Re: [Oorexx-devel] oorexx.org documents

2024-04-22 Thread René Jansen
everything dynamically available, so we will not fall so far behind again. I have invited you as a collaborator on the private github repo which houses the RexxLA web server git repository. best regards, René. > On 21 Apr 2024, at 23:45, René Jansen wrote: > > Not sure if these

Re: [Oorexx-devel] oorexx.org documents

2024-04-21 Thread René Jansen
Not sure if these are built in a regular interval. I would start with acopy; you canway replace those with links. Best regards, René. > On 21 Apr 2024, at 23:14, taf wrote: > > the ooRexx website has pointers to the docs subdirectory for manuals... but > the manuals are not there. Does

Re: [Oorexx-devel] oorexx website commit authorization

2024-04-21 Thread René Jansen
The svn checkout should have given it your userid and not mine. The RexxLA website is in a private github repository. Mark can help. Best regards, René. > On 21 Apr 2024, at 02:51, taf wrote: > >  > I've updated the working copy (which is also the live website), and now I'd > like to

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Preparing for the next release

2024-04-19 Thread René Jansen
Hi P.O., this is very good news, and thank you for the effort. I will be sure to commit exactly nothing today and hope the others follow. best regards, René. > On 18 Apr 2024, at 23:32, ooRexx wrote: > > Dear all, > > In preparation for the next release I am doing a "dry-run" on some tasks

Re: [Oorexx-devel] rexxGTK build

2024-01-16 Thread René Jansen
Hi Ruurd, even if you could make a video of a presentation I bet lots of people would be very interested! best regards, René > On 16 Jan 2024, at 14:28, Ruurd Idenburg wrote: > > Ok, I'll put some stuff together and make it available somehow. > > Ruurd > > On 1/15/24 18:14, taf wrote: >>

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Committing change

2023-09-22 Thread René Jansen
+1 > On 22 Sep 2023, at 19:55, Sahananda Sahananda wrote: > > Hi Terry, > > It looks like you are not a committer. I believe that Erich as the project > manager could convey that right on you. In the old days that would follow a > poll of all the committers. > Otherwise you would need to

Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx website

2023-09-19 Thread René Jansen
The web server runs Regina and Java for NetRexx; ooRexx coexistence seems best done with a Docker container which runs a webserver and ooRexx. This has the advance that you would be able to run an unchanged stack from home. Best regards,René.On 19 Sep 2023, at 13:36, René Jansen wrote:Hi Terry

Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx website

2023-09-19 Thread René Jansen
Hi Terry, in the mean time the NetRexx site is at github: https://github.com/rvjansen/netrexx-site works the same way as svn, but then in git. best regards, René. > On 18 Sep 2023, at 23:37, taf wrote: > > Starting a new thread... > > I've checked out the website code as per René & Mark:

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-27 Thread René Jansen
CICS also has a Java domain that is started as a resident part. René. > On 23 Jun 2023, at 20:45, Bill Giannelli wrote: > > Does JAVA have any started tasks on z/OS? > We have a task that the vendor says needs JAVA "up" first. > thanks > Bill > >

Re: JAVA started tasks?

2023-06-23 Thread René Jansen
Someone might mean WebSphere Application Server. Who knows what people think. René. > On 23 Jun 2023, at 21:30, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > I'm not sure what that even means. Java programs are run by just invoking > the JVM and specifying options on which class to run. The JZOS batch >

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

2023-06-02 Thread René Jansen
What I remember of it is that he was convinced it was a lot slower. So I told him that nobody forced him not to use QSAM for datasets just because it ran in USS. And it think that is a great asset of it. Just because Unix forces you to have a hierarchical directory system does not mean, in USS,

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

2023-06-02 Thread René Jansen
Less interesting then what to call it, is how it works out. I always found the interesting part that you can write a program and call SVC's using macros and Unix services from the same program. I found a number of people thinking that Unix is in some way 'emulated' and some really were calling

Re: Are you serious about wanting a better IBM doc RCF-type process?

2023-05-23 Thread René Jansen
+1 René Jansen. > On 23 May 2023, at 09:44, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw > <032fff1be9b4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > +1 > Voted for Peter Farley's RFE as well. > > Lennie > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: RES: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM announcement letter summary

2023-05-10 Thread René Jansen
I must say that I scanned that email every time it came in and it sometimes delivered important clues for my customers. But if IBM does not want me to read it anymore that is fine with me and it will probably hurt their dollars. I half expect them to do a RedBooks-like U-turn like in their

Re: Z/OS port o f Regina REXX

2023-05-05 Thread René Jansen
Hi Gil, not more than there is in that GitHub repo. I mailed with Mark Hessling yesterday and he is going to merge the changes into the official distribution. I am also looking at the docs and we will make sure there is a chapter on z/OS in there soon. best regards, René. > On 5 May 2023,

Re: Z/OS port of Regina REXX

2023-05-04 Thread René Jansen
> > I don’t do SourceForge and the svn nonsense. Git is the dominant SCM and has > been ported and is supported on z/OS. > I agree 100% here. René. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Z/OS port of Regina REXX

2023-05-03 Thread René Jansen
Great news David, thank you. best regards, René. > On 3 May 2023, at 09:25, David Crayford wrote: > > Rick Troff asked me to make my z/OS port of Regina REXX public so I forked > the repo and pushed it up here https://github.com/daveyc/regina > > I had to dust this off a bit and make sure

[Oorexx-users] 34th International Rexx symposium - registration

2023-04-10 Thread René Jansen
Dear ooRexx users, organization of our yearly Rexx Symposium is in full swing, and we have - like every year - some excellent presentations planned. Please register yourself on this page:

Re: [Oorexx-devel] News on Raspberry Pi builds

2023-04-10 Thread René Jansen
I thinks fixing the installer while taking care the code is still at 5.0.0 is not a big problem.Best regards,René.On 10 Apr 2023, at 22:26, ooRexx wrote:As I reported earlier the installers for ooRexx 5.0.0 is broken for Raspberry P;, the /lib branch (and maybe more) is missing in the installed

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-04-06 Thread René Jansen
They will be disappointed if they hear that, there are a fusion between Rijkspostspaarbank, NMB (Nederlansche Middenstandsbank, Postcheque en Girodienst, and Nationale Nederlanden. They are a very large bank in the Netherlands. And yes they are off the mainframe, running a lot of mainframe

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Jenkins

2023-04-04 Thread René Jansen
hi P.O.,Thanks!René.On 4 Apr 2023, at 15:49, P.O. Jonsson wrote:I am making a 2nd attempt to replace my cable modem/router today and tomorrow, so Jenkins may be unavailable for some time. Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,P.O. Jonssonoor...@jonases.se

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-29 Thread René Jansen
As NetRexx does; but the label is optional. > On 29 Mar 2023, at 17:18, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >> It's precious that Rexx allows identifying the END by naming the control >> variable. >> Does PL/I do likewise? > > No, PL/I does it better; a name on the end must match the label on the >

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-28 Thread René Jansen
cribing its > grammar without explaining their roles and why they are named what they are. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-28 Thread René Jansen
It is very probable that he only liked ALGOL 58 and ALGOL 60, for which he (and Jaap Zonneveld) made the first compiler (for the Electrologica X1), in an old school building in a small street, the Boerhaavestraat in Amsterdam, which I can see from my window across the river right now. The

Re: Code in Techdocs

2023-03-26 Thread René Jansen
Hi Ben-Avi, You can have a look here: https://github.com/IBM/CSM-Rexx-Collection and pull that to your own system. It is interesting that IBM recommends Regina and Brexx for other platforms instead of OoRexx which is a further development of their own Object Rexx product. best regards, René.

Re: GitHub Update - Arg!

