Re: [OSM-talk-fr] tuiles abhérentes

These are left-overs from a major vandalism attack on OSM. Should disappear over time, when CyclOSM updates the tiles. Ce sont les restes d’une attaque de vandalisme majeure contre OSM. Doit disparaître avec le temps, lorsque CyclOSM met à jour les tuiles. See: https://en.osm.town/@osm_tech/112643

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature proposal - Tag:natural=wadi

The wadies I have encountered in the desert regions of the western US states seem all to have ephemeral borders. Every time water flows down the "border" changes. Also the center line in most cases is difficult to determine. BTW many of thr rivers here in Northern Italy that have their springs in t

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Deprecating demolished railway tags

I put a comment in the discussion page, which is a pointer to the outline of a counter-proposal. Please have a look. Thank you On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 05:31, Ewrt1 OSM wrote: > This proposal aims to deprecate all Demolished Railway tags. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Deprecatin

Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

Sett around here looks very similar. It wiggles when I am on a bike, and it's set in sand. On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 at 00:35, Yves via Tagging wrote: > Interesting, this could also be used to let water in the ground in order > not to cause subsidence by drying out the underground. Maybe we shouldn't

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

Could you give some more examples to illustrate what the problem is that you want to resolve. On Sun, 8 Oct 2023, 00:23 Kevin Kenny, wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 4:50 PM Andrew Hain > wrote: > >> I have started a new proposal: that the name tag should be restricted to >> the same meanin

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

Thinking about why people may be doing this, and based on recent experience: You come across a bicycle or hiking route sign "on the ground", but have no idea what relation it is referring to. So you tag it as name, just for the time being. Il giorno sab 31 dic 2022 alle ore 18:50 Anne- Karoline Di

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

different meaning, i.e. "oneway for vehicles". On Mon, 11 Sep 2023, 08:03 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging, < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Sep 10, 2023, 23:37 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > > > On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 01:25, Niels Elgaard Larsen > wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

Be careful: oneway=* is a legal access tag, only valid for vehicles, not for pedestrians. On Sat, 9 Sep 2023, 07:05 Andrew Harvey, wrote: > I have previously proposed the tag path=mtb > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Tag:path%3Dmtb as a way to > say it's a purpose built mountain bi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

This is a frequent tagging problem. bicycle=* , oneway=* , and oneway/bicycle=* are tags describing the legal access status. So does highway=path (it implies, in many jurisdictions, foot=yes and bicycle=yes). There is a way to indicate a route is a MTB route, and also that such route is technical

Re: [Tagging] Streets with gradually increasing widths

maxwidth is a legal limitation, typically signposted. width is used on barriers as physical width of the passage. maxwidth:physical is sometimes used to indicate the same concept on roads. width is used to indicate the physical width of the carriageway. It is typically used to indicate that a ve

Re: [Tagging] Streets with gradually increasing widths

Two points. (1) Do not redefine width as medium width. (2) Do not propose tagging of ways that does not survive splitting the way On Tue, 15 Aug 2023, 18:11 Sebastian Gürtler, wrote: > > Am 15.08.23 um 14:56 schrieb Greg Troxel: > > >> If there are no objections, I'lpl add a section about the

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

I read this discussion with interest (as end user) and ignorance router-wise. Some unsorted early-morning thoughts on this subject: When trying to reach a destination that is defined by a complete address (city, street name, house number or name) is that the last meters of the route are, potentia

Re: [Tagging] road accident memorials

In South America wayside crosses with artificial flowers and, often, a small mound, are very frequent. All the ones I looked at, were memorials for road accident victims. On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, 09:27 Marc_marc, wrote: > Le 11.06.23 à 13:29, Anne-Karoline Distel a écrit : > > https://www.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Plant_nursery (approved) On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 10:08, Anne- Karoline Distel wrote: > Landuse=forest plus start_date then maybe? That would imply their age. > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with WEB.DE Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > On 16/05/202

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

Ownership is not relevant if you think in terms of fixmystreet.. Just two extreme examples. - The Italian Motorway network is owned by the Italian via a state-majority public company, and operated by several different private or state-owned companies that to all effects own specific parts

Re: [OSM-talk] edits made by National Trust staff

An interesting discussion, which I think is not specific or limited to the NT in the UK. The correct handling of proposed, planned, or under-condtruction features is for example something that I have encountered with cycle routes in Italy. So please keep on this list. On Mon, 3 Apr 2023, 13:17 ,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [édition mécanique] sidewalk=none -> sidewalk=no en France

C'est un tag fréquent: taginfo 200k Pourquoi l'éliminer en France ? On Wed, 15 Mar 2023, 07:55 Cyrille37 OSM, wrote: > Bonjour, > > On 15/03/2023 01:29, Marc_marc wrote: > > je propose l'édition de masse suivante : > > remplacement de sidewalk=none par sidewalk=no > > sur les objets way ayant un

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] besoin d'aide

En 2016 j'ai fait les 4000km de la Route 66 en vélo et avais chargé la carte de toute la route sur un Garmin etrex 30. La carte était du site velomap.org, et j'avais cinque micro-SD avec des parcours partielles pour ne pas avoir des problèmes de performance. La sous-division je l'avais fait avec Ga

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Area pour trottoirs

Le wiki propose area:highway=footway plus highway=footway Je ne comprends pas la raison du "layer=-1" Volker Il giorno gio 2 feb 2023 alle ore 18:23 Marc_marc ha scritto: > Le 02.02.23 à 18:01, Lamourec Alain a écrit : > > https://www.o

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

y traversable >>>> (mountable) dome or island." >>>> >>>> As it is traversable, does it really have a diameter? Or, if there is a >>>> painted circle (are traversable domed area) on the ground, perhaps that >>>> has >>>&

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

I do have a typical traversable roundabout close by. hgv=no is not correct, there are commercial activities around that need hgv access. The roads are adequate for that The angle between incoming roads is not a suitabla measure, as the traversable roundabout has a circular "belly", providing addit

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

The mm is because it's intended do describe water tubes and pipe threads, and not roads. That is why I have doubts using it for the mini-roundabout. On Sat, 28 Jan 2023, 09:20 Mark Reidel, wrote: > On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 00:53 +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > What I am after

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

that triggered the question is this one <https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1288570081954544>, and it has a diameter of about 12m, and, yes, it is a mini-roundabout. Volker Il giorno ven 27 gen 2023 alle ore 22:35 Florian Lohoff ha scritto: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 09:2

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

eter? Or, if there is a > painted circle (are traversable domed area) on the ground, perhaps that has > a diameter, but does it matter to any prospective map user? > > Regards, > Peter > > Peter Neale > t: 01908 309666 > m: 07968 341930 > > > On Wednesday, 2

[Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

Is there an established way to tag the diameter of a mini-roundabout? We have the tag diameter, but I could not find it applied to mini-roundabouts. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

Hi François, Il giorno gio 12 gen 2023 alle ore 19:44 François Lacombe < fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Hi Volker, > > Le jeu. 12 janv. 2023 à 12:02, Volker Schmidt a > écrit : > >> The present vs future tagging table is flawed. >> The landuse column

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

The present vs future tagging table is flawed. The landuse column shows values that are rarely used. Industrial=water (500 uses) in practice is tagged as man_made=water_works (30k+ uses). "sewerage" land use exists and is in practice tagged as man_made=wastewater_plant (75k uses). Generally speaki

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

I would say that storage tanks, as default, are closed. So a man_made=storage_tank in OSM is closed. Secondly if a tank is closed (at the top), this is called a roof. There are fixed roofs and floating roofs. See as an example this manufacturer's web site: https://www.wermac.org/equipment/storage_t

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] mini giratoires et ronds-points traversants : crossing_strip ?

