Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-27 Thread Henderson, Danielle R CNTR
Norm, That has been my understanding as well. I have been a Administrator for about 4 years now. I work alone but when there is a development work required we bring in a developer or a team of them. I have worked with several different developers over the years and they can easliy replace

What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-24 Thread igor ivanov
** I Have a Dream: Remedy Admin (report to Remedy Project Manager): min $75h and 3 years as Remedy Developer - creating Project Plan (MS Project, Visio) - installing ARS, ITSM, SLA and SLM, Flashboards... - midtier install and config - Configuration Management in WUT (new Groups, User,

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-24 Thread Kaiser, Norm E CIV USAF AFMC 96 CS/SCOKT
That's not the food chain as I always understood it. I've always understood it thusly: Remedy Architect Remedy Developer Remedy Administrator Notice the administrator is at the bottom of the food chain. I've always also envisioned that the developer typically can fill the role of administrator

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-24 Thread Guillaume Rheault
I totally agree with that. -Guillaume -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Kaiser, Norm E CIV USAF AFMC 96 CS/SCOKT Sent: Fri 07/24/09 11:28 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a

AD:WWRUG09 RE: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-24 Thread Daniel Bloom
To reccomend that they go to WWRUG09 this year, since there is no Userworld :-) Dan _ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of igor ivanov Sent: July 24, 2009 10:40 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: What's the difference

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Ben Chernys
True story: I once caused a human injury because of code! No, not ARS related. Mostly a problem of testing (none) rather than a development issue or oversight. I changed the code so that I would injure no one else. :) It was the first time (and only time) where code did cause some damage.

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Thomas J. Mutaffis
Here's one for all of you to figure out. What are they actually seeking in whom they hire? Maybe superman? Minimum Required Skills: remedy, BMC Remedy, ITSM, BMDS, C2BMC, ITIL, sql server, sql, database development, Missile Defense, SME, Subject Matter Expert, Secret Clearance, DOD, TS/SCI,

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Meyer, Jennifer L
Had it not been a database you wanted to remove, it would have been an excellent opportunity to practice your database restore skills! Jennifer Meyer From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Rick Cook
That's nothing. Look at the open positions on Monster wanting someone who is both a Remedy guru AND Java/Perl scripting SDE. For $70/hr on contract. Look up delusional in the dictionary and you will see that req listed. Rick -Original Message- From: Thomas J. Mutaffis

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Joe DeSouza
Ha I didn't even have a backup of this database - but then again primarily because it wasn't important. What I had done was installed a brand new instance of ARS on a brand new machihne to replicate another system.. so basically it had kind of a similar database structure.. then restored the

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Thomas J. Mutaffis
Exactly Rick. In the past 5 or 6 years two things have happened. First you need to be qualified in two to five skills sets or what might be stand-alone skills and the horrible word all-inclusive. I do wonder how the folks here deal with the all-inclusive aspect? For me it's almost not worth

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Rick Cook
Well, I don't mind all-inclusive so much, as it gives employers the ability to estimate budget impact. Its expecting that $70/hr will pay a reasonable rate to the contractor after those expenses are covered. Not that it is a very good rate by itself. And they wonder why some of those stay open

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Pierson, Shawn
I've been in both positions, as a consultant and as someone hiring consultants. As a consultant I would try to estimate what the amount I would need to spend on living expenses is. To mitigate costs, if it's 6 months+ stay only the first month in a hotel, and get a corporate apartment after

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Thomas J. Mutaffis
Pierson, Your perspective, and Rick's, is logical in many ways and in particular the budgeting aspect. Your being a consultant, if in the past, allows you to determine what is fair and numbers like $110 or $125 would cause immediate rejection. It's the agencies that seem to be the problem

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Meyer, Jennifer L
I heard an excellent quote the other day. I don't remember the exact wording, but I'll try not to mangle it too horribly: Take the job, then become the person who does that job. Think of it as boundless OPPORTUNITIES for career growth! Jennifer Meyer **snicker**