2023-03-24 Thread René Jansen
Thanks Lionel, that was just in time! best regards, René. > On 24 Mar 2023, at 13:43, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > GitHub changed their RSA SSH Host Key and now there are issues. Here is > their announcement: > > https://github.blog/2023-03-23-we-updated-our-rsa-ssh-host-key/ > > This is what

Re: watching JIT generated machine instructions on z/OS

2023-03-23 Thread René Jansen
Thank you! Wonderful. This is probably the BCD Assist that is mentioned in https://www.websphereusergroup.co.uk/wug/presentations/40/Whats_new_In_IBM_Java_8.pdf . René. > On 23 Mar 2023, at 03:29, Andrew Rowley wrote: > > On 23/03/2023 11:39 am, David Crayford wrote: >> FYI, the OpenJ9 JIT

Re: watching JIT generated machine instructions on z/OS

2023-03-22 Thread René Jansen
be done, and the data will be in > the processor cache and so does not need to be read from RAM, or a > different book etc. > I found using a stack rather than a malloc in each function gave more > benefit than trying to polish the instructions. > Colin > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 17:03,

Re: watching JIT generated machine instructions on z/OS

2023-03-22 Thread René Jansen
in millicode and not silicone so is > a software implementation at heart. I would be surprised if it beats > BigDecimal on a PC but I could be wrong. > > On 23/3/23 00:42, René Jansen wrote: >> Without reading any documentation (sorry!), the issue at hand is this. I >> want to

watching JIT generated machine instructions on z/OS

2023-03-22 Thread René Jansen
without building it myself. Does anybody know how to ask the J9 (Java 8) on z/OS how to show me what it does when the JIT decides native code would be best? many thanks in advance, best regards, René Jansen. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Typst [non-mainframe]

2023-03-22 Thread René Jansen
Hi Charles, thank you very much for this link. As a user of XelaTeX I know what inspired this application and I am particularly interested in its incremental compilation capacity - comes very late because I used to have overnight compiles of certain document which went from 6 hours to 5

Re: Question for our international friends (mostly)

2023-03-17 Thread René Jansen
I’ve heard Germans say ‘six’; in Dutch we say ‘kicks’ like the Brits. René > On 17 Mar 2023, at 20:15, Phil Smith III wrote: > > How do you say "CICS"? In my experience, Americans mostly say > "see-eye-see-ess"; Brits say "kicks"; Canadians are a mixture; and Italians > say "cheeks" (which

Re: Ad TCP/Socket programs in REXX (Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-08 Thread René Jansen
> On 8 Mar 2023, at 04:39, David Crayford wrote: > > On 7/3/23 16:59, René Jansen wrote: >> On 7 Mar 2023, at 08:45, David Crayford > <mailto:dcrayf...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> The industry has spoken! Python is the most popular programming language in >&

Re: Ad TCP/Socket programs in REXX (Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-07 Thread René Jansen
On 7 Mar 2023, at 08:45, David Crayford wrote: > > The industry has spoken! Python is the most popular programming language in > the world so haters will have to just suck that up. That is a very funny statement. Nobody hates Python - the hype will blow over like Perl, Visual Basic, Ruby,

Re: how to determine if new DB2 ERLY code is in memory

2023-03-03 Thread René Jansen
As I remember it tells you in the SYSLOG. There was once an incident in which we had a slightly older production mainframe. DB2 tested swimmingly on dev, test and acc. But prod missed a couple of new instructions and then I found out only one copy of the ERLY code is loaded. You could use

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-02 Thread René Jansen
On 2 Mar 2023, at 13:36, David Crayford wrote: > > On 2/3/23 19:48, René Jansen wrote: >>> I think 99% of the folks on this forum want a language that can run in a >>> TSO/ISPF environment hosted in PDS data sets. Lua can do that and it's >>> orde

