Hi Michael,
> > > The reason I enquire is that both the Mac OS X port and (IIRC) the
> > > Windows port are multithreaded, with a GUI thread and an emulator
> > > thread. What I'd like to be able to do is have the GUI perform a
> > > hard reset of the emulator by having the child emulator thread
Hi Peter,
> I don't seem to have admin access to the mailing lists - Ralph, can
> you turn off non subscriber posting to the list, or something else?
Done. Sorry for the delay, I'm in the process of moving house.
Cheers,
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Hi Jasper,
> whats going on with regards to arcem?
Not a lot here. I moved house, finally, a month ago and am dealing with
the fall-out plus financial year end stuff.
Once that's cleared I hope to spend some more time on it.
Cheers,
Ralph.
Hi Daniel,
> I am writing a RISC OS filing system (and accompanying module for
> filer icon of course), and code to go in arcem that makes it work. The
> purpose of it is to give access to linux directories from within RISC
> OS running on arcem. (Linux is the only platform I have to code on,
>
Hi Peter/Matthew,
Peter Naulls wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Matthew Howkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am not sure how best to add the Module source to the CVS
> > repository, because BASIC files are binary, and don't lend
> > themselves to CVS diff showing changes ea
Hi,
Matthew wrote:
> I have now added this sound support code to CVS.
Thanks for your efforts in applying the patches. I don't think anyone
else has time at the moment.
> The sound support is disabled by default - I have added an option to
> the Makefile that can be used to enable it. I have d
Hi Rob,
> Out of interest, how many people still read this list?
http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=36764 gives subscriber counts. Bear in
mind some people are subscribed more than once in order to post from different
addresses; you can turn delivery off for some addresses.
arcem-cvs
Hi Rob,
> > > Also, what does it take, other than sexual favours, to get added
> > > to the CVS commiters?
> >
> > A SourceForge user name? :-)
>
> 'rjek' :)
Done.
Cheers,
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Hi guys,
Can you take this conversation to the arcem-devel list please? It would
be nice for people to hear what's going on, and the archives will let
others catch up in the future.
Perhaps even consider re-sending your few emails so far there.
Cheers,
Ralph.
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Hi Matthew,
Off-list you wrote:
> I have also been experimenting with implementing networking in a
> couple of different ways: Either emulating a real network card (an
> Ether1 looks promising), or writing a RISC OS module that implements
> DCI4, and passes network packets directly to the Host. I
Hi Rob,
> > I'd prefer emulating a real network i/f podule since that would
> > support other OS better, e.g. NetBSD.
> >
> > http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/acorn26/
> >
> > I think it would be nice for arcem to continue to support
> > Linux/ARM26 and NetBSD would be nice to add.
> >
> > Howe
Hi Michael,
> Perhaps then it's time to fork some stuff then.
Can we avoid top-posting on this list please.
> Perhaps there even needs to be some kind of fork - a pure version of
> ArcEm and a RISC OS enhanced version.
That's a daft a reason as suggesting the Mac OS version should be a
fork, a
Hi Ian,
> Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> > Can we avoid top-posting on this list please.
>
> Can we avoid CCing everyone on everything if we're also using the
> list? :-)
:-) I did consider it before sending the email but a quick scan of the
subscribers list suggested that
Hi Michael,
> Okay, I think Ralph missed my point. I'm not proposing a Mac OS X only
> fork,
I didn't think you were, it was an example of a similarly poor reason to
fork arcem.
> but rather a way of handling the difference between "pure" emulation
> of the hardware and a version of ArcEm that
Hi Michael,
> So chatting to Peter it appears that half the list has been left out
> on some private discussion as to how and why things are done in ArcEm.
Good news is the arcem-devel list has 25 subscribers now. Bad news is
the off-list emails were circulating around about four of us so more
Hi Ianm
> > There's an arcem-cvs list
>
> ...which won't send me an email to join.
