DIS: Re: BUS: can we can't we can we can't we

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
I don't think it should apply to MAY, only CAN or SHALL. MAY should imply permissibility without possibility. CAN makes sense in general and SHALL makes sense because obligations should be possible. -Aris On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I submit this Proposal, AI-3, "C

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 12:52 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > I like this. Slight spelling fix, though: in the paragraph after the list of > protected actions, "ILLEGAL" is wrongly spelled "ILEGAL" Done. -Aris

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 1:18 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > " An asset or class of assets is private, rather than public, if it's > backing document is a contract." > > There should be no apostrophe in "it's". Sorry for spamming six > messages in a row, I should have put these all in one message. Probab

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2017-10-14 at 00:29 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > > A lot of feedback here. Much of it is typo corrections, but not all of > it. > >> Destroy each contract. [Just in case.] > "Contract" is not current

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I'd be happy to review the latest version, but I don't want to use the last > version because I won't know what has changed. Could you share your current > copy? Sure. -Aris --- Title: Contracts v4 Adoption index: 3.0

DIS: Re: BUS: A few cleanups

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > This is just a miscellaneous fix proposal: > > Proposal: High Power Cleanup (AI=3) > {{{ > Text in square brackets is not a substantive part of this proposal and is > ignored when it takes effect. > > Amend Rule 105, bullet 2 to read "When a ru

Re: DIS: PROTO: [Proposal] A Reward for Obedience

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:50 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > Title: A Reward for Obedience > Author: ATMunn > Co-Author(s): > AI: 1 > > Create a new power-1 rule titled "Badges of Honor" > { > Badges of Honor are an indestructible, player-owned asset. The Referee > is the recordkeepor for Badges of Hono

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A few cleanups

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> Amend Rule 1023 by appending "The same applies, mutatis mutandis, to for >> determining whether two points in time are within N months of each other, >> for N greater than or equal to 2." as a new paragraph in the fourth

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 03:30 Aris Merchant > wrote >> >> # 1 Cleanup & Miscellaneous >> # 1.1 Gamestate Cleanup >> >> Destroy each organization. > > > We used to have a rule that made t

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Deregulation

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Decided to put my money where my mouth is. > > Proposal: Deregulation (AI=3) > {{{ > Repeal Rule 2493 (Regulations). > Repeal Rule 2494 (The Regkeepor). > Amend Rule 2464 (Tournaments) to read as follows: > A Tournament is a sub-game of A

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7908-7921

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
> CoE: my proposal "Clarity Act" is not listed as being in the Proposal >> Pool, which it is because you did not distribute it. >> >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017, 23:50 Aris Merchant, < >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I hereby di

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3575 judged TRUE

2017-10-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:23 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I claim the reward of 1 shiny for this report. I pledge to transfer > all shinies I receive before my next deregistration to the first > non-Alexis person who pledges that they will use 90% of the shinies I > transfer em in accordance with the ins

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
A new contracts version is affixed. -Aris --- Title: Contracts v5 Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-author(s): o, G., ais523, Gaelan, 天火狐, CuddleBeam, V.J Rada, Trigon, Alexis, P.S.S. Lines beginning with hashmarks ("#") and comments in square brackets ("[]") have no effect on the behavior of

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 21:17 Aris Merchant > wrote >> >> No, there definitely is a problem with giving rule permission for >> people to define arbitrary things that could be paradoxical. Both >> organiza

DIS: Re: BUS: Safety Regulations

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
Darn, typo. I retract Safety Regulations. I submit the following proposal. -Aris --- Title: Safety Regulations v2 Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-author(s): Alexis Amend Rule 2493, "Regulations", by * Replacing every instance of the word "instrument" with the words "textual entity"; a

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7908-7921

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
Or you could just ratify the resolution of the election. That's even simpler. -Aris On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Actually, maybe the easiest thing is to wait 4 hours for the original > voting period to end (unofficially), tally the votes, and then ratify > the ADoP r

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Proposal Pool (revised)

