Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? "Hot damn" seems kinda like the opposite of appropriate in context, so have a "cool blessing" instead. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537854/#p537854 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? See? It really can work! When next you see a topic erupt into flames, just remember this one! No, it's not easy, and it does require that you put your best foot forward, even when you don't entirely feel like it, but the reward is there all the same. That's what I keep telling my kids.When someone gives you something, you don't always feel thankful when you first get it, particularly if you had your sights set on something you personally thought was more fitting to you or something you wanted or felt you needed more or whatever. On the other hand, if you choose to say thank you and mean it because you know the person in question was thinking of you or even bothered to get you something, you will feel it later. When you say good morning, you may not entirely feel like the morning is good yourself, but there's something absolutely fantastic about being able to put a smile on someone else's face at the prospect of doing so, and when you take into consideration that the other person may have been having a bad day already because of yet another unpleasant exchange and you may have just turned that person's day around? BEAUTIFUL!No, you don't always want to walk the extra mile, and no, you don't always want to break the vicious cycle, the one that gets started by the Uber guy who quibbled with you about your service dog and told you he wouldn't transport it, or the receptionist who tried to guide you to a chair and did it in a way you thought was inappropriate/improper/unprofessional, or the doctor who wouldn't talk to you because you had some other sighted person with you at the office, or the store employee who honestly thought you were faking your visual impairment/blindness/disability/inability/throw your favorite word in here... I know I don't always want to just ignore that! It gets under my skin! I want to start railing, and ranting, and raving, and rampaging and destroying things and seeing just how much damage I can dish out in return! I admit it! I have to admit it because...In the end, what it comes down to is that they're just as human as you. Maybe they were under the impression that blind people can't do anything. Maybe they've never met another blind person besides yourself. Maybe they to were having a bad day. Maybe they don't like their job but need to keep it because they have hungry mouthes to feed and finding another job just now is a bit tougher than tough. Maybe they're actually looking but they've been turned down ten, fifty or even 500 times by other companies. You don't know, and you can't know unless they open up to you about their troubles, and they won't open up to you or anyone else they feel is not an open ear but simply wants to quarrel about this or that, so say good day and then go about your own. No, you don't always feel it, but you do have a choice to make, and that choice may be the difference between good and bad, or good and great, or great and even better, but you may not figure it out for years to come, if at all!If you're still reading, I have two stories to share, both from my personal life and both freely given because I want you to see how I try to put this into practice and how even now in some senses the first, at least, still leaves me feeling somewhat like a failure, but the reason is that I don't know and will more than likely never know what the end result is, more than because I did the wrong thing.1. As many of you may know, Nightshade and I have four children. Our children all require occupational and physical therapy to some degree or another. As such, up until recently we had therapists in both fields coming in and doing stuff with the children. We'll call them OT and PT and not disclose any names; hopefully this will suffice. Anyway, when PT first showed up with the entire evaluation team we felt she was far too quiet, did not really interact with the children and over all didn't seem to know what she was doing. We let it slide, figuring she was just nervous; it later came out through er own admition that she, PT, that is, had never worked with children but rather had spent most of her career with adults and had just been laid off, if that can be believed. I say that last bit because as time progressed, it became clear that PT was not at all into her job, was obviously looking for another job and thus could not remain consistent in her work hours or visits. she did well for about the first month and a half, then came a day when she was supposedly sick for a week, but the funny thing is that when we called the company because she failed to show up for two visits under that excuse and we grew concerned about her welbeeing the company said they hadn't heard about her being sick at all. Interestingly enough, that call somehow made her magically get better, but from that moment on she became distant during her visits, spoke abruptly to us, began doing things behind our bback such as giving
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? See? It really can work! When next you see a topic erupt into flames, just remember this one! No, it's not easy, and it does require that you put your best foot forward, even when you don't entirely feel like it, but the reward is there all the same. That's what I keep telling my kids.When someone gives you something, you don't always feel thankful when you first get it, particularly if you had your sights set on something you personally thought was more fitting to you or something you wanted or felt you njeeded more or whatever. On the other hand, if you choose to say thank you and mean it because you know the person in question was thinking of you or even bothered to get you something, you will feel it later. When you say good morning, you may not entirely feel like the morning is good yourself, but there's something absolutely fantastic about being able to put a smile on someone else's face at the prospect of doing so, and when you take into consideration that the other person may have been having a bad day already because of yet another unplesant exchange and you may have just turned that person's day around? BEAUTIFUL!No, you don't always want to walk the extra mile, and no, you don't always want to break the vicious cycle, the one that gets started by the Uber guy who quibbled with you about your service dog and told you he wouldn't transport it, or the receptionist who tried to guide you to a chair and did it in a way you thought was inappropriate/improper/unprofessional, or the doctor who wouldn't talk to you because you had some other sighted person with you at the office, or the store employee who honestly thought you were faking your visual impairment/blindness/disability/inability/throw your favorite word in here... I know I don't always want to just ignore that! It gets under my skin! I want to start railing, and ranting, and raving, and rampaging and destroying things and seeing just how much damage I can dish out in return! I admit it! I have to admit it because...In the end, what it comes down to is that they're just as human as you. Maybe they were under the impression that blind people can't do anything. Maybe they've never met another blind person besides yourself. Maybe they to were having a bad day. Maybe they don't like their job but need to keep it because they have hungry mouthes to feed and finding another job just now is a bit tougher than tough. Maybe they're actually looking but they've been turned down ten, fifty or even 500 times by other companies. You don't know, and you can't know unless they open up to you about their troubles, and they won't open up to you or anyone else they feel is not an open ear b ut simply wants to quarrel about this or that, so say good day and then go about your own. No, you don't always feel it, but you do have a choice to make, and that choice may be the difference between good and bad, or good and great, or great and even better, but you may not figure it out for years to come, if at all!If you're still reading, I have two stories to share, both from my personal life and both freely given because I want you to see how I try to put this into practice and how even now in some senses the first, at least, still leaves me feeling somewhat like a failure, but the reason is that I don't know and will more than likely never know what the end result is, more than because I did the wrong thing.1. As many of you may know, Nightshade and I have four children. Our children all require occupational and physical therapy to some degree or another. As such, up until recently we had therapists in both fields coming in and doing stuff with the children. We'll call them OT and PT and not disclose any names; hopefully this will suffice. Anyway, when PT first showed up with the entire evaluation team we felt she was far too quiet, did not really interact with the children and over all didn't seem to know what she was doing. We let it slide, figuring she was just nervous; it later came out through er own admition that she, PT, that is, had never worked with children but rather had spent most of her career with adults and had just been laid off, if that can be believed. I say that last bit because as time progressed, it became clear that PT was not at all into her job, was obviously looking for another job and thus could not remain consistent in her work hours or visits. she did well for about the first month and a half, then came a day when she was supposedly sick for a week, but the funny thing is that when we called the company because she failed to show up for two visits under that excuse and we grew concerned about her welbeeing the company said they hadn't heard about her being sick at all. Interestingly enough, that call somehow made her magically get better, but from that moment on she became distant during her visits, spoke abruptly to us, began doing things behind our bback such as giving
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? OK, so a couple things. When I said to start a new thread, I was more referring to the controversy with the last of us 2, not the slang issue. Second, so the reason I took that comment as homophobic was because you used the word woke, and then immediately said "I'm straight." Combine that with the fact that the main character Ellie is gay, as shown in the last of us DLC and trailer of part 2, that's why I reacted the way I did. I of course know what straight up means, it's all in context of how you say things. Thanks for apologizing in the other thread, it's all good. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537544/#p537544 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I'm kinda to the point where I'm sick of labels, and just prefer more active descriptions. Attracted to x rather than x-sexual, was born in x rather than now minus x years old, etc. I suppose "can see exactly this much or less" instead of "am blind" / "am visually impaired" / etc can go on the list, too.I did encounter someone using "handycapable" on facebook once. I laughed in the comments and they said they thought that was the new PC thing. Idc what the newest PC thing is (last I heard it was "people with disabilities" but that was several years ago), and just prefer active descriptions. Of course, one political group or other will probably claim this eventually, and then I'll be unwillingly associated with them retroactively, and have to do something different, but until that particular UTTER STUPIDITY ruins it, it seems like the clearest strategy.Bah, me talking about communicating clearly, as if I know the first thing about that. T.T URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537525/#p537525 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Yeah, we have kind of wandered away from the original topic. However, if you think about it, all of this fits together in a very general sense, so in that respect we're still, more or less, on course. Actually, this has really been quite interesting. There might have been a few exceptions here, but I have to thank you folks here for staying cool as I know how this topic, and others like it, can get people really fired up. I think this might be one of the first times in a very long time I've been able to have a chat on this subject where things didn't get out of hand. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537507/#p537507 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I don't like being called handicapped. Never have. It's one of those terms that fell out of favour in the late 80s or even earlier, I believe, and that's just how things work. I do have a handicap though; I'm kinda short a couple of working peepers. I don't get too upset about this particular thing most of the time.We have definitely wandered pretty far afield of the original topic, mind. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537499/#p537499 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @154 And people tell me I'm good with writing. pfff. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537494/#p537494 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I had this ... dream? Wherein a barbarian child lay on the ground, and was encircled by doves. Then the doves were encircled by ravens. The ravens cawed discordantly, but the doves sang in unison, and their song overpowered the voices of the ravens. You could hear the ravens in the brief pauses, but the doves outsang the ravens until the child stirred, and stood, and walked off into the field.Since the doves were, in context, clearly symbolic of angels, and the ravens demons, and there's this idea that angels outnumber demons 2:1 because of this verse from Revelation where 1/3 stars fall from heaven, I looked up the wingspans of doves and ravens, and tried to calculate the relative sizes of the circles, if they were standing wingtip to wingtip, to get those ratios, and posted it to Facebook.Then I realized that everyone on Facebook is in war-mode over that thing that happened, and somebody might read the doves and ravens as symbolic of something completely different. So I ran back to Facebook to delete it, only to find that the instant I opened it, a comment appeared, that ... was either literally about birds, or someone trying to subtly express concern about the rl situation with plausible deniability, and I just gave up and relied on the fact that people generally ignore me anyway.A dream that clerifies itself can be as symbolic as it wants. So too poetry, or self-identified parables. But this bullcrap where we apply poetry class or outright Cabalistic levels of literary analysis to every little thing anyone says—and, yea, that there are enough people actually communicating such that this is sometimes useful—is absurdly frustrating when one wants to literally just make a random comment about how many birds can fit in a circle because of a weird dream.I want to blame the internet, or English Majors, or whatever, but that'd be silly. It got on my nerves before all that, during that brief window before I got to the internet but after all my classmates started reading sex into absolutely everything. The trouble with subtext is that it is subtle enough that you can never know what was intended, but everyone can act like they do. And before you know it, someone's just asking questions, and someone else is just concerned about safety, and we're just "keeping the peace", and by the way lol you said "hard" and "long" at some point and it had nothing to do with sex but we're laughing like it did because GAH THIS CIVILIZATION IS AWFUL.And what can be done about it? If you lay down the weapons of subtext and symbols, but someone else does not, they'll just keep using them to make a mess of things.I suppose you could run off to 4chan and start a plot to ruin some random word or idea, and then lyao when it actually works. But ... maybe don't do that? Communications har—difficult enough as it is.What was the point of all this, in context? I do not know. I got tired of the crapstorm by the end of page 2, noticed that things had changed when I skipped to the last page, but wrote the above anyway.I'd write some pithy conclusion, but every time I leave the box and try to get back into it, iOS first throws me into the address field, and I am just fed up with that, too. That's not symbolic of being fed up with using hypertext to war over subtext, but I'm sure this is not a coincidence. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537491/#p537491 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I don't mind people saying I have a handicap but saying I am handicapped is a bit inaccurate for me.On the flipside I don't like "handicapable" either, but no one really says that anymore1 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537489/#p537489 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Personally I just don't like the word "handicappf". It just rubs me the wrong way, personally.The things that frustrate me, though, is when you see videos that say "a blind person can play this game", and the people themselves have some vision that is being used to play said game. It's not a huge gripe, but being totally blind and going onto someone's video or stream and not knowing they have some vision and buying the game only to find out it's NOT actually playable without vision or other means necessary is that little ounce of disappointment that inevitably occurs. And now I just remembered why more people with some vision refer to themselves as being blind, due to legal blindness. I'm okay with that, but I just wished that there was some sort of universally used term to differentiate. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537488/#p537488 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? If you're dealing with a person one-on-one, I figure it's totally fine to just tell them you prefer the word "blind". That's a preference. I have it myself.But in a more official capacity, that's where "visually impaired" can come in. As I say, that's the term I will use with clients if necessary until or unless they specifically tell me otherwise. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537487/#p537487 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? All those synonyms indicate reduced functionality though which supports some of our interpretations of that word. But I do understand where you're coming from by saying that someone as a whole may be impaired and I thought about that after I wrote that. Like someone as a whole may be impaired because their blind. So in that aspect, that makes sense. But for clarity's sake if someone is going to talk about what level my vision is at, I'd prefer them to say blind, or that I can't see.. Whatever it is. It's just fewer syllables that need to be said and gets the point across with little to no room for confusion.I actually don't like when people say that I'm disabled. As if I just got mugged and thrown down a flight of cement stairs and am unconscious with internal bleeding. Disability is fine, it's more accurate, it means that an ability that is typically had by the majority of people is what I don't have. Disability. Maybe if you're a quadroplegic (can't spell it god damn it), disabled would make sense. But your brain still works. Steven Hawking is an example of this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537480/#p537480 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I hate to quibble here, but synonyms for "impair" include "damage", "reduce" and "diminish". Neither these words nor "impair" itself actually denotes a base level of functioning. If this is the interpretation you take, it is not shared by the mainstream.Impairment means simply that something is not functioning at peak capacity. It might be functioning at 75% capacity, or 40% capacity, or 0.005% capacity, or 0% capacity. Either way, function is impaired.Thus, if someone refers to me as visually impaired, they're correct. If they're doing it to avoid the word "blind", I'll set them straight. If they're doing it just as a catch-all, I don't mind. And if I'm, say, describing a client, I would note them as having an impairment, even if said impairment was total.Again: not all visually impaired people are blind, but all blind people are visually impaired. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537478/#p537478 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I agree with 148. My vision is not impaired, it's totally nonfunctional. I have a speech impairment via my stutter. My speech is impaired, not nonfunctional. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537470/#p537470 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Impaired indicates that it works to some degree, IMO. My ears are definitely not working properly, but they still work, so they're impaired.I actually don't mind saying that I can't see, it means the same thing as blind does without softening it up that much.@146 Jesus fuck some people overreact to kids and also people in general just not knowing how to put things. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537465/#p537465 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Im[aired indicates that it works to some degree, IMO. My ears are definitely not working properly, but they still work, so they're impaired.I actually don't mind saying that I can't see, it means the same thing as blind does without softening it up that much.Jesus fuck some people overreact to kids and also people in general just not knowing how to put things. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537465/#p537465 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? If something is impaired, it means it isn't working properly.All blind people are, by definition, visually impaired. But not all visually impaired people are blind. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537460/#p537460 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? The asian culture is notorious for sidestepping terms like blind. Both sides of my family, both speaking different languages, but are of asian origin would rather say to me or anyone else about me that I can't see, rather than I'm blind. I once witnessed a lady friend of my parents punish her kid severely because he referred to me as the blind person. I was too ignorant at that time to feel much of anything then, mostly indifference, but thinking about it now kinda makes me feel bad for him. The good thing is that we did share a good portion of our childhood as kids do, having fun and doing things together. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537458/#p537458 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I've read through this entire topic and wow! A few things here.Yes, people get offended over all sorts of things now. This is honestly one more reason I don't like associating with the vast majority of the population. You're never quite sure what will set off someone's extremely sensitive feelings. This is why I don't talk about politics, race, culture religion, etc anymore. Someone will inevitably find a reason to be offended. Oh well. They say the only person you can truly trust is yourself, and I'm starting to seriously believe it.Dan_Gero, you're the only one who can change. We can give you a push in the right direction, but you're ultimately the one that controls your actions. You can say something over and over and over without acting. The more you do that, the more likely it is that people will stop taking you seriously, precisely because you haven't committed to actual improvement. Hopefully you'll find peace within yourself one of these days. I wish you the best of luck.I hate the blind vs. visually impaired thing. Words mean things, yet people constantly use them in the wrong ways. I suspect most of it comes down to political correctness, which I generally view as a bunch of crap. Call things the way they are. I'm blind, not visually impaired. I have no vision what so ever. I can't control how people react when I say I'm blind, but I can at least try to answer their questions and ease their concerns. However, it's totally up to them whether they listen or continue to hide behind their fear and misconceptions. Oh, and the legally blind thing really gets under my skin! What does that even mean? That's not blind, that's visually impaired. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537450/#p537450 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I've read through this entire topic and wow! A few things here.Yes, people get offended over all sorts of things now. This is honestly one more reason I don't like associating with the vast majority of the population. You're never quite sure what will set off someone's extremely sensitive feelings. This is why I don't talk about politics, race, culture religion, etc anymore. Someone will inevitably find a reason to be offended. Oh well. They say the only person you can truly trust is yourself, and I'm starting to seriously believe it.Dan_Gero, you're the only one who can change. We can give you a push in the right direction, but you're ultimately the one that controls your actions. You can say something over and over and over without acting. The more you do that, the more likely it is that people will stop taking you seriously, precisely because you haven't committed to actual improvement. Hopefully you'll find peace within yourself one of these days. I wish you the best of luck.I hate the blind vs. visually impaired thing. Words mean things, yet people constantly use them in the wrong ways. I suspect most of it comes down to political correctness, which I generally view as a bunch of crap. Call things the way they are. I'm blind, not visually impaired. I have no vision what so ever. I can't control how people react when I say I'm blind, but I can at least try to answer their questions and ease their concerns. However, it's totally up to them whether they listen or continue to hide behind their fear and misconceptions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537450/#p537450 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I've read through this entire topic and wow! A few things here.Yes, people get offended over all sorts of things now. This is honestly one more reason I don't like associating with the vast majority of the population. You're never quite sure what will set off someone's extremely sensitive feelings. This is why I don't talk about politics, race, culture religion, etc anymore. Someone will inevitably find a reason to be offended. Oh well. They say the only person you can truly trust is yourself, and I'm starting to seriously believe it.Dan_Gero, you're the only one who can change. We can give you a push in the right direction, but you're ultimately the one that controls your actions. You can say something over and over and over without acting. The more you do that, the more likely it is that people will stop taking you seriously, precisely because you haven't committed to actual improvement. Hopefully you'll find peace within yourself one of these days. I wish you the best of luck.I hate the blind vs. visually impaired thing. Words mean things, yet people constantly use them in the wrong ways. I suspect most of it comes down to political correctness, which I generally view as a bunch of crap. Call things the way they are. I'm blind, not visually impaired. I have no vision what so ever. I can't control how people react when I say I'm blind, but I can at least try to answer their questions and ease their concerns. Unfortunately, that's totally up to them whether they listen or continue to hide behind their fear and misconceptions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537450/#p537450 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I've read through this entire topic and wow! A few things here.Yes, people get offended over all sorts of things now. This is honestly one more reason I don't like associating with the vast majority of the population. You're never quite sure what will set off someone's extremely sensitive feelings. This is why I don't talk about politics, race, culture, etc anymore. Someone will inevitably find a reason to be offended. Oh well. They say the only person you can truly trust is yourself, and I'm starting to seriously believe it.Dan_Gero, you're the only one who can change. We can give you a push in the right direction, but you're ultimately the one that controls your actions. You can say something over and over and over without acting. The more you do that, the more likely it is that people will stop taking you seriously, precisely because you haven't committed to actual improvement. Hopefully you'll find peace within yourself one of these days. I wish you the best of luck.I hate the blind vs. visually impaired thing. Words mean things, yet people constantly use them in the wrong ways. I suspect most of it comes down to political correctness, which I generally view as a bunch of crap. Call things the way they are. I'm blind, not visually impaired. I have no vision what so ever. I can't control how people react when I say I'm blind, but I can at least try to answer their questions and ease their concerns. Unfortunately, that's totally up to them whether they listen or continue to hide behind their fear and misconceptions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537450/#p537450 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I think people digest the phrase visually impaired because it's what they come to think is more acceptable which is kind of stupid IMO, especially in areas where it's literally someone's job to give you a service, such as a