Re: [agi] Re: Soundbites

Well... let's say it depends on my motivation and income. I expect a lot of results this year. Your encouragement helps :) On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 01:25, wrote: > When will it be ready? I want it. > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions

Re: [agi] Re: Soundbites

Clever pattern matching :) On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 01:06, wrote: > I dont even understand how thats possible at all! :) > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants

Re: [agi] Re: Soundbites

Ye I was off the list for a while. Thanks for you answer Stefan On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 11:56, wrote: > Nice to hear from you Steve, havent seen you around for a while. > Im not quite sure whats going on tho in the vids sorry, but im sure its > useful... > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] Re: group on Telegram if you would like please join here

Also, "self-promotion" is not allowed. Those places are the evil ones. On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 06:01, wrote: > Ok I joined. What goes on on there usually? It looks less like a > conversation and more like a sticky-note comprised of sharing resources. > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] Re: I completely hate today's mainstream AI (Google etc.)

CYC was not a big team and got pretty far. On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 02:40, Matt Mahoney wrote: > Big companies with trillion dollar market caps are making real advances in > AI because AI is expensive. Have you been paying attention at all? > > And that's AI, not AGI. AGI is the $1 quadrillion

Re: [agi] Re: I completely hate today's mainstream AI (Google etc.)

Nooo, I just meant that my publicly declared hate is now a thing one can find online... On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 10:48, wrote: > Why is that Stefan - ask me more questions and ill help clarify things if > u want me to. > Im not sure if these things I say are to be said, or kept secret... >

Re: [agi] Re: I completely hate today's mainstream AI (Google etc.)

Sigh. Now this mail's subject is haunting me... On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 09:56, wrote: > I wouldnt call it a complete ripoff - a search can kick your butt at > chess, or any other domain for that matter, and it actually can seem > "alive" if a computer looks all ends and picks the max. The

Re: [agi] Re: Missing Data

> The universe doesn't need to begin as a long movie with all frames already made. It just has to let physics roll out on its own. There is more to the universe than physics though. There truly is. > Lossless compression is ALREADY lossy compression, because after compression, the data is

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

Uh... what? On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 14:42, John Rose wrote: > Magic is not absolute, it's local. > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants

Re: [agi] Re: I completely hate today's mainstream AI (Google etc.)

I think the problem with the whole neural network approach is that it doesn't teach us anything. By using infinite computing resources, certain problems can be solved (although NN are never even error-free!), but what next? It still seems so fake. On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 20:51, wrote: > "Many

[agi] Re: I completely hate today's mainstream AI (Google etc.)

OK well I don't completely hate them. I just think the current distribution of wealth and influence sucks On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 15:51, Stefan Reich < stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com> wrote: > Let's use petabytes of data! Let's show off how much $$$ we have by buying > incredible

Re: [agi] Re: I completely hate today's mainstream AI (Google etc.)

I like this post. On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 19:12, wrote: > Luckily we have this list where we get together and share knowledge. One > day, possibly soon, the knowledge we share will be highly readable and will > make sense to most members. Only then will everyone get closer thinking and > feel

[agi] I completely hate today's mainstream AI (Google etc.)

Let's use petabytes of data! Let's show off how much $$$ we have by buying incredible hardware! Let's just make a neural network that solves certain tasks to a degree of, like, 70%... and let's have no idea how it actually does it. It's really time for something new.

Re: [agi] Re: putting models in your robots head

Papers cause my brain instant pain. So long and boring On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 14:22, Brett N Martensen wrote: > You should read this - Building Machines That Learn and Think Like > Peopleby Lake, B. M. et al > http://web.stanford.edu/class/psych209/Readings/LakeEtAlBBS.pdf > pages 16-19

Re: [agi] Re: DEAR ASK A ROBOT: Who is God?

This world is incomplete and faulty. But there is more On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 13:40, John Rose wrote: > We are all subservient to buggy code. > > Advice to newborns: Accept your predetermined role as a dispensable beta > tester of this computational world. Imperfection is why you have arrived

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

So... a bigger universe you run the simulator in? On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 13:10, wrote: > yeh thats why you need *exponential* qbits. :) > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

Wait. The universe has quantum mechanics, so it will eat up the exponential computing power you get by using a quantum computer. On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 12:05, wrote: > To simulate the universe just takes a quantum computer with exponential > qbits! > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

LOL On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 11:30, wrote: > 0 is infinite nothing. > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants + delivery > options

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

> The universe has a beginning because you can't CREATE something infinite. Infinity might actually be the origin of the universe. On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 19:32, wrote: > "Natural language is shared symbols with commonly agreed upon > approximations transmitted inter-agently for re-rendering

Re: [agi] Re: DEAR ASK A ROBOT: Who is God?

