ❤so strange but interesting

2017-05-09 Thread Af
Greetings! I know it might be something strange, but still so interesting, you have to see it here http://sharpsville.schif.org Regards, Af From: af [mailto:af@afmug.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:14 AM To: john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz Subject: Exactly. I know your post is a tad old,

Re: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor II: Independence of PWR1 & PWR2

2017-05-09 Thread Sorin Esanu
We’ve experienced this exact same behaviour last week. It seems like PWR1 and PWR2 are acting like one now. We are in process of replacing all the SiteMonitor II devices with Tycon TPDIN-Monitor-WEB2, which can monitor more things and it’s a lot smarter. > On 10 May 2017, at 01:31, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding to tower

2017-05-09 Thread Jason McKemie
Did you tie the bonding wire to the tower at regular intervals? Just to the main ground at the base? What size wire did you use? On Tuesday, May 9, 2017, George Skorup wrote: > We've done it both ways, and I'm not going to tell you that it's 100% one > way or the other. But based on experience,

Re: [AFMUG] epmp wont hold subscribers

2017-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
the AP I replaced from 1000 to 2000 with a dump worked swimmingly, its the one I manually programmed, what a mess it was too much odd shit in the packetcapture for my taste On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:02 PM, George Skorup wrote: > If it was on the same IP as the 1k AP, then you could be seeing brow

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding to tower

2017-05-09 Thread George Skorup
We've done it both ways, and I'm not going to tell you that it's 100% one way or the other. But based on experience, where we've lost gear from the steel bonding method, we went back and ran a bonding wire up and tied all of our gear to it and losses went down quite a lot. But I would also ag

Re: [AFMUG] epmp wont hold subscribers

2017-05-09 Thread George Skorup
If it was on the same IP as the 1k AP, then you could be seeing browser cache. Chrome really pisses me off with that. I've seen similar in the past after replacing an AP. Export the config from the old one. Import to the new one. Log in.. looks fine. No customers registered. Wiped Chrome cache

Re: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor II: Independence of PWR1 & PWR2

2017-05-09 Thread George Skorup
Pwr1 negative, pwr2 negative, shunt negative and I believe one of the switch input legs are all common. On 5/9/2017 8:42 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: The only thing that comes to mind is a short through ground. -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> To: "Mo

Re: [AFMUG] winbox 3

2017-05-09 Thread George Skorup
The first few Winbox 3.x's were total crap. 3.11 which is the latest works fine for me. Can't think of any recent issues with it. The winbox application is the loader. When you connect to a router, the loader downloads the plugins (DLLs) from the router and then starts your session, assuming l

Re: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor II: Independence of PWR1 & PWR2

2017-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett
The only thing that comes to mind is a short through ground. -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Prince" To: "Motorola III" Sent: 5/9/2017 6:31:30 PM Subject: [AFMUG] SiteMonitor II: Independence of PWR1 & PWR2 I think I have a SiteMonitor II with a problem, as I always thought that t

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding to tower

2017-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
Bbdge gives you a lot of copper surface. When we actually get around to it we bond the antenna/radio to the same point we bond the top of the bbdge on the structure. I think youre supposed to bond structure joints. Then we bond the bbdge as it enters the enclosure, then we bond the surge suppressor

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Very few native radios...most are converted from IF or such, but I know what you mean...some UDCs are crap...I guess it would be expensive at frequencies above 6GHz ...gallium arsenide components for one... On May 9, 2017 5:11 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Sure, they work... but that doesn't mean

Re: [AFMUG] winbox 3

2017-05-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
Make sure to check for updates. Dennis Burgess www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Philip Rankin Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 4:58 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Sure, they work... but that doesn't mean they don't suck compared to native radios. On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > How you think some 900MHz and 11GHz products work? Convertors > > On May 9, 2017 3:58 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > >> Up-down converters tend to suck for m

Re: [AFMUG] epmp wont hold subscribers

2017-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
I'm at the POP I ended up factory defaulting it odd traffic on the wireshark connected direct to the radio, including spanning tree, the 192.168.0.1 didn't respond, it was arp on 10.1. something, .3 got in and set the essid and key, customers connected, rebooted and it was arping that whole subnet