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-23 Thread Kaiser, Norm E CIV USAF AFMC 96 CS/SCOKT
Yes, and just hope you *can* become that person who does the job. Hope you don't get in over your head! -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:40 PM To:

What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Meyer, Jennifer L
I'm going to open up a HUGE can of worms today, just because I can. I keep seeing these hiring requests come in for Administrators OR Developers but not both, and every time I do, I think What the Heck? I've been doing software development and administration for better than a decade now, and

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread LJ Longwing
I have always considered Administration the use of the User tool to manage Data within the existing application, Development being the Install/Setup/Change of applications -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Brittain, Mark
This is how BMC defines it on the education page at http://www.bmc.com/education/learning-paths/lp-ars.html Role Responsibility Administrators * Maintain and configure the BMC Remedy AR System server * Modify existing workflow or build additional workflow on a limited basis Developers * Design,

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread David Morgan
At the risk of sounding flippant. Q. What's the difference between Administrators and Developers? A. Around 2+ years of experience? No - but seriously - a developer I think would get pretty bored of the general day-to-day administrative/administrator type tasks - and Recruiters who specify

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Pierson, Shawn
I would generally agree with what everyone else says, but I put it in the following way: If you are talking about a shop that builds custom applications, a Remedy developer is someone that can do everything the Remedy administrator role requires, plus development work and have a better

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Roger Justice
The most important point. What does the job pay. -Original Message- From: Benedetto Cantatore bcant...@emerginghealthit.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2009 2:43 pm Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer? ** I think

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Chowdhury, Tauf
Don't forget Remedy Engineer! Tauf Chowdhury Analyst, Service Management Office: 631.858.7765 Mobile:646.483.2779 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Roger Justice Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:47 PM To:

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Tim Widowfield
Or Remedy Architect -- you know, the guy who looks over your shoulder and says, You're doing it wrong. --Tim From: Chowdhury, Tauf tauf.chowdh...@frx.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:55:08 PM Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] What's the

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread William Rentfrow
Q: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer? A: For contract work it's about $50-75/hr ;) William Rentfrow Principal Consultant, StrataCom Inc. wrentf...@stratacominc.com Corporate Website, www.stratacominc.com Blog, www.williamrentfrow.com 715-410-8156 C

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Joe DeSouza
The same as the difference between a nurse and a doctor.. While a nurse might feel pretty qualified to do what a doctor does, a doctor is has bigger legal boundaries. Consider an AR Administrator as a nurse.. A good AR Administrator may be knowledgeable enough to develop, but its a chance you

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Guillaume Rheault
Hi Jennifer, I would not make server administration and database administration required skills sets for a Remedy administrator. Server administration (specially HP-UX, AIX, Solaris and Linux) is already vast and complex enough, specially if you add network administration to it. Windows server

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Meyer, Jennifer L
So would it be accurate to understand from the majority of your responses that in Remedy, the terms administrator and developer are bass-ackward from the rest of the IT world in that a Remedy administrator handles data configuration in the user tool, whereas a Remedy developer is responsible

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Actually I see things in the reverse of how you stated them as well. Having worked professionally doing system administration work as well as software development (including but not limited to ARS) I see system administrators and DBAs being more easily replaceable than software developers.

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Axton
Hey, I resent that :) Axton On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Tim Widowfield tim_widowfi...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Or Remedy Architect -- you know, the guy who looks over your shoulder and says, You're doing it wrong. --Tim -- *From:* Chowdhury, Tauf

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Don't forget to watch out for an Admin who does rm -rf * from the root of a server. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:38 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re:

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Jason Miller
rm -rf = Regular Maintenance -Repair Fully, right? =) Wasn't rm -rf used in the supposed OpenSSH vulnerability? On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote: Don't forget to watch out for an Admin who does rm -rf * from the root of a server.

Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer?

2009-07-22 Thread Joe DeSouza
Or run a script to drop tables or views in the wrong schema :-) I did that yesterday and fortunately it was a database we needed to blow away anyways so I could actually smile at what I did :-) Joe From: Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.gro...@xo.com To: