Re: [AFMUG] ot: paypal payments

2017-05-26 Thread Carlos Alcantar
you also have to think there is a % of people who just let the money sit in paypal, and they go make money with your money just like a bank, even if it's overnight type of investment transactions. Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA.

Re: [AFMUG] ot: paypal payments

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
So, how are service fees handled? I don't have an issue with a fee, my tax lady takes care of it if I pay it. I got behind paypal once I got a payment over 1k from a legitimate actual company, If they paid me wrong because they have a guy who knows how to skirt taxes, I don't want anything to do wi

Re: [AFMUG] ot: paypal payments

2017-05-26 Thread Colin Stanners
You're not a merchant or those are friends/family type no-fee transactions. For business recipients they take a few %, that adds up really quickly. https://www.quora.com/How-does-PayPal-make-money-1 On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > How does paypal make money outside paypal

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
you robbed them too? On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:21 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > > 5 at like 17.98 or some nonsense > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: "Steve Jones" > To: "af@afmug.com" > Subject: [AFMUG] kodi? > Dat

[AFMUG] ot: paypal payments

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
How does paypal make money outside paypal buyer credit? I remember way bac in the day, it was two things to take a payment or make a payment. I prefer to pay with paaypal, I actually will opt not to donate to certain causes (dick that I am, a big percentage of my income goes to donations, like don'

Re: [AFMUG] Paul's SUMMARY: List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business related discussions

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
can we revisit this quarterly? On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Hey Paul …. thanks for the clarification and apologies if I suggested that > this was around cost…. I know I do and many folks on this list appreciate > the work being done here to support the list. > > I like a

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
5 at like 17.98 or some nonsense Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] kodi? Date: Fri, May 26, 2017 10:39 PM I remember back in the day, there was BMG, you could order your 99 cent CD and get like 13 free

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYCiTx7TwEI - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:29:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? Goo

[AFMUG] OT: aging and shouldas

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
I'm only 39, not that old, given my lifestyle, particularly in my formative years, my doctor would describe me as a very robust 92 year old. Ive been in and out of work for the last week because of ringing in my ears. I was freaked out as fist, given a blackout on a tower last month, that I was pre

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
I remember back in the day, there was BMG, you could order your 99 cent CD and get like 13 free as long as you committed to ordering something like 5 over the next year, the margin was so big they could do that without a diehard contract. I ripped them off like 5 times without recourse I think the

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
This was 15 years ago. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? Can you actually contact an automated bot? :) Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: Subject: [AFMUG] kodi? Date:

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
:) Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: Subject: [AFMUG] kodi? Date: Fri, May 26, 2017 10:04 PM This was 15 years ago. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? Can you ac

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Can you actually contact an automated bot? :) Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: Subject: [AFMUG] kodi? Date: Fri, May 26, 2017 9:53 PM I used to have some pretty pointed language in my AUP. Something along the lines of we consider you

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Hey man I was just herethis ain't my stu Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Steve Jones" To: Subject: [AFMUG] kodi? Date: Fri, May 26, 2017 9:35 PM Can i rent your living room to cook meth? When your door gets kicked in will you reimburse me th

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
I used to have some pretty pointed language in my AUP. Something along the lines of we consider you guilty until proven innocent and we will suspend you on complaint. Then when it happened, we made them contact whatever agency sent the complaint and made them get an all clear from them. Fir

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Al Rachide
This thread gives proof to the need to have a "no illegal activity" clause in our TOS. We are just starting our WISP, Eastern carolina Broadband, and I have been charged with the job of consolidating our TOS into a readable form. This WILL be addressed before we sign up our first customer. To all t

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
Can i rent your living room to cook meth? When your door gets kicked in will you reimburse me the cost of the door? On May 26, 2017 9:12 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: Yeah. He calls in reporting his internet is down because we turned him off until we could get in touch with him. I explained that we

