Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Dark;Those labels sound rather small for bar codes. When you read a label, do you have to pass the pen friend over the label as if scanning a bar code? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=223522#p223522

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Gene, the family situation I find worryingly believable, however I do not agree with Gellman entirely on the political correctness and normals issue. everybody in society has varying power relations, people vary in intelligence, physical

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Gene, the family situation I find worryingly believable, however I do not agree with Gellman entirely on the political correctness and normals issue. everybody in society has varying power relations, people vary in intelligence, physical

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerNo I am not, however, I am also not willing to throw a blanket of blame over everyone at Freedom Scientific for the bad acts of a few misguided souls.There are basically two implied factual statements in what you say.(1) Everyone

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @gellman;No I am not, however, I am also not willing to throw a blanket of blame over everyone at Freedom Scientific for the bad acts of a few misguided souls.Now, I have a question for you, if this is the software license for JAWS 16, and JAWS

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerYou wrote in the thread a few complaints about the blind comunity in #104:Now, I have a question for you, if this is the software license for JAWS 16, and JAWS 16 was released more than six months ago, why the over long delaybefore

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Oddly enough, I can easily handle hardware maintenance or repairs myself with no trouble. Even when I could see I often did my hardware work without looking at it because there was often not enough room in the computer case for your hands to do

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Gene, I think theoretically the pen friend has a label limit, but it is somewhere in the thousands. Im not too good at guestimating size in inches so I might have got the size of the pen friends smaller lables wrong, theyre probably only

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity While Chicago has its flaws, it struck me as a completely different world from anywhere Ive visited in Florida (except maybe Disney, because they actually have amazing buses and ferries and trains). I went to Chicago once with a group from my

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Sounds like you were in the downtown area of Chicago, I lived for six and a half years in River City right on the Chicago River about a quarter mile south of the downtown loop. I absolutely loved it there, however, that was before I lost my

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity One complaint I have with the blind and visually impaired community is how hypocritical they are. They complain about people treating them badly, yet they are so intolerant of other people when they make mistakes.Take this thing with Freedom

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerAre you seriously asserting that inserting sleazy clauses in a license is a mistake?Are you seriously asserting that using a software patent to chill competition is a mistake?Of course it isn; and we should not assume otherwise until

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Because corporations are made up of people, and people make mistakes. If you made a bad business decision, would you prefer to recieve constructive criticism, or be maligned behind your back by a vengeful public.And if you cant show any

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerSorry, but attacking a corporation is not equivalent with being intolerant of individuals, not even close.A sleezy license which one must assume has been scrutinized by lawyers is not a mistake but a deliberate decision to maximize

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerPutting blind children in specialized schools may be the best (or least bad) alternative, when other normal children dont want to play with them.I have no time for the politically correct mantra that normal people would treat us

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Its not just society that mistreats us, Im mistreated by my own family.My brother once told me where I might be able to get a job, the catch was he wanted 25% of my income for as long as I had the job. Im not opposed to paying a fee for help

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Its not just society that mistreats us, Im mistreated by my own family.My brother once told me where I might be able to get a job, the catch was he wanted 25% of my income for as long as I had the job. Im not opposed to paying a fee for help

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerI feel with you, so just imagine how unequally people born with blindness are treated at every stages of their life.It would have been more honest of your family simply to state that you arent welcome, because if the rules

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @gellman;He probably might, hes so tight fisted, hell drive two hours instead of just one hour simply to avoid paying a couple of dollars on tolls. Then he turns around and complains that it took two hours to get there, then complains about

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hmmm.I never had issue with family jean.No the biggest issue is with the religious people.I understand and respect your religion which is why I let you do things to me prey for me etc.However that is as far as I will go I will not join your

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well.I think in fareness since I know someone in the industry they have it just about right.In my day schools would get funded for disabled but there were no controls on what the cash was supposed for leading to misuse of funds.There are laws

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I know what you mean about corruption, when The Lighthouse for the Blind started, it was well funded and staffed and really did some good work to help the blind and visually impaired. But about ten or so years ago, the people in the Pinellas

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Gene, yes, specialized schools do have this issue, although unfortunately its the ones who adapt to the environment and cant live outside it who tend to have the most trouble. @Afrim, I have met blind couples who live together quite well

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Afrim and Gene, funny, I could say exactly the same about attitudes among the general population over here. Whatever laws Britain does or does not have, generally unfortunately the blind = alien attitude still persists. Its interesting, my

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Afrim and Gene, funny, I could say exactly the same about attitudes among the general population over here. Whatever laws Britain does or does not have, generally unfortunately the blind = alien attitude still persists. Its interesting, my