> I've tried to join twice now. No email. :-(
Strange. I've just used the web interface to subscribe another one of
my email addresses and the `do this to complete subscription' email
turned up in a couple of
Hi Ian,
> I suggest you wait until tomorrow and if still no joy then I can add
> you through the admin. interface. If anyone else has problems with
> the lists, pipe up.
Further to that, here's the current list of subscribers.
arcem-cvs at rjek.com
arcemcvs.howkins at marutan.net
a
Hi Peter,
> Does anyone have a blank (or even full) ST506 disk image to that they
> could put up for download somewhere. (and also the lines from their
> .arcemrc for configuring it).
No, but can't you just create a file of zeros the right size and run
HForm on it under the emulator? For a 20Mi
Hi,
Peter Howkins wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 10:18:59AM +, Daniel Clarke wrote:
> > I was wondering whether it was a good idea to add to the pathname
> > conversion code a case for spaces, linux real space <=> riscos
> > pseudo space. Otherwise, filenames with spaces become inaccessible
Hi Matthew,
> PS Anyone know why my CVS commit generated so many postings to the
> arcem-cvs mailing list?
Commits under CVS aren't `atomic'. That's long been stated as a CVS
flaw since if something goes wrong half-way through then your changes
can be half-committed. It does it a directory at
Hi Ian,
> That list is screwed anyway. I, and others, cannot subscribe.
After I heard nothing more from you I assumed you'd subscribed. I've
now tried subscribing from three different emails dotted around the
Internet. All worked as expected. I'm filling in the
http://lists.sourceforge.net/l
Hi,
I wrote:
> After I heard nothing more from you I assumed you'd subscribed. I've
> now tried subscribing from three different emails dotted around the
> Internet. All worked as expected. I'm filling in the
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/arcem-cvs form.
>
> Is the symptom jus
Hi Peter,
> http://www.home.marutan.net/arcempage/index.html
Couple of minor comments.
http://www.home.marutan.net/arcempage/arcemsshot-thumb.png is 111597
bytes for a 200 by 157 image. It's smaller as a raw PNM. :-) I guess
it just doesn't compress well with PNG. A JPEG came out as 8868 by
Hi Chris,
> > You'd find it much easier to keep up with the other changes when
> > it's in CVS. Basically you need a Sourceforge username, and for
> > Ralph or Peter N to add you to the list of developers that can
> > commit changes to ArcEm. Can you let me know if you've used CVS
> > before, as
Hi Chris,
> Can anything be done about this mailing list so it adds a reply-to
> header? No amount of hacking and changing mailers at this end can get
> it to reply to the list automatically.
What's the problem exactly? Just asking my email client to reply to
your message got me
To: Chris
Hi Peter,
> - After making changes and checking in, use sftp/scp to upload the
> pages you change to the sourceforge shell account as we currently do
> to edit pages.
How about the webpages having a makefile with a target `install' that
uploads just the right files. It could grow to do other th
Hi Peter,
> "Chris Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is probably a bit OT, but I'm curious as to how you go about
> > installing ARM Linux on a blank HD image? Is it available as floppy
> > disc images?
>
> In short, you'd mount it as a loopback device under a real Linux
> system, and
Hi,
Can anyone remind me where arcem handles endianess, e.g. when storing
words and then loading bytes. I've had a quick look but can't remember
enough to locate it.
Cheers,
Ralph.
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Hi Dave,
> This took me a few minutes to remember - the simple answer is it
> avoids it for everything internal.
>
> The memory is represented by a *word* array (MEMC.PhysRam) that gets
> accessed by normal C array operations and is thus held in host
> endianness.
Yep, saw that bit.
> Byte acc
Hi Chris,
> However, after about one flash of the RISC OS cursor, the emulator
> appears to freeze. It appears to still be running as everything else
> slows down as if CPU time is being used.
On Unix, you can get a `CPU %' reading of processes with `ps xu'.