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Good luck. Even this list (which is supposed to be technical) is acting like a 70 year old man hearing that devil's rock and roll for the first time. - Josh On May 26, 2017 7:40 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Let's be sure to delineate Kodi from the illegal content plugins. > > > > - > Mike Ha

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Jay Weekley
Yeah. He calls in reporting his internet is down because we turned him off until we could get in touch with him. I explained that we had received at least 200 copyright violation notices and his first question was is he going to get a credit on his bill. I kind of lost cool and said, "no, yo

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Hahyou do it ! Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: Subject: [AFMUG] kodi? Date: Fri, May 26, 2017 7:34 PM Come on. Share! CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > we made contact with the guy. i don't really want to share what he > said. > lets j

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Let's be sure to delineate Kodi from the illegal content plugins. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:38:31 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
I would recommend any further communications with this dope be via recorded line or email, just in case you get a homeland visit On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:29 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > we made contact with the guy. i don't really want to share what he said. > lets just say he thinks he is

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
FYI, kodi has been hit, the subtitles were hijacked to inject malicious voodoo. I use kodi, with exodus for programs I like its illegal amazon banned them, they will literally destroy your inventory facebook banned them google is looking at how to ban them I just got a raspberry pi 3 to make a dedi

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Jay Weekley
Come on. Share! CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: we made contact with the guy. i don't really want to share what he said. lets just say he thinks he is above the law and basically doesn't have service with us anymore - Original Message - *From:* Paul Stewart

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
we made contact with the guy. i don't really want to share what he said. lets just say he thinks he is above the law and basically doesn't have service with us anymore - Original Message - From: Paul Stewart To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:22 PM Subject

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
Well I suppose I could, but hell I don’t want to.. 😊 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:22 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences I think they have that stuff in airlink, but you can always just look up the spec sheet

Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

2017-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Active cooling means fans which means power :P - Josh On May 26, 2017 7:05 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Seems like that could be overcome with some active cooling. It sure would > be handy if something like this existed. > > On Friday, May 26, 2017, Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> No. Optics and tho

Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

2017-05-26 Thread Jason McKemie
Seems like that could be overcome with some active cooling. It sure would be handy if something like this existed. On Friday, May 26, 2017, Josh Reynolds wrote: > No. Optics and those chassis use quite a bit of power and generate quite a > bit of heat. An E7-2 has massive fans that rival that of

Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

2017-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
No. Optics and those chassis use quite a bit of power and generate quite a bit of heat. An E7-2 has massive fans that rival that of Dell 1U dense/long servers. - Josh On May 26, 2017 5:48 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Does Calix have an all-outdoor GPON unit like this? > > On Friday, May 26, 201

Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

2017-05-26 Thread Jason McKemie
Does Calix have an all-outdoor GPON unit like this? On Friday, May 26, 2017, Robert Haas wrote: > A little late – but that appears to be a calix e3-48. > > These can be line powered from remote and do not require AC power on site. > We have about ~60 of the e3-12c and 4 of the e3-48’s deployed.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
Of I remember long ago we users a 100 inch range for the initial site in on our A2. I think most of the ranges around here are 75 feet or so. On Fri, May 26, 2017, 4:52 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Need some tannerite. > > How much room do you need for an indoor shooting range? It is about 50 > fee

Re: [AFMUG] August 21,2017 eclipse.

2017-05-26 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
So if you have a DSLR you're planning on taking pictures with, consider joining the project I linked to. What they're hoping for is to get around 1000 (or more) people to upload their picture set to be able to make a very high resolution movie of the solar eclipse across the entire north america s

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread George Skorup
I enjoy shooting my AR-10 more than anything. On 5/26/2017 4:46 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote: I don't know about everywhere else, but RPG in Utah is Role Playing Game. At least we won't be bored. I'll bring 100k rounds of ammo and my arsenal of guns to go with it. 3 9mm, 2 .380s, 2 12 gauge sh