En GB, si je touche la ligne centrale du mini-roundabout j'échoue à l'examen de conduite. Est que je vous comprends bien, vous dites ici qu'en France il y un type de rond-point légalement attraversable? On Sat, 7 Jan 2023, 12:18 Christian Rogel, wrote: > > Le 7 janv. 2023 à 08:04, lejun a écrit

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a point-of-interest sign

by a local prankster, but this one seems right. > > On 12/29/22 11:52, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I have now checked on Gmaps: that sign is not on the continental divide, > but it is announcing the continental divide. About 175m further there is an > identical sign on the other side o

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

I know this problem from cycle routes. Individual ways that are part of a hiking or cycling route should normally not carry the name of the route. First because in most cases it will be factually wrong, but also such invented names will make it difficult to find ways with genuinly missing names in

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a point-of-interest sign

Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > This example should also be mapped as a pass, with a node tagged > mountain_pass=yes on the highway, with the elevation > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 2:26 PM Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> I would like to tag signs that do

[Tagging] How to tag a point-of-interest sign

I would like to tag signs that do refer to Points of Interest like this example ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Accessibilité d'une ville : recommandations

J'ai un peu perdu le fil de la discussion. - Cette entreprise regarde seulement les bâtiments ou aussi les trottoirs, les parcours mixtes piétons/vélo et les passages piétons ? - Pour mesurer les pentes, il te faut un inclinomètre. Volker Il giorno dom 11 dic 2022 alle ore 23:30 Christi

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Photos pour Wheelmap ou OSM

J'utilise de routine Mapillary pour mapper pour le vélo sur OSM. Alessandro Saretto l'ha utilisé a Padoue pour son projet d'accessibilitée. Les images sont sous licence CC-BY-SA. Comme ça vont bien pour situations à l'exterieur. La situation è diverse pour les espaces intériereurs, mais ça vaut po

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Accessibilité d'une ville : recommandations

Je pense que Mapillary pourrait être très utile dans ce contexte. Je l'utilise pour documenter l'infrastructure pour vélo, y inclus les barrières architectoniques sur les parcours. L'insertion des données je la fais a temps différé à base des images Mapillary directement avec JOSM sur le calculateu

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Crossing cleanup and deprecation

This proposal is incorrectly giving the impression that it is in the spirit of the crossing:markings tag. This tag was meant to complement and refine the existing tagging of crossings in some cases, but certainly not to replace, wholesale the "crossing" key The crossing:markings key describes the p

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

Most of the highway objects along waterways around here (Po Valley, Northern Italy) that are not open to public motor traffic, and wide enough for dual-track vehicles, are, in my view correctly, tagged as highway=track. They are used for waterway maintenance and for agricultural purposes on the ad

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

Just to make the list complete: Around here (or at least in my city and nearby towns) we have regular open air markets with assigned locations for specific stalls. Do we already have a mapping approach to that type of stalls? (I couldn't find one). If we really don't have one already, it might be w

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - historic

I think the best way out is to think detached from the meaning of the strings of characters we use for tagging. Let's document that we have have certain values for the key "historic" that describe objects that are not historic, and not even old. After all the purpose of the wiki is to describe the

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

I would like to contribute to this discussion my, maybe subjective, impression that we have an inflation of proposals. Many of them are interesting, others look less so. In any case, personally I have de facto stopped contributing to these proposals for simple lack of time. I also would like to add

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Accessibilité d'une ville : recommandations

Daniel, Alessandro Saretta a fait un projet a Padoue. L'a presenté al SOTM de Heidelberg en 2019: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3370705 Volker (Padoue, Italie) On Thu, 20 Oct 2022, 12:11 Daniel Garcia, wrote: > Bonjour, > > Le conseil municipal de ma ville souhaite effectuer des actions liée

Re: [Tagging] dinosaurs

Do you have a feeling how many "archeologic" sites in OSM are in reality palaeontological? I fear this is a frequent error, but difficult to spot. On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, 17:33 Anne-Karoline Distel, wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm doing a huge tidy-up amongst the values for "site_type", documented > in

Re: [Tagging] Hvad stiller vi op med tour de France ruterne?

