Re: [Emc-developers] move-while-paused in action: video

2012-04-24 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/24 Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at: I decided to ignore the conventional wisdom that it cannot be done, and gave it a try. here are some prelimary results: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJPLJGdiQWwfeature=plcpcontext=C494ebbdVDvjVQa1PpcFOUhIqfm3XcEJtse1eR8fqk7sO0WffoNSU%3D

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-23 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/23 Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net: What is ja3? Joints_axes3 branch in master git repository. Is it any wonder that Joe Public has such a poor opinion of EMC/LinuxCNC!! - I've been here 4 years and you've yet to convince me it's not a closed shop speaking in a secret language.

Re: [Emc-users] Relay driver not working - solved

2012-04-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/22 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Saturday, April 21, 2012 05:16:18 PM Jon Elson did opine: Great. If it has the same part number, it SHOULD have the same pinout! Any maker who does it differently should be shot. What a pain! Yep, and I'll load the ammo. Glad you got it figured

Re: [Emc-users] Fixed Dwell

2012-04-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/22 Mike Bennett mjb1...@gmail.com: From reading other posts I see that HAL has a spindle-at-speed input that is intended to be used with encoders, but could it be used with a timer? Exactly! It may be intended for encoders, but You are the one to adjust this point... You can link it to

Re: [Emc-users] Fixed Dwell

2012-04-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/22 Mike Bennett mjb1...@gmail.com: Is timedelay a Linux CNC module that can be triggered by a spindle start command? It can be triggered by whatever You need. IMHO motion.spindle-on is most appropriate for Your situation. Where should I look for documentation on this?

Re: [Emc-users] Fixed Dwell

2012-04-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/22 Mike Bennett mjb1...@gmail.com: Brilliant I've added the following to my custom.hal file and it works You can safely put these lines in Your main HAL file as well. I usually have everything in one HAL file. They can be up to 400 lines long... Putting comments is very recommended,

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-21 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/21 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com: Stuart Stevenson wrote: Would a read ahead of 1000 lines be more time consuming than the NURB calculation? A modest NURBS surface could be scanned pretty quickly to find the sharp edges, if any.  1000 block lookahead may not be necessary, even 100

Re: [Emc-users] Relay driver not working - solved

2012-04-21 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/21 Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com: I'm just getting into the middle of this thread, but if I recall, the last time we visited this circuit we found two sets of datasheets for the same device with different pin outs. Maybe a multimeter could sort out the pins. Kirk, You have

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC on 7i43 + 7i39 + linear motors

2012-04-21 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/21 Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com: setp hm2_7i43.0.3pwmgen.00.A-value 1 setp hm2_7i43.0.3pwmgen.00.B-value 0 setp hm2_7i43.0.3pwmgen.00.C-value 0 IMHO these will tell to apply current to a certain winding of the motor, so it will not move anywhere. You might try to setp

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-21 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/21 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com: The real problem I see is that RATIONAL G-code that was correctly written to perform a particular operation cannot be executed as fast as the machine and drives COULD allow it to go, due to the stop on next block requirement. I agree. What I see the

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 Scott Hasse scott.ha...@gmail.com: It seems to me that the likelihood of fixing all of the methods of gcode generation such that they don't generate short line segments is approximately zero.  Also, it seems that even if a proprietary LinuxCNC gcode extension allowed arbitrary plane

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net: Curve fitting to an arbitrary bunch of points is an approximate art, AIUI, with tolerance calculation at all points probably taking a bit of time. Admittedly, I don't know whether nurbs make that faster/slower or easier/harder to achieve

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at: to stay within that model, for instance the polyline-to-NURBS conversion would require yet another ad-hoce path 'queue'. The other option is to go the preprocessor route as Ken proposed. some problems cannot be addressed with a deeper

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com: i dont have a good idea of what a nurbs nc file might be like, http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NURBS See the pdf (there is a link at the bottom) for the velocity difference, when the same toolpath is machined either by small G1 moves or by

Re: [Emc-users] persistent homing

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net: I don't have home switches, etc.  I want my last home position to be remembered between software cycles. If I understand You correctly, then You want LinuxCNC to remember the position of joints/axes, when program is closed so that when You start it over

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 Kenneth Lerman kenneth.ler...@se-ltd.com: Let's consider the alternatives: 1 -- Change the CAM system so that it generates better code. Since there are multiple CAM systems over which we have little control, this us not feasible. Yupp, unless somebody has might and resources to

