Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Ugh. Why do I even bother? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620811/#p620811 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god The only reason I haven't replied is just because I see no point trying to debate this with Thunderfist799. Until they can indubitably prove their claims, arguing with them is a pointless endeavor. I suppose, in one way, its why religions like

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god The only reason I haven't replied is just because I see no point trying to debate this with Thunderfist799. Until they can indubitably prove their claims, arguing with them is a pointless endeavor. I suppose, in one way, its why religions like

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god The only reason I haven't replied is just because I see no point trying to debate this with Thunderfist799. Until they can indubitably prove their claims, arguing with them is a pointless endeavor. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620750

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Firstly I never assumed it was a fight, I said I dind't want it to become one. Second, that was precisely what I am saying. The problem is not the fact you disagreed me, the problem was the language was far too strong. It's not about me hardening

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god I hold no enmity or anger against those who disagree with me, just saying. Yes I can word my disagreements in slightly strong language sometimes, but you assuming that it's a "fight" takes it a bit too far. Strong disagreement?

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god I hold no enmity or anger against those who disagree with me, just saying. Yes I can word my disagreements in slightly strong language sometimes, but you assuming that it's a "fight" takes it a bit too far. Strong disagreement?

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Of course you know your family better than I.  But people can get offended if you insult their family. The issue was not whether you believe whether God exists or not, it was the comment about him being "ignorant." Look, let's ju

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Just so you know, your analogy doesn't hold. What does it matter to me what do you say about my family. I know them better than you do, of course. So why would I get offended. On the other hand, they exist, that too. You, on the other hand, getting

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god 1. I don't have a problem with you debating me. Your statement that there isn't impirical evidence, I have no issue with that. I have debated with people who don't believe in a God and even with Christians! I have even debated with an agnostic

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god I wonder if I ever properly explained the point of this thread. I dont' really feel like rereading my first post, but it was basically me trying to say that if there is a god, he does some really fucked up shit, so don't come to me saying it's

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god 1. you claim your god is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, as said in your scripture.2. I assert that there's not even one empirically verifiable fact in the same scripture-otherwise it sure would've contained something which scientists

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god There's no point in debating this subject with Thunderfist799. They're too fanatical; no matter what logic and science tell them, their religious text will always dominate their life, no matter how many inaccuracies it has. It could say the sky

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god There's no point in debating this subject with Thunderfist799. They're too fanatical; no matter what logic and science tell them, their religious text will always dominate their life, no matter how many inaccuracies it has. It could say the sky

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god There's no point in debating this subject with Thunderfist799. They're too fanatical; no matter what logic and science tell them, their religious text will always dominate their life, no matter how many inaccuracies it has. It could say the sky

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god There's no point in debating this subject with Thunderfist799. He's too fanatical; no matter what logic and science tell him, his religious text will always dominate his life. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620498/#p620498

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god mods, close down this topic, mods, mods mods mods mods mods. My delicate sensibilities are offended, do me justice and close down this topic.I was actually cool with most of the posts in this thread up until that dude.. yeesh. URL: https

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god 1. you claim your god is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, as said in your scripture.2. I assert that there's not even one empirically verifiable fact in the same scripture-otherwise it sure would've contained something which scientists

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Your comment just shows how rude you are, 64. I've given you the proof you want. Even if we assume theories like evolution exist, the fact is someone would have had to cause it - it couldn't be done on its own. However I see by attacking the one

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @160, not an iota of objectively and empirically verifiable fact and/or information is found in your scripture. It was obviously written when the human knowledge was not as advanced as it is today. Look at the creation theory, for instance. It had

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god No, it's because you don't desire to see proof or look outside your box. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620474/#p620474 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god That is because you can never do such a thing even if your heart desired it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620473/#p620473 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @160 believe me, if we brought you proof, you wouldn't accept it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620468/#p620468 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Several points1. The qur'an was not written by Allah, it was sent down by Allah. Just as he takes care of the original form in the chests of men and women, so does he take care of the written coppies. "And it is we who have sent down the q

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Hi,I think an issue with religion coming from a book, especially in most cases a very old and dated book, is that even if there were no contradictions in the book in question, since it is written in the format of a book it will almost always

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god It's not just islam. Christians are far from innocent of extreamism. Every group of assholes has there turn. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620446/#p620446 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Well, people think that their god is the one true god, so they're not saying their god is necessarily better than yours, what they're actually saying is that your interpretation of what god is is wrong. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @153, incorrect. It's an imperfect scripture because it was written by man to control the man and written by man to oppress the man. It is no revelation from any sort of imaginary all-powerful and omnipotent being. No wonder it's full of so much