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
O'Doul's would be welcome too. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:12 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage I will bring cases of Tecate, Modelo, Carta Blanca and tamales... On May 26, 2017 3:19 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: And the PBRs. Jay Weekley wrote: I'll

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
I will bring cases of Tecate, Modelo, Carta Blanca and tamales... On May 26, 2017 3:19 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > And the PBRs. > > Jay Weekley wrote: > >> I'll bring the RPGs. >> >> Jeremy wrote: >> >>> LMAO! >>> >>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Chris Wright >> >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Robert
Seals practice in a 10x10 room... On 5/26/17 2:52 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Need some tannerite. How much room do you need for an indoor shooting range? It is about 50 feet long. -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: R

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Need some tannerite. How much room do you need for an indoor shooting range? It is about 50 feet long. -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage I don't know about everywhere else, but RPG in Utah i

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Jay Weekley
You can take out a few zombies with that lineup. Brett A Mansfield wrote: I don't know about everywhere else, but RPG in Utah is Role Playing Game. At least we won't be bored. I'll bring 100k rounds of ammo and my arsenal of guns to go with it. 3 9mm, 2 .380s, 2 12 gauge shotguns, 2 AR 15s, a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I don't know about everywhere else, but RPG in Utah is Role Playing Game. At least we won't be bored. I'll bring 100k rounds of ammo and my arsenal of guns to go with it. 3 9mm, 2 .380s, 2 12 gauge shotguns, 2 AR 15s, a 30-06, and 5 22 long rifles Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On May 26, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't have an RPG but I do have an isreali tavor with both a thermal scope and a red dot. Can I get in? On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:19 PM Jay Weekley wrote: > And the PBRs. > > Jay Weekley wrote: > > I'll bring the RPGs. > > > > Jeremy wrote: > >> LMAO! > >> > >> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:11 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Does this centurylink box need AC power in ROW?

2017-05-26 Thread Robert Haas
A little late – but that appears to be a calix e3-48. These can be line powered from remote and do not require AC power on site. We have about ~60 of the e3-12c and 4 of the e3-48’s deployed. All line powered from the office using 3-6 pair and 360vdc. (+180, -180) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
I think they have that stuff in airlink, but you can always just look up the spec sheets for all the relevant parts and calculate it manually. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:18 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > I can use Link Planner to check LOS. But the 820 in Link Planner will > have very different r

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Paul Stewart
A lot of the free content comes from pawned servers and computers that are on high speed links …. the paid services are typically dedicated servers rented with flat rate bandwidth … at least with that I’ve figured out ... > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ]

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Jay Weekley
And the PBRs. Jay Weekley wrote: I'll bring the RPGs. Jeremy wrote: LMAO! On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Chris Wright > wrote: Apocalypse party at Chuck's house! I'll be coming from California so I'll bring my lack of foresight and a vast sense of entit

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
I can use Link Planner to check LOS. But the 820 in Link Planner will have very different radio Tx powers and receive sensitivities. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:07 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences I t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Jay Weekley
I'll bring the RPGs. Jeremy wrote: LMAO! On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Chris Wright > wrote: Apocalypse party at Chuck's house! I'll be coming from California so I'll bring my lack of foresight and a vast sense of entitlement. Chris Wright Netwo

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
Liz does the coordination. But we need to calculate the antenna size need to have an 4 or 5 nines link. Normally I would use the manufacture i.e. exalt or Ceragon. Or if Ceragon or Cambium use Link Planner. Who or What is there for AF11? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Jeremy
LMAO! On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > Apocalypse party at Chuck's house! I'll be coming from California so I'll > bring my lack of foresight and a vast sense of entitlement. > > Chris Wright > Network Administrator > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Chris Wright
Apocalypse party at Chuck's house! I'll be coming from California so I'll bring my lack of foresight and a vast sense of entitlement. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:23 P

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Layne Sisk
Kodi is the Napster of video in my mind. Not sure if their enabling of illegal content will get them in trouble or not, but I think they are going to be required to attempt to control it. Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 [New logo xl] [Utah 100] [fa

