Re: [agi] FHI is shutting down

2024-04-24 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, Ben Goertzel wrote: It was fun to do AGI-12 with them at Oxford, those were excellent times ;) Yeah, AGI-12 was great! -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] FHI is shutting down

2024-04-24 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
When Nick Bostrom hired Anders Sandberg at FHI he should have made Anders the director and become a researcher, as Eliezer Yudkowsky is a researcher at MIRI with someone else as director. I understand this as a person who should not be an institutional director - my inevitable personality

[agi] Re: Sam Altman Seeks Trillions

2024-02-13 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Regarding: https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/openai-chief-looking-to-raise-trillions-to-reshape-semiconductor-sector-wsj/ar-BB1i0ExD The language skill of OpenAI, Google, and others is based on learning to predict continuations of sequences of language. Large numbers of people are conversing

[agi] Sam Altman Seeks Trillions

2024-02-09 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
At 76 years old I can afford to find the humor in this: https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/openai-chief-looking-to-raise-trillions-to-reshape-semiconductor-sector-wsj/ar-BB1i0ExD Looking forward to the Beneficial AGI Summit. -- Artificial General

Re: [agi] Why isn't this the obvious approach to "alignment"?

2024-01-22 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Hi James, The approach you describe is pretty much what I said in: https://arxiv.org/abs/1411.1373 Especially in Chapter 7. I always find your posts interesting. Bill On Mon, 22 Jan 2024, James Bowery wrote: Ever since AGI's formalization in AIXI it has been obvious how to align it:

Re: [agi] Link for AGI-22 youtube live stream?

2022-08-20 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
, Aug 20, 2022 at 11:59 AM Bill Hibbard via AGI wrote: I registered for AGI-22 on 23 July. Ben's Keynote about to start but I still haven't received a youtube link. Any help appreciated. -- Daniel Jue Cognami LLC 240-515-7802 www.cognami.ai Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see

[agi] Link for AGI-22 youtube live stream?

2022-08-20 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
I registered for AGI-22 on 23 July. Ben's Keynote about to start but I still haven't received a youtube link. Any help appreciated. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

[agi] NY Times article about Ben Goertzel's Desdemona

2022-08-05 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Nice work, Ben: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/05/technology/ai-sentient-google.html -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T13760714fc830b3a-M8285def5f7ea00283d6523cc Delivery options:

Re: [agi] Systemic Issues, Rays of Light

2022-06-21 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
The way to mitigate is AI transparency. But if you read recent statements from AI ethics "leaders" they are down playing transparency. The focus these days is bias and competition with China. Social control via AI and the Internet is a temptation that politicians will not be able to resist, or

Re: [agi] AGI Movie Screenplay

2021-10-25 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
We are automating labor because there are economic incentives to do that. But the most advanced AI work is being done by companies in the advertising business. Those companies use AI in large servers connected via the Internet to phones and other devices woven into the lives of billions of

Re: [agi] AGI Movie Screenplay

2021-10-23 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
I'd like to see a movie about a planet in a distant galaxy where the most advanced AI work is done by corporations in the advertising business. These corporations would have huge AI systems that connect to every inhabitant of the planet, perhaps via some sort of device that they carry. The AI

[agi] TGOHIFCB

2021-10-12 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~billh/g/tgohifcb.pdf -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T279bd9a10824c6bd-Mb6680040034dcdaf96b50a90 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

Re: [agi] Who want Sundar's job?

2021-06-27 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Sure, Google, NYT, Facebook, etc are wonderful examples of woke capitalism. Like we can trust them to control our access to information because they block Trump. The perfect parable of our times was "debunking" and banning the idea that Covid escaped from the Wuhan lab, and even accusing anyone

[agi] Who want Sundar's job?

2021-06-26 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Recent hit piece in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/21/technology/sundar-pichai-google.html I submitted this to the comments section of the piece: Someone wants Sundar's job and instigated this story. And the Times rejected my comment!