Re: [Emc-users] persistent homing

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com: How would you know what state stepper/servos are in without homing in some way do you have absolute encoders If there are no significant external forces to shift motors, when they are not powered, then steppers would not drift more than a

Re: [Emc-users] persistent homing

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at: I was thinking about introducing handlers similar to ON_ABORT which would execute on startup, first machine-on and shutdown There is INI file option to execute separate HAL file on shutdown: SHUTDOWN = shutdown.hal Viesturs

[Emc-users] Relay driver not working

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello, gentlemen! I would appreciate, if someone could advice, what is wrong with my diy relay driver. I built it according to this scheme: http://www.cutting.lv/fileadmin/user_upload/bd140_scheme.gif Relay is PE014005: http://www.te.com/catalog/pn/en/1393219-3 The transistor is BD140-16

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com: I was making a comparison between the short lines generated by G02/G03 being processed rapidly and a program generating the exact same geometry buy with short linear moves. Cam packages can output the code either way. Yes, but the difference is

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 dave dengv...@charter.net: c. add a polynomial of nth-order. How would You tell the trajectory planner, which exactly section of the plynomial's graph to use between 2 given points? Viesturs -- For

Re: [Emc-users] Relay driver not working

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/20 Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com: Measure the base voltage in the two states relative to +5 It changes from +5,07 VDC to 0,60 VDC. +5 actually are +5,17, so it means that base voltage swings from -0,1 to -4,57V, relative to +5V. But it does not work, even if I connect the base

Re: [Emc-users] Relay driver not working

2012-04-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Ok, I have 3 more BD140s to play with, so will try again tomorrow. Viesturs 2012. gada 20. Apr. 18:24 Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com rakstīja: There is no way a base can go beyond around .6 volts if the transistor is ok or it is connected correctly shorting the base to ground will

[Emc-users] 2 issues with LinuxCNC

2012-04-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello, gentlemen! I have 2 strange things about LinuxCNC, I hope that someone can help me out with an advice. First is that the machine has only servo thread and servo period set at 50 ns (running at 2 kHz). About a minute after starting LinuxCNC, I get realtime error, check dmesg for

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/19 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 19 April 2012 14:04, Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.com wrote: But I see how it might be a limiting factor for a modern Hass class speed machine w/ massive spindle hp and feed rates possible when profiling. It shouldn't be a limit on any machine

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/19 Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.com:  Around tight curves, that requires lots of short sections w/ high changes in velocity.  But you have to go slow within the limits of the machine around those anyway. Just like Andy said - if there is curve in the part, then that is why there

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/19 Les Newell les.new...@fastmail.co.uk: The big problem is that very often the curves in the drawing are not true arcs. This is especially common in artistic and sign work. The quality of the CAM output is directly dependent on the quality of the input drawing. Drawings that contains

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/19 Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:18:52PM +0300, Viesturs L??cis wrote: How hard would it be to add that? It would require 3 coordinates for each of start, end and center point. The guts of linuxcnc already support this kind of motion and have for some

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/19 Les Newell les.new...@fastmail.co.uk: SheetCam does not support NURBS curves internally. When it imports a drawing, all non-circular curves are broken down into lots of very small line segments. It then does arc matching on those line segments and any other line segments in the

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/19 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 19 April 2012 19:57, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: That is just the worst problem.  Your system doesn't uniquely identify any arc.  For every start, center, end points there are a pair of arcs that share the points.  This is why we have G2/G3.

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC on 7i43 + 7i39 + linear motors

2012-04-16 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/16 Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com: I look from the top, like shown in manual. And pin 1 it's in the right bottom corner. I have different voltage at pin groups exactly according the manual. And I have 5V at left middle pin. By the way what is SENSEA and SENSEB inputs? They are

Re: [Emc-users] Understanding the 5i25

2012-04-13 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/13 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net: Adding a pin inverting option for the stepgen would be handy. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html#General Purpose I/O Each output pin has several additional parameters. One of them is invert_output Viesturs

Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase bldc motor question

2012-04-13 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/13 Gabriel Willen gabewil...@gmail.com:  What would a motor with a 310 voltage rating and continuous current of let's say 5 amps benefit from a motor rated at 48v by 15 amps. It is 220 VAC in the power socket in Europe, pass it through rectifier bridge, smooth out with capacitor and You