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-02 Thread René Jansen
> On 2 Mar 2023, at 11:49, David Crayford wrote: > > That shouldn't make any difference. SquareRoot is only called once. I had to > laugh when I noticed that it was implemented using Newton–Raphson in REXX. > How can a programming language not implement a sqrt() function? > You might want to

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-02 Thread René Jansen
190;5.009000;4;algorithm=base,faithful=yes,bits=1 > > ❯ go run . > Run for 5.0 seconds using 12 workers to builing a sieve up to 100... > Passes: 19506, Time: 5000 ms, Avg: 256336 ns/op, Limit: 100, Count1: > 78498, Count2: 78498, Valid: true > kpym-go-multi;19506;5.00

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread René Jansen
t as you see it is not really needed. We are not mandating anything, and if you want to run from a jar, that is fine. best regards, René. > On 1 Mar 2023, at 17:23, David Crayford wrote: > > On 2/3/23 00:20, René Jansen wrote: >> Well, it *is* an executable jar. Up to you. >

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread René Jansen
maybe I was not clear. it *is* an executable jar with the manifest built into it. > On 1 Mar 2023, at 17:52, David Crayford wrote: > > On 2/3/23 00:34, René Jansen wrote: >> Yes, I know. But linking to other code in .class files does. You can run >> NetRexx from the .jar

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread René Jansen
:23, David Crayford wrote: > > On 2/3/23 00:20, René Jansen wrote: >> Well, it *is* an executable jar. Up to you. > > Executable Jars don't require setting a CLASSPATH Rene > > >> >>> On 1 Mar 2023, at 17:17, David Crayford wrote: >>> >>

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread René Jansen
Well, it *is* an executable jar. Up to you. > On 1 Mar 2023, at 17:17, David Crayford wrote: > > Why doesn't it just use an executable jar and use "-jar"? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread René Jansen
.nrx to > name" > exit > fi > java $1 > fi > fi > > > >> On 1/3/23 22:35, René Jansen wrote: >>> by the way, thanks for that url. It seems my NetRexx smokes your Python >>> with numpy - had not

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread René Jansen
to verify on my PC but I found NetRexx to be hopeless on Linux. > I've added the /bin to my PATH but it's failing because it can't load the > NetRexxC classes even though I have set the /lib directory on my CLASSPATH. > Must be optimized for Windows weenies. > > On 1/3/23

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread René Jansen
by the way, thanks for that url. It seems my NetRexx smokes your Python with numpy - had not expected that. Note that NetRexx runs on z/OS and is well-maintained. ➜ solution_2 git:(drag-race) ✗ PrimeNetRexx.class joss_NetRexx;8766;5.000282;1;algorithm=base,bits=8,faithful=yes > On 1 Mar 2023,

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread René Jansen
t; emillynge_numpy; 6769;5.000584452878684;1;algorithm=base,faithful=no,bits=8 > > [1] https://github.com/PlummersSoftwareLLC/Primes > > On 1/3/23 20:52, René Jansen wrote: >> I agree with Rony. I think your ‘benchmarks’ are a bit synthetic but I >> understand your goal

Re: Mainframe REXX (Re: Badmouthing Rexx and ooRexx - again (Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-03-01 Thread René Jansen
I agree with Rony. I think your ‘benchmarks’ are a bit synthetic but I understand your goal. I think calling ISPF ‘a relic’ and constantly badgering Rexx does not serve any purpose in front of this audience, most of which see ISPF as something shiny and worthwhile (e.g. to have on OS VS2 r3.8

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread René Jansen
on a new, VM and bytecode based Rexx system. René. > On 28 Feb 2023, at 13:49, David Crayford wrote: > > On 28/2/23 20:41, René Jansen wrote: >> Depending on what you test and what you want to see of course. You did use >> the Rexx compiler? > > Yes, and the RE