On Sat, 15 Oct 2022, 20:02 Marc_marc, wrote: > Hello, > > Le 15.10.22 à 18:55, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > > ( > > It is certainly not something that can be represented > > by a bicycle route relation. > > witch issue did you see ? > It's not signposted

Re: [Tagging] Hvad stiller vi op med tour de France ruterne?

(using Google's English translation of the Danish text) In addition a bicycle route has to be signposted. I doubt that the the fact that the TdF in a given year ran over a certain set of roads is something that is to be inserted in a geographical database, as is OSM. It is certainly not something

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

The parcel locker that I use is both for picking up goods and for returning goods. I presume that this is the standard functionality for parcel lockers. Il giorno sab 15 ott 2022 alle ore 17:46 Illia Marchenko < illiamarchenk...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > сб, 15 окт. 2022 г

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

enk...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > сб, 15 окт. 2022 г., 11:41 Volker Schmidt : > >> Around here we have many instances of self-service parcel-locker inside a >> shop that is inside a building. The shop does not occupy the entire >> building, the locker is only

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

Around here we have many instances of self-service parcel-locker inside a shop that is inside a building. The shop does not occupy the entire building, the locker is only accessible during shop opening times. There are also pick-up points in shops where a human being handles the operation (I know

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, 09:16 Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > in Italy, one and two cent coins have been abolished, they are not > accepted any more in shops, and while prices are still ending mostly with > 9, the sum gets rounded. > OT for this discussion: Where I live in Italy, one and two €cent c

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Tag capacity on benches without separation or not?

Can we not finish this useless discussion? The amenity=bench tag was created just for that purpose, benches. Some time later someone created the key seats to indicate how many people can sit on a bench, adding explicitly that the key capacity should not be used in that case. The addition that key s

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

A practical comment from an end user: it is helpful to know if a drinking-water point can be used to fill water bottles. Bubblers are tricky in that regard. BTW: a shower in many parts of the world may not "waste" drinking water, for example by using rain water. On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 13:47 Warin, <

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 12:20 Marc_marc, wrote: > imho only one main feature/objet : the stream bed > and car use it, a bit like a bicycle uses a road. > OT, but I cannot let it pass: Roads, in most cases, are dedicated to vehicles (including bicycles), pedestrians, horse riders, ..., unless there ar

Re: [Tagging] Can we assume surface=cobblestone:flattened to be an exact duplicate of surface=sett?

Sett <-> flattened cobblestone: Sett are roughly rectangular blocks, hewn from big blocks of stone (granite or basalt). Flattened cobblestones are made from roughly round cobblestones by flattening the part that faces the road surface. Cobblestones and pebbles are essentially the same: pebblestones

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

Preliminary remark: I have walked and hiked, done a couple of via ferrata, but so far only heard of scrambled eggs. My only source is the Wikipedia article on "scrambling". I have detected that in fact I have done some scrambles. Two of them close by. I went back to the tagging and they are tagge

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Itinéraire vélo non balisé

Cette discussion se fait à intervalles sur les différentes listes et forums de OSM. Au momen , il y a une tendance à ne pas insérer comme relations des itinéraires pour bicyclette ou à pieds non-balisés, sauf pour les itinéraires en phase de projet définitif et pour lesquels est prévu le balisage a

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Bonnes pratiques pour la délimitation des landuse et autres natural ?

Ou de l'incompétence de ceux qui ont importé les Landcover Corinne (je > parlerais plus de choix discutable). > Avec CORINE il y a un problème de base: les données se basent sur des images satellitaires de résolution insuffisante pour OpenStreetMap: *CLC1990* *CLC2000* *CLC2006* *CLC2012* *CLC201

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Bonnes pratiques pour la délimitation des landuse et autres natural ?