Re: [Emc-users] Restarting from line number

2012-04-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/12 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: Thanks Andy, I think that would have worked perfectly had I marked my home on the piece. It seems that You do not have homing switches on the machine. LinuxCNC saves the offsets in coordinate systems (G54, G55 etc), so with repeatable homing on

Re: [Emc-users] Understanding the 5i25

2012-04-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
You could try a hm2-stepper sample config. Take 5i23.ini, change the name of board to 5i25 and edit the config line to remove all the loading firmware related things, but keep the number of stepgens, and see, if it works. I think that for standard, trivial machine this could be good starting

Re: [Emc-users] Understanding the 5i25

2012-04-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/12 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net: I don't mind writing my own, its just that details are so sketchy and I don't know where to get information.  I am blindly kludging around trying to get a grasp on basics here. Any specific questions? Viesturs

Re: [Emc-users] Understanding the 5i25

2012-04-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
need - pasting in terminal does not work with ctrl+v. It works either with (just like copying) adding shift (ctr+shift+v) or with shift+insert. 2012/4/12 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net: Where can I find a cut and pastable pin list? On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la

Re: [Emc-users] German-language documentation, was: Downloading Release 2.5

2012-04-11 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/11 Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com: I suspect very few people understand the difference between coordinated mode (N-Bahnsteuerung) where multiple joints move at the same time to make the tool move in XYZ space under operator control and Teleop mode (1-Bahnsteuerung) where the operator

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC modes, was: German-language documentation, was: Downloading Release 2.5

2012-04-11 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/11 Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com: On 04/10/2012 11:57 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/11 Andy Pughbodge...@gmail.com: I suspect very few people understand the difference between coordinated mode (N-Bahnsteuerung) where multiple joints move at the same time to make the tool

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC modes, was: German-language documentation, was: Downloading Release 2.5

2012-04-11 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/11 Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com: Free/Teleop/Coord are modes of the motion controller, a low-level part of LinuxCNC.  These modes are usually not directly experienced by users. Manual/MDI/Auto are modes of the Axis GUI (and probably other GUIs), this is what users see all the

Re: [Emc-users] German-language documentation, was: Downloading Release 2.5

2012-04-11 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/11 Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de: Right, Gelenk would be my fist choice to translate joint, but it describes only the   p o i n t   where movement takes place, e.g., the ellbow or knee itself, not the arm or leg or even their ends (where the desired movement takes place), which is

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/8 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: I was just thinking about the set up as I understand it (i.e. the Mesa card replacing my parallel port connected directly to the Geckos). It seems like

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: How is that possible? The encoders are connected to the Geckos, not through the parallel port…. I do not understand, what exactly is not clear to You :) AFAIK Gecko drives will need the encoder signal for them to function, so each encoder signal will

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-09 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: On Apr 9, 2012, at 3:16 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/4/9 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: How is that possible? The encoders are connected to the Geckos, not through the parallel port I do not understand, what exactly is not clear to You

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-08 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/8 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: I emailed Mesa to inquire about purchasing, and it looks like I would want the firmware set to support the Gecko 540. (that is the only Gecko controller they list support for). What support in firmware does one or other particular drive need, if it

Re: [Emc-developers] manuals

2012-04-08 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/7 Thomas Powderly tomp4...@gmail.com: Gentlemen, Stuart's recollection is also mine to the extent that M02 was 'all done' and M30 was 'i'm hungry, feed me' and we wired lights and audio alarms accordingly. Can You tell, how to do that? Are there any specific HAL pins, associated with

Re: [Emc-users] Mesa counter card?

2012-04-06 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/6 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: Is there anything I will need to order besides the Mesa's 4I30? How simple is it to wire up? I assume the encoder signals go to the Mesa? How are the Geckos wired? What does the parallel port connect to? I have been using Mesa cards, but I am

Re: [Emc-developers] manuals: what has changed? viewing the difference of two versions of a HTML page

2012-04-05 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/5 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: How do I find out what has changed recently? That is a problem. Would it be possible for user to specify, which is the reference version, the base, against which current docs are compared for changes? I guess that this basically reduces to: are the 2 sources

[Emc-developers] OT: Re: manuals: what has changed? viewing the difference of two versions of a HTML page

2012-04-05 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/5 Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at: Viesturs - Nothing is impossible to the determined coder! Here is your starting point to realize your dreams: http://static.mah.priv.at/public/walk.py I was just curious... Sorry, did not understand much of that code. I am at the level of