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god So Allah wrote it? Directly? Because if humans had any hand in it's writing, you can be assured they fucked something up, or changed something, to suit their own beliefs or for some other agenda. Not only that, but consider translations, in which

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god You can’t refer to god by male pronouns, say that he is not a male, then claim your holy book has no contradictions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620432/#p620432 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god So he wrote it? Directly? Because if humans wrote it, you can be assured they fucked something up, or changed something, to suit their own beliefs or for some other agenda. Not only that, but consider translations, in which meaning can be changed

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god So he wrote it? Directly? Because if humans wrote it, you can be assured they fucked something up, or changed something, to suit their own beliefs or for some other agenda. Not only that, but consider translations, in which meaning can be changed

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Firstly, the Qur'an is not imperfect as it is the revilation of Allah himself. As I've said, if you read the qur'an with an open heart then you will realize this.Second, the qur'an does not teach Muslims to behead non Muslims. These groups llike

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god What gives your imperfect and flawed scripture power and right to declare eternal heaven for it's followers, and eternal hell/beheading/killing/persecution for nonbelievers? Just curious. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620414/#p620414

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god What gives your imperfect and flawed scripture power and right to declare eternal heaven for it's followers, or eternal hell/beheading/killing/persecution for nonbelievers. Just curious. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620414/#p620414

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Firstly, God is not a fat man in the sky. He is above his creation in a way that sutes him. Nothing of his creation can compare to him. The islamic conception of God is the most valid because it is most in conformity to him. For example

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god I may as well ask this here. For those who believe that their God is the true God, what makes your fat man in the sky any  more valid than my fat man in the sky, or vice versa? How is your god, goddess, earth mother, former president, some

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Firstly, several responses.1. My response was not at all harsh, neither did I say anything bad about your Grandmother. Second, I respect everyon'es beliefs. Third, and this is a clarification, I'm not trying to convert anyone, because it's honestly

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god So, oddly enough I had a conversation yesterday with a friend about a similar topic. I wasn't thinking of this thread when this came up btw, but after the conversation my mind did jump back here and made me think of GCW's grandma.The person I

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @145For what it's worth I don't "accept science" in that way, nor do most other actual atheists.  Science doesn't have the answers yet.  It probably will eventually, but until then I don't go seek religious explanations because every tim

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @GCW, Actually the important question would  be?  where do you turn when you are faced with great adversity, when suffering takes you by the throwt, and smashes you in to the cleaf of your own self?  Is it science?  Is it religion?  Or may

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @GCW, Actually the important question would  be?  where do you turn when you are faced with great adversity, when suffering takes you by the throwt, and smashes you in to the cleaf of your own self?  Is it science?  Is it religion?  Or may

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god I do really think you miss out on a wider array of possibilities when you only accept science. COVID-19 has spawned a bunch of left wing science proponents who don't know the first thing about it, but shout, "Believe science"

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Hey OP, I'm really sorry for what you, and your grandma of course, are going through. This world, God, whatever, it can all be very cruel.And of all the posts in this discussion, I find 141 to be the most spot on from my perspective.I guess my

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god 138 is what you get when you've lost yourself to fanaticism. First, she's christian, not muslim. Second, neither she nor I have ever said that the christian religion or concept of god is better than any other religion, but 138 basically said islam

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @141, the problem is that there is no such thing as an absolute truth. I respect the opinions of others, and I acknowledge that when talking about any one subject I may not have all the information and/or maybe incorrect, and I'm perfectly fine

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god I have many thoughts and opinions on this hole religion topic. It's one I find quite complicated for various reasons, most of which I'd rather not get into on here. I will say this though, and this is directed towards both sides of this debate

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @139Cruel, yes.  A very common belief shared even by most Christians, yes.  People get comfort from that believe it or not.  You can pass the test, if it's a test, and if you get an A you go to heaven (or go to better heaven, or spend less time

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @138, that has to be one of the most cruel posts I've seen on here -- "Hey, guys, your grandmothers and family members are suffering incredibly painful, all so that God/ can test you!" Hate to be so harsh but what the fuck, dude? GCW's g

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god GCW, my reply to your post.1. All of us have been created by Allah, the wise, the kind, the generous, the noble, and that is for one purpose. To worship Allah, may he be glorified and exaulted, in the best way ever. As Allah says in the qur'an

