Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-14 Thread Secretary of Trades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZlggz618qo :) On 14.08.2019 10:00, Mohammadreza Alidoust wrote: I don't think so. Indians have a great history of engineering. By the way, for your information I am Persian and I like and respect Indians and other ethnic groups. I think you should improve

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-14 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
I agree 100% with you. rouncer81 is just stirring up racial trouble. Such talk should be banned from here. I do not wish to be associated with such talk. MODS? From: Mohammadreza Alidoust Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2019 09:00 To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] My paper

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-14 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
I don't think so. Indians have a great history of engineering. By the way, for your information I am Persian and I like and respect Indians and other ethnic groups. I think you should improve your social skills, study more about history and also focus more on the topic of the group. Such speech

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-14 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Ha ha ha On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 11:56 AM wrote: > Mohammud is a monkey. =CD > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + > participants + delivery >

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-14 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
I don't think that the problem is just as simple as those you mentioned. However they might seem big, other big problems should be solved too. On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 8:00 PM Secretary of Trades wrote: > Metabolism is the primary biological process. But reading and writing > chemical memories is

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-14 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Dear Jim Bromer, Thank you. I would be glad to describe the model if you ask. Also, I would be glad to see your works and results. Best wishes, Mohammadreza Alidoust On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 6:26 AM Jim Bromer wrote: > I think that 'undefined' refers to the resultant state of an algorithm >

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-11 Thread Secretary of Trades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vvvPZd6_D8 On 04.08.2019 10:27, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On 8/4/19 9:25 AM, rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: Mohammud is a monkey. =CD In France, where I live, such hate speech is illegal and get you a huge fine. -- Basile Starynkevitch (92340 Bourg La

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-05 Thread gc_chdch
Hey folks, this is YKY and I'm in the ShenZhen conference now.  Would love to meet Mohammadreza and other attendants for discussions.  I'm the bald Chinese guy with the bicycle helmet :)) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-05 Thread Secretary of Trades
☐ He's not a robot. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/05/artificial-intelligence-created-these-bizarre-faces-and-monkey-neurons-love-them On 05.08.2019 03:55, Matt Mahoney wrote: I don't like government censorship, but I am all in

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-05 Thread rouncer81
90% of the indians live in the mud,  the rest of them had their house built by europeans -   and u ALL know its true. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf27122c71ce3b240-M1523bbe022a820ca397e2414

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-04 Thread Matt Mahoney
I don't like government censorship, but I am all in favor of list administrators booting people who have nothing better to contribute than posting childish insults. On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 3:28 AM Basile Starynkevitch wrote: > > On 8/4/19 9:25 AM, rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Mohammud is a

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-04 Thread Secretary of Trades
Humor for the State of Calm https://www.kurzweilai.net/google-announces-cognitive-autoheuristic-distributed-intelligence-entity-update On 03.08.2019 21:41, Matt Mahoney wrote: My paper on the cost of AI is published as a book chapter in "Philosophy of Mind: Contemporary Perspectives" in 2017.

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-04 Thread Secretary of Trades
How about love speech? On 04.08.2019 10:27, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On 8/4/19 9:25 AM, rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: Mohammud is a monkey. =CD In France, where I live, such hate speech is illegal and get you a huge fine. -- Basile Starynkevitch (92340 Bourg La Reine, France)

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-04 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 8/4/19 9:25 AM, rounce...@hotmail.com wrote: Mohammud is a monkey. =CD In France, where I live, such hate speech is illegal and get you a huge fine. *Artificial General Intelligence List * / AGI / see discussions

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-04 Thread rouncer81
Mohammud is a monkey. =CD -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf27122c71ce3b240-M515cda17e10583c9534d0d2e Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-03 Thread Secretary of Trades
How long is "long term memory"? On 03.08.2019 21:41, Matt Mahoney wrote: My paper on the cost of AI is published as a book chapter in "Philosophy of Mind: Contemporary Perspectives" in 2017. My main contribution is using data compression to estimate the information content of our DNA in

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-03 Thread Secretary of Trades
Metabolism is the primary biological process. But reading and writing chemical memories is not primary. While reading and writing electrical memories is primary it's also critical in distinguishing between intelligent actions and automated processes. To interrupt a primary process with

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-02 Thread Jim Bromer
I think that 'undefined' refers to the resultant state of an algorithm (like a mathematical computation) where the result is undefined. For example, if the algorithm is not finished running, the result would be undefined. In the case where a mathematical algorithm would need to be applied to more

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-02 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Vision and hearing... And? On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 11:58 PM Secretary of Trades < costi.dumitre...@gmx.com> wrote: > Vision and hearing. > > > On 02.08.2019 04:12, Mohammadreza Alidoust wrote: > > Thank you. I really enjoy and appreciate your comments. > > > > There is no universal problem

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-02 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Thank you. "The best that individuals can do is make small steps towards a solution." I like this !! Good Luck Best regards, Mohammadreza Alidoust On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:25 AM Matt Mahoney wrote: > The obvious application of AGI is automating $80 trillion per year that > we have to pay

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-02 Thread Secretary of Trades
Matt do another paper and find a way to refer work that goes without publishing papers and books, such as the Senator's. On 02.08.2019 05:53, Matt Mahoney wrote: The obvious application of AGI is automating $80 trillion per year that we have to pay people for work that machines aren't smart

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-02 Thread Secretary of Trades
Vision and hearing. On 02.08.2019 04:12, Mohammadreza Alidoust wrote: Thank you. I really enjoy and appreciate your comments. There is no universal problem solver. So for the purpose of building a real AGI, how many problems should our model be able to solve? How big is our problem space?