Re: zOSMF and zOWE for non-mainframers

2023-02-28 Thread René Jansen
Depending on what you test and what you want to see of course. You did use the Rexx compiler? René. > On 28 Feb 2023, at 06:47, David Crayford wrote: > > On 25/2/23 01:23, Farley, Peter wrote: >> Python on the mainframe is pretty good, but still can't beat out Rexx in >> performance even

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Musings with tracing multithreaded ooRexx programs, mt91.rex: on two Rexx interpreter instances (RII)

2023-02-17 Thread René Jansen
One idea here is to no change the options of TRACE at all (they are very portable over variants). For implementations that have threads, why don’t we add a TRACE THREADS before the trace statement. We can have an TRACE THREADS OFF option to switch back to the regular trace. also, a TRACE

Re: [Oorexx-devel] The search order bug: a progress report, and some questions

2023-02-08 Thread René Jansen
file so I can put it somewhere where more people can look at it? best regards, René Jansen.___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Access to the builds

2023-02-06 Thread René Jansen
Hi Jon, done - if it does not work, let me know. best regards, René. > On 6 Feb 2023, at 09:54, Sahananda Sahananda wrote: > > Hi all, > > at some point my access to Jenkins which I set up in around 2015 has fallen > off. > > I have recreated my account - username: sahananda > >

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Last Artifact for 5.0.0 built

2023-01-26 Thread René Jansen
I have lightly tested the s390x portable build under docker versions of s390x/ubuntu and s390x/almalinux - both work. I think that we even can remove the ‘ubuntu’ segment of the name of the zip that contains the portable version. Next step should probably be to get the ooRexx builds in the

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Patch for revisionless package and "rexx -v" (meant for official release)

2023-01-06 Thread René Jansen
Hi Rony, with the remark that this version identifier is a revision number from a specific version management system (Subversion) and has proven difficult to reproduce in others. Also, it adds a build dependency that is only there for one reason (tho’ I built a few versions from my

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Short notice

2023-01-06 Thread René Jansen
Hi P.O., thanks for the heads up and the incredible amount of work you put into this! ooRexx 5.1.0 is happily humming on all my machines (and several customer machines also). best regards, René. > On 6 Jan 2023, at 11:55, P.O. Jonsson wrote: > > This is just to say that I need to take the

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Trademarks

2023-01-06 Thread René Jansen
“Open Object Rexx as legal successor and derivative work of Object Rexx” Having said that, I would like to flag this as a contentious subject, because solving this, IMHO, does not serve any useful purpose. Also, we have several jurisdictions, with you being in Austria, RexxLA being in North

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Trademarks

2023-01-06 Thread René Jansen
Hi Erich, IBM has stated to have transferred the trademarks to The Rexx Language Association. I have heard this statement in person from at least two different persons employed by IBM at the time, and in charge of Object Rexx. The document signed between RexxLA and IBM has (project phase II)

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Release of ooRexx 5

2022-12-28 Thread René Jansen
Not to beat the subject to death, but when it is moved to git, everybody has a full copy of everything - there is no ‘server part’ (in fact there is, a ‘bare’ repo without workspace) in a git server - every local repository has the full data including history, which gives me a much more secure

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Release of ooRexx 5

2022-12-23 Thread René Jansen
mobil/e) > >> Am 23.12.2022 um 23:50 schrieb René Jansen : >> >> Also, >> >> have a look at https://www.oorexx.org/index2.html - as soon as all the >> changed info is know, I can work on updating the rest of the site. >> >> best regards, >&

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Release of ooRexx 5

2022-12-23 Thread René Jansen
Also, have a look at https://www.oorexx.org/index2.html - as soon as all the changed info is know, I can work on updating the rest of the site. best regards, René. > On 23 Dec 2022, at 18:36, P.O. Jonsson wrote: > > In my opinion yes, I think we can deal with the details after the

Re: Markup languages

2022-12-22 Thread René Jansen
I have produced documents for years with xelatex and (lately) luatex (because, imho, those are the only solution that gives typographical freedom, and predictable, constant page layout, and optimal quality. I am keeping that setup probably forever, but am moving to Markdown and pandoc

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Are we good to announce the release by tomorrow (23rd) ?

2022-12-22 Thread René Jansen
+1 > On 22 Dec 2022, at 14:10, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: > > Assuming that the rebuilds of the release version of the documentation and > installation packages go well by tomorrow, I would propose to officially > declare the release final by then. > > This would allow us to announce the 5.0.0

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Wrong Apple version of ooRexx serviced by the Sourceforge website

2022-12-14 Thread René Jansen
I agree, and will enable some more admins of the SourceForge RexxLA repository, so we can do a release. This will mean we will not have to discuss this seemingly eternal issue here anymore, and the people that are worried by the label, can finally stop worrying. I think we owe that to ooRexx

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Ad "Sir Santa's Bag for 2022" ...

2022-12-10 Thread René Jansen
Me too. Let’s do it! René. > On 10 Dec 2022, at 18:21, P.O. Jonsson wrote: > > I am in favor of making an official release of ooRexx 5; It is building > without error on all platforms on Jenkins and with the exception of a few > glitches due to testing in a VM all tests pass on all

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

2022-11-18 Thread René Jansen
el (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > René Jansen [rene.vincent.jan...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 1:41 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTS

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

2022-11-18 Thread René Jansen
ZOC is the best! Scriptable in REXX! > On 18 Nov 2022, at 13:13, Joe Monk wrote: > > Dont forget ZOC! > > Joe > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 10:34 AM Sebastian Welton > wrote: -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

2022-11-18 Thread René Jansen
RMFIII is my main use case. Not supporting GDDM is a case of self-fulfilling prophecy. Quality of 3270 terminal emulators has been going down since CM/2, with lots of products having funny and off color schemes, no or wrong terminal status symbols, terribly mixed-up key definitions, the wrong

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

2022-11-17 Thread René Jansen
Just installed TNZ (on an M1 Mac) - looking good, and the more emulators the merrier. Thanks for posting this link, and the medium article, would not have found out how to disarm SSL on my own easily. I have to admit to mixed feelings seeing this: on the plus side, it is very good to release

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Jenkins

2022-11-14 Thread René Jansen
Well, the Rockhopper which ran the IBMZ Jenkins client is a Z12 running z/VM 6.4 running Ubuntu for Z. As soon as the electrical power prices normalize it will be switched on again - according to the owner - and we can have a look. As an alternative we can try QEMU and see what that does.René.On

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Jenkins update

2022-11-14 Thread René Jansen
Very good!René.On 13 Nov 2022, at 18:47, P.O. Jonsson wrote:We now have a Manjaro Linux client running on Raspberry Pi 3B+ (SoC Broadcom BCM2837B0  CPU ARM Cortex-A53). Build and test worked on the first try without errors. I only have to figure out how to build a package and we have support for

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-18 Thread René Jansen
I don’t know if someone on the assembler list mentioned this already, but https://idcp.marist.edu/documents/33945/44724/Assembler.V2.alntext+V2.00.pdf/ad61965e-8485-65e1-f385-e5cd56f08c63?t=1551806232272

Re: Ad 33rd Rexx Language Symposium coming up next week (September 12th - September 14th 2022)

2022-09-12 Thread René Jansen
symposium link. > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> on behalf of René Jansen > mailto:rene.vincent.jan...@gmail.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@

Re: [Oorexx-users] Variable value size limits

2022-09-12 Thread René Jansen
I would encourage you to find out. As far as I know, ooRexx (in the 64bit version) has 64 bits of addressing in Rexx strings. Your OS might limit this, and it will take some time to find out. best regards, René. > On 12 Sep 2022, at 09:42, Bertram Moshier wrote: > > Hello, > > I know

[Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Questions for relevant presenters