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.Well Im going to look into it when my course finishes. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=06#p06 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Maybe I take it for granted. But Canadians generally have a much more open attitude... of course you still find people who treat us the way Dark was describing it above, but if its any indication, it feels like were much luckier here than

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : afrim via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @DarkAs a blind person I find life difficult but sometimes we can change anything to improve it. From going to school, to setting up your own family is hard. Many sited women wont agree marrying a blind guy since they have no information how

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @dark;I know what you mean about blind and vision impaired oriented organizations. I got my rehabilitation training at The Lighthouse for the Blind, turns out the training they gave me was so minimal that it might as well be non-existent. My

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Assault freak, Ive heard as much of the Cnib, and you may well be right about Canida generally, certainly Ive noticed the Dutch, the Germans, people from Scandinavian countries have a much better attitude towards disability generally blindness

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Specialized schools for the blind may help to teach blind people the skills theyll need to live in a sighted world. But I wonder if separating the blind people from sighted people by putting them in separate schools instead of the public

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-07-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi all.[[wow]], just [[wow]] this is a heavvy thing.Firstly, While I dont think everything should be free or low cost because of my dissability I do think that if I am entitled to something under law I should get exactly what I am entitled

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-06-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.I couldnt agree more. I have DLA and ESA which is great and Im thankful for having it. But! The laws in the UK are really not good when it comes to disability. Yes you can get things for free but something Ive never liked is this Disability

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-06-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity A constitution , or at least our constitution, doesnt help all that much because it says nothing about treating disabled people equally. For those that have them, audio announcements of upcoming stops on busses are there because most people

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-06-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : afrim via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity You guys appear to be very lucky.In my country the laws for visually impaired people are not really good. The infrastructure is dam bad and you cant move, even half a mile on your own. I also remember that local busses do not require blind

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-06-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I know this is an old topic, it showed up in the results of an unrelated search. Probably because NVDA is mentioned in it. Anyway, I just felt that I needed to put in my two cents worth.Ive had vision problems my whole life, for most of my life

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-06-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GeneWarner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Update to my previous post:One thing to consider about KNFB Reader, unlike many cheaper and free OCR apps, with KNFB Reader, your documents are processed right there on your device. Many of the other OCR apps, send the picture of the document

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-06-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerI wholeheartedly agree with your stance on getting benefits to which you are entitled as a matter of law.Let me ponder the question -- do normal (sighted) people feel shame if they can get a tax exemption, rebate at a supermarket due

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2015-06-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I can see that arguement, and I dont disagree with stance on bennifits, (hell if I wished sinse a good amount of my sight issues are due to medical mistakes I could probably sue the nhs if I were so inclined though I have no desire to kick up

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi morecofee50.You might want to take a look at NVDA.www.nvaccess.orgIts a free screen reader which I use every day.Im just mentioning it cause it might help you with your day to day life. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : morecoffee50 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I realize that in the grand skeme of things, Im merely a grain of sand among many. So, Ill say my bit, and move on. I think, ove the years weve made a good deal of progress, and Ive been alive for 40 years to see that happen. When I first

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark, I had no idea you were such an optimist.If theres no practical way to either prevent a problem neither prepare for it you might as well just carry on as if the problem doesnt exist, its the only way to keep sane in any case. URL: http

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I disagree on that point Cx2. There is a lot to be said in just having the view out there even if nobody listens to you sinse ultimately if you sit and do nothing then its your own fault if nothing happens. This is why I went and protested

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I live by this rule. Reality is nothing; your interpretation is everything. The government is eventually made up of the people who creaed it. If you look back at a YouTube video in which I think is a monologue between an alien and an Earthling

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well Ive seen that alien thing, though bare in mind at least some of the points there were rather American specific, for example Britain has no absolute constitution which is unchangeable the way America does, in Britain if laws need changing

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark, I maybe wasnt quite clear but I did mean if nothing at all can be done in any form. If convincing one person can be done then I agree we should, but if like you say were heading for a major crash which cant be averted then we might

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity My comments about the crash were more a response to ggf saying things might change next century, sinse Im really not certain at this point whether well come to our senses or not. Its more the recognition that the current situation isnt really

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I agree with Dark, with post number three. I wont spend time going through every single post. What I think we would need is an alternative economy, where we wouldnt compete all the time, but sadly, I dont see that happening, unless we became

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity The Eastern world is indeed different but that doesnt necessarily equate to better, neither does it equate to worse. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188640#p188640

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Ill also note that the eastern world, at least exemplified by China, India and Japan are just as much under the thumb of the same prophet at all costs multinational monopoly system as we are and in many cases having a lot worse time. I agree we