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
t week, thereby failing to distribute all pending > proposals. > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 17:38 Aris Merchant, > wrote: >> >> This following is a revision to the proposal pool from my last report. >> >> The proposal pool contains the following propo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Proposal Pool (revised)

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
r was reminded and had the > opportunity to avoid the violation by distributing the proposal at the time > of the report. > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 17:59 Aris Merchant, > wrote: >> >> Very true. I plead guilty and request the mercy of the Referee for >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Proposal Pool (revised)

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
a green card or a yellow card would seem reasonable under the circumstances. -Aris On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > If by "the report" you mean the one I just I did, I avoided that > because I'm preparing the next report and its easier for people to &

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Proposal Pool (revised)

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
e than the inconvenience of having to reply > to two voting messages to vote. > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> If by "the report" you mean the one I just I did, I avoided that >> because I'm preparing the next report and its easier for people to &g

Re: DIS: eval()

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > There are many places where Agora essentially calls eval(T), where T is some > text from a player. This includes: > > The rules, of course > Proposals > Regulations > Other powered instruments (do we have any of those lying around?) > Public

DIS: Re: BUS: A few cleanups

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
As a general rule, if you aren't sure that something is read it should be a proto, not a proposal. -Aris On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I withdraw it; I had some revisions to do and it isn't ready. > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 18:27 Aris Merchant,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A few cleanups

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
x27;s why, IMHO, it's a better idea to proto it if you're not sure about it. -Aris On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > If you aren't sure it's ready, you shouldn't pend it! > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 19:08 Aris Merchant, > wrote: >&g

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Proposal Pool (revised)

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
purported Promotor's report? There is no information in the >> report which isn't in the document, and this is clearly published by the >> Promotor with the intent to convey all of the report's information. The >> subject further implies it was a report. >>

Re: DIS: Important note to Assessor and Promotor

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> >> 7922* Alexis 3.0 Clarity Act Alexis 1 AP >> > > H. Assessor, H. Promotor: > > Proposal 7922 tinkers with the defini

DIS: Re: BUS: Ratification (Quasi-Resolution of PM and ADoP Elections)

2017-10-15 Thread Aris Merchant
I recommend a green card. Given the preceding a-d discussion, this was clearly an accidental omission and not an attempt at fraud. -Aris On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 11:02 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I point a finger at myself for not stating that the document was wrong. > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:06 PM,

DIS: Draft: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7930

2017-10-16 Thread Aris Merchant
Does this look right to everyone? -Aris --- Revised proposal pool (effective at the time of my last report): IDAuthor(s) AI Title --- pp1 o 2.0 Faster Auctions pp2* G.1.7 Appeals improv

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7930

2017-10-19 Thread Aris Merchant
I vote as follows: > ID Author(s) AI TitlePender Pend fee > --- > 7922* Alexis 3.0 Clarity Act Alexis 1 AP FOR > 7923* Gaelan 1.0 Another Econom

Re: DIS: Proto Contract

2017-10-19 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Nic Evans wrote: > I'm posting this now partially for feedback, and partially so I can > easily establish it if/when contracts pass: > > Title: Nichdel's Premium Stamp Market > > Any player may become, or cease to be, a party of this contract by > announcement. Yo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Aris Merchant
The generally accepted interpretation is that the action entirely fails. Welcome back! -Aris On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Madeline wrote: > Alright, so what... does happen? It specifies you can't destroy a stamp if > Agora can't pay the balance, but nothing else has a similar clause which

DIS: Idea: Taxes

2017-10-20 Thread Aris Merchant
Our economic troubles have gone on long enough. Printing money has been rejected, despite it being what we had intended to use if we ever run out. If we don't want to print money, we _need_ taxes. I intend to write a tax proposal, but first we need to decide on the tax rates. Income taxes won't re

Re: DIS: Idea: Taxes

2017-10-20 Thread Aris Merchant
o times the playercount as the minimum should work?) > > > > On 2017-10-21 09:53, Aris Merchant wrote: >> >> Our economic troubles have gone on long enough. Printing money has >> been rejected, despite it being what we had intended to use if we ever >> run out. If we don&