Re: [Emc-users] RELEASED: LinuxCNC 2.5.0

2012-04-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/2 John Prentice j...@castlewd.freeserve.co.uk: I am having trouble following the process in the link with Lucid. On the Reload step I get: the screen at www.castlewoodconsultants.com/Misc/Upgrade2-5Trouble.jpg Be sure you have typed the line exactly like deb http://linuxcnc.org/

Re: [Emc-developers] adding araisrobo (aka artek) branch:

2012-04-01 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/1 Yishin Li y...@araisrobo.com: I don't think our modification breaks the existing spindle synchronization. And, I have no intention to do so. The comment for this issue was from the LinuxCNC community. I feel little guilty for this one, as I have been mentioning this on the list. I

Re: [Emc-users] Latency test

2012-03-31 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/31 Alwyn McLeod mcleod.al...@gmail.com: When I run the latency test, I get Base thread jitter of 932659. In the config file the max. is set at 50,000. What You set in INI file is the length of the particular thread. I guess that length of base thread is set at 50'000 ns and length of

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a, EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-03-31 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/31 cogoman cogo...@optimum.net: From: Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] This will run in a little off-topic by me... You can run heavy duty machines with steppers, but then the performance will suffer - You will have to leave big safety margin in terms of

Re: [Emc-users] Max Jitter

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: I am familiar with the latency test, that is exactly what I was referring to. It reports two Max Jitters there and I did not know for certain that one was for servos and the other for steppers. Thank you. No, no, no!!! Based on the second sentence,

Re: [Emc-users] Max Jitter

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: One mistake in the above Viesturs, in your 40 kilohertz base_thread loop description, linuxcnc has been able to issue a complete step pulse per loop iteration for something like 3, maybe 4 years now.  It does this by timing a 2 or 3 microsecond pulse

Re: [Emc-users] Max Jitter

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Jan de Kruyf jan.de.kr...@gmail.com: Look here for fast motherboard - cpu combinations: https://www.osadl.org/Individual-system-data.qa-farm-data.0.html#c4366 And that page is very good at showing that more cores and higher cpu clock rates do not necessarily mean less jitter. For

Re: [Emc-users] Max Jitter

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Jan de Kruyf jan.de.kr...@gmail.com: It is the combination that matters Viesturs. Well, I think that there are many factors that matter. My goal was to explain Jeshua and probably other new users that for stepper machines (meaning all the machines, which control motor drives with

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/29 Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com: It is past 9 PM, so I will try to run LinuxCNC with 8i20 attached tomorrow morning once more. Peter, today I tried again and the result is the same as before - fault led is turned on and I do not see 8i20 in Show HAL config under Pins

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Adapter

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: Actually, perhaps I spoke too soon. On the box it states Add a dual voltage high-speed parallel port (EPP/ECP) to your computer. EPP mode is needed only and exclusively for external fpga boards. If Your goal is software step generation, then You do

Re: [Emc-users] Max Jitter

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: And, that is very interesting! When I run the CPU hog, my max jitter goes down to about 1,000! Wow! How long did You run the latency test? Did You try to put some load to PC? I would like to set the CPU as instructed, but I have never used grub

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Adapter

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: I guess that one of these c090, c080, c070, c060 or c020 is the port address, which should be specified in the HAL file (sorry, I am not that smart to know, which one exactly; trial-and-error

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: Is your RJ45 pin 3 high? (high than pin 6) if not you likely have the +/- swapped on both RX and TX Just to make sure that I correctly understand, what do You mean: Pin 3 is Txa for 8i20, so I have connected to non-inverted input of SN75179 chip.

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:27:30 +0300 From: [UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)     emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] Max Jitter

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/31 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: It is better to put it as a file in /etc/grub.d/, named as 07_rtai as this way it can maybe survive a kernel update. It does not really make sense, because kernel updates are strongly not recommended - LinuxCNC will not accept any other kernel but the

Re: [Emc-users] Max Jitter

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/31 Jan de Kruyf jan.de.kr...@gmail.com: Do you get those errors with servos Gene? or with steppers! I am interested, since Jon was praising that board so much. Jon is not the only one... I also feel like intel has really deserved a few good words (I kind of feel like amd fan) about

Re: [Emc-developers] Emc-developers Digest, Vol 71, Issue 18

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Alexey Starikovskiy aysta...@gmail.com: Also, do you have any plans to send your changes to main repository? Michael Haberler asked this today in adding araisrobo (aka artek) branch thread. AFAIK s-curve velocity profile motion needs some effort for spindle synchronization. Viesturs

Re: [Emc-developers] adding araisrobo (aka artek) branch:

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at: I plan to add https://github.com/artek/emc2:master as branch joints_axes3_arais to git.linuxcnc.org, as a start to bring it back into the fold That would be nice. AFAIK the only issue with current s-curve velocity profile implementation is

Re: [Emc-developers] The preempt_RT vs RTAI question

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net: I do real-time on Windows, with no kernel patches!  :) Please, do not get me wrong, I am not an IT guy by any means, but I seriously doubt that non-patched windoze can be real-time (although it depends on the definition of realtime).