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @136, that particular post didn't say that. He said that previously, though, because its true. Some people are just incapable of looking at reality without introducing an element of religious context into it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @134, why do you say that some people aren't capable of atheism?  Your example is very pertinent. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620048/#p620048 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @134 why do you say that some people aren't capable of atheist?  Your example is very pertinent. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620048/#p620048 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god This has to be the strangest explanation as to why telekinesis is possible I've ever seen.https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog … s-possible URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620045/#p620045 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Ok, again, gay rainbow unicorns.  I believe in gay rainbow unicorns.  If science is supposed to disprove everything, then please tell me how to disprove gay rainbow unicorns?You can't start from the assumption that something is true and then prove

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @132, it may have not been discredited but, again, its ridiculously to improperly run an experiment and get improper results. And its not up to science to disprove something. We do it, like I said. But the majority of the time, if you tell me

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @Ethin: that paper was not discredited, either. Not to mention so many references to other publications, many of them leading to PubMed or NCBI articles. Here's what I want to know. Isn't NCBI a reliable source to read research publications? Why

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @Ethin: that paper was not discredited, either. But you and @camlorn totally nailed it. It might very well be pseudoscientific, can't deny the possibility of that. Except, of course, @camlorn: minus the ad hominem. .@GCW, man, I am too skeptical

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Science doesn't work like that and it doesn't concern with that.  Religion very strange stuf in there.  Now the question is what is that whitch streches between science and religion, but touches none?  What is the line that neither goes

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god There's this amazing BBC Radio 4 comedy called Old Harry's Game who stars Satan as the main character.In it, we get an interesting view of Christianity that I find refreshing and don't see too often.In it, Satan is basically the antihero

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @GCW:  I'm sorry that you and your family are going through what you're going through.  I hope your grandmother doesn't have to suffer for too much longer, as cruel as that sounds.My spiritual beliefs are pretty simple.  I have meditative

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god about what you’re saying camlorn I feel like in the future stuff like mine control and all of that will be possible with technology. It wouldn’t surprise me, in the past couple decades we’ve seen things that we’ve considered science-fiction become

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @camlorn and ethin you are probably right, I haven't fully considdered all aspects of it, I guess this happens when I try to write something coherent before drinking my cofee. I am always open to new possibilities that's why I keep asking

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Ok, so science doesn't work that way, as established.And here's why.  Humans emit in the infrared.  Being able to emit more or less in the infrared is something you can control even without meditation because it's a function of body heat.  Get

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god To be fully clear here, I recognize that science does not know everything. There are tons and tons of things we have observed, and which completely bust most people's brains. Want an example? Take a deep dive into quantum states sometime. I'm

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @123, the problem with that argument is that science just doesn't work like that. Its not the job of the rest of the scientists out there to disprove something that a a scientist or pseudoscientist says. Oh, they do it, like for psychics

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @122 but has anyone tried to disprove this experiment by trying a similar one? As far as google helped me I couldn't find another experiment that focuses on UV light emited by people in deep states of meditation. If it would be such a shock

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @113As Ethin so elequantly pointed out in the post above, I am afraid a single study with a clear bias isn't going to revolutionize science. On Rhine Research Centers website, at the very top of the page, it says "Building a bridge between sc

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @113As Ethin so elequantly pointed out in the post above, I am afraid a single study with a clear bias isn't going to revolutionize science. On Rhine Research Centers website, at the very top of the page, it says "Building a bridge between sc

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @GauravSharma, Those are nice research papers and all But... has anyone actually managed to reproduce the results? The supposed control of the ANS, or being able to rotate something using the mind... I certainly wouldn't trust that paper unless

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @mads: I am pasting a research paper here, and two things I'll copy here from the paper:from the heading "Control of Autonomic Responses":In early research Green and Green (1977) assessed under laboratory conditions the capacity

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Yes. This is why I could accept a godlike power or being if it ever showed itself, but it's also why I repudiate any of our current understandings of god. There's too much hypocrisy and too many double standards.Someone (I misremember who, and am

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god You can even go to church, you can develop a one on one relationship with god, but unless you give your life over to him, it's all for nothing.I have had such experiences as what you might call supernatural. messing around with energy that exists

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Tom. Brad's account is a cheese burger. That issue is solved for 5 hours. I would say god is a cheese burger, but that would break the universe since he doesn't exist. Oh crap, I already wrote it, so we're screwed for the next 5 hours. URL: https

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god If I understand things correctly, suffering and all that exists today because we turned away from God. This could have been a perfect world. It all started when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. I suppose those angels

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @mads: I am pasting a research paper here, and two things I'll copy here from the paper:from the heading "Control of Autonomic Responses":In early research Green and Green (1977) assessed under laboratory conditions the capacity