Re: [agi] Spammed With 16 YouTube Videos From the Computer History Museum "Honoring Raj Reddy"

2021-06-26 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Here on my Wisconsin farm got my own little bit of computer history: https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~billh/aberdeen/aberdeen.html Not slick, but the provenance is just the word of my departed father. On Sat, 26 Jun 2021, jabow...@gmail.com wrote: I never even heard of Raj Reddy before.  I decided

[agi] An Information Process Perspective on Our Times

2021-04-21 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
My latest rant: https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~billh/g/info_history.html -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T9beb1b7270b7dd5e-M0a18c2937bded64cc518 Delivery options:

[agi] using NNs to solve PDEs

2021-04-20 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Interesting article: https://www.quantamagazine.org/new-neural-networks-solve-hardest-equations-faster-than-ever-20210419/ Points to a couple arxiv papers: https://arxiv.org/abs/1910.03193 https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.08895 -- Artificial General

Re: [agi] Re: AGI Conference 2021?

2021-04-16 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
I think this is what he was looking for: http://agi-conf.org/2021/ On Fri, 16 Apr 2021, Brett N Martensen wrote: Try this: https://waset.org/artificial-general-intelligence-conference-in-june-2021-i n-tokyo Artificial General Intelligence List / AGI / see discussions + participants + delivery

Re: [agi] The emergence of the AGI

2021-01-09 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, mattmahone...@gmail.com wrote: Now can you explain to me briefly what consciousness is? Good point, I cannot. Except to say that consciousness is the way I think, and that AIXI doesn't think the way I think. -- Artificial General

Re: [agi] The emergence of the AGI

2021-01-09 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, ora...@gmail.com wrote: @Bill Hibbard It sounds like a very comfortable future, it would be very nice to take away from us the burden of everything related to the grueling daily chores From what I understand you are saying that artificial intelligence will be a tool and not

Re: [agi] The emergence of the AGI

2021-01-08 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021, ora...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 08, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Bill Hibbard wrote: AGI will present itself by all your Internet services speaking with you in your native language, with complete comprehension and, as far as you can tell, perfect knowledge

Re: [agi] The emergence of the AGI

2021-01-08 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
AGI will present itself by all your Internet services speaking with you in your native language, with complete comprehension and, as far as you can tell, perfect knowledge of the world. It will present itself by all your Internet services knowing what you want before you know what you want. It

Re: [agi] Preprint: "The Model-less Neuromimetic Chip and its Normalization of Neuroscience and Artificial Intelligence"

2020-12-24 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Hey Steve, I started computing in about 1967 so missed using electromechanical computer myself. But I have a piece of a WWII electromechanical computer: https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~billh/aberdeen/aberdeen.html On Thu, 24 Dec 2020, steve.richfi...@gmail.com wrote: This discussion has an

Re: [agi] AGI safety

2020-10-26 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Here's my proposal: https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~billh/g/human_freedom.html On Mon, 26 Oct 2020, immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: When AGI is invented, what should we do to stop the government from trying to withhold public use of the technology? If we don't run 10,000 AGIs at 100 times

Re: [agi] There is such a thing as a Free Lunch

2020-09-27 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Amen. I was definitely inspired by Hutter, but all my work utilized a stochastic, finite state model of computation. On Sun, 27 Sep 2020, mattmahone...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 10:32 PM TimTyler wrote: On 2020-09-22 12:45:PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > The no free lunch

Re: [agi] Uhm, Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Function?

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020, John Rose wrote: Miles Davis said that the gods don't punish people by not giving them what they want. The gods punish people, he said, by giving them what they want and then not giving them time. Cool, I hadn't heard that quote. Could just be that the gods punish people by

Re: [agi] Re: Uhm, Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Function?

2020-06-08 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Anyone on this list that has a good understanding of the human brain would not mention god or orbs. I guess JR is on the other side =D Can you hear the gods laughing? One of my favorite movies, Bedazzled with Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, ends with God laughing. When events upset me I try to

[agi] Re: More Data

2020-05-24 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Big News: https://blogs.microsoft.com/ai/openai-azure-supercomputer/ That blog includes a quote: "This is about being able to do a hundred exciting things in natural language processing at once and a hundred exciting things in computer vision, and when you start to see combinations of these

Re: [agi] Just like Kahneman's Systems 1 and 2

2020-04-18 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020, mattmahone...@gmail.com wrote: Philosophical arguments tend to boil down to disagreements over the meanings of words. Amen. My take away from studying philosophy is that in order for our language to express all the ideas we need to express, our language must be able to

Re: [agi] Re: [Singularity] Re: The singularity nobody is talking about.