Re: [Emc-developers] Crazy Talk [was: I am new here]

2012-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/30 Lars Segerlund lars.segerl...@gmail.com:  Which is why I have been trying to agitate for preempt-rt There is just one tiny and insignificant problem: I guess that there is no way to obtain some true numbers, how many of all LinuxCNC machines have software step generation, but my guess

Re: [Emc-users] Max Jitter

2012-03-29 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/29 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: Hi, I am not sure to use the 1.0ms or 25us figure. Can anyone shed some light on which jitter number I would use for the latency test? Based on the wording You used: which jitter number I would use for the latency test, I am not sure that I

Re: [Emc-users] Ubuntu 10.10

2012-03-26 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/26 Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com: Greetings, I am reading conflicting reports about if EMC2 is compatible with Ubuntu 10.10. Can I upgrade the 10.04 system installed from the LinuxCNC live CD to Ubuntu 10.10 without breaking EMC2 and rtai? You most definitely _do not_ want to

Re: [Emc-users] Total OT - TV signal

2012-03-24 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/24 Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net: Aha! This guy: http://web.archive.org/web/20080328024851/http://www.shol.com/kuggie/cttip/passive.html achieved a good picture from non existent without an amplifier. Erik, thank You for all the links! Most probably I will show them to my

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-24 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/22 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: You can check your converter by looping the RS-422 TX to RX (TX+ to RX+ TX- to RX-) and then togging the FPGA TX pin and seeing if the FPGA RX pin follows (you would need to disable SSERIAL so you catn get contro of the pins as GPIO =

Re: [Emc-users] Total OT - TV signal

2012-03-23 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/22 Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de: First: are you sure the dish is directed correctly to the satellite? My apologies for not stating it clearly - it is DVB-T signal, terrestrial, not satellite. Thanks, Kirk and Gene! The antenna is ~2m long, its orientation is the same as previous

Re: [Emc-users] Total OT - TV signal

2012-03-23 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/23 Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net: That hill and its trees are casting a signal shadow. Yupp, exactly! Do you have a friend living on the top or side of the hill? No, it is relatively small - less 10 m high, pretty close to house. There are only trees on it, no buildings or

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: On Sun, 18 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:21:38 -0400 From: [UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)     emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/22 Greg Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.com: Do you have a usb to ttl converter? If  so you could use a terminal program and do a loop-back test (connect RX to TX) No. The converter I built is the very first scheme here: http://www.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit/Rs422/Rs422.pdf Viesturs

[Emc-users] Total OT - TV signal

2012-03-22 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello, guys! I have a total off-topic question, because this is the only place I know to ask technical kind of questions. Is there any way to boost the signal of digital TV? The thing is that at my parents' house the signal is not very good, and pretty often lots of channels are not working due

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-21 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/21 Alwyn McLeod mcleod.al...@gmail.com: Kirk, Thanks for your insight into the problem as per your recent message You could just do this: Put a M00 on the line right before the TxM6 line. When the machine stops at the M00 hit the esc key Now jog around,change tools and touch off.  

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: SSERIAL will not start a 8I20 unless the 8I20 has its drive enable powered and ~45V motor power. (newer 8I20 firmware does allow starts under these conditions) Do I need also to connect the motor for 8i20? Of course, I will need it, when I will try

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie Introduction, Missing link...

2012-03-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Roger Holmquist ro...@abcnc.se: Well, there was a missing link in my previous message: -SNIP- SMP can be freely translated to Great Swamps Production Inc This is not an ordinary machine shop. It is situated in Sweden, in the northern part of Europe called Scandinavia far beyond

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie speaks again, this time FANUC/Siemes...