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Aris Merchant
I've requested that the judge consider what would happen in that rule's absence. -Aris On Oct 20, 2017 6:59 PM, "Alexis Hunt" wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 21:53 Aris Merchant gmail.com> wrote: > >> Actually, given that this makes things more int

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Aris Merchant
at 12:59 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 at 21:53 Aris Merchant > > wrote: > >> > >> Actually, given that this makes things more interesting... I SH-CFJ (or > >> AP-CFJ if the action would otherwise fail due to lack of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-20 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> Three reasons that would be a bad judgment, which I would likely moot: >> >> 1. I'm paying for the CFJ, which means the judge will get paid for it. >&g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-21 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 9:10 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > The FLR hasn't had them in a long time: certainly not since I've been > a player. I think Gaelan took them out. Indeed, e did. I and others have volunteered to help annotate CFJs, including working on the backlog, but it never happened. The last F

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2017-10-21 Thread Aris Merchant
Arguments: I disagree with the claim that the standard of clarity is "heightened" from a normal by announcement action. The rule says that it has to be clear that the notice is a notice of honor, but it doesn't say that that clarity can't come from the title. Here it's very clear from content, cont

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Regkeepor] ACORN

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
n wondering for a while about this. > > What's the intent for this? > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: >> >> The ACORN (Agora Nomic Code of Regulations) >> >> &g

DIS: Re: CJF (Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7922-7929)

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:22 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > I'm just going to make sure my vote actually changes. > > If, despite the aforementioned October 19 post, my vote on proposals > 7922-7929 has not changed, I vote as follows: ... > 7925: FOR Again, voting for both this and contracts is a rather b

Re: DIS: Re: CJF (Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7922-7929)

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
True, I suppose. I have a feeling "can by regulation" would probably allow regulations either by announcement or with notice, but that's not the end of the world. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-10-22 at 00:16 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
I think you mean pend, not spend. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 2:52 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I create and spend a shiny to spend the following > Name: Repeal the Reportor > AI: 1 > Author: me > Text: Repeal rule 2446 "The Agoran Newspaper" > > -- > From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
I concur. We finally have an active reportor, now is not the time to repeal the newspaper. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Why though? Even if it isn't an entirely useful of the game, I still enjoy > reading the newspaper every week. > > On 10/22/2017 3:52 PM, VJ Ra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
tial possible. While all the > other offices have a report containing information, this office is > just "make a report!" "with what?" "words!". > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: >> I concur. We finally have an active rep

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure > it's that - a completely empty weekly report for the last two months. The Regkeepor has been diligently doing eir work unpaid, except for those weeks in which e forgets

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Not apart from deregistration and administrative fees, neither of which would normally be considered taxes. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > We already have taxes. > > > On 10/22/2017 07:39 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >> I su

DIS: Re: BUS: registration fix

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Pardon me if I'm missing something, but this doesn't seem to be pended. -Aris On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I submit the following Proposal, AI-3, "Registration fix finally": > > -- > [It looks like

DIS: [Promotor] Draft Report

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Just a draft to make sure I haven't messed something up again. -Aris --- I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 8.0 and the valid

DIS: Re: BUS: Reinstating 狐票店

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Josh T wrote: > Assuming that Contracts are now a thing, I am going to reinstate the fox's > vote shoppe. > > If Contracts exist, I create the following contract, titled "狐票店", by paying > Agora 1 Shiny: > {{{ > The player 天火狐 is the proprietor of 狐票店 (intended pr

DIS: Re: BUS: Reinstating 狐票店

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Josh T wrote: > Assuming that Contracts are now a thing, I am going to reinstate the fox's > vote shoppe. > > If Contracts exist, I create the following contract, titled "狐票店", by paying > Agora 1 Shiny: > {{{ > The player 天火狐 is the proprietor of 狐票店 (intended pr

Re: DIS: more questions

2017-10-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2017-10-23 at 09:33 -0400, ATMunn . wrote: >> When is it better to use MAY as opposed to CAN? > MAY is used in a situation where something would normally be possible > but illegal, and it makes it possible but legal. For example, we used

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3580 assigned to G.