Merci, Stéphane. J'avais décrit seulement ma malaise quand je dois ajouter le cyclables. Naturellement il y a des problèmes bien plus de principe, comme les dimensions et les formes des landuse. On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 at 20:58, Stéphane Péneau wrote: > Salut, > > Lorsque je rencontre des landuses c

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Bonnes pratiques pour la délimitation des landuse et autres natural ?

Je suis dans le "métier" des voies cyclables, lesquelles souvent, en un premier instant sont taggués sur la route avec cycleway=track. Dans une deuxième phase on ajoute la cyclable comme way séparé et les landuse attaqués à la route te rendent fou. Et on peut aussi penser à ajouter des guardrails o

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Flopées de highway=pedestrian qui n'en sont pas

Une réponse étrangère: En Italie on utilize de routine - area=yes - highway=pedestrian et on ajoute des - highway=footway pour le routing. Voir https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian#Squares_and_plazas Attention: " Also other paths such as highway

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Route des Vins d'Alsace dupliquée

sont très souvent les mêmes dont un > > certain Denis auteur d'une des deux. > > > > Peut-être que ceux qui maintiennent la relation abusent des boissons > > fermentées sur le parcours et trouvent que deux c'est mieux. > > > > Il y a peut-être une subtilit

[OSM-talk-fr] Route des Vins d'Alsace dupliquée

Bonjour. Voici mon premier post sur la liste française OSM. Je suis un mappeur OSM allemand de Padoue en Italie. Par hasard j'ai remarqué qu'il existe deux relations apparemment identiques pour la Route des Vins d'Alsace: relations 1116830 et 214415

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - guard stone

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 01:02 Paul Allen, wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 23:34, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > (perhaps the duck principle could be applied: it looks like a guardstone, >> it keeps the wheels on the road like a guard stone, hence it can tagged as >> a guard ston

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - guard stone

I forgot to follow up on two other aspects of this, sorry. A) how are they tagged when two of them are on both sides of a gate ? B) There are occasionally also rows of them in historic towns

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reservoirs, lakes, and ponds

eetmap.org> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 09:02, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> >> That we will have to live with two tags, or more, for the same thing is >> nothing new, what I don't like is to be pestered continuously to do things >> to objects that happen to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reservoirs, lakes, and ponds

r they the new tagging is better in some way.. On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 16:59, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 15:29, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> >> >> >> In addition, please consider that deprecated features are being flagged >> by editor sw on >&g

Re: [Tagging] Continuous shoulder rumble strips (CSRS)

ps in the US. On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 22:02, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jeremy Harris wrote: > >> On 20/12/2020 16:07, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> > Is there a tagging scheme for these bicycle killers >> > <https://www.m

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

Martin, the former ones ( http://www.valsassinanews.com/image/original/12663.jpg ) are "tables" ( traffic_calming=table) in OSM-speak - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming. I was referring to the latter ones as sau

[Tagging] Continuous shoulder rumble strips (CSRS)

Is there a tagging scheme for these bicycle killers ? I have encountered them on freeways and other major roads that allow cyclists, in the western States of the USA. In theory there should be no problem, as the cyclist is supposed to be on

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

These objects need a new tag, not a sub-tag of traffic_calming=bump (220k uses), for the simple reason that it has a different effect on the road users. I have myself tagged many such sausage-shaped bumps with traffic_calming=bump and no sub-tag. They slow down every vehicle, but are not as partic

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reservoirs, lakes, and ponds

383 813 *landuse* *reservoir* 334 450 *water* *reservoir* I think it does make no sense

Re: [Talk-it] Tags per cycleway

Prima reazione a caldo: sicuramente sbagliato che il segno nella foto in Italia implica l'uso pedonale, al contrario. - bicycle =designated corretto - foot

Re: [Tagging] Rapids (whitewater) on rivers

There are area hazards around, like shooting ranges, and high electric fields around radio transmitters, and more likely others. I am not insisting on using the hazard key - I only noted similarities. On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 17:33, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Another argument against use of hazard