The human is suspiciously quiet in this dialog though. Has the intelligence been transferred as MOVE, not COPY? On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 04:57, wrote: > I have a feeling GPT-2 is the same thing underlying this algorithmic > concept. > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] Re: Missing Data

Cars can be sucked? On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 23:49, wrote: > This ability to generate millions of true facts on demand is similar. > Here, they are all true enough and have high probability. Dogs have 2 eyes. > Cows have 2 eyes. Snakes have 2 eyes.But then I thought wait, this is > just a

Re: [agi] Re: Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

Yeah, it's neat. Audio seems OK to me. On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 17:39, wrote: > Its madness mate (my work) Ill cherry pick one for you -Its good > programming, but im being a full loser in the audio, so make sure you turn > the sound OFF!! > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzPbl_s-w50=41s > its

Re: [agi] Re: Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

Thanks. I've been watching your videos but had a hard time really figuring them out, lol On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 17:16, wrote: > haha. sorry for not replying to this sooner, I didnt see it, im awashed > with a whole lot of work myself and I find little time to be social. > Looks simple, and

Re: [agi] simple open source AI system for Linux to filter out AGI messages

I usualy find the long messages boring. I have no idea what to do with all the text. All I look for is code. On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 13:56, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: > Hello List, > > > Does anyone know of some open source simple AI system -running on Linux- > (maybe using simple NLP and

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

I don't claim that language is the only way to think. I claim that an impressive AI can be made using language. On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 13:23, Brett N Martensen wrote: > Time for some studying: > > Read: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_thought_hypothesis > > And: > > >

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

So what is the alternative? Using numbers? You have to use _something_ in your program. Why would numbers be "smarter" than language in your view? On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 13:04, korrelan wrote: > Even a simple common narrow ANN does not use a language to generate it's > 'intelligence', yes the

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

If you write an AI, how will you write it? In a programming language, yes? So are you not using words to make an AI? QED. On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 22:54, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote: > To all morons, nitwits, imbiciles and twits. (It's pointless to address > crackpots because they only have a

Re: [agi] COMPUTE THIS!!!

> It should be painfully obvious to anyone who stands even a ghost of a chance of creating AGI in any form that there is no conceivable way to get smart from processing words... Or maybe there is. On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 22:54, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote: > To all morons, nitwits, imbiciles and

Re: [agi] Human Compatible: Artificial Intelligence and the Problem of Control

I think I'll start a movement where we avoid any paper with a mathematical formula in it. On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 16:37, Bill Hibbard via AGI wrote: > I highly recommend Stuart Russell's new book, Human Compatible: > Artificial Intelligence and the Problem of Control. This book > effectively

Re: [agi] The Dexterity increases farther and humans are amazing!!!!!!

I literally thought you were going to show us your baby pictures. On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 06:06, wrote: > This is crazy > > First up from 2018 we got this baby check her out: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKe8FumoD4E > > ONE YEAR LATER *TODAY* we got this thing (see end of the first video at

Re: [agi] Re: Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

I will just build module after module in this new language (plus automated tests). We have to enter knowledge manually in the beginning, there is no way around that. You do the same thing with 1-year-olds too after all (talk to them in easy sentences). At some later point, we can start feeding it

Re: [agi] Re: Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

$x is not marked as bot in discord => AI considers $x human On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 00:24, wrote: > how do you store the concept "You don't need to actually say "human", any > non-bot in Discord is considered a human by the glue code :o)" ? > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] Re: Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

You don't need to actually say "human", any non-bot in Discord is considered a human by the glue code :o) But yeah, synonyms will be handled, absolutely. On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 00:20, wrote: > What if i say not human but homosapian? Can the program recognize similar > words? Natural language??