2022-09-08 Thread René Jansen
Here some questions from Seymour on the mainframe list. René. Begin forwarded message: > From: Seymour J Metz > Date: 7 September 2022 at 17:21:59 CEST > To: presid...@rexxla.org > Subject: Questions for relevant presenters > > I have some questions that I would like to submit to the

Re: IBM Redbook SG24-8205-06 - zPDT Guide

2022-09-07 Thread René Jansen
I am not sure that is good news. They must be more panicked than usual. > On 7 Sep 2022, at 16:18, Farley, Peter x23353 > <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I was told my application would be "moved into the approval queue" in > February 2022, but significant numbers

Re: Ad 33rd Rexx Language Symposium coming up next week (September 12th - September 14th 2022)

2022-09-07 Thread René Jansen
There is no registration required. RexxLA is free, but donations are accepted and appreciated. Daily links to the Zoom will be posted on the RexxLA mailing list and website. Questions can be asked in advance, address presid...@rexxla.org - there will be a Q

Re: SYSTEM REXX

2022-07-15 Thread René Jansen
Not official documentation, but we had an interesting presentation on System Rexx by Harris Morgenstern of the System Rexx team at the 2010 International Rexx Language Symposium. It is here: https://home.rexxla.org/presentations/2010/SysrexxSymposium2010.pdf

Re: Own your own Z13 and Z16

2022-07-01 Thread René Jansen
*that* is very funny coming from Lenovo. I want one with the Z Series instruction set. René. Sent from my iPad > On 1 Jul 2022, at 11:04, Mike Shorkend wrote: > > This really amused me > > > https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/thinkpadz?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F > > The

[Oorexx-devel] Announcing the 33rd International Rexx Language Symposium, 2022

2022-06-28 Thread René Jansen
o, new implementations will be discussed. Hope to see you all! Best regards, René Jansen, President, Rexx Language Association.___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel

[Oorexx-users] Announcing the 33rd International Rexx Language Symposium, 2022

2022-06-28 Thread René Jansen
o, new implementations will be discussed. Hope to see you all! Best regards, René Jansen, President, Rexx Language Association.___ Oorexx-users mailing list Oorexx-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-users

Re: [Oorexx-devel] [devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-23 Thread René Jansen
an -1.) When the numbers have > different signs, > a null input field is used when the beginning position is after the end > position: > | word 2;-2 1 > > Thus, your pipeline could eventually use > | : > | | specs 7;-2 1 > | : > | | specs 77;-10 1 > | : >

Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-22 Thread René Jansen
t mainframe personnel installing something by themselves >> is a sure way to be fired from the job. > > What happens if you ask for permission to install free downloads? > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > René

Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-22 Thread René Jansen
> P.O. Jonsson > oor...@jonases.se <mailto:oor...@jonases.se> > > > > >> Am 22.06.2022 um 15:58 schrieb René Jansen > <mailto:rvjan...@xs4all.nl>>: >> >> Hi P.O., >> >> It is embedded in a NetRexx program. As it does not have stems (but

Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-22 Thread René Jansen
Hi P.O., It is embedded in a NetRexx program. As it does not have stems (but indexed strings with [ ] I cannot specify a dot (but need not specify it either). I am tempted to try if Gil’s example works! René. > On 22 Jun 2022, at 14:24, P.O. Jonsson wrote: > > Off Topic: You have the stem

Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-22 Thread René Jansen
Hi David, Thanks to the pointers about the Rocket Python page being obsolete, > On 22 Jun 2022, at 13:29, David Crayford wrote: > > I don't share you pessimism about the young girls and boys. All the young > guys I work with are technically superb and extremely diligent. Not pessimistic at

Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-22 Thread René Jansen
ts to the >> website? alternatively, change the links to point to the built files? >> >> Along those lines... the oorexx product brochure is pretty badly out of date >> (touts the wonderful 32-bit implementations  ). Once 5.0 is GA the brochure >> really should be

Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-22 Thread René Jansen
Hi David, You did that to yourself; by going off into a discussion with Charles about his use of Rexx and assembler. Your company website says it best: "friendly for programmers who lack conventional mainframe language skills” (https://www.rocketsoftware.com/platforms/ibm-z/python-for-zos).

Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-21 Thread René Jansen
This from 2019. I will finish the website shortly. (This week). I am against a freeze, as I've got some changes in the works that I'd really like to get into the 5.0 release. Rick On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:46 AM René Jansen wrote: > I am for it, but I think it is up to Erich and R

Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-21 Thread René Jansen
hen I had to go without internet service for over 3 weeks. David's code had a lot of issues and needed a complete redo. There are no tests written for this and it will also need new documentation written. This will need to be snipped out of the trunk build and moved to a sandbox before a release candida

Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-21 Thread René Jansen
Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil (and Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone). > On 21 Jun 2022, at 13:57, René Jansen wrote: > > Hi Terry, > > I am happy that you are taking this up. Yes, there was a list some time ago; >

Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-21 Thread René Jansen
Hi Terry, I am happy that you are taking this up. Yes, there was a list some time ago; Jon and P.O. might have done better bookkeeping - I cannot find it now. From memory: 1) Website very outdated 2) Mac installer missing (now a dmg installer is there) 3) Some showstoppers yet (cannot

Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-20 Thread René Jansen
Charles, I take it you heard about System Rexx? René > On 20 Jun 2022, at 17:48, Charles Mills wrote: > > I *think* it would be possible to monitor the console ECB from Rexx, and > extract any MODIFY text -- you can do almost anything in Rexx with enough > C2D()'s -- but multiple levels

Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-20 Thread René Jansen
You can make that 'about 30 years ago' - time flies while we’re having fun. René. > On 20 Jun 2022, at 09:51, Colin Paice wrote: > > MQ from IBM developed about 20+ years ago helped get from Batch to real > time. You put messages to a queue, and it can run IMS transactions > (including

Re: [EXTERNAL] New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

2022-06-03 Thread René Jansen
riginal Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > René Jansen > Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 6:25 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing > > For those of us who are searching: shortu

Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

2022-06-03 Thread René Jansen
For those of us who are searching: shorturl.at/HNPQ9 > On 3 Jun 2022, at 13:20, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > I think y'all will enjoy this new blog > > https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck >

Re: [XeTeX] strange difference

2022-06-02 Thread René Jansen
Can the list master take action and inform the authorities? > On 2 Jun 2022, at 13:48, JW wrote:

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Jenkins

2022-04-21 Thread René Jansen
Hi P.O., For NetRexx, which is also built on this machine, there is no impediment to move to Java 11 or higher. Best regards, René. > On 21 Apr 2022, at 23:05, P.O. Jonsson wrote: > > I have just updated Jenkins Controller to the latest version and upgraded all > plugins and all went

Re: [EXTERNAL] z16 video

2022-04-06 Thread René Jansen
like UX where color would be beneficial > to the broadest segment of the market but contrasts are preferred for the > color blind > > I didn’t intend to go off topic. Ed’s suggestion was good. Choose the > interface that makes sense and not all of them have high fidelity. Such is

Re: [EXTERNAL] z16 video

2022-04-06 Thread René Jansen
I can sympathize because after 10 years in a Rolling Stones coverband I am also missing some of the high part of the frequency spectrum; also, I always have subtitles on because reading draws less cpu cycles (of the wetware) than listening; also you can do lots of other things while glancing at

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-18 Thread René Jansen
Hi Paul, ➜ test git:(master) ✗ cat stemcase.rexx /* rexx */ A. = "Preset" A.42 = "Answer" B. = A. /* Behaves differently in ooRexx. */ DROP A.45 SAY SYMBOL( 'A.45' ) /* Behaves differently in ooRexx. */ ➜ test git:(master) ✗ regina stemcase.rexx LIT ➜ test git:(master) ✗ rexx

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