Re: [Tagging] cable:ferry

What is missing in the route=ferry tagging is any way of indicating the ferry type and/or size in general. That would include a reaction ferry, amongst others On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 09:36, joost schouppe wrote: > Hi, > > This article https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dferry > mentio

Re: [Tagging] Rapids (whitewater) on rivers --> Hazards

ered, or offering new proposals to expand the > usage. > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM ael via Tagging > wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:22:44PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> > I see this subject directly related to the "hazard" discussion

Re: [Tagging] Rapids (whitewater) on rivers

I see this subject directly related to the "hazard" discussion in the sense that I suggested to clearly define the difference between signposted hazards/dangers/warnings and un-signed such situations that are observable on the ground, and therefore are subject also to personal judgement. With other

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC 2 - Pumping proposal

My main point got lost: the proposal should explain how the mapping of pumps in pumping stations should be handled, short of using indoor mapping, especially as your cover photo shows an indoors pump in an industrial building. On Mon, 14 Dec 2020, 00:40 Brian M. Sperlongano, wrote: > François,

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC 2 - Pumping proposal

Missing at first glance: what is the mapper expected to do with pumping stations. We have around here in the Po valley, thousands of them for draining purposes., and I presume that places like the Netherland have considerably more of them. Many are housed in dedicated and locked buildings and they

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - crossing=priority

In principle a good idea. In the jurisdictions I am familiar with, any marked pedestrian crossing gives priority to pedestrians over the traffic on the crossed road. Unmarked crossing (no vertical sign, no horizontal sign) means no priority. And each country has developed their own tagging on how t

Re: [Talk-it] Laguna di Venezia verso Chioggia davanti Codevigo lungo la Romea

ma forse è il caso di spezzarlo prima di aggiungere > dettagli. > > > [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3049430 > > Il 11/12/20, Volker Schmidt ha scritto: > > E' un vecchio problema nella Laguna che alcuni pezzi della coast line non > > sono corrette. L'avevo

Re: [Talk-it] Due punti sulla mappa...

Chi fa il ripristino della A31 danneggiata (la parte esistente)? A parte questo. Mi sembra che il nostro tagging ha una strana asimmetria. Per *un way* (per esempio un pezzo di strada) abbiamo tre stati: - esistente, - construction, - proposed Sarebbero desiderabili - esistente fi

Re: [Talk-it] Laguna di Venezia verso Chioggia davanti Codevigo lungo la Romea

E' un vecchio problema nella Laguna che alcuni pezzi della coast line non sono corrette. L'avevo segnalato anni in dietro. Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - barrier:guard_stone

My apologies, wrong link! The corner guard stone is here: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/USu9htX8nw95mW77kSeZ7Q Volker On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 23:40, Alan Mackie wrote: > > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 17:03, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> My gard stone example on a buildi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - barrier:guard_stone

My gard stone example on a building corne is also useful for this part of the discussion. I know the place well and I know the local amateur history expert, and we talked about this specific stone, and also asked about its historic value. It

Re: [Tagging] Many historic=wayside_cross are not historic

likely sits on top of a Roman shrine for the local water goddess. My real question is: Am I correct that this is the accepted tagging after all, and that's it? On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 23:46, Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 22:33, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> I am sure some

[Tagging] Many historic=wayside_cross are not historic

I am sure someone has made this observation before me: Many historic=wayside_cross and historic=wayside_shrine are not historic objects in the sense of the definition of the wiki page Historic which reads: "The historic

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - barrier:guard_stone

Yes, that tag is a good idea. But, it is not a barrier on the way, but a single object off the way. Normally, but not always they come in pairs, but it does not always come in pairs. They are often corner stones. When there is a pair, i.e. one on each side, it would make sense to see it as a barrie

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

Traffic lights triggered by avalanches! Is that close enough, Martin? https://elearning.unipd.it/scuolaamv/pluginfile.php/19629/mod_resource/content/1/04_02%20difesa%20dalla%20valanghe.pdf I remember I saw them for the first time in 1985 in the Val Zoldana, Provincia di Belluno (SP251), but had n