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Who is paying for all this bandwidth that the *servers* are providing for "ill-legitimate" content? On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Mark, > > Here is the link I was talking about > > http://blog.skystreamx.com/fix-kodi-buffering/ > > > > *-- Best regards, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Robert Andrews
That was my first thought... Prepper garage... On 05/26/2017 11:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Well, it is Utah... *From:* Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 12:14 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage That looks more like a bunker. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:41 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] PowerBox Pro

2017-05-26 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah - we'll be deploying our first S16's soon (instead of Netonix). Hope they work out. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Looking for a solution that doesn’t require an external box, etc. > > > > A 2nd S16 is the same price (without a box) as Netonix I think. Chris’s > des

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
I think airlink,ubnt.com supports 11ghz now, so that can be used to get a fairly good idea of what it's going to do... also, Mimosa's tool is pretty nice. But when you know you have a clear path and what the distance is, it's not very hard to calculate what the link is going to do... frequency pla

Re: [AFMUG] PowerBox Pro

2017-05-26 Thread Paul McCall
We use S16s elsewhere on fully loaded towers with 320s. But we have two with long lengths that are still getting 48v to the top but apparently, not enough amperage From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:01 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] P

Re: [AFMUG] PowerBox Pro

2017-05-26 Thread Paul McCall
Looking for a solution that doesn’t require an external box, etc. A 2nd S16 is the same price (without a box) as Netonix I think. Chris’s description of port sensitivity issues on Netonix also scare us off From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] PowerBox Pro

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
I haven't even seen a PowerBox Pro yet, but I'm assuming it's the same guts as a hEX PoE/RB960PGS, which I do have in my hand at the moment... I can tell you that they'll power an AF-5X or ePMP AP without any issues, but I don't know about anything beyond that. If the S16 isn't putting out enough p

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Josh Baird
Liz Creekmore at IntelPath. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:59 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > Using? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences > > > > DIY > > > > On Fri, Ma

Re: [AFMUG] PowerBox Pro

2017-05-26 Thread Josh Baird
Power with DC and have SFP interfaces? Netonix. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > That being said, is there anything similar to power with fiber at 48v, > short of a 2nd S16? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall > *Sent:* Friday, May 26

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
Using? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:55 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences DIY On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband mailto:li...@sbb.net> > wrote: How are you Link Planning your AF11 links?

Re: [AFMUG] PowerBox Pro

2017-05-26 Thread Paul McCall
That being said, is there anything similar to power with fiber at 48v, short of a 2nd S16? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PowerBox Pro Has anybody used these to provide power to anything signifi

Re: [AFMUG] PowerBox Pro

2017-05-26 Thread Paul McCall
May have answered my own question... Ports 2 - 5, 802.3af/at, max 1 A per port (input < 30 V), max 450 mA per port (input > 30 V), max out total: 2 A Doesn't seem like it has quite enough it this is a true statement. The 320's take about 500ma sustained and I think a bit more to power up. Pa

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
DIY On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:45 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > How are you Link Planning your AF11 links? > > > > Does UBNT do link Planning? > > > > Reseller? > > > > DIY? > > > > Other?? > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, M

[AFMUG] PowerBox Pro

2017-05-26 Thread Paul McCall
Has anybody used these to provide power to anything significant? I have (2) towers with 400+ runs of 12awg from bottom to top with a 10AMP 56v/48v power supply going to a fully loaded S16 including (2) Cambium 320s (using power adapter) . We are getting 48v actual at the top, BUT plugging the

Re: [AFMUG] kodi?