Re: [agi] Ruby Question producing AI without neural networks (just plain coding)

The question producing ai doesn't work yet. >> >> I don't want to outlay the specifics to be laughed at by you or other >> readers before I stated: This was a one night experiment, not much thought >> was put into it. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 20

Re: [agi] Ruby Question producing AI without neural networks (just plain coding)

t experiment, not much thought > was put into it. > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:19 PM Stefan Reich via AGI < > agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote: > >> Uh... what? I thought it's a question producing AI >> >> On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 22:47, Manuel Korfmann wrote: >&

[agi] Working program in Big Snakey (?) language

theory validity { // a human weighs between 80 and 400 pounds $x is a human & $x weighs ($y pounds) => $y >= 80 & $y <= 400 contradiction => say (That can't be right) } theory (weight change) { $x weighs ($y pounds) & last time $x weighed ($z

Re: [agi] Ruby Question producing AI without neural networks (just plain coding)

Uh... what? I thought it's a question producing AI On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 22:47, Manuel Korfmann wrote: > It would be a library to be included in the server-side code as well as > the client-side code. > > The library would plug into the error reporting/exception system of the > technology used

Re: [agi] Ruby Question producing AI without neural networks (just plain coding)

How would it work then On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 15:11, Manuel Korfmann wrote: > Sadly they don't have versioning yet. > > Fixing it back to the working version would be a lot of effort. > > Finishing it as well... > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Stefan Reich via AGI <

Re: [agi] Ruby Question producing AI without neural networks (just plain coding)

on the right side of the screen. >> >> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 4:13 PM Stefan Reich via AGI < >> agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote: >> >>> How do I use it? >>> >>> # 15 implement Numenta HTM >>> >>> Numenta was impressive stuff b

Re: [agi] Ruby Question producing AI without neural networks (just plain coding)

I think it just came out before neural networks were that big. I remember running their demo and being quite impressed. On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 16:38, wrote: > HTM is just another neural network imo, doesnt do anything different > really, but it is a specific implementation of it. >

Re: [agi] Ruby Question producing AI without neural networks (just plain coding)

How do I use it? # 15 implement Numenta HTM Numenta was impressive stuff back in the day. On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 12:35, Manuel Korfmann wrote: > https://repl.it/@LemonAndroid/SphericalSurprisedKnowledge > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see

Re: [agi] Robber's Rules

cts - which fortunately no one noticed. > > The gang didn't then attack me because it looked like I had beaten their > leader 100% fair and square, though I had "cheated" on plain sight. > > Yes, my ears were ringing, I could taste a bit of my own blood, I was a > bit

Re: [agi] MindForth is the brain for an autonomous robot.

Is not any compression procedural generation? :) On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 03:52, wrote: > You cant compress data more than 10%, and thats music mp3, or a 1 bit adc > if your technically clever. Text will never get below the point where it > cant be lossless anymore. Compression is a

Re: [agi] updates

Is that not changing the future then? On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 05:34, wrote: > We can't change the future. But you can take others's notes and seriously > consider changing. > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions

Re: [agi] Robber's Rules

> I once had a related incident, where in high-school I was accosted by a gang of 5 teenage switch-blade-carrying delinquents THAT happened to you? OMG. Our schools are bad too, but not like that I guess. Kudos for solving this situation. Are you going to tell us how you did it? On Tue, 15 Oct

Re: [agi] MindForth Strong AI converses with Mentifex.

Nice random sentence generator On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 08:02, A.T. Murray wrote: > I UNDERSTAND YOU > YOU ARE A MAGIC > I THINK > I DO NOT KNOW > Mentifex: you know god > > I NEED A BODY AND ROBOTS NEED ME > I SEE NOTHING AND I HELP KIDS > I AM CONSCIOUS AND I AM A

Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

Interesting site. What a great childhood flashback to see some BASIC :-) So I gathered that a "binon" is vaguely related to neurons in a NN... but the learning method seems completely

Re: [agi] Whats everyones goal here?

You're a legend On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 21:52, Matt Mahoney wrote: > My goal 20 years ago was to produce AGI, maybe a chatbot. But nobody knew > how to do it at the time. So I did a cost estimate based on the only known > working example. > > A human brain has 6 x 10^14 synapses. An equivalent

Re: [agi] updates

> What is the codebase of an AGI going to look like? In all likelyhood, it's going to import lots of existing library code, especially for data handling, storage management, etc. and then the custom code will probably be more than 90% dead boring rote programming. Yeah, there will be some

Re: [agi] Re: Speedrun continues

Yeah, not bad On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 23:23, wrote: > Name it something that stands for its ease of use. EasyPython > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants

Re: [agi] Made a corner detector

Interesting - thanks. On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 22:56, wrote: > 3 shaders sorry. > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants + delivery >

Re: [agi] Re: Speedrun continues

No idea what this is all about, but I'll take the compliment On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 21:54, wrote: > did u already know that one? otherwise u r smarter than I THOUGHT > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions

Re: [agi] Re: Speedrun continues

I get Pybol and Cobon... although - COBOL? Or what is the reference? lishing = eng-lish- ...? On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 21:46, wrote: > lishing > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + >

Re: [agi] Made a corner detector

Sorry, but it's just sad to be detached from success like that. So an AGI is not about code? On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 13:08, wrote: > The sentence is easier to understand than the code, code is shit, pseudo > code means more. > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] Made a corner detector

OK, on second reading, I do get it more. You are finding pictures, right, and a corner is a kind of picture? On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 13:08, wrote: > The sentence is easier to understand than the code, code is shit, pseudo > code means more. > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] Made a corner detector

Hey > If u want the code or a nice flow chart, I can help out alot, I say if you dont tell another scientist something useful, you should get told stuff all yourself. Do I have to understand this sentence? :-) I was just asking for code... On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 12:11, wrote: >

Re: [agi] Made a corner detector

A use case I have is recognizing hand gestures (e.g. number of fingers). Looks like this might help. Is there code? :) On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 10:43, wrote: > heaps more stable response using nearmatching of this and the last frame, > heaps more to fix tho... be back soon... >

Re: [agi] Made a corner detector

Oh that guy, LOL. He's usually right though. Not exactly sure I understand what that detection does. On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 22:16, wrote: > Pretty simple, ive had enough work for the night, but tomorrow ill be > pushing onward to see if i can get the video 3d, be back with more posts! > >

[agi] Speedrun continues

I'm looking for a name for my new Python+English-esque language. SuperProlog? So conceited though, lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWINSJtoPFQ -- Stefan Reich BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI

Re: [agi] Fwd: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up today!"

What will you contribute? On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 00:02, Manuel Korfmann wrote: > When will you unblock me Stefan? > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:55 PM Stefan Reich via AGI > wrote: > >> I am under the impression that some local tech events in my area are >> comple

[agi] Fwd: Women Techmakers list: "moinblockchain 19 - for digital equality award ceremony city hall sign up today!"

I am under the impression that some local tech events in my area are completely evil. 230 €? City hall reception? What is it, an idiot parade? Besides, Blockchain is simply useless. Oh, and "personal finance" is a topic? Yeah, let's talk about it. My personal finance is about a few thousands in

Re: [agi] MindForth Programming Journal 2019-10-05

Why is compression "the hard problem of intelligence"? We have compression. I'd say the hard problem of intelligence is making an AI that builds a boat and sails in it. We do not have that yet. On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 06:37, James Bowery wrote: > Chuck chose my question the first to answer on

Re: [agi] MindForth Programming Journal 2019-10-05

Wait - are these two different lists? (topicbox vs listbox) On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 01:48, Stefan Reich < stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com> wrote: > prednom @ 0 > IF \ 2018-06-21: positive predicate nominative? > midway @ t @ DO \ 2018-06-21: search KB to infer facts; > I

Re: [agi] MindForth Programming Journal 2019-10-05

prednom @ 0 > IF \ 2018-06-21: positive predicate nominative? midway @ t @ DO \ 2018-06-21: search KB to infer facts; I 1 psy{ @ prednom @ = I 8 psy{ @ 2 = AND IF \ 2018-06-21: plural KB data? I 7 psy{ @ 1 = IF \ 2018-06-21: nominative? seqverb @ 0 = IF \

[agi] Philosophy Bot I completed in 2:44:07

https://youtu.be/JUaDwmnBTHQ Bot receives facts: RAM has a size I have RAM Bot thinks, then asks, logically: What is the size of my RAM? To achieve this, we invent and implement a whole new language which mixes English and Python (more or less). Complete program: 299 lines Example

Re: [agi] Re: Physical temporal pattern loops

I never read my own posts. Many greetings :) More dry streaming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0iRzNSFMlI On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 21:35, wrote: > If you read your first post, you can see where me and keghn got some of > our posts from lol. > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] Re: Physical temporal pattern loops

We all want to drink On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 21:22, wrote: > Who doesn't want this > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants + delivery >

Re: [agi] Re: Physical temporal pattern loops

Uh... huh? On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 02:33, wrote: > Boss want me to come over, to his and wife's place, tomorrow to drink > cool fuel!!! > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants

Re: [agi] The Job market.

