Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)

2013-06-19 Thread John Curran
transaction might want to take care in obtaining a rather clear description of their purchase. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 NeedpostARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)

2013-06-19 Thread John Curran
the circumstances. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4NeedpostARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)

2013-06-19 Thread John Curran
to be reassigned to you. Until that time, your purchase is without any actual substance. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition ofIPv4NeedpostARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)

2013-06-19 Thread John Curran
? The safest move is to finalize the sale upon the approval; claiming that it is complete prior to that point is rather innovative (and might even be considered fraud if done knowingly...) FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)

2013-06-20 Thread John Curran
is inaccurate, but that does not normally have to occur. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage

Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)

2013-06-20 Thread John Curran
On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:46 AM, John Curran jcur...@corp.arin.net wrote: On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:06 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Jason Schiller jschil...@google.com wrote: 2. In the case of the latter, they have already exceeded their legacy

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors

2013-06-25 Thread John Curran
unique authority aspects due to the history of the Internet Number Registry System. Please evaluate the proposed policy change on the basis of the arguments presented. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors

2013-06-25 Thread John Curran
on the basis of the arguments presented. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors

2013-06-26 Thread John Curran
discussion of same.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles - revised

2013-07-16 Thread John Curran
, mission, etc.) are under the purview of the member-elected ARIN Board of Trustees. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles - revised

2013-07-17 Thread John Curran
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Re: [arin-ppml] Initial ISP Allocation Policy

2013-07-19 Thread John Curran
with their wifi. Doing it in this manner also avoids some potential legal issues that David Farmer noted earlier in this thread. FYI (and Thanks!) /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed

[arin-ppml] Fwd: 2013 NANOG Board - Call for Nominations

2013-08-08 Thread John Curran
NANOG is seeking candidates for its upcoming Board election. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN Begin forwarded message: From: Michael Smith mksm...@mac.commailto:mksm...@mac.com Date: August 8, 2013, 2:48:12 PM EDT To: NANOG list na...@nanog.orgmailto:na...@nanog.org Subject: 2013

Re: [arin-ppml] where I can find most recent ARIN allocation list

2013-09-05 Thread John Curran
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Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised Problem Statement and Policy Text

2013-09-13 Thread John Curran
have ramifications otherwise. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised Problem Statement and Policy Text

2013-09-17 Thread John Curran
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Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised Problem Statement and Policy Text

2013-09-17 Thread John Curran
discussion of that potential situation during policy development. It is also worth noting that we presently approve these requests, if there is a legal presence and network infrastructure in region. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-09-25 Thread John Curran
. Whether it produces a desirable outcome for the determination of the community, but it does not pose a legal problem if adopted. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-09-26 Thread John Curran
point #2 above. Supporting (or arguing against) those views is not the role of the ARIN staff, but a task for the rest of the community to take up as appropriate. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-09-26 Thread John Curran
On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:35 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:07 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: To be clear, corporate counsel did review the policy proposal (the legal assessment follows the revised policy text) and found the proposed policy can

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-09-27 Thread John Curran
On Sep 26, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Gary Buhrmaster gary.buhrmas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:21 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: ... That is correct (and reflects current practice handling resource requests.) John, I support the policy, but I do have a few questions

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-10-05 Thread John Curran
outcome as the plurality language. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list

Re: [arin-ppml] Out-of-region overreaction?

2013-10-05 Thread John Curran
(and will do so upon disposition of Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-10-05 Thread John Curran
On Oct 5, 2013, at 3:53 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: Since June 2013, there have been 52 requests that would not have been approved under the new policy because these organizations had only some equipment

Re: [arin-ppml] Out-of-region overreaction?

2013-10-07 Thread John Curran
, and that is not the case here; the resources being requested from ARIN (for the servicing customers almost entirely out of region) is within current policy, even if the result may not match expectations of some in the community. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-10-07 Thread John Curran
policy changes, so thank you for your diligence on this topic. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-10-08 Thread John Curran
with customers who go through equipment changes, including equipment with higher densities of IP address usage. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-10-08 Thread John Curran
. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

2013-10-09 Thread John Curran
not change the handling of virtual infrastructure, and ISP requests will still need to be backed by customer growth in any case. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Bootstrapping new entrants after IPv4 exhaustion

2013-11-24 Thread John Curran
to reasonably address aspects of the new entrant problem as we hit runout. It is up to the community in the ARIN region to determine whether this will be a problem at IPv4 runout in this region, and if so, how to best address the situation. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Statistics request regarding new entrants (was: Re: Stats request)

2013-11-27 Thread John Curran
On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca wrote: Thank you for these stats. Numbers always cause more questions. John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: 682 assignments 2013 YTD, 584 (86%) to new entrants 10,353 /24s issued in assignments 2013 YTD, 6,475 /24s (63

Re: [arin-ppml] Statistics request regarding new entrants (was: Re: Stats request)

2013-11-28 Thread John Curran
be quite helpful. Thanks! (and Happy Holidays!) /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list

Re: [arin-ppml] 8.2 Transfers at ARIN

2013-12-04 Thread John Curran
Curran President and CEO ARIN === From: John Curran jcur...@arin.net Subject: [arin-ppml] Statistics request regarding new entrants (was: Re: Stats request) Date: November 27, 2013 at 10:02:13 AM GMT+8 To: David Huberman david.huber...@microsoft.com Cc: p...@arin.net p...@arin.net On Nov

Re: [arin-ppml] 8.2 Transfers at ARIN

2013-12-09 Thread John Curran
of that increased interest along with our consistent rejection of specious/undocumented requests, increases the overall ratio of good-faith diligent requesters making use of the NRPM 8.2 policy and thus approval ratio. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] 8.2 Transfers at ARIN

2013-12-09 Thread John Curran
On Dec 10, 2013, at 6:53 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: The combination of that increased interest along with our consistent rejection of specious/undocumented requests, increases the overall ratio of good-faith diligent requesters making use of the NRPM 8.2 policy and thus

Re: [arin-ppml] 8.2 Transfers at ARIN

2013-12-09 Thread John Curran
and operations in 2014 and beyond. Excellent! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list

Re: [arin-ppml] 8.2 Transfers at ARIN

2013-12-10 Thread John Curran
On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:55 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:43 AM, David Huberman david.huber...@microsoft.com wrote: During my 14 years of experience on both sides of the ARIN request desk, and watching Public Policy events for most of that time, it's clear

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy regulate ARIN's responds time.

2013-12-10 Thread John Curran
be timely, unless we are awaiting from you some additional information needed for approval. What is the ticket number? You can reply on the list or direct to me, as you prefer. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy regulate ARIN's responds time.

2013-12-10 Thread John Curran
the one we have here. We will resend you the email noting the additional information necessary to continue processing your Internet number resource request. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because

Re: [arin-ppml] NRPM Policies 4.6 and 4.7 Suspended by ARIN Board

2014-01-21 Thread John Curran
into and thus improve routing aggregation by a handful of entries), then that should be discussed when the ARIN AC sends its recommendation to the PPML mailing list. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message

Re: [arin-ppml] NRPM Policies 4.6 and 4.7 Suspended by ARIN Board

2014-01-21 Thread John Curran
On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.commailto:mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:55 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.netmailto:jcur...@arin.net wrote: 2) The issue is that theoretically any organization with multiple blocks could come in and ask

Re: [arin-ppml] NRPM Policies 4.6 and 4.7 Suspended by ARIN Board

2014-01-21 Thread John Curran
to make sure this is clean. I have suggested to the AC that their recommendation take the form of a draft policy which would go through the normal policy development process (including Public Policy meeting deliberation and advancement based on community support.) FYI, /John John Curran

Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2013-8 Subsequent Allocations for Additional Distrete Network Sites

2014-01-24 Thread John Curran
for resources at all, etc.) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-2: Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

2014-01-30 Thread John Curran
this information solely to assist in clarity of discussion by the community. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-5: Remove 7.2 Lame Delegations

2014-02-03 Thread John Curran
with the staff assessment, but a limited response might be helpful for the community to understand how this change would effect ARIN's current operational procedures. Acknowledged - We will do so for community review asap. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] support for 2014-1 (out of region use)

2014-02-09 Thread John Curran
on an international basis. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription

Re: [arin-ppml] support for 2014-1 (out of region use)

2014-02-10 Thread John Curran
had a chance to clarify its intent (ref: attached ppml email from 6 October 2013 to the ppml mailing list) At this point, it would appear to best to hold off on any template changes until after the April meeting and discussion of Draft Policy 2014-1. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO

Re: [arin-ppml] support for 2014-1 (out of region use)

2014-02-10 Thread John Curran
On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:10 PM, David Farmer far...@umn.edu wrote: On 2/10/14, 17:31 , John Curran wrote: As ARIN's primary role includes management and issuance of number resources _within our region_ (NRPM 2.2), this is reflected in the request template that you received. The language

[arin-ppml] Circumvention and operational usefulness of the registry (was: Re FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)

2014-02-11 Thread John Curran
helpful registry. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

2014-02-11 Thread John Curran
the rights to the address block. It is possible that some other party is using the block (just as with ISPs who provide pieces of their address space to their customers to use), but that does not mean that their registration is inaccurate. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

2014-02-12 Thread John Curran
On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:34 AM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:31 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: To paraphrase with slightly more neutral language - It might be interesting to survey the ARIN community regarding the prioritization of needs-based

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

2014-02-12 Thread John Curran
; it is also easier transfers w/o needs- assessment Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