Perhaps the Amiga has ways of monito
Hi Jeffrey,
Thanks for your Qt and Zaurus work. As Peter said, if you'd like
SourceForge CVS check-in access, give me a username. Or leave Peter to
look through the ZIP file you provided if you prefer.
> If I'm reading this documentation right, it looks like QEMU goes about
> things in a bit o
Hi Michael,
> I am a student at the University of Manchester and as part of a
> project, I am extending the Java Dynamic Binary Translator Pearcolator
> (pearcolator.sourceforge.net) to support the ARM instruction set.
> Sorry to start my first posting to your list with a question, but it
> would
Hi Michael,
> Currently, Pearcolator simulates a linux environment by intercepting
> system calls and handling these, as if the binary was running on
> linux.
Right, that's like qemu's "user emulation" IIRC.
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/status.html
> However, I would like to extend
Hi Patrick,
Sorry for the delay; had paperwork deadlines. I suspect we're getting
more into developer territory below, so I'm CC-ing
arcem-devel@lists.sourceforge.net as there's more people on the list and
they'll know the code changes that have gone on. I have set the
reply-to for there rathe
Hi Patrick,
> > 1. The whole emulation is running too fast. I need to slow it down.
> > 2. I need to get a fullscreen of the ELITE game and/or ArcEm
> > desktop.
Another option would be to look at one of the later emulators. There's
Arculator and RPCemu. I don't know much about them, e.g. how
Hi Peter,
> The ArcEm CVS has been static for quite some time.
Last change 2009-09-25?
> The last post to the ArcEm mailing list is more recent, but still over
> a year ago. In any case, Arculator
> (http://b-em.bbcmicro.com/arculator/) is probably a superior emulator.
> However, what I don't
Hi Theo,
> The only likely problem is if SF cancels the project for being
> dormant.
Anyone have a link to their procedure in that case?
> They threatened to do that to a project I did, last update 2003, but
> the website is still there (I didn't use their CVS). It requires
> someone being ale
Hi Peter,
> > > The ArcEm CVS has been static for quite some time.
> >
> > Last change 2009-09-25?
>
> Sorry yes. "cvs log" does things in a unhelpful order. I've been
> using SVN too long.
Yes, I found it annoying when I went to look.
$ cvs log |
> sed '/^date: /!d; s#/.. .*##; s/.
Hi Chris,
> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:26:31 -0700, Peter Naulls wrote:
> > What I'll likely do then is close down the Sourceforge page. I'll
> > import the ArcEm CVS into riscos.info SVN for historic value (if
> > anyone really wants write access, just let me know a user
> > name/password). It's p
Hi Chris,
> Would anyone object if I added arcem to the riscos.info GCCSDK
> autobuilder and also made available the resulting package there.
Not at all. Thanks for the effort.
Cheers,
Ralph.
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Hi,
Jeffrey Lee wrote:
> I've just double-checked the source code and it's confirmed my
> suspicions - ArcEm uses the emulated CPU cycle count to generate the
> IOC timers. So no matter what host machine you're using, any benchmark
> program running within ArcEm will report the same performance f
Hi Jeffrey,
Nice to see some activity on arcem. Out of interest, do you just work
on the source as one long activity or use an SCM, like Subversion or
Bazaar, locally to break up the edits?
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Hi Chris,
> static void PDD_Name(Host_SetPaletteEntry)(ARMul_State *state,int i,unsigned
> int phys)
> {
> - int r = (phys & 0xf)*0x11;
> - int g = ((phys>>4) & 0xf)*0x11;
> - int b = ((phys>>8) & 0xf)*0x11;
> + ULONG r = ((phys & 0xf)*0x11) << 24;
> + ULONG g = (((phys>>4)
Hi,
Chris Young wrote:
> The only thing letting it down is disk access speed - I'm using
> HostFS, and loading anything substantial (eg. the Syndicate demo) can
> take several minutes despite the fact it now runs at near-enough full
> speed once loaded.
>From a quick look I suspect the ARMul_Load
Hi Chris,
> > That way, we're still specifying the maximum possible to SetRGB32().