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-01 Thread Matt Mahoney
The obvious application of AGI is automating $80 trillion per year that we have to pay people for work that machines aren't smart enough to do. That means solving hard problems in language, vision, robotics, art, and modeling human behavior. I listed the requirements in more detail in my paper.

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-01 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Thank you. I really enjoy and appreciate your comments. There is no universal problem solver. So for the purpose of building a real AGI, how many problems should our model be able to solve? How big is our problem space? On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 8:22 AM Matt Mahoney wrote: > The human brain cannot

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-01 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Thank you for your email. You know, it is not about time management and its worth. I am here to learn and I appreciate your comments and criticism. What approach would you suggest that will never lead to undefined? On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 3:25 PM Jim Bromer wrote: > Mohammadreza said, "I think

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-08-01 Thread Jim Bromer
Mohammadreza said, "I think "intelligence" means optimization. So, if it is true, how can we tell an AGI agent to act optimally? e.g. with IF-THEN rules? definitely Not! These rules may lead to unforeseen states." If-Then rules are not the only application of discrete reasoning that are possible.

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Matt Mahoney
The human brain cannot solve every problem. There is no requirement for AGI to do so either. Hutter and Legg proved that there is no such thing as a universal problem solver or predictor. It feels like you could solve any problem given enough effort, but that is an illusion. In reality you can't

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Matt Mahoney
Consider your audience. Math is appropriate for a peer reviewed scientific paper. Probably not for a magazine. On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 7:46 PM Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: > Let's TURN THIS INTO TWITTER! > > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 01:44, Stefan Reich < > stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com>

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
I may not call the model "a reinforcement learning neural network", because nothing is going to be reinforced there. I would rather call it "model based decision making" where the model of the world will be incrementally completed and more accurate, which then helps in better decision making. The

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Thank you. Sure, visualizations help in better understanding. However I do not believe that the model contains difficult mathematics. BSc Students of control engineering in their third or fourth year, study state-space representation in their Modern Control Engineering course. Anyway, I think AGI

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
There are better ways than mathematical formulae On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 01:43, Stefan Reich < stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com> wrote: > I agree with Berick and Manuel > > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 01:40, Stefan Reich < > stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Wow that's a

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
Wow that's a smart answer On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 23:30, Manuel Korfmann wrote: > > > On 31. Jul 2019, at 23:03, Matt Mahoney wrote: > > Not understanding the math is the reader's problem. > > > > Starving is the starving person's problem. > *Artificial General Intelligence List

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2019-07-31 Thread Manuel Korfmann
> On 31. Jul 2019, at 23:46, Berick Cook wrote: > > "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - > Albert Einstein > > That's not to say that the math should be omitted. Just that it shouldn't be > relied upon to convey the idea(s) to a broad audience. >

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Berick Cook
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein That's not to say that the math should be omitted. Just that it shouldn't be relied upon to convey the idea(s) to a broad audience. On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1:29 PM Manuel Korfmann wrote: > > > On 31. Jul

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Manuel Korfmann
> On 31. Jul 2019, at 23:03, Matt Mahoney wrote: > > Not understanding the math is the reader's problem. Starving is the starving person's problem. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Matt Mahoney
Not understanding the math is the reader's problem. It is necessary to describe the theory and the experiments and shouldn't be omitted. The paper describes 3 phases of training a reinforcement learning neural network. The first phase is experimenting with random actions. The next two phases

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Manuel Korfmann
I guess he meant: It’s difficult to understand all these mathematical equations. Visualizations are better at transporting ideas in a way that almost everyone can understand easily. > On 31. Jul 2019, at 13:46, Mohammadreza Alidoust > wrote: > > Thank you for reading my paper. I wish you

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Thank you for reading my paper. I wish you success too. Could you please explain more about the readership? I am afraid I did not get the point. Best regards, Mohammadreza Alidoust On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 2:14 PM Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: > If someone paid me to go, I'd go... :-) > > >

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-31 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Thank you for the information. Best regards, Mohammadreza Alidoust On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 6:24 AM Brett N Martensen wrote: > All the papers can be found at: http://agi-conf.org/2019/schedule/ > > Here is yours: > http://agi-conf.org/2019/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/paper_21.pdf > > > *Artificial

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-30 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
If someone paid me to go, I'd go... :-) > http://agi-conf.org/2019/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/paper_21.pdf I like the stages you define in your paper (infancy, decision making, expert). Sounds reasonable. I pretty much erased mathematical formulas from my brain though, even though I have

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-29 Thread Brett N Martensen
All the papers can be found at: http://agi-conf.org/2019/schedule/ Here is yours: http://agi-conf.org/2019/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/paper_21.pdf -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-29 Thread Mohammadreza Alidoust
Dear Stefan Reich, Thank you. I do not know whether submitting my paper before official publication by Springer is against their copyrights or not. I am not sure about their rules. I will ask the authorities when I arrived Shenzhen and inform you. However I recommend not to miss the AGI-19.

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-28 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
Anything to see without travelling to Shenzhen? On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 at 03:35, wrote: > Dear members, > I am Mohammadreza Alidoust, and my paper "AGI Brain: A learning and > decision making framework for artificial general intelligence systems based > on modern control theory" is accepted for

Re: [agi] My paper in AGI-19

2019-07-28 Thread Costi Dumitrescu
"Subscribers", we only bathe on occasion. On 28.07.2019 04:34, class.alido...@gmail.com wrote: Dear members, I am Mohammadreza Alidoust, and my paper "AGI Brain: A learning and decision making framework for artificial general intelligence systems based on modern control theory" is accepted for