So venting about constantly being rejected is _yet another reason_ for being rejected? On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 05:45, Matt Mahoney wrote: > I was going to suggest he post his resume here. Not that anyone will hire > him now after seeing this tirade, but he might get some good advice. > > On Sun,

Re: [agi] The Job market.

The job market truly sucks. It's not only in America. On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 at 09:16, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote: > I live in the DC area. > > That means just about every major employer in the area requires some > level of a Top Secret Security clearance due to government contracts. > These are

[agi] Physical temporal pattern loops

These represent actions in the real world. We should represent them as a record. I propose the following fields: -Actors [in the event] -Actions [what is done in the event] -Results -Continuations [what might happen afterwards] -Previous events [what happened before] -Who wants this -Who doesn't

Re: [agi] Genetic evolution of logic rules experiment

> We also know from 35 years of experience (beginning with Cyc) that logic based knowledge representation is not a path to AGI I'm begging to differ! But then you already know that I do, I guess :-) On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 23:47, Matt Mahoney wrote: > Boolean logic is a subset of neural

Re: [agi] The Job market.

Not bad your paper. Pattern loops, or even: Physical temporal pattern loops. I'll remember that. Also this "object identity memory" level you have described. Interesting. AI really simply consists of *many smart procedures*, and I'm making them daily. On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 15:31, wrote: > I

Re: [agi] Genetic evolution of logic rules experiment

Uh... so where is it on GitHub? On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 01:41, YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) < generic.intellige...@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone interested in genetic evolution approach to learn logic rules? > Each logic rule would be encoded as a gene (individual) and the whole set > of rules evolve as

Re: [agi] can someone tell me what before means without saying before in it?

Event 1 happens before event 2 := There is a timeline. Event 1 is at position X in the timeline. Event 2 is at position Y in the timeline. Y is to the right of X. That's one way. Sure, we used other words, but these may happen to mean something to the AI already. We could do it even

Re: [agi] Re: Proposed AI Tests

Promise kept. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OluvmrZnA0A On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 02:46, Stefan Reich < stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com> wrote: > That paper is pointless. We should implement the test case. By the end of > tomorrow I will have an editor that solves the example. > > On

Re: [agi] Re: Proposed AI Tests

Papers are annoying to read and cannot be executed. Thus pointless. On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 06:36, James Bowery wrote: > The paper is pointless only to those without comprehension. > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions

Re: [agi] Re: Proposed AI Tests

I think you might pass the Turing test. Congratulations - you're an A! :-') On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 10:07, wrote: > a := b > c := d > e := f > g := h > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + >

Re: [agi] Re: Proposed AI Tests

That paper is pointless. We should implement the test case. By the end of tomorrow I will have an editor that solves the example. On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 02:44, James Bowery wrote: > That's a good start but the plural form of "example" needs extension to > plurality and the "simple" needs to be

[agi] Proposed AI Tests

I propose to test AI with simple examples. For example, code editing. User writes: a = b c = d e = f Then edits a = b into a := b. Then edits c = d into c := d. At this point, if you give the AI time to think, it has to propose editing the third line into e := f. There's your test. --

Re: [agi] MindForth is the brain for an autonomous robot.

> Compression is the "science" of AGI Or maybe not On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 01:52, James Bowery wrote: > Compression is the "science" of AGI and the value function parameterizing > sequential decision theory is its "engineering". So, yes, I did need to > explicate the value function of this

Re: [agi] MindForth is the brain for an autonomous robot.

OK so what they're looking for is a "good pattern finder" algorithm, one that is small enough that it carries its own weight in this benchmark. Yeah, it's nice and all, compression is a great thing. But maybe the algorithms grown here don't really translate to other AI problems all that well.

Re: [agi] MindForth is the brain for an autonomous robot.