2020-04-14 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Thanks for letting us know. In 1971 I programmed a PDP-8 (with 4K 12-bit words of memory, the PDP-8 could add two 12-bit integers in 3 microseconds) to run Conway's Game of Life and display it on a small CRT screen. Friends and I would get stoned and go to the lab to watch it. In 1992 I saw

Re: [agi] My state of mind.

2020-02-17 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Last week I was driving and listening to WORT, an independent radio station, when a song came on that went through me like a knife, a ghost from the past. I couldn't recall the title or the group for several days, but then it came to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uokp0aEiT-A A ballad of

Re: [agi] My state of mind.

2020-02-14 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
John, you've been doing a great job as moderator. The thing about the AGI list, as well as the AGI conferences and Ben Goertzel's other creations, is their openness. No one really knows how we will get to AGI, and openness avoids foreclosing good ideas that may not be fully developed. I vote for

Re: [agi] Against Legg's 2007 definition of intelligence

2019-11-09 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
> Philosophy is arguing about the meanings of words. For me, the great lesson of philosophy is that any language that is general enough to express all the ideas we need to express is able to express questions that do not have answers. For example, "Is there a god?" This may be related to the

Re: [agi] Human Compatible: Artificial Intelligence and the Problem of Control

2019-10-19 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
> Can you summarize your Paper's main points? Bullet points 1 - 3 under "The ideas of AGI2012 ...:" > What is the dope here for AGI safety / child care? https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Spocks-Baby-Child-Care/dp/1439189293 -- Artificial General Intelligence

[agi] Human Compatible: Artificial Intelligence and the Problem of Control

2019-10-19 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
I highly recommend Stuart Russell's new book, Human Compatible: Artificial Intelligence and the Problem of Control. This book effectively communicates the issues of AI safety and control to a general audience. I especially like this book because it vindicates the ideas of my forgotten AGI-12

[agi] location of AGI-20?

2019-10-14 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Can anyone please tell me the location of AGI-20? Dates too, if you know it. Thanks, Bill -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tb5af1e8e4f2c5ca7-M245cc76f444557b578c16b6a Delivery options:

Re: [agi] Starbucks or myrrh mode?

2019-05-31 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
On Fri, 31 May 2019, Costi Dumitrescu wrote: > Starbucks mode: > https://futureoflife.org/ai-principles/?cn-reloaded=1 I was critical of these AI Principles: http://hplusmagazine.com/2017/02/02/asilomar-ai-principles-include-transparency-purpose-means-advanced-ai-systems/ > Myrrh mode: >

Re: [agi] How do I leave the group?

2019-05-20 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
I have the opposite problem: how do I join this group? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf6cd9fbea2c00aa0-M51ae76fbec7ea94950621423 Delivery options:

Re: [agi] Yours truly, the world's brokest researcher, looks for a bit of credit

2019-03-15 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Hmmm ... one year the American Breeder Service billboard near here said, "AI has completely changed the cow." Might work that into a bar pick-up line. Sent from my IBM Pluggable Sequence Relay Calculator On Sat, 16 Mar 2019, Colin Hales wrote: > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:25 AM Mike Archbold

Re: [agi] Our ability to detect patterns might stem from the brain's desire to represent things in the simplest way possible

2019-03-06 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Sounds like Hutter's AIXI and Bayesian program learning. Sent from my IBM Pluggable Sequence Relay Calculator On Wed, 6 Mar 2019, keghnf...@gmail.com wrote: > Our ability to detect patterns might stem from the brain's desire to > represent things in the simplest way possible:  >

Re: [agi] What do you need a robot for?

2019-02-13 Thread Bill Hibbard via AGI
Me too. In one of my AI fictions a character says, "Wouldn't you love it if Mentifex turned out to be the first real AI." AGI has huge potential for humor. No offense intended, Arthur. Sent from my IBM Pluggable Sequence Relay Calculator On Wed, 13 Feb 2019, Arnold Müller wrote: > I kind of