2017-10-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> Actually, given that this makes things more interesting... I SH-CFJ (or >> AP-CFJ >> if the action would otherwise fail due to lack of shinies) "If there

Re: DIS: Questions for Trigon

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Consequently, I'm considering dropping out of the race in favour of Trigon, > but I have a few questions for em: > > 1. What method do you plan to use to keep the ruleset up to date? > 2. A past practice of Rulekeepors has been to, upon changes

Re: DIS: Revised High-Power Cleanup

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Revised based on feedback. > > Proposal: High Power Cleanup (AI=3, coauthors=G, PSS) > {{{ > Text in square brackets is not a substantive part of this proposal and is > ignored when it takes effect. > > Amend Rule 105, bullet 2 to read "When a

Re: DIS: Land Reforms

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I plan to run for the office of Surveyor with a proposed set of land > reforms. The incumbant's tenure has been marked with a low, supply- > side policy that has marginalized land and made it a part of the > ongoing economic malaise - e

DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
If people could try to keep proposal activity to a minimum for about 24 hours so I could get this out, it would be nice. -Aris --- I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote c

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:07 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:01 Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If people could try to keep proposal activity to a minimum for about >> 24 hours so I could get this out, it

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:08 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:01 Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 7940* Alexis, [3]3.0 High Power Cleanup Alexis 1 AP >> > > I withdraw this proposal,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:47 PM Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 02:40 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Campaign Proposals are Official Proposals, so they don't need manual > > pending. > > If you decide to pay the shinies to pend one even though it's already > pending, does it then pay out

Re: DIS: Questions for Trigon

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
ts. My Github Username is CodeTriangle. > A2. If anyone wants to do volunteer work, I will gladly accept it. > > If anyone else has questions, or if I did not give adequate responses, I > would be happy to address them. > > > On 10/24/2017 7:14 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >> &g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: State of the Onion

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
And this is why o held 5 offices, and why its still a good idea to keep em in several of them. Not only did e personally write a good portion of the economy, but you will note that e displays clear symptoms of civic-mindedness. -Airs On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] More Actions Should Use Agoran Consent

2017-10-26 Thread Aris Merchant
NttPF. -Aris On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:53 PM, ATMunn wrote: > Ah. I retract the below proposal. I didn't pend it anyway, and obviously > nobody will vote for it. > > > On 10/25/2017 9:51 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> Needs to be AI-3 to work. >> >> On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, ATMunn wrote: >>> >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] More Actions Should Use Agoran Consent

2017-10-26 Thread Aris Merchant
s Scholasticus > wrote: >> But retraction is itself informal. >> >> >> On 10/26/2017 08:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >>> NttPF. >>> >>> -Aris >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:53 PM, ATMunn wrote: >>>

DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer loves halloween

2017-10-26 Thread Aris Merchant
You are warned that this contains links, which will appear in the distribution. -Aris On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I create the following Proposal and pend it with 1 AP: > > Title: Spoopy Agorans > Content: > > * Amend "Emotion is a player switch, tracked by the registr

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Scroll of Agora

2017-10-27 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > >= > THE SCROLL OF AGORA > === > Herald's Monthly Report > Octo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Contract

2017-10-28 Thread Aris Merchant
Oh. That makes sense. It's still probably going to be a bigger problem for o than me though. -Aris On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2017-10-28 at 15:37 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: >> I'm not Notary, just Promotor and Regkeepor. I think you m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Contract

2017-10-28 Thread Aris Merchant
r Aris in that capacity. > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Alex Smith > wrote: >> >> On Sat, 2017-10-28 at 15:37 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: >> > I'm not Notary, just Promotor and Regkeepor. I think you mean o. I >> > pay o 5 shinies to thank em fo

DIS: Re: BUS: New Contract

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Josh T wrote: > I create the following contract, titled "Order of the Occult Hand", by > paying Agora 1 Shiny: > {{{ > The player 天火狐 is the proprietor of the Order of the Occult Hand. The > proprietor CAN make amendments to this contract by announcing eir intent t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Contract