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well you might be correct, though to be honest I still doubt itd make tv cheap enough to warrent the little that I bother watching the thing.Reever doesnt really have an issue with needing background noise, partly because Im in an upstares flat

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Yeah, when theres even the slightest hope of someone visiting Kirks at the very least watching the door and more usually wanders over to it wagging his tail hopefully. He just loves people that much, its quite sweet apart from the fact that he

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well Reever does love people, but not more than lying down, so usually she waits until someone walks up the stairs to get excited. The only exception to this was when my friends turned up for rp, and shed start getting excited as soon as she

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : afrim via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hello guys,I myself think that a good game, a good program or ap that you would like to have on your pocket requires a lot of work and consiquently a lot of money. Just think about some games who are not for blinds, like: Fifa, Pro evolution

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I think Dark was trying to ask at what point is free stuff justified? In that context the presence of people, VI or otherwise, who try to get free stuff regardless of whether it is genuinely justified is indeed irrelevant since the fact

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Cx2, thanks for getting my point that is indeed the distinction I meant and your example of a bus pass is a good one, though interestingly enough I myself rarely use busses sinse I dont want to risk getting on one with no audio announcements

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity hi,I personally think that it is acceptable to demand entitlements that are garanteed by law blindness is considered to be a severe disability due to the affect it has on ones ability to due thingssure we can do most things that sighted people

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hmm, the discount on internet and phone packages must be something unique to Turkey, Ive never heard of that one before though it does make a certain amount of sense. Personally Id be happy with our government waiving the VAT on such services

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity [[wow]] Enes I never realized the government was so nice in Turkey as regards providing financial assistance or requiring companies to do so.Here in Britain, bus passes are free in some counties but not others sinse bus travel is administered

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity [[wow]] Enes I never realized the government was so nice in Turkey as regards providing financial assistance or requiring companies to do so.Here in Britain, bus passes are free in some counties but not others sinse bus travel is administered

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity [[wow]] Enes I never realized the government was so nice in Turkey as regards providing financial assistance or requiring companies to do so.Here in Britain, bus passes are free in some counties but not others sinse bus travel is administered

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark, TV licenses are half price if youre registered blind, try getting in touch with TV licensing. Oh and FYI the TV license funds only go to the BBC, in fact TV licensing isnt even a government department its run by the BBC themselves. Thats

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Are you sure on that Cx2? when I moved into my flat in 2007, I was very much told by them that there were no reductions for having a visual imparement anymore, and certainly my parents dont get one. Of course, when i realized that the tv

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Are you sure on that Cx2? when I moved into my flat in 2007, I was very much told by them that there were no reductions for having a visual imparement anymore, and certainly my parents dont get one, (my mum is also registered blind). Of course

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Are you sure on that Cx2? when I moved into my flat in 2007, I was very much told by them that there were no reductions for having a visual imparement anymore, and certainly my parents dont get one, (my mum is also registered blind). Of course

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Are you sure on that Cx2? When I moved into my flat in 2007, I was very much told by them that there were no reductions for having a visual imparement anymore, and certainly my parents dont get one, (my mum is also registered blind). Of course

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Well Ive had the discount for a while now, maybe youve been getting idiots on the phone? Im not sure whats been going on there.Ive been tempted at points to drop my license but since Ive had Kirk Ive found it far too convenient to just stick

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark regarding what you said earlier I was rather alarmed when I found out the UK version of the Sendaro GPS app was branded as the RNIB Navigator app, with a note saying the RNIB receives no money from the proceeds. That strikes me very much

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.It can but its still very costly for a braille display for an iphone. I tried the braille pen but didnt like itat all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188118#p188118

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Steve, Im afraid I really dont see the fact that sighted people want free stuff as relevant. Most people (especially in our capitalist society), want stuff for free as a given and would prefer to pay less than more. There are many groups who

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : tward via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity While I see where Bryant and others are going Id like to point out that the entitlement attitude isnt something exclusive to blind people or even people with disabilities. I can safely say that human beings tend to be fairly selfish by nature

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I appreciate the point about running a company, however equally there is another side to it, sinse I am not always convinced how much prophet is being made by these companies relative to their costs, especially given the number of government

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.It can but its still very costly for a braille display for an iphone. I tried the braille pen but didnt like it at all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188118#p188118

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity at brad in post 34, I would have to say that behavior is completely not acceptible. That, is what gives the blindness community its reputation.Does he go to one of those blind schools? Blind schools seem to be more of a problem than a useful

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity My point steve, is that Tom is correct, some people will always try to get stuff for free, that is a given. The question under discussion is whether firstly this attitude is (as Briant suggested in his first post), more prevailent in the blind

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity My point steve, is that Tom is correct, some people will always try to get stuff for free, that is a given. The question under discussion is whether firstly this attitude is (as Briant suggested in his first post), more prevailent in the blind

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cbenner via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity just think, you can get a high powered scanner for around that same price. If you dont like the app, then dont buy it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188185#p188185

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi there dark. Let me answer your questions here. If I ran into a shop, and an elderly person came in and said, Can I have a discount on this item? Im old. I would ggive them a harsh no, why should you? Im young and dont get discounts. and make

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi Steve. My questions about the eldily were to illustrate the limits of the discussion rather than actually aaasking an opinion. While I do believe to an extent you are correct about specialist institutions, there is a little more to the issue

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity If your physical condition makes it difficult to use software or hardware which by design has been designed with deliberate difference toward people with special needs you absolutely ought to enjoy a human right to some kind of compensation.If

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity If your physical condition makes it difficult to use software or hardware which by design has been designed with deliberate difference toward people with special needs you absolutely ought to enjoy a human right to some kind of compensation.If

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Dark,Thats not what I meant. I know good and well blind people should get some concideration, they do have some special needs of course. But its just that sighted people try and give us more than we deserve, and this makes some of us think were

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity severestormsteve1 worte:But its just that sighted people try and give us more than we deserve, and this makes some of us think were entitled to more, because were kind of brain washed to believeso.And what do we deserve?According to the UN

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gellman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity severestormsteve1 worte:But its just that sighted people try and give us more than we deserve, and this makes some of us think were entitled to more, because were kind of brain washed to believeso.And what do we deserve?According to the UN

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Yes.And what do we deserve, as you said equality. I mean there are some sighted people who try and get us to accept free stuff, discounts, easier work, etc etc. Thats what I mean. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188228

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi.@Chriss Im in complete agreement with you on your post about flaws. Why do you think I use and try to get as many people as I can to use, NVDA? Because I know its better, faster less buggy and just works. Where as Flaws well has many

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Posts 7 and 12... [[wow]]. So much hate... its actually kind of amusing. that is all.To the rest, I dont think some of the people who have thi entitlement mentality realize that the fact that these products cost more money to make than typical

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity I have in fact read all posts in this topic and I can understand why you might have taken Bryans use of the phrase So called blind community in post two as to be more generalized than it was probably intended to be steve. Above all I would

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Brad, I suspect the daisy player was added because it took virtually no effort to do so. Any system capable of running OCR and generating TTS would have no issues at all playing back audio content and in some cases people may wish to use

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chandu via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity to begin with, I do agree that this so called entitlement atitude does prevail among blind, at least in my place. they want free rides in public transport, reservation in jobs, and all the rest of it, just because theyre blind. not just

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cx2 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity In an ideal world yes wed get all this for free to level the playing field, in reality someone has to pay for them. Now Ill be the first to say the governments of the world have many places they could stop wasting money on pet projects

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi Guys.Hmm interesting discussion. I got to thinking about jaws and windoweyes and really what does it cost companies to make something like that? Other than creating there spacific voices what does it cost besides paying a team of coders

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @Cx2,I do see a way out of this in the future sinse manifestly the government do not want to be paying out large somes of money on disability equipment either, but it will as Guitarman said take a change in expertees to recognize this fact. I

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dentin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Guitarman, it costs approximately 15 (one hundred and fifty thousand dollars) per year for each programmer assigned to a project like JAWS or windows eyes. It costs less for support staff - probably only between 40 and 80k, but its still

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : hadi . gsf via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Hi guys.I want to bring up some of mine points1. Those who say only the blind community wants free stuff, might not have been in a lot of sighted communities if so. Because all People in general prefer free stuff, it be a service or software

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Nobodys saying only theblind community wants free stuff. Ive seen plenty of examples of sighted folks demanding it. But it is a very common demand for a lot of the blind people Ive met. The amusing ones are the ones wholl refuse to engage

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity All that is unfortunately true Bryan, Ive mentioned before the annoying girls at the aims music school (Im glad I never met them). What I find worrying is such behaviour is sometimes condoned in quite high levels of organizations and thought. I

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @BrianP,I actually have to agree with a lot of that post. I have indeed come across those blind extremists who call it descrimonating when something doesnt happen their way, like the library system. Thats what apps such as tap tap see

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity Not wanting to shop somewhere because of high prices is reasonable though. As for Tap Tap See I actually couldnt get it to work consistently and I tried for quite a long time. It seems if you dont have the camera positioned just exactly right

Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity True. And I believe that also requires a wifi connection to use. Perhaps apps with OCR would work with such things as labeling? Or is there speciffic apps for that? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188093#p188093

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