Re: [AFMUG] epmp wont hold subscribers

2017-05-09 Thread Kevin Neal
Have you verified the authentication key? What does one of the SMs log say? On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > replaced this epmp 1000 with an epmp 2000 today, up until now there were > 11 subs on it > I put the same firmware, 3.2.2 as the 1000, it was a lite, so I upgraded >

[AFMUG] SiteMonitor II: Independence of PWR1 & PWR2

2017-05-09 Thread Bill Prince
I think I have a SiteMonitor II with a problem, as I always thought that the two power sensors (PWR1 and PWR2) were independent of each other, and should have a pretty high impedance between then. We set up a new solar site, and put our load on PWR1 and the batteries on PWR2. As soon as we hook u

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
How you think some 900MHz and 11GHz products work? Convertors On May 9, 2017 3:58 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > Up-down converters tend to suck for many reasons, adding the fact that > many modern factors would increase a modern up-down converter's cost over > the old units ( need two polarizati

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding to tower

2017-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Many studies have proven that plain ole Franklin method I recommended is better than all those fancy gadgets. We ground coaxial cable to same run. The lighting arrester is bonded to this same ground. Tower leg is bonded to same rod or ring. The path we provide by using lightning rod has worked.

[AFMUG] epmp wont hold subscribers

2017-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
replaced this epmp 1000 with an epmp 2000 today, up until now there were 11 subs on it I put the same firmware, 3.2.2 as the 1000, it was a lite, so I upgraded the key to full thinking it would be something to do with that all the subscribers come on, and go off, like interference, ive tried chang

Re: [AFMUG] winbox 3

2017-05-09 Thread Chris Wright
Winbox v3 came out almost three years ago… What happens if you try to use the older Winbox version? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Philip Rankin Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:58 PM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] winbox 3 I have recen

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding to tower

2017-05-09 Thread Dave
R56 wants all radio head equipment grounded to Tower Leg.. NOT the mount or a separate bus to the ground. The Flower thingys at the top of a 200' tower works great. Make sure tower is grounded and bonds to Main Earth Ground.Examples are ground rings or line with rods twice the length spacing fr

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Colin Stanners
Up-down converters tend to suck for many reasons, adding the fact that many modern factors would increase a modern up-down converter's cost over the old units ( need two polarizations, high-end amplifiers due to OFDM PAPR, tight tx/rx cycles etc). In the end a cheap 5ghz radio and an 60ghz UDC woul

[AFMUG] winbox 3

2017-05-09 Thread Philip Rankin
I have recently downloaded a new version of Winbox, Winbox 3, I think. It has a different gui than the old winbox software that I have always used. anyway, it picked up all of my router informations that I had stored in my old Winbox and it worked perfectly for a few days. Then one day, it faile

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding to tower

2017-05-09 Thread Jason McKemie
That's not really possible in this case. What do you think about bonding equipment to the tower vs a separate ground wire? I certainly don't want to make the equipment more of a target. On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I am a firm believer in putting lightning rod at high

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding to tower

2017-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
something wicked this way comes From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 3:29 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Grounding to tower I am a firm believer in putting lightning rod at highest point of tower with direct cable run to buried ring or rod next to it. Has worked well in ou

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Harold Bledsoe
It probably could be made legally but really it wouldn't be very cost effective. RFIC is probably the most cost effective. On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:07 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Wonder who will be first to make a 5Ghz to 60GHz UDC?Is it even legal? > > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Archit

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Hey Eric, It transmits enough to maintain the link (<0.1% of airtime). So it should not cause problems with coexistence on the same channel. -Hal On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:34 PM Eric Muehleisen wrote: > Is the 5ghz backup radio enabled and transmitting all the time or does it > only come on du

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding to tower

2017-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am a firm believer in putting lightning rod at highest point of tower with direct cable run to buried ring or rod next to it. Has worked well in our area. On May 9, 2017 3:25 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: Wanted to get some opinions on grounding equipment at a tower site (on the tower). The tow

[AFMUG] Grounding to tower

2017-05-09 Thread Jason McKemie
Wanted to get some opinions on grounding equipment at a tower site (on the tower). The tower and shelter are all properly grounded, it's a solid-steel leg tower. Right now I'm grounded via clamps to the tower. My question is would it be better/worse/the same to run a copper ground cable up to th

Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus

2017-05-09 Thread Ben Royer
I’d be interested in that support tree if you wouldn’t mind sending offlist? Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Manager Royell Communications, Inc. 217-965-3699 www.royell.net From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 1:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ServerPlus If you want to

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wonder who will be first to make a 5Ghz to 60GHz UDC?Is it even legal? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > Is the 5ghz backup radio enabled and transmitting all the time or does it > only come on during fade events.

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha FXM2000

2017-05-09 Thread Randy Cosby
Sterling, Where did you find the temperature kits? Randy From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 8:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha FXM2000 We have a few of those, some of which I’ve gotten off Ebay, and even o

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
I hope you know the source of the infection...if not...awkward... Conrats! On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:41 PM Darren Shea wrote: > Even after seeing the stick, it didn’t quite register until I re-read > everything you’d typed in this thread - clever! Congratulations! > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-bo

Re: [AFMUG] The Scope

2017-05-09 Thread Bill Prince
Which scope? Which vendor? Chuck sold a scope. Ignitenet does a scope. On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > who are you referring to ? > > Ignite folks or Chuck ? > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(30

Re: [AFMUG] The Scope

2017-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
If you are talking about my scope, I took it off the site (I think) as google blacklisted me for selling munitions go figure... From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 2:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Scope who are you referring to ? Ignite folks or Chuck ? Fa

Re: [AFMUG] The Scope

2017-05-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
who are you referring to ? Ignite folks or Chuck ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Is the 5ghz backup radio enabled and transmitting all the time or does it only come on during fade events. I would hate to chew up valuable 5ghz spectrum to be used only 00.01% of the time. On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: > High level, think fiber to the pole and wireless l

Re: [AFMUG] The Scope

2017-05-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Bump? :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 26, 2017 9:51 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Site says out of stock and there's no scope. Is this still a thing? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Harold Bledsoe
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-fired_ceramic Is what we use now. Specifically the LTCC variety. There's pros and cons. It is possible to use something like Teflon like you said and we started there but now prefer ceramics. Hal On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 3:56 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > That is f

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
That is for certain, gotta use exotic substrates. Not sure even teflon is good at that freq. From: Harold Bledsoe Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 1:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It? Yep and also the materials matter a lot. No FR4 for these bab

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Harold Bledsoe
High level, think fiber to the pole and wireless last few hundred meters. Basically everything is street level in that case. You can do fixed wireless off of 60GHz and maybe 5GHz. Wi-Fi then for best effort service. One thing to keep in mind is that in a lot of cities, half the folks don't have b

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Yep and also the materials matter a lot. No FR4 for these babies... On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:59 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > All antenna designs scale. Things are just much smaller at this > frequency. > > *From:* Joe Novak > *Sent:* Monday, May 08, 2017 7:39 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* R

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Darren Shea
Even after seeing the stick, it didn’t quite register until I re-read everything you’d typed in this thread - clever! Congratulations! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall mainten

Re: [AFMUG] MTC SS

2017-05-09 Thread Jason McKemie
Thanks Chuck! On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Well, many folks recommend a #6 wire due to the national electric code > specifying that size for ground wires. But I am pretty sure you cannot fit > that in the box. #10 will be just fine. Even smaller will do. Bigger is >

Re: [AFMUG] MTC SS

2017-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, many folks recommend a #6 wire due to the national electric code specifying that size for ground wires. But I am pretty sure you cannot fit that in the box. #10 will be just fine. Even smaller will do. Bigger is better of course. I really do not know the largest wire that you can pra

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Look at the bottom of this page in regards to performance. https://routerboard.com/RB1100AHx2 Look at the last entry... for expected performance... don't look at the best numbers, but rather look at the worst numbers And you will quickly recognize that rb1100ahx2 as a multi-function

[AFMUG] MTC SS

2017-05-09 Thread Jason McKemie
Chuck - Do you have any recommendations on grounding wire for use with your outdoor surge suppressors? I'm looking to put some 800-DCSS-SS and 800-GIGE-SS-HV units on towers. -Jason

[AFMUG] Cambium Medusa DC power

2017-05-09 Thread Carl Peterson
Am I correct that the new Medusa radios take DC power on the "PSU" port? Is it +48, -48, polarity agnostic/isolated? Working on upgrade planning and all of our core sites already have -48 rectifier shelves.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Chris Wright
Had me going until the very end! Well played and congratulations to you both! Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 9:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance Pick an

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Full routes is far from overrated. You can't run uRPF without full routes. You can't have proper traffic flow data without full routes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bruce Robert

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Bruce Robertson
Also, running full routes is somewhat overrated. You can get the same failover and 95% of the same balancing with some clever filters. I usually go ahead and have them feed me full routes, but then I filter them down to just a few, making sure each upstream gets its own routes. On 5/9/17 4:2

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Robert Andrews
Congratulations... Looking forward to more rational discourse from the newer RNA strings... On 5/8/17 7:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote: So this weekend I discovered a Trojan virus on my network. Sometime around January we had opted to remove an old firewall that had met its product life cycles end.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
omg, lol, this was funny On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: > Yep, reading down list, I see my suspicions were correct. Definitely > congrats, and well written! > > > On 5/9/17 9:30 AM, Bruce Robertson wrote: > >> U... congratulations? >> >> On 5/8/17 7:49 PM, Steve Jone

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Bruce Robertson
Yep, reading down list, I see my suspicions were correct. Definitely congrats, and well written! On 5/9/17 9:30 AM, Bruce Robertson wrote: U... congratulations? On 5/8/17 7:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote: So this weekend I discovered a Trojan virus on my network. Sometime around January we had

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Bruce Robertson
U... congratulations? On 5/8/17 7:49 PM, Steve Jones wrote: So this weekend I discovered a Trojan virus on my network. Sometime around January we had opted to remove an old firewall that had met its product life cycles end. We were still in the process of deciding whether to continue with

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Brian Sullivan
Pick any brand of Chinese anti-virus and that will do the trick! Congrats! On 5/9/2017 11:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: I cannot believe you haha! Great way to announce a pregnancy lol 😂😂 On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:13 PM Joe Novak > wrote: LOL. Excellent delivery. Con

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Darin Steffl
I cannot believe you haha! Great way to announce a pregnancy lol 😂😂 On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:13 PM Joe Novak wrote: > LOL. Excellent delivery. Congrats Steve! > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Steve Jones > wrote: > >> Hers the initial diagnostic output >> >> On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve Jo

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Joe Novak
LOL. Excellent delivery. Congrats Steve! On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > Hers the initial diagnostic output > > On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > >> There is only one infected device. The malicious code that is replicating >> is directly attached to the comman

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread James Howard
Congratulations Steve! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance Hers the initial diagnostic output On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve Jones" mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Gino A. Villarini
What is this angie thing… can’t wrap my head around it yet From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 8:00 AM To: "af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Hey Hal, don’t forget to send me those TRILL units specs From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 8:00 AM To: "af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Directional Boring Quote / Costs

2017-05-09 Thread Joe
Paying “per foot” for directional drilling…. Is like comparing “per pound’ on what it costs to buy a car. Cobalt or Cadillac… Soil conditions, permits, product, travel time, etc… all make the difference. If there was 1150ft drilling work across the street from me… I would do it for $400

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yep.. ☺ Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net Radio F

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Mikrotik will do the job fine, you just need a bigger Mikrotik... x86 based, preferably. On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > We are running OSPF and an EOIP tunnel. Eventually MPLS/VPLS. at this > point, this isn't really a job for Mikrotik is it? The contractor is a > multiven

Re: [AFMUG] Directional Boring Quote / Costs

2017-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
I used to get that price, but now-a-days all the boring companies are sooo busy and booked up they have all increased their pricing. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 8:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Directional Boring Quote / Costs that pricing sounds right On T

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
We are running OSPF and an EOIP tunnel. Eventually MPLS/VPLS. at this point, this isn't really a job for Mikrotik is it? The contractor is a multivendor shop, with a Cisco preference. We just stayed with the rb1100ahx2 because its what we use throughout the network, we knew it might be underpowered

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
All antenna designs scale. Things are just much smaller at this frequency. From: Joe Novak Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 7:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It? I have read that building a 60ghz antenna is a whole new ball game of complicated com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
There is only one infected device. The malicious code that is replicating is directly attached to the command and control node. I know a lot of people would simply CleanSweep, but we just don't feel that is an appropriate step. There may be an IOT baby monitor that gets swept up in all this before

Re: [AFMUG] Directional Boring Quote / Costs

2017-05-09 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
that pricing sounds right On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > On my project, I am doing some DBs and have a quote that I want to compare > to see if its inline. It probably is, I am just dealing with sticker shock > of $ 15K to do this. > > > > It is actually 4 bores (has to ma

[AFMUG] 3.5 GHz CBRS

2017-05-09 Thread Ray Savich
RCR Wireless just posted and article about using the 3.5 GHz CBRS band. Share your questions and comments at http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/WISP-Business/Using-the-3-5-GHz-CBRS-Band/m-p/72630#U72630 Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
1100ahx2 is not a good bgp router, go with a CCR 1036 at min, else PowerRouter would be preferred. However, the CCRs can handle it as long as you don’t load them with other stuffs. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant

[AFMUG] Directional Boring Quote / Costs

2017-05-09 Thread Paul McCall
On my project, I am doing some DBs and have a quote that I want to compare to see if its inline. It probably is, I am just dealing with sticker shock of $ 15K to do this. It is actually 4 bores (has to make some right angles without room for "sweeps", totaling 1150 feet at $13 per foot, includ

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Stefan Englhardt
For Microcells Mimosa has done a good form factor. It has to be something which could attach to the end of a pole. No windload, working omnidirectional and look pleasing. As soon as these microcells are between houses they have to look like a nice lamp and not like a small cellphone tower. We ha

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-09 Thread David Milholen
As any virus running on a network it has a pattern weather it be dormant on the network at times or not. Identify the pattern and where it is trying to phone home to and isolate it from phoning home. Then Clean sweep the machines you have control of. The worst part of any of this is that IOT

Re: [AFMUG] nTop

2017-05-09 Thread David Milholen
This is something I have fought for a while but I think I will give it a try and pay for the license to see how well does since its free operation. On 5/8/2017 9:33 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Been a while since I've had to do anything like this, but I want to take a flow from Mikro

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Hey Sterling, No worries, we will have 15 CPE per sector support in mid June (software update). The next step will be 32 (another software update). :-) -Hal On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:29 PM Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I don't have a problem with their range or capacity. > > What I do have an is

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-09 Thread Harold Bledsoe
There's a lot more "tools" coming this year that will continue to make building gigabit wireless networks with 60GHz easier and easier. With today's tools it is already possible to build 500m radius cells @ 99.99% in rain zone K - even with a resi-friendly 8in. size. If you bump that up to 1' siz

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
I've seen on a 1036-2S+ where the route table doesn't reflect changes for 10 minutes (via the filter in IP Routes) and then where traffic doesn't actually change course for another 10 minutes after that. That's not good. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Intern

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
If it's eating the entire core (which it is), it isn't doing fine. You're not having timely route convergence. On the 1100AHx2 vs. 1100AHx4: https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1200772160048234 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange T

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Works quite well and very stable on the bigger CCR models (memory). We use 2x CCR1036-8G-2S+. Eating one of the cpus for the bgp process. 1100AHx2 cpu is a bit slow. There is a newer 1100AHx4 which is twice as fast as 1100AHx2. Mikrotik BGP Routers are holy cows. There are no updates/config cha

Re: [AFMUG] nTop

2017-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.ntop.org/get-started/download/ Still looks free to me. It will be missing the BGP information, which you can re-assemble via pmacct/nfacct. I haven't done it, so I don't know how. Well, other than the basics of you peer it to your BGP router so it can fill in the blanks. It doesn't

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
I hear there are some versions better than others in terms of BGP performance, but Mikrotik BGP really belongs on x86 boxes until v7 is out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "can...@be

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-09 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Take a look at /tool profile (on in Winbox) to see where the CPU load is going. It is probably going to routing for BGP but you can verify it here. Is anything else running on the router? OSPF, VPN, PPPoE, etc? Where BGP really matters is when you lose one of your peers and it goes through and up