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
about giving some of the Pot to the Promotor? If so, > what is a reasonable amount? > > 天火狐 > > > On 28 October 2017 at 19:02, Alex Smith wrote: >> >> On Sat, 2017-10-28 at 15:44 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: >> > I didn't consider that. They do have to b

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] FV Restoration

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
I missed this. I'll distribute it with my proposal pool, which may be a little late (please don't point a finger at me anyone), but should be coming out in the next ~24 hours. -Aris On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:44 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I submit the following proposal, and spend 2 sh. to pend

Re: DIS: Draft: [Proposal] Auctions

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM, ATMunn wrote: > The draft of my long-awaited (not really) auctions proposal is finally > finished. > Here it is in all its glory (not really): You're doing a thing where each sentence is on its own line. They should preferably be in paragraphs. > Title: Auctions

Re: DIS: Draft: [Proposal] Auctions

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > Hot-take proto: Make contract membership cards an asset that can only be > voluntarily received. The beautiful thing about contracts is that they can do this themselves if they want to. Oh, they can't say that if you have a card you're a member,

Re: DIS: Draft: [Proposal] Auctions

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Nic Evans wrote: >> Hot-take proto: Make contract membership cards an asset that can only be >> voluntarily received. > > The beautiful thing about contracts is that they can do this

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal & CFJs (rather frivolous)

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 2:03 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > I also call a much more straightforward CFJ with shinies donated to > charity on the following statement: "Judicial Activism: the Contract > has 'fulfilled its purpose, does not specify any gamestate affecting > statements, or otherwise seems unlik

DIS: Re: BUS: CoE against recent decisions

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
Also, ATMunn, those IDs have been used (well, apparently not actually, but I attempted to use them and changing it now would be confusing). Only the Promotor can identify a proposal anyway, I think. -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 6:59 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: > It appears that recent Agoran decisio

Re: DIS: CFJ 3586 Draft?

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
Yes, as it happens. There is a decision on the matter in the first paragraph of CFJ 3523 [1]. It is in agreement with your proposed ruling. [1] https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3523 -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Madeline wrote: > My first instinct here is to judge thi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ Initiation

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
How? Keeping money isn't really a profit, is it? -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Madeline wrote: > I'd suggest a blue card, actually, since you profited from the rules breach. > > > > On 2017-10-30 13:40, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> The worst that can come out of this CFJ is that I am found to

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
Here's a draft. This should work properly, right? -Aris I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 6.0 and the valid options are FOR a

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
; On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: >> Here's a draft. This should work properly, right? >> >> -Aris >> >> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran >> Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from

DIS: Re: BUS: Voting on a lot of things

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 9:13 PM Telnaior wrote: > I vote: > > FOR 7931 > FOR 7932 (this is way cooler than a victory election) > FOR 7933 > AGAINST 7934 (why are we turning into a literature club I'm awful at poems) > FOR 7935 (but you might want to make the revision limit switch secured) > FOR 7

DIS: Party Proclamation

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
OFFICIAL PARTY PROCLAMATION The Party has benevolently governed Agora for a long time, protecting the interests of the players and the game. Recently, it has come to the attention of Party leadership that some persons may be attempting to seditiously defy party authority. This cannot be tolerated,

Re: DIS: Party Proclamation

2017-10-29 Thread Aris Merchant
play warewolf? > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > OFFICIAL PARTY PROCLAMATION > > > > The Party has benevolently governed Agora for a long time, protecting the > > interests of the players and the game. Recently, it has come to the > at

Re: DIS: Party Proclamation

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
ssians? > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > > > It's actually inspired by something G. said about a past mini game. I was > > thinking maybe there wouldn't even be actual traitors, just accusations > of > > trea

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Regkeepor] ACORN

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
I don't think e ever resolved the intent. -Aris On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 6:29 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > Didn't o promulgate a regulation setting the weekly contract limit at 3? > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: >> The ACORN (Ago