> > Same goes for the mouse cursor palette patch. Google turned up
> > http://amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADCD_2.1/Includes_and_Autodocs_3._guide/node0328.html
> > which also seems to suggest 0x_ is required.
Hi Chris,
> > The emulaor code needed tweaking a bit, but the support modules
> > loaded by RISC OS are identical to the RPCEmu versions (including
> > retaining the RPCEmu name!).
>
> Can we change this? Just to satisfy my OCD :)
Perhaps they'd consider changing to a more generic name? :-)
C
Hi Jeffrey,
> What are peoples thoughts on adopting the use of the number types in
> stdint.h? So far I've been keeping away from them because I'm not sure
> whether all the platforms have compilers that support C99.
Probably worth using it if it's available. Platforms that don't have it
could a
Hi Jeffrey,
> Another new version:
>
> http://www.phlamethrower.co.uk/misc2/arcem-src.zip (Source)
> http://www.phlamethrower.co.uk/misc2/arcem.zip (RISC OS build)
Given your continued work on arcem would it be worth using the central
repository rather than many ZIP releases? When the repo gets
Hi Ian,
> Well, I don't plan to "go crazy" but if things have stabilised a
> little again, I'll try and get the OSX build (re)done
I've a vague recollection that CVS stores some intermediate build files
for the Mac OS X port? Quite a few of them perhaps, e.g.
arcem/macosx/build/ArcEm.build/ArcEm
Hi,
Under 64-bit Linux I'm getting a window that doesn't handle expose
events and "New mode: 0x0, 400Hz (CR 0 ClockIn 24Mhz)" rapidly
scrolling up the screen. Anyone else see that? This is with arcem-fast
straight from CVS followed by a `make'.
Cheers, Ralph.
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Hi Jeffrey,
> > Under 64-bit Linux I'm getting a window that doesn't handle expose
> > events and "New mode: 0x0, 400Hz (CR 0 ClockIn 24Mhz)" rapidly
> > scrolling up the screen. Anyone else see that? This is with
> > arcem-fast straight from CVS followed by a `make'.
>
> I haven't got anyt
Hi Jeffrey,
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> > I'll try and get the emails to arcem-cvs working again soon. I
> > noticed on commits last night that they've broken.
>
> It looks like they're working again now - but it looks like everyone
> n
Hi Jeffrey,
> The floppy emulation was using a fixed number of cycles between
> generating interrupts and sending data to the ARM, but it seems that
> RISC OS relies on fixed amounts of time passing between the interrupts
> instead of fixed amounts of CPU cycles. So on a slow machine the
> floppy
Hi,
Michael Dales wrote:
> I suspect the easier thing to do would be to start the Xcode project
> afresh.
I know nothing about Mac OS X development and XCode so I could be off
track here but I've a vague memory that it would be nice if the bare
minimum could go under revision control this time an
Hi Jerome,
Does looking across all architectures to see what they do help?
Something like
grep -rw HOSTDISPLAY .
from the top of the tree?
I see things like
http://arcem.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/arcem/arcem/arch/stddisplaydev.c?revision=1.3&view=markup#l232
Cheers, Ralph.
Hi Michael,
> I'd like to offer to be ArcEm web site maintainer.
A volunteer! Capital! I wouldn't want to see something like
http://www.redsquirrel.fsnet.co.uk/redsquirrel.html though, as amusing
as it may be on first visit. :-) Something that lets newcomers get up
and running quickly, includ
Hi Doug,
> Out of the box (or cvs if you like) I was unable to get arcem to
> compile. It complained about a number of 64-bit types/methods that
> darwin doesn't have. Darwin just seems to expose them as
> non-decorated types/methods.
>
> Attached is the output of "cvs diff -u" for the "hostfs.
Hi Ian,
> On 23/07/2012 23:27, Jeffrey Lee wrote:
> > I'll upload an alpha version of a 1.50 release for RISC OS.