2014-02-13 Thread John Curran
requesting an IP address directly from the IR. Since you were a coauthor of RFC2050, perhaps you can explain what is supposed to happen when the approval described above does not occur? Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders

2014-02-13 Thread John Curran
On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote: I have a dumb question. Does 605 mean addresses are now property? Or only in some regions? It would be best to ask RIPE about interpretation of their policies. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

2014-02-13 Thread John Curran
that such a registry is relatively accurate. Refer to my email to David - the needs-based transfer policy was established in the Internet Registry system before ARIN's formation. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

2014-02-13 Thread John Curran
with acceptable language, we'll figure out how to poll the ARIN community on this topic. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

2014-02-13 Thread John Curran
On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.commailto:hanni...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.netmailto:jcur...@arin.net wrote: On Feb 13, 2014, at 9:18 AM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.orgmailto:d...@virtualized.org wrote: [ clip

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

2014-02-13 Thread John Curran
, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services toLegacyInternetResourceHolders

2014-02-15 Thread John Curran
, and then which section of RIPE 605 addresses it. Simply indicating that it is prudent (because of lack of 100% LRSA adoption) does not explain why. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you

Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal 204 Submitted, Registry Accuracy Proposal

2014-02-15 Thread John Curran
as they come under the fiduciary responsibilities of the ARIN Board of Trustees. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net

Re: [arin-ppml] Proposal 204 Submitted, Registry Accuracy Proposal

2014-02-16 Thread John Curran
On Feb 15, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:54 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: Policy proposals that are determined by the AC to lack clarity are remanded back to the originator along with an explanation of the areas needing

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy InternetResource Holders

2014-02-17 Thread John Curran
of these cases, a rejection of a transfer request results in the same scenario you describe above; suggesting that all of the RIRs are failing your new basic test of providing a registration database. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders

2014-02-17 Thread John Curran
changes you are seeking? Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list

Re: [arin-ppml] FYI -- RIPE-605 Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders

2014-02-17 Thread John Curran
At this time, you should not longer have any problem updating your ASN records, and I will apologize again that we did not recognize the issue as a fallout from our migration any sooner than we did. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] update section 203 proposal

2014-02-23 Thread John Curran
NRPM 4.2.3.7.) We do know that many folks are quite good about making updates before they request more IPv4 space, but that's unlikely to be a significant motivator for much longer... FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You

Re: [arin-ppml] Potentially credible v4 number pricing data

2014-03-03 Thread John Curran
any given transfer, it may also be worth noting that ARIN does publish a list of all blocks transferred - https://www.arin.net/knowledge/statistics/transfers.html FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improved 8.4 Anti-Flip Language

2014-03-10 Thread John Curran
policy sections of the NRPM, or define such periods upfront in the definitions section and reference them later, as the community prefers. Either approach should reduce possibility of mismatch occurring as the result of future changes. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] 2014-3 Remove 8.2/8.3/8.4 Minimum IPv4 Block Size Requirements

2014-03-19 Thread John Curran
to consider, but should not be considered a hard impediment if the community decides that no minimum is more appropriate. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-03-20 Thread John Curran
John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-03-21 Thread John Curran
, agreements, etc. I hope this help explains at least one very typical portion of the transfer abandon rate. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-03-21 Thread John Curran
of those who actually had past MA activity and then abandoned due to the effort compared to the counts of those who claimed MA activity and then abandoned due to the effort (i.e. actually a hijacking deterred) are the same transaction when viewed from ARIN's side. FYI, /John John Curran

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-03-21 Thread John Curran
), I take it that your message is in support of adoption of the draft policy? Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-03-21 Thread John Curran
On Mar 22, 2014, at 5:58 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: (Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9, which removes the need for ARIN to seek utilization during M M transfers), Apologies for the typo... should read M A (as in Merger and Acquisition address transfers per NRPM 8.2) ARIN welcomes

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN and the Evolution of the IANA Functions

2014-03-22 Thread John Curran
On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Milton L Mueller muel...@syr.edu wrote: -Original Message- From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net] Your characterization: eliminate the accountability The actual statement: ensure appropriate accountability mechanisms The end of the IANA contract

[arin-ppml] TIMELY - Request for expedited input to IANA plan development process (was: ARIN and the Evolution of the IANA Functions)

2014-03-24 Thread John Curran
on the process for development of the IANA transition plan, please contribute promptly. Thank you! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML

Re: [arin-ppml] [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal

2014-03-26 Thread John Curran
for such a purpose over the discussions of that last two days; it is simply a question of how the community wishes to organize its discussions; one omnibus list or a distinct list for operational and organization matters which are not number resource policy development. Thanks! /John John Curran

Re: [arin-ppml] [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal

2014-03-27 Thread John Curran
, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman

[arin-ppml] 2600::/12 LOA

2014-03-29 Thread John Curran
knowledge one way or the other, I have to defer to ARIN staff to answer that question. Paging John Curran please. :) However, In addition to what CJ referenced, the presentation given at RIPE 66 (slide 7) implies that ARIN and the other RIRs did provide an LOA, doesn't say written but again I

Re: [arin-ppml] 2600::/12 LOA

2014-03-29 Thread John Curran
space in the free pool before its issued to anyone, so that we can detect potential impairment of the space? Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public

Re: [arin-ppml] 2600::/12 LOA

2014-03-30 Thread John Curran
to utilize NRPM 11 going forward for purposes of this quality checking, as it makes visible the organization doing the testing/making use of the space, including duration of the activity and research nature, as well as reaffirming the expected uniqueness requirement. Thanks! /John John Curran

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-01 Thread John Curran
it to another party (via NRPM 8.3/NRPM 8.4) as part of the approval of your NRPM 8.2 restructure transfer. This is effectively what ARIN Hostmaster indicated to you, and what I attempted to convey (perhaps unsuccessfully) in my earlier comments. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-01 Thread John Curran
after the 8.2 transfer? That is correct due to alignment with present policy. Please work with hostmas...@arin.net regarding specific details of the requests. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-02 Thread John Curran
have other beliefs with respect to your rights, that would probably be an area for you to seek legal advice. I hope this helps; please do not hesitate to ask if you have any additional questions. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-03 Thread John Curran
circumstances, please contact hostmas...@arin.netmailto:hostmas...@arin.net. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net

Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9: Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

2014-04-03 Thread John Curran
earlier, you might want to seek out legal advice in these matters. Best wishes, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread John Curran
or continuance of policy, since (in agreement with David) the policy is supposed to serve the community, not the other way around. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

2014-04-04 Thread John Curran
further questions with hostmas...@arin.netmailto:hostmas...@arin.net, as the PPML mailing list is for policy development not for routine registry request processing. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN === Begin forwarded message: From: John Curran jcur...@arin.netmailto:jcur

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8 (Sandra Brown)

2014-04-07 Thread John Curran
timely concerns held by some, that would not result in any change to the position that the ARIN community can establish policies applicable to the management of all number resources in the registry. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8 (Sandra Brown)

2014-04-07 Thread John Curran
... That is obviously an outcome neither desirable nor reflecting the NSF and USG announcements supporting community- developed policy for management of IP addresses in the region. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8 (Sandra Brown)

2014-04-07 Thread John Curran
of ARIN and NSF announcement of same are far more useful in this respect than the slidedeck that was used to to pitch the concept. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed

Re: [arin-ppml] Ip allocation

2014-04-29 Thread John Curran
effects on number resource management for far longer than many folks may otherwise expect... FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-204 Removing Needs Test from Small IPv4 Transfers (Sandra Brown)

2014-05-01 Thread John Curran
it to be applicable to transfers. If the community desires such a restriction, clearer policy language would be required. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12: Anti-hijack Policy

2014-05-22 Thread John Curran
. Clarity in number resource policy is always helpful in alignment with community expectation and compliance to same. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public

Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2014-12: Anti-hijack Policy

2014-06-02 Thread John Curran
option of both appeal review and 3rd party arbitration.) FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN ___ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). Unsubscribe or manage

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

2014-06-03 Thread John Curran
by networks for more certainty in their available supply of IPv4 number resources. In the end, the community needs to consider the ongoing expected benefits of the needs-based transfer constraints in light of these evolving conditions. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers

2014-06-04 Thread John Curran
), or based potential of well-funded network operators depleting the supply of blocks for transfer, or ... (I can think of several possibilities, but it would be good for those on the list to know some of the reasoning behind your stated concern.) Thanks! /John John Curran President

Re: [arin-ppml] Simple question to simplify the rhetoric..

2014-06-06 Thread John Curran
-depletion, or pre-depletion policy for both free pool and transfers) in order to simplify the discussion, but when doing so it would be best to be rather explicit about the question being asked... Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] Simple question to simplify the rhetoric..

2014-06-06 Thread John Curran
Jason - Are you asking with respect to new issuance from the IPv4 free pool, or with respect to IPv4 transfers, or both? Some folks might choose a different answer from your list depending on which one you are referring. Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On Jun 6

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfersarin-p...@arin.net List (arin-ppml@arin.net)arin-ppml@arin.net;

2014-06-09 Thread John Curran
in place because the ARIN community has not seen to remove them; i.e. they are under the control of this community via the policy development process and that has little to do with the staff or Board views on this matter. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN

Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfersarin-p...@arin.net List (arin-ppml@arin.net)arin-ppml@arin.net;

2014-06-09 Thread John Curran
for gaming and take a realistic view that ARIN's enforcement must balance the benefits of taking action against the potential impacts of harming an innocent party (particularly when such must be based on subjective judgements rather then objective facts.) FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO

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