Re: DIS: Party Proclamation

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
t; it's rather clear who would win a strict popularity contest. > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: >> I don't mind but I feel like we already have Karma for a popularity mechanic >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Aris Merchant >> wrote

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: JA;tC

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
, VJ Rada wrote: > >> I support. > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Aris Merchant > >> wrote: > >>> I intend to destroy JA:tC with 2 Agora Consent, on the basis that it > has > >>> been judged INEFFECTIVE. > &

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
I disagree. We need to increase rates and institute a wealth tax. The problem is those who aren't working but have money built up that they aren't using, not the working class Agorans who toil away preforming useful functions. The fact certain past Reportors have slacked off is no reason to decreas

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
7;t scale quite enough, but I'm not sure it's the right paradigm anyway. -Aris On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:32 PM VJ Rada wrote: > The wealthy people are wealthy _because_ of exorbitant report rates > and welcome packages. > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Aris Merchant

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Treasuror] Passive Income

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
The once per payment thing is good by the way, because it stops Agora from piling up debt forever. -Aris On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:00 PM Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Oct 30, 2017, at 11:23 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > > > If I pay agora all o' my shinies, will the actual payments go through? > > No

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:11 PM Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:42 AM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > >> Well, I'll agree about welcome packages. However, the report rates are

Re: DIS: Re: Wards

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
There is a significant possibility that implementing that system would cause infinite exponential inflation. If we could control that, it sounds workable. -Aris On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:43 PM VJ Rada wrote: > Why do we not just have Agora just be infinitely rich and tie floating > values on h

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > >Below is an exhaustive list of Reward Conditions and eir rewards: Please change this to their. This bugs me an insane amount. -Aris

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Referee Election Agoran Decision Initiation [and making stuff easier for the Assessor]

2017-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant
And I can't distribute them. And I can't remove them, because they're pending. I knew this was a bad idea. -Aris On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:34 PM VJ Rada wrote: > Sorry Munn, neither the initiation of the election nor the > distribution of the proposal worked. Rules say the following "the ADoP >

Re: DIS: Draft: [Proposal] Auctions

2017-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 5:18 PM, ATMunn wrote: > Thanks for this, Aris. Comments on your comments below. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, and thank you for looking at my comments. >>> If the contract that made one of its parties an Auctioneer of an >>> auction does not permit t

Re: DIS: Request to the Promotor re: ID numbers

2017-10-31 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > In my work on the rules history, I discovered that around 1999, it was > possible to adopt proposals outside the normal distribution process, and > this led to two proposals being adopted without classic ID numbers: one with > ID number "01-00

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Estate Auction Bid

2017-11-03 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:11 PM Alex Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2017-11-04 at 10:39 +1100, VJ Rada wrote: > > It's already ILLEGAL to not pay it, and it certainly shouldn't be > > made IMPOSSIBLE to bid more than you have, because you could gain > > money later. > > In my opinion, bidding on an auctio

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Estate Auction Bid

2017-11-03 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:52 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:11 PM Alex Smith > wrote: > >> On Sat, 2017-11-04 at 10:39 +1100, VJ Rada wrote: >> > It's already ILLEGAL to not pay it, and it certainly shoul

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Estate Auction Bid

2017-11-03 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > On Nov 3, 2017, at 10:28 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:52 PM Aris Merchant > wrote: >> >> >> Finally an excuse to suggest accounts (they're on the Massive Reform

DIS: Judicial Reform

2017-11-03 Thread Aris Merchant
I'm getting tired of waiting for others to release judicial reform proposals, and am considering writing my own. As a loyal member (am I the head?) of the "make Agora 2010 again" party, I suggest reenacting the judicial system here [1] . I'd probably simplify it somewhat, in particular removing som

Re: DIS: Judicial Reform

2017-11-03 Thread Aris Merchant
ificantly better in those respects for the current system. Also, the paradigm change sounds fun to me. -Aris On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:27 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I'd like to know what we're currently doing wrong that 2010-Agora was doing > right? > > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:2

DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2017-11-03 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Proposal: A Most Ingenious Paradox (AI=1.7) Do you want to pend this? -Aris

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