>
> I'd stick some builds up there too, but I believed only the admin of
> the project could do that. That's what the documentation seems to
> say. How did you upload files to the p
Hi Michael,
> In the support files section, perhaps a RISC OS 3.11 download can be
> included now, if it can be built from the ROOL source?
Wouldn't have thought it could be. I agree it would be really nice to
have 3.10 or 3.11 ROM images available for download. Who holds the
copyright? RO
Hi,
>From arcem-cvs list:
> -ArcEm is known to be compatible with both RISC OS (3.1 and below) and ARM
> Linux ROM images. A suitable ARM Linux ROM image can be downloaded from the
> ArcEm website at http://arcem.sf.net/
> +ArcEm is known to be compatible with both RISC OS (3.1 and below) and AR
Hi,
Jeffrey Lee wrote:
> In lieu of a safe place to get free ROMs, you could add a link to
> ROL's shop, where they're selling a CD containing Arc ROM images:
>
> http://www.e-junkie.com/43789
Thanks, I didn't know of
http://www.e-junkie.com/43789/product/457238.php#RISC+OS+Classic+ROMs+Collecti
Hi Jeffrey,
> Log Message:
> * win/dirent.h - Free implementation for Win32 from
> http://www.softagalleria.net/dirent.php, required for building HostFS
> in VS
>
> --- NEW FILE: dirent.h ---
> /*
> * dirent.h - dirent
Hi Ian,
> Nominally the manual should be packaged with the release, but in the
> absence of that, should we archive off the 1.0x manual in to the 1.00
> release folder (minus 'cvs' bits?)
>
> Then maintain the website version as pertaining to the current
> version, be it cvs/alpha/etc, until next
Hi Michael,
> This is now done. I also split the ChangeLog out into a separate
> document.
All looks good.
Cheers, Ralph.
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Hi Michael,
> Had a go at a web site redesign:
>
> http://www.smoothartist.com/temp/arcem/site/
Looks very nice.
Something about the old site I just noticed, the could do with
mentioning Archimedes since that was part of the name of some of the
models.
Cheers, Ralph.
Hi Michael,
> Anyone mind if I commit this lot to the site?
LGTM.
I suppose strictly speaking it only runs old ARM Linux now; modern
kernels have dropped support for such an old architecture?
Cheers, Ralph.
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Hi Michael,
> People may already be aware but the Archimedes Software Preservation
> Project is aiming to provide access to a complete archive of old
> software for the Archimedes.
I wasn't, so thanks for the news. Software, like 4th Dimension's games
still sold for a profit by CJE Micros, presu
Hi Jeffrey,
> +riscpkg: $(TARGET)
> + rm -rf ArcEm
> + mkdir -p ArcEm/Apps/Misc
> + cp -r riscos-single/RiscPkg ArcEm
> + cp -r !ArcEm ArcEm/Apps/Misc
> + rm ArcEm/Apps/Misc/!ArcEm/arcem
> + elf2aif !ArcEm/arcem ArcEm/Apps/Misc/!ArcEm/arcem,ff8
> + cp arcemrc ArcEm/Apps
Hi Rob,
> Been hacking around with ArcEm and got a couple of things here that
> may be of use:
>
> 1. Preprocessor-fiddling patches to make it build under OpenBSD
> 2. Rudimentary sndio support
>
> Are either of these things interesting enough for me to post them
> here?
Sure. Perhaps post the
Hi,
Richard Hughes has opened a ticket on arcem. Thought someone on the
list might want to pick it up; doesn't look onerous.
https://sourceforge.net/p/arcem/support-requests/2/
Please create an AppData file for Arcem
Please consider writing and installing an AppData file with the
Hi,
Sourceforge are mailing project admins pointing out CVS write access is
going to stop. Read access will continue, but that might be stopped too
in time. (Maintaining CVS's source is too much of a burden for them.)
Given our project-admin hats, Peter Naulls or I can convert the CVS to
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