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

Hi, I have been following this proposal with interest. I often have tried to tag hazards, and not found a good ways of doing it. We are now compiling a long list of hazards, including golf players crossing the road, but I see some basic aspects which are not being addressed (unless I missed somethi

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

There is another problem with animal paths completely apart from permissions: they may lead you to nowhere. (years back I nearly got lost in a labyrinth of footpaths in the dense macchia in Corsica. They were well visible and wide, but just high enough to walk for children, and were actually trodde

Re: [Talk-it] [Proposal] [RFC] import of new cycle paths of Città Metropolitana di Bologna

Io ho trovato Mapillary uno strumento molto utile per documentare la ciclabilità per un successivo inserimento in OSM. E l'ho utilizzato per diverse centinaia di km di infrastruttura ciclabile. Mi viene spontaneo di suggerire di combinare i dati del Comune di Bologna e il metodo Mapillary, ovvero

[Tagging] Segregated foot-cycle path with different surfaces

How do I correctly tag this way: OSM way 434742113 , Mapillary image It's a segregated bidirectional foot-cycleway: highway=path bicycle=designated foot=designated segregated=yes onewy=no Its ove

Re: [Talk-it] [Proposal] [RFC] import of new cycle paths of Città Metropolitana di Bologna

Ciao, sono interessato in questo lavoro, ma sono sono di Padova. Ho inserito parecchi percorsi ciclabili a Padova. E il mio interesse è come viene fatto altrove. Prima domanda: Parliam do infrastruttrura ciclistica (piste e corsie ciclabili) o di percorsi (itinerari) cicloturistici, come dai titol

Re: [Talk-it] Pubblicazione fotografie e riferimenti negli oggetti OSM

Per quanto riguarda foto Mapillary, di cui sono un massiccio produttore e consumatore (per mappare dettagli in OSM che sono rilevanti in primo luogo per il traffico in bicicletta, non ho mai neanche pensato di inserire riferimenti a immagini specifici. Mapillary lo cito come source nei changeset.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Cycle Route Relations vs. Ways

The ways making up a cycle route typically have names themselves, and the Route name normally is not the name of the way, Hence in many cases this would be a mapping error, i.e. the name of the way is not correctly tagged in the database. There may be exceptions to this general, abstract statement

Re: [Tagging] Defining the meaning of capacity tag for tourism=camp_site

Looks like a good idea. In that context: When travelling with a bike and a small tent (applies equally to hikers) I have encountered the following issues: - camp sites that do not accept small tents - they only have places for caravans and large tents. - camp sites that do have areas de

Re: [Talk-it] part-time traffic signals

Grazie - mi era sfuggito On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 at 11:39, scratera wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_signals > > > > -- > Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Italy-General-f5324174.html > > ___ > Talk-it mailing list > Talk-it

[Talk-it] part-time traffic signals

In alcuni posti abbiamo semafori part-time. Mi vengono in mente due casi: - un incrocio con tram: si accende solo quando arriva un tram - uscita pompieri: lampeggiante, diventa rosso quando escono i pompieri come si fa? Volker ___ Talk-it mailing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

I am confused on what the tag electricity= is intended for. You say in the first of the two proposals: " The parent key electricity would be used to tag the availabilty and source of electricity, i.e. whether a building or amenity has electrici

Re: [Talk-it] Po Valley??

L'utente che ha inserito il PO Valley è lo stesso che ha tentato di eliminare la regione geografica italiana (frattempo re-reverted) Hp paura che sia meglio di utilizzare la diplomazia prima che questo diventa una editing war prolungata. Volker On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 15:34, Alessandro Barbieri wr

Re: [Tagging] What does bicycle=no on a node means?

Martin, please do not even think about deprecating a tagging that is heavily used.like highway=crossing with bicycke=no|yes|dismount I am already ignoring the frequent JOSM Warning about the deprecated crossing=island which JOSM shows me everytime I download a stretch of road that contains this tag

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