Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

That's all fine and good, but I pointed out that the contractor tied their heliax to our conduit all the way up. That was about the dumbest possible thing they could've done. There's cable hanger bars that are about 3 feet wide and we're all the way to one side with our conduit. That's just fuc

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

The problem with this attitude to the fix, you as the WISP are now an unintentional radiator interfering with a licensed service. This will get you a visit from the FCC and you will be at fault no matter what. Because you have equipment that is unintentionally radiating in licensed spectrum, bas

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

That's what she said Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > Normally size is not a good determinate for quality. It just limits the input > power. There are some good sub 50 watt out there. If you use those you should > at least use a preselector. Really,

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Normally size is not a good determinate for quality. It just limits the input power. There are some good sub 50 watt out there. If you use those you should at least use a preselector. Really, if you are colocated at all you should. On Wed, Jun 7, 2017, 7:51 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Be the hero

Re: [AFMUG] OT: hanging out in salt lake

I've had em both. Spent a lot of time in Salt Lake thanks to Mr. Mccown! ;) - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: hanging out in salt lake If I could only have one meal in SLC it would be R

Re: [AFMUG] OT: hanging out in salt lake

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: hanging out in salt lake

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[AFMUG] OT: hanging out in salt lake

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Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Be the hero dude...fix it and move on.. On Jun 7, 2017 6:42 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Helical resonator duplexers can be almost as good as quarter wave > duplexers and much smaller. > > *From:* George Skorup > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 07, 2017 5:56 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Helical resonator duplexers can be almost as good as quarter wave duplexers and much smaller. From: George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 5:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz We have a local school district co-located with us on a water tow

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

We have a local school district co-located with us on a water tower and they're complaining about noise on their input. I pretty much told them they're SOL until we need to add or replace cables since they're all in an 1-1/4" PVC. So we'll have to run temp cables up, rip all the cables out of t

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Or they used RG8 still a Heliax guy... shoot me On Jun 7, 2017 4:55 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > I don't think so. I am assuming they probably didn't install some > connectors correctly. Unless they are using some extremely crappy gear the > RF portions of all half decent repeaters are shie

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

If I had a VHF repeater with a high gain omni and a very low noise pre-amp, I would hate to have any digital equipment on the same hill. But those years have long since passed. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 4:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

I don't think so. I am assuming they probably didn't install some connectors correctly. Unless they are using some extremely crappy gear the RF portions of all half decent repeaters are shielded very well. Unless they modified the repeater leaving some shielding off the connectors are the most like

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Lewis. You are assuming the VHF gear was properly installed...few folks do right first time... someones laziness or lack of knowledge is another's opportunity to make some cash On Jun 7, 2017 4:41 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Has anyone checked their connectors/connections between all RF points

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Has anyone checked their connectors/connections between all RF points? Antenna to cable, cable to duplexer, duplexer TX/RX to repeater. Most of the time I have seen Two Way equipment either be interfered with or interfere with someone else it is a connector issue. The only other case I have seen i

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Prefix Withdraw

Yeah, it usually comes right back up. On Wednesday, June 7, 2017, Paul Stewart wrote: > Unfortunately pretty common at times …. You shouldn’t see it disappear for > long periods though normally …. Nature of the Internet backbone though ;) > > On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Jason McKemie com > > wr

Re: [AFMUG] PCN Monitoring

That's for PCN monitoring of both polarities on a PTP path, or treating each polarity as its own path (as the FCC does)? On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 1:02 PM, George Skorup wrote: > The last quote I got from Liz for her frequency protection service was > $50/path/year, $500 minimum. That is very reaso

Re: [AFMUG] Jirous 90cm 11 GHz dishes in stock anywhere?

Quick update, the two US vendors that have stock of these (and the AF11FX adapters) are currently Doubleradius and Brink. Out of stock with all others. On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Looking to buy two, and the AF11FX adapters. Out of stock at Baltic > Networks and Streakwa

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Prefix Withdraw

Unfortunately pretty common at times …. You shouldn’t see it disappear for long periods though normally …. Nature of the Internet backbone though ;) > On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > I think that is it, yes. Thanks. > > On Wednesday, June 7, 2017, Paul Stewart

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Prefix Withdraw

I think that is it, yes. Thanks. On Wednesday, June 7, 2017, Paul Stewart wrote: > You mean your prefixes have disappeared somewhere in those countries for a > period of time? If so, yeah pretty normal with backbone shifts, upgrades, > outages etc etc > > Paul > > > On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:20 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Prefix Withdraw

You mean your prefixes have disappeared somewhere in those countries for a period of time? If so, yeah pretty normal with backbone shifts, upgrades, outages etc etc Paul > On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > In the past couple of weeks I've seen 3 prefix withdraws per BGP

[AFMUG] BGP Prefix Withdraw

In the past couple of weeks I've seen 3 prefix withdraws per BGPmon, 2 in Brazil and one in Italy. Is this normal behavior?

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

The problem is the permeability of air is very low compared to a metallic core. It would help a bit. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 12:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz Could you not put a couple tur

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Could you not put a couple turns on the cat5's at both ends to choke it? On 6/7/2017 9:31 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: You put ferrite close to the source of the noise, so close to the radios and if that does not do it, close to any switch or router on the other end of the run. Clamps or rings w

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

A Mimosa B5 and B5c are the units currently having port "flapping issues". Carl Peterson wrote: Is this for C5s, A5s, or something else. We haven't had any cat5 issues with either. My techs would kill me if I told them they needed to use Cat6 on C5 installs. It is just a PITA to install the

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

Is this for C5s, A5s, or something else. We haven't had any cat5 issues with either. My techs would kill me if I told them they needed to use Cat6 on C5 installs. It is just a PITA to install the connectors. Not sure if Shireen has fixed it yet, but the spools in boxes for the cat6 also had an

Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

do l2tp ipsec setup I got that setup between my 2 networks. Tim -Original Message- From: "Gino A. Villarini" To: af@afmug.com Date: 06/07/17 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP Vpls?  From: Af on behalf of Stefan Englhardt Reply-To: "af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

Vpls? From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Stefan Englhardt mailto:s...@genias.net>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 12:58 AM To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nee

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

The fingertips, they do get a little raw untwisting the wires with the 23 Gauge. The trick we do is cut the wires at 45 degrees to put the insert on. After that, it's a piece of cake. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Wedne

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

We got ones like these: http://www.fair-rite.com/product/round-cable-snap-its-475164281/ We put one at the radio, and one at the surge suppressor at the bottom. Solved our problems immediately. bp On 6/7/2017 7:42 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Is the shield still good? If the foil corrodes it be

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

No, it's not very friendly when putting the plugs on for sure. ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I really hate CAT6 when it comes to terminating it. One would think CAT5e would be just fine. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Is the shield still good? If the foil corrodes it becomes a lot less conductive. You'd have to cut off a piece of cable and peel it apart to see. The foil turns from shiny to dull, and if you check resistance between shiny parts it's 0, but between the dull parts it'll be meg ohms. For fer

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

I agree Adam though Cat 6 is designed for greater immunity from cross talk between the pairs which I suppose will give it some extra overhead when alien cross talk is present. Here is what Mimosa says, "Most Ethernet problems we see are related to cabling. The 1000BaseT standard is far more se

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Back when we had this kind of problem, I got a bunch of torroids from Fair-Rite (http://www.fair-rite.com/). I got the snap-on variety that closely fit the OD of the cable we were using. I selected ones that would block up to 500 MHz (you can filter by frequency you want to block). bp On 6/

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

You put ferrite close to the source of the noise, so close to the radios and if that does not do it, close to any switch or router on the other end of the run. Clamps or rings will both work. I prefer clamps. -Original Message- From: Craig House Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:27 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

I really hate CAT6 when it comes to terminating it. One would think CAT5e would be just fine. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation Cat 5e and Cat6 are both intended to run GigE a

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

They are Mylar shielded cat5 cables If you mean in conduit though no they are not in conduit. If someone thinks the ferrite solution is worth a try what ferrite do you use. Clamps or rings? One end of the cable or both? If rings, how many loops of cable through them? Sent from my iPhon

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

Cat 5e and Cat6 are both intended to run GigE at 100 meters. Did they elaborate on why that would make a difference? I would question them on that before I start sending climbers up, but I'm an a**hole. -- Original Message -- From: "Jay Weekley" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 6/7/2017 10:

Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

Not on shorter runs, 50' or so. But we use Primus 23 gauge, Cat-6 on anything longer than that and we have run that to 300' or more successfully. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:24 AM To: af@afmug.co

[AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

We recently received a recommendation from Mimosa to replace our shielded Cat 5 with Cat6. We've been using Shireen lately and they have a Cat 6 product. What would you use? Has anyone had problems with using Cat 5 with Mimosa?

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

Are the cat5 runs shielded? We've seen 100 Mbps ethernet can radiate in the 140 MHz range. Shielding usually fixes it. bp On 6/6/2017 1:17 PM, Craig House wrote: We have equipment located on to Towers one is a water tower the other is a guyed110 foot tower. In both locations there are two wa

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

SFPs? :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Craig House" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 3:21:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz I'm afr

Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

You might find this article of interest. http://www.stubarea51.net/2015/10/16/10-gbps-of-layer-2-throughput-is-possible-using-mikrotiks-eoip-tunnel/ Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Optio