Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-25 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, omd wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: No. New gameplay ideas are for when the core is working. It is not right now. The four most important offices are all empty. We do not have the resources to build new gameplay. I am

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-25 Thread Charles Walker
On 25 Aug 2013, at 02:01, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I just think we're having the wrong conversation. We should be talking about new gameplay ideas. No. New gameplay ideas are for when the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Sean Hunt
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand. My reports on Okinawa and Parties have never been late and neither of these aspects of the game are overly complicated, although they may be flawed in other ways. The problem we have is not

DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
Both this batch of proposals and the recent ones show that the cost of proposals is absolutely no barrier, therefore it serves no purpose other than a busywork hassle. The cost should either be a significant barrier, or no cost, current system is a pointless compromise.

DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: Transfer Zombie G. to Fool, ... The reason this promise was created on the tree and not given to Fool in the first place was that Promise possession is limited to players, but any entity can cash a promise on the tree (this was in case Fool ceased to be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Aug 2013 21:21, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Both this batch of proposals and the recent ones show that the cost of proposals is absolutely no barrier, therefore it serves no purpose other than a busywork hassle. The cost should either be a significant barrier, or no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Charles Walker wrote: On 24 Aug 2013 21:21, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Both this batch of proposals and the recent ones show that the cost of proposals is absolutely no barrier, therefore it serves no purpose other than a busywork hassle.  The cost

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Sean Hunt
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Should have been more specific: trivial avoidance is of course part of the issue. A past version was that the only way a proposal could be free was w/o objection (and common practice at the time was to object to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Both this batch of proposals and the recent ones show that the cost of proposals is absolutely no barrier, therefore it serves no purpose other than a busywork hassle. The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Aug 2013 21:40, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Both this batch of proposals and the recent ones show that the cost of proposals is absolutely no barrier,

DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: Transfer Zombie G. to Fool, amend its text to I perform the LEGAL actions specified by the casher in the cashing message. I create a promise identical to this one and transfer it to the casher., and set its expiry to the epoch. This suddenly made me

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: Transfer Zombie G. to Fool, amend its text to I perform the LEGAL actions specified by the casher in the cashing message. I create a promise identical to this one and transfer it to the casher., and set

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Aug 2013, at 21:18, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand. My reports on Okinawa and Parties have never been late and neither of these aspects of the game are overly complicated,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread Sean Hunt
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I just think we're having the wrong conversation. We should be talking about new gameplay ideas. No. New gameplay ideas are for when the core is working. It is not right now. The four most important offices are

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A major series of reforms.

2013-08-24 Thread omd
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: No. New gameplay ideas are for when the core is working. It is not right now. The four most important offices are all empty. We do not have the resources to build new gameplay. I am vaguely inclined to take a