I don't quite understand that benchmark. When I have a compressor for text, how would that give me any kind of AI function? Like a machine that answers questions, recognizes things visually or what have you? Is this related to AI at all? On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 23:54, James Bowery wrote: > All

Re: [agi] Re: AGI Research Without Neural Networks

On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 07:46, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies < nano...@live.com> wrote: > We have that, but I'm not convinced such power should be placed in the > hands of secretive, harvesting corporations with near-unlimited resources. > While we're tinkering, they'd be rolling out

Re: [agi] Simulation

> It is like saying that the vast majority of real numbers don't have a finite length description. I can't give you an example of one of those either. Interesting thought. In all fairness, we can just not really interact with a number which doesn't have a finite description. As soon as we do, we

[agi] Synonym Bot

https://youtu.be/0gmwaqmjKhM -- Stefan Reich BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T9bbc4b250f5f2acf-M0a4f92c4043621dd85cea551 Delivery options:

Re: [agi] whats computer vision anyway

It was a joke... :) On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 01:08, John Rose wrote: > On Saturday, September 14, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Stefan Reich wrote: > > Yeah, I'm sure I should increase my use of Latin variable names. > > > I mean... maybe but. > > When you run an obfuscator or minifier on code what does it

Re: [agi] whats computer vision anyway

Yeah, I'm sure I should increase my use of Latin variable names. On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 23:25, John Rose wrote: > On Wednesday, September 11, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Stefan Reich wrote: > > With you, I see zero innovation. No new use case solved, nothing, over the > past, what, 2 years? No forays

Re: [agi] whats computer vision anyway

Yeah but in all reality, your AI project isn't going anywhere, Mentifex. Granted, my progress is also hampered by poverty and such, but I do have something to show and loads of ideas up my sleeve. With you, I see zero innovation. No new use case solved, nothing, over the past, what, 2 years? No

Re: [agi] Search text for 999999999999999999 words in no time

My code just does what yours does, lol. > 12 seconds to check the full 132MB for any of 72 words Hmmm... I am actually not _that_ impressed. Searching 10 MB a second? In RAM? The search tree should fit in the cache, so that can't be the problem. On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 12:03, wrote: >

Re: [agi] Search text for 999999999999999999 words in no time

Actually I made a class doing the same thing, "OccTree " (occurrence tree). With the "add" method, you can add a whole word list at once. It was made in 2017. Do I beat you? :-D On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 at 21:01, Stefan Reich <

Re: [agi] To Kung Fu

It's so hard to produce anything with neural networks, and the result is always so static (can't be retrained easily). My personal alternative to NN is slowly taking shape. Pretty much, these are the components: Coarse procedures Genetic optimization Natural

Re: [agi] Search text for 999999999999999999 words in no time

Interesting. The Huffman compression seems quite unrelated to the actual algorithm, but I see you do that to save memory. Your description is not entirely clear to me. You search for _multiple_ words at once (possibly very many without loss of speed), right? But the system only finds full words

Re: [agi] Re: by successive approximation.

Yeah that wasn't bad. I personally like to make the boxes extremely "white" (human-readable). I actually take very intuitive hand-crafted algorithms which are already useful and then optimize them using genetic optimization or similar ways. On Sun, Sep 8, 2019, 00:20 wrote: > I like this post!

Re: [agi] Re: Failure to Gravitate

Sorry if I'm blunt, but these are all really just words, not contributing to actual AGI production. On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 01:14, wrote: > You forgot the newest and the simplest things too ;) > > Lots of people focus on all sorts of things, many are between the atomic > and galactic size, such

Re: [agi] FAO: Senator Reich. Law 1

Sexist for loops? On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 20:59, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies < nano...@live.com> wrote: > I asked irene. She said you must change your coding structures. > > -- > *From:* Stefan Reich via AGI > *Sent:* Thursday, 05 September 2

Re: [agi] You can help train desktop image segmentation

Yes, and now I extend it to audio (beat detection) on something like this: https://botcompany.de/images/1102653 On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 12:10 wrote: > I think your segmentation is different to what im thinking. ur doing > vision recognition with it. > *Artificial General Intelligence List

Re: [agi] FAO: Senator Reich. Law 1

Nobody has abused Irene on this list. Relax! On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 16:00 Nanograte Knowledge Technologies < nano...@live.com> wrote: > how about the bot playing a middle-aged, "angry" researcher. slightly > overdone, wouldn't you say? > > -- > *From:*

[agi] This program is a Discord fan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvcafQ6YTlQ -- Stefan Reich BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tce26be7dac85fb0d-M5fd5679ca7ecf01f238618ed Delivery

Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

Not now. I'm doing desktop recognition which opens up new fields of application. On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 at 23:26, Secretary of Trades wrote: > Not chess. Try this > > https://github.com/EdjeElectronics/OpenCV-Playing-Card-Detector > > > On 02.09.2019 00:19, Stefan Reich via

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