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @Brad your best option is to never look back. Act like you have no account to begin with. Lets say the mods did delete your account? What would you do? Create endless swarms of alts whenever you feel like posting? Its not on the mods, its on you

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @targor, i'm doing it so that I don't have the erge to log in. When you've convinced the admins to delete my account, you'll let me know won't you? For now, this is my best option.@Mads, I can hold energy in my hands whenever I like. If I come

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @112 the thing with what you call supernatural powers is that noone figured out yet the laws behind it. I claimed that I can do somethings but I can't do them whenever I want, usually it happens when I don't think about it, when my mind is empty. I

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god To all those who claim to possess what you might call beyond normal or even supernatural things, please tell me, why it never seems to work when people try to test these sorts of things. I mean, if you could show these powers or intuitions

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Soo i didnt read all the posts here because they are too many.But im sorry for what happened with post#1.But i have something to say. Why people only when hey are down and hardships come they search for god and if god doesnt help, then god

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god To all those who claim to possess what you might call beyond normal or even supernatural things, please tell me, why it never seems to work when people try to test these sorts of things. I mean, if you could show these powers or intuitions

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god By the love of ... well ... god, what is the point of scrambling your password when you just recover it anytime you feel like it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/619775/#p619775 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god I'm going to stop posting on this thread and scramble my password again I enjoyed writing on this topic and hoep you all have as much of a good day/night as you can. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/619773/#p619773 -- Audiogames

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @gauravSharma I agree with you, in order to truly know, to truly feel what's behind you need to drop everything, every belief and every preconception, even the claim that I am the body, or I am the mind. This is how it happened for me aswell. I

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @Jayde, the issue you are describing in post 99 is very sensitive to religious people. It is  because they haven't asked the question themselves comparing real evidence with what they know from books written thousands of years ago. If they did

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @GauravSharma as harsh as this sounds, the end gole, the ending bit; is that she will die and pass on. Perhaps gole is the wrong word. I believe there is a perpus to everything and that we keep learning as we evolve as beings, there may be an end

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god If there *absolutely* needs to be an end goal according to you then whenever suffering would strike you'd manage it using that as a coping and escape mechanism. Why to worry when it all would culminate into something spectacular in the end, anyway

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @GauravSharma I'm not sure where you're getting that i'm using spiritualism as an escape? I just believe there has to be an end gole to all of this and that we go somewhere when we die, that's it.I accept your point about suffering being a state

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Brad wrote:"@GauravSharma. So if we move on from the body and go somewhere and there's no creator who made that soul, or hat meness, what's the point?"who said there needs to be one. Obviously you did. Didn't realize you were spiritual  j

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @jade, I'm not religious so can't answer your questions from that point of view.As for me personally being mad at you for not fixing diseases? No, I'd not be mad, truth is; i'd probably not care as it's not my country. Did you care when Brexit

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @jade, I'm not religious so can't answer your questions from that point of view.As for me personally being mad at you for not fixing diseases? No, I'd not be mad, truth is; i'd probably not care as it's not my country. Did you care when Brexit

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god I will also just throw out that if god is all-powerful and all-knowing it would take him literally no time at all to fix the world.  He could just do it.  Zero effort, boom, world is now better.  Literally no time and no effort but wanting

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @GauravSharma. So if we move on from the body and go somewhere and there's no creator who made that soul, or hat meness, what's the point?That makes no sense to me, there has to be an end gole, unless we go somewhere and are destroyed but I highly

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @96 The second option would kind of ruin the whole "god is loving us and he cares for us" thing, which makes the whole religion a bit pointless.The third option would mean that god is not all powerful and has barriers even he can't by

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @90, man, I can barely imagine what you and your family must be going through. I can only hope for it to end soon, that too as painlessly as possible.Brad wrote:"I've suffered through bullieing, and family drama, but I don't deny an existance

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @90, man, I can barely imagine what you and your family must be going through. I can only hope for it to end soon, that too as painlessly as possible.Brad wrote:"I've suffered through bullieing, and family drama, but I don't deny an existance

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god Brad, you can't have it both ways.If god is all-powerful, as so many religions claim, then he doesn't get a free pass when bad shit happens. With great power comes great responsibility, so with ultimate power comes ultimate responsibility.If god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god

Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @90, man, I can barely imagine what you and your family must be going through. I can only hope for it to end soon, that too as painlessly as possible.Brad wrote:"I've suffered through bullieing, and family drama, but I don't deny an existance

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Re: I am affronted by the presence of god @Jayde this is quite interesting to me. So you're saying that because abdullah_mohammad went through hardship he should be mad at god and because he isn't and believes it's out there he has a screw loose? I think that's quite rude honestly. I've

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