2012-03-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Roger Holmquist ro...@abcnc.se: BTW, what about such a machine as a LinuxCNC target, don't know much about it's features right now... My guess is that - since it is a CNC machine now, than implementing LinuxCNC is mission totally possible. All the limit switches and other stuff is

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Tony Zampini zampi...@cox.net: There is a reference to the name in the script itself:    h = hal.component(hal_manualtoolchange) Do I need to change the name here too? Also, in the .ini file, the name appears in four places:    loadusr -W hal_manualtoolchange    net

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com: If I would do what you suggest and put my changes directly in the hal file, then every change I make in pncconf would require me to manually re-merge my custom changes.  AFAIK, the recommended approach for custom hal via pncconf is custom.hal

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: Heres tha latest I have(any SSERIAL with 5 registers has to be at least 6 months old) So I got LinuxCNC to start up without errors. I have connected 8i20 drive to 7i43 card. 1) But I do not see it in Show HAL config (I expect it to appear there, if

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil: On 3/17/2012 1:08 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/3/17 Mark Wendt (Contractor)mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil: You're missing at least the Boost.Python libraries for C++ (gcc). Dunno what else you're missing since I don't know what you have

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie introduction

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Roger Holmquist ro...@abcnc.se: This is not an ordinary machine shop. It is situated in Sweden, in the northern part of Europe called Scandinavia far beyond any normal place for a company of this sort (well, 5 km) like HERE Yes, it is a former farm but what's inside the buildings

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change question

2012-03-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/18 Tony Zampini zampi...@cox.net: Steve, Interesting! Can I upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.4.6 if I originally installed from the LiveCD (10.04)? I currently see a bunch of potential updates appear in the Update Manager window when I start my system, but I was afraid to install them. If I do

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Jack Coats j...@coats.org: What companies seem to want to purchase is not 'software' and 'hardware'.  They want solutions. Yes, exactly! Unfortunately my clients tend to ask, what kind of solution they are paying for and what am I going to implement and then it would be nice to show

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 charles green xxzzb...@yahoo.com: if possible, i would like a complete list of cost insensitive customers. :))) What I meant is the top priority of the customer - if cost is the one and only criterion or maybe some other things are considered equally or even more important...

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/10 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: Looks like at least 2 problems, one is that the firmware and driver are different versions (that firmware is fairly ancient) and the second problame is that the config line syntax has changed (this should be fixable with man hostmot2) John Murphy

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: No I think its some other version  issue (nml has nothin to do with hm2) Ok, what else could it be? Last weak I downloaded the latest-at-that-moment buildbot version. Viesturs

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Peter, what am I supposed to have on PC for smart-serial module to work? The only thing I know of is inuxCNC 2.5.something. Is there anything else? Thats it Then I have only the buildbot version to

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com: I will report back about my success. So I uninstalled the buildbot version, got the source code and in terminal executed: sudo apt-get build-dep emc2 ./autogen.sh ./configure The ./configure script terminates with this error message (I copied

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Mark Wendt (Contractor) mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil: You're missing at least the Boost.Python libraries for C++ (gcc). Dunno what else you're missing since I don't know what you have on your machine. ;-) I just want to test one 8i20 servo drive, no real machine to control. Where can I

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz mic...@wp.pl: sudo apt-get install libboost-python-dev Thanks, that worked! ./configure completed successfully sudo make completedsuccessfully sudo make setuid terminates with error: viesturs@ubuntu:~/linuxcnc-dev/src$ sudo make setuid make: Entering directory

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz mic...@wp.pl: Try use make without sudo Thanks, You are right, there is no sudo in wiki page. I still get some errors, so I deleted the code, will download it again and then retry. BTW a little off-topic: the command to clone the source from git is: git clone

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz mic...@wp.pl: If you execute 'git clean -x -d -f' in top of linuxcnc source directory, it will reset to state after clone Thanks, I will try to remember! And now what? I ran all these commands: cd src ./autogen.sh ./configure make make install-menus sudo make

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Roger Holmquist ro...@abcnc.se: Thanks for your responses. It seems I have to give LinuxCNC a closer look. There is a low cost commercial alternative in MACH 3. I guess you have an opinions on that system too? That is pretty much provocative question :)) Here is my thoughts, why

Re: [Emc-users] Smart-serial and 7i43

2012-03-17 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/17 Michał Geszkiewicz mic...@wp.pl: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_LinuxCNC#Running_emc2 running script is in ../scripts directory Thank You! It is working! That is for run-in-place, but I did not specify that. Did it automatically build with --run-in-place? If so,

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