2017-05-26 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] kodi? Mark, Here is the link I was talking about http://blog.skystreamx.com/fix-kodi-buffering/ -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www

Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-26 Thread chuck
I have only used vibratory plows with a chute, so not sure a serrated plow blade would be a great help. Have not seen one. From: Joe Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade Great question… there is a few key differences. With a

Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-26 Thread Joe
Great question… there is a few key differences. With a chute, you can drop in multiple conduit… BIG advantage, sometimes we put in 2x 1.5” or 1.5” plus a ¾”. One for fiber, one for power if a customer wants power at a driveway (gates, light, sensor) If you are required to put in a “cauti

[AFMUG] RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT-US

2017-05-26 Thread Paul McCall
http://www.balticnetworks.com/mikrotik-hap-ac-gigabit-dual-band-indoor-access-point-built-in-antennas-us.html?utm_source=CUSTOMERS&utm_campaign=72b4381c24-LWJA_MikroTik_2017_05_26&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_bedfd17547-72b4381c24-221077597&mc_cid=72b4381c24&mc_eid=967f714545 So does this unit hav

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread SmarterBroadband
How are you Link Planning your AF11 links? Does UBNT do link Planning? Reseller? DIY? Other?? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:43 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences We have one up... other th

Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-26 Thread Jason McKemie
It's probably going to be a 410sx, but I wouldn't be doing anything bigger than 3/4". On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:29 PM, wrote: > I prefer a chute. But you need a bigger machine for those. Depends on > what you are plowing I guess. I have not seen 1.25” put in by pulling. > > *From:* Jason McKe

Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-26 Thread chuck
I prefer a chute. But you need a bigger machine for those. Depends on what you are plowing I guess. I have not seen 1.25” put in by pulling. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade Are there situations for which o

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread chuck
That room is yet to be poured. I have a tunnel connecting the basement to the garage and there will be a food storage room off of the tunnel. From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage Imagine all the food storage that can fit

Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-26 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
The chute is much harder to pull through the ground (in our experience). The pulling blade pulls a narrow blade through whereas the chute has to open a 2” gap. Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason

[AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

2017-05-26 Thread Jason McKemie
Are there situations for which one is better than the other? I know pulling limits your distance, I'm not sure otherwise.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Imagine all the food storage that can fit in there!! > On May 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM, wrote: > > Well, it is Utah... > > From: Cameron Crum <> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:14 PM > To: af@afmug.com <> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage > > That looks more like a bunker. > > On Fri, May

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread chuck
Well, it is Utah... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage That looks more like a bunker. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:41 PM, wrote: Slightly more than B deck but no posts or pillars underneath. It gets a 3" cap of concrete p

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread chuck
No rebar or mesh. Just control joints sawed into it after it is cast. The pre stressed slabs have a load limitation based on their span etc. I think it is 150 lbs per square foot or something like it on my 32 foot spans. So if you don't overload it, should work just fine for earth sheltered

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Cameron Crum
That looks more like a bunker. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:41 PM, wrote: > Slightly more than B deck but no posts or pillars underneath. It gets a > 3" cap of concrete poured over it. > > -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:26 AM > To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Bill Prince
Does the cap get rebar or mesh or anything? I presume those are pres-tressed concrete? They look like it. Also looks like you could use those for an earth sheltered structure? bp On 5/26/2017 10:41 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Slightly more than B deck but no posts or pillars underneath. It g

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
Also, if you're not going to be paying the full license cost if you're just switching to different radios here. I think it should be well under $1k in licensing costs. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > It's roughly 6x cheaper here compared to what you are paying. > > - Jos

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Well yeah, about 10 or 15% less… but they come lower in the bits/mhz/$ calc From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 1:23 PM To: "af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but GPS sync is only going to work if all the 11ghz links are Mimosa (it also makes the B11 even more spectrally inefficient, since you're limited to using a fixed ratio). But my point was that if you want to use an inefficient radio to lock up spectrum, licensing the channels both directions

Re: [AFMUG] Ptp650/500 compatibility?

2017-05-26 Thread Steve Jones
That stinks On May 26, 2017 10:36 AM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > Unfortunately the Orthogon line sucks for RF backwards compatibility - > that's one of the only real downsides about them - so I doubt it. > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Steve Jones > wrote: > >> Is there a way to get a 500

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread chuck
Slightly more than B deck but no posts or pillars underneath. It gets a 3" cap of concrete poured over it. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage I'm totally doing that on my next house. -Or

Re: [AFMUG] OT Garage

2017-05-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I'm totally doing that on my next house. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Garage Got my floor/ceiling installed this morning. I do not understand why they did

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mike Hammett
They still operate with less efficiency than last-generation traditional radios. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Gino A. Villarini" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm with you. I would also rather license the biggest possible channel. -- Original Message -- From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/26/2017 1:09:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences the fact that you're having to license both channels both directions, certainly ha

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Jon Langeler
The GPS method makes more sense if your in a 'uniquie' area where there's no traditional links on the same tower Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On May 26, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > > the fact that you're having to license both channels both directions, > c

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
the fact that you're having to license both channels both directions, certainly has the potential to cause problems trying to coordinate around your own stuff, Would be in-correct, due to the fact that B11's will GPS Sync and allow for Freq Reuse with other B11's. I also beg t

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's roughly 6x cheaper here compared to what you are paying. - Josh On May 26, 2017 12:07 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" wrote: > Buying cheap is buying twice (and mounting). Dont know what your license > cost is. In Germany it would be 6kEuro for 56MHz x 2 V+H for 10 years. > Looking at cheap lastgen

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Buying cheap is buying twice (and mounting). Dont know what your license cost is. In Germany it would be 6kEuro for 56MHz x 2 V+H for 10 years. Looking at cheap lastgen licensed gear like e.g. SIAE Alfo+ the difference is not that much. Blocking frequency does only make sense where regulations

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I really don't see it as being an issue with the AF11. With Mimosas, the fact that you're having to license both channels both directions, certainly has the potential to cause problems trying to coordinate around your own stuff, and that's not really going to be particularly useful as far as

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Mark, I can see your point in Mimosa units, but AF11x units do no operate the same way From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 12:07 PM To: "af@

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
Huh? Aren't these licensed and coordinated? On May 26, 2017 10:33 AM, "Mark Radabaugh" wrote: > We have more problems finding clear channels due to our own links. Being > efficient up front is cheaper in the long run IMHO. Running dual pol > 80Ghz channels in scare 11Ghz spectrum is not reall

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh
We have more problems finding clear channels due to our own links. Being efficient up front is cheaper in the long run IMHO. Running dual pol 80Ghz channels in scare 11Ghz spectrum is not really a good plan. Mark > On May 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > > But, if you

Re: [AFMUG] August 21,2017 eclipse.

2017-05-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
Old wives tale in certain parts of Mexico... On May 26, 2017 9:12 AM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > All I can say to that is What? > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> don't forget to attach a safety pin to bottom of your shirt so if you are >> pregnant the baby does

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
But, if you are going to need the spectrum over time, it's an inexpensive way to lock it up. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On May 26, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > The lack of spectrum efficienc

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Stefan Englhardt
And as licensed spectrum has to be payed they are not cheap overall. On Fri, 26 May 2017 16:07:38 + Mark Radabaugh wrote: The lack of spectrum efficiency with the licensed bands is my biggest beef with the inexpensive licensed links on the market by Ubiquiti and Mimosa. Yes they transfe

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Experiences

2017-05-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh
The lack of spectrum efficiency with the licensed bands is my biggest beef with the inexpensive licensed links on the market by Ubiquiti and Mimosa. Yes they transfer a lot of data, but they do it by using very large amounts of scarce spectrum in both H&V channels. Mark > On May 26, 2017, a

Re: [AFMUG] Ptp650/500 compatibility?

2017-05-26 Thread Colin Stanners
Unfortunately the Orthogon line sucks for RF backwards compatibility - that's one of the only real downsides about them - so I doubt it. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > Is there a way to get a 500 to link with a 650 for a migration? >

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