waiter, etc. I also think it's why so many people don't understand that no blind people can't see lights and that there is a difference between legally blind and actually blind by itself. Blind is a dead end word. I'm blind, I don't see jack and shit. And that's why I use it because it's the truth.No, we can't make people not be offended by something but we can logically explain why it may be stupid for them to jump the gun on a particular phrase. Sometimes the way they feel about a phrase highlights an insecurity they have with themselves, which is fine, you're allowed to have insecurities, but when you crawl up someone else's ass and take them down because they said something you don't like, that's idiotic.If I'm gonna call someone something that may be unpleasant its for a reason and no one is gonna sit here and just take being called a cunt, no matter who they are, whether they did something wrong or not.Also it's doubly annoying when you see people that aren't a part of these marginalized groups being the ones that are getting offended. I.E. White people getting pissy that an italian white man makes a goofy, exaggerated black pimp character, while the black people are like "dude, i'm black and I think it's hilarious." Or the straight people trying to chase down homophobia where ever they think they've found it. I'm not saying they can't fight for equal opportunity but they sometimes take themselves way too seriously and they probably need to go find something redeemable for themselves to do and enjoy life a little more. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537449/#p537449 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? People who know me (friends and family) say that I'm blind, because that's what I am.In professional situations, such as job placements and the like, I first disclose that I have a visual impairment, which is true. Sometimes, people ask what it entails, at which point I tell them that I'm totally blind.I have occasionally gotten blowback for being unable to see, but in my own experience, my terminology doesn't matter much. The only time I ever had trouble here is when dealing with a counsellor at my college, who was being way, way too careful. I gently told him as such. We got along better after that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537448/#p537448 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Yes, the term visually impaired should be used when someone actually does have usable sight, whether it's shadow perception or night blindness. I think it's rather silly for a totally blind individual to refer to themselves as visually impaired just to check a box, or to make someone feel better about their disability.On the other hand, some people do respond better to that terminology than if you refer to yourself as blind, unfortunately. Several years ago, I was having some trouble with my internet, and when I called the ISP I had at the time to troubleshoot the issue, the customer service rep I spoke to was highly uncomfortable when I told him that I'm blind, and therefore couldn't see the lights on the modem. I basically hit a brick wall with this person after that, though, admittedly, I wasn't as well-versed in the pains of working in customer service at that time, so their discomfort probably had just as much to do with the fact that they weren't allowed to deviate from their script as it did with my visual accuity. In any case, I politely hung up, called back a bit later, spoke to a different person, and instead used the term visually impaired, more for shits and giggles than anything else. This, they seemd to sympathize with, and were more understanding. A more recent example involves a time when my partner and I went to a local restaurant. I'm familiar with this place, and wanted him to experience it, since he isn't from this area, or state, for that matter. However, I had always gone with people who were sighted previously, so I was unaware that the PDF menu that's available on the website is horrendously inaccessible. So, he called ahead to ask some questions about it, since, while I certainly had a couple of recommendations based on my good experiences, he wanted to know about things that perhaps were more to his taste. When he unleashed the b word (blind) I noticed, based on the tamper of the person's voice who he spoke to that there was a noticeable shift. They weren't unfriendly or unhelpful after that, just on guard, I guess. Yet, when we went there, our server was super laid back when I asked him what beers they had on tap (this place has some truly phenomenal beers that they brew themselves, particularly their IPA's, a big reason why I patronize their establishment whenever I'm in the area.) I used the term visually impaired when explaining why I wasn't able to read the draft list, and I couldn't help but briefly wonder if that put the guy more at ease, or if I'm imagining things. I don't know, it's an interesting topic, and I'd be curious to know others' opinions on whether or not terminology helps or hinders in professional situations.One side note, though. If people who are close to you are repeatedly dancing around the word blind because they're uncomfortable with it, that's not cool at all. That's something I do not appreciate. For example, in the 30 years that I've been alive, my dad has never once referred to me as blind, only haltingly saying visually impaired when the situation calls for it, and, in fact, is highly uncomfortable using the word in my presence in general. While I am technically visually impaired (I have shadow perception) it's the squeamishness of someone who really should know better that bothers me the most. So yeah, this isn't a black and white issue, not by a long shot. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537447/#p537447 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Visually impaired vs. blind is either personal or logistical, and I don't know too many people who will treat either term like a slur. It might ruffle them a bit, but on this particular topic, I'm with you. I don't care what people call me, and generally prefer that they don't tiptoe because I don't need it. Others are at liberty to feel differently.Probably a better catch-all term than "homophobia" would be "queerphobia", since it encompasses all of it. That said, the meaning of the word is pretty clear now, and language -does evolve, so that angle is put to bed, I think.I want to gently point out that it's not up to us to determine what offends other people. I don't get to tell you that I can call you whatever I want, and you just have to deal with that. If a term I use upsets you, you have a right to tell me, and if I'm a decent human being, I have an obligation to do my best to treat you with respect.This is especially loaded when it comes to slurs, or when it comes to subsets of the population who have literally been killed for their differences. It's not common that us blind folk are killed because we're blind. But people of colour die for the colour of their skin. LGBT individuals are sometimes beaten to death or imprisoned. Women are often raped and assaulted. If we aren't in one of those groups, we really shouldn't be telling them how to feel, how to speak or how to act.I am curious though. What sort of career would be 100% derailed by the Covid-19 pandemic, to such an extreme that you have to switch jobs completely? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537444/#p537444 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? George carlind has a bit you can find on Youtube called "soft language" and he delves into this topic very well.I'm blind, not visually impaired. Some people feel the need to sidestep the issue. But it's only an issue to them. I also don't care when someone else goes "what are you, blind?" to another person. Because the sarcasm behind the question is supposed to be that he's not blind and is just not paying attention.It's one of the reasons why I'm not gonna let my brother grow up to think that just because someone uses the R word that it's a reason for him to lose his shit. Context to me is 80% of a word's usage and I don't like how people are being groomed to look at things from a very black and white perspective, it could be very dangerous when they become adults and maybe start traveling to other places where people don't have the same attitudes as the people they grew up around. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537443/#p537443 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I've heard the "language evolves" thing before, and, while I do understand that, it also seems like v mighty convenient way for people to justify something, kind of like these various groups that have started causing trouble again. I realize that this is probably beating a dead horse, so I won't even try any further. However, I will not shy away from certain terms just because a few people find them offensive, not until they have that same respect. That kind of respect works both ways, and I just have reached a point where I don't tolerate stupidity. I had a college professor once who, seeing that I was trying to get across a really busy street in Boston one day, wouldn't help me to do so simply because he was so wrapped up in one of these so-called protests. That was several years ago, and things have only devolved since then. Thank God there are still kind people out there who are willing to say what needs to be said. I never thought. I would live to see a time when people were so oversensitive to things that they get so offended at the dumbest things. Now, take the term "blind" for example. I refer to myself as blind rather than visually impaired because visually impaired is such a vague concept that it doesn't really make anything clear. It doesn't tell the person you're talking with whether you can see enough to read, whether you merely have shadow vision, or anything like that. We ran into this on our daughter's IEP a couple of years ago. She wasn't getting all the funding she should have been getting to go toward her braille books, and thus wasn't getting many of them. this was all because it was written in her IEP, unbeknownst to us, that she was visually impaired, not totally blind. We corrected that, and she's gotten everything she's needed ever since. So, there are times when using politically language just does not cut it. I know some here will hold a different view, and that's fine. I wouldn't think of forcing you to change your view. I respect your views, and the freedom to express them. I just wish all of society shared that kind of respect. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537438/#p537438 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? actions speak louder than words, Dan. I sincerely want to see you succeed in the quest for self-betterment. Lord knows we've all got our problems, and I'm not here to set an undue spotlight on yours, or anyone else's, for that matter.The only piece of advice I'll give you is this:If you know better, do better.It's well and good to say that you'll change, but if you've done it before and then backslid, people will have a hard time trusting you. That's on you, not them. Don't wallow in shame and guilt. Process those feelings, then get busy fixing what you see, asking for help where you need it, and tossing the toxic elements of your situation that are holding you back wherever possible.Yes, I am speaking from a lot of hard-won experience here. Large-ish confession time, for context. I've talked about this before, to some extent, but I think it matters here.I failed out of university in 2003. People thought I was labouring through, but I really wasn't. My life fell apart, I lied about it for a few months, then it came back to bite me. I said I'd do better, and when I said it, I meant it, but I didn't do much.In 2005, my brother died. I had no idea where I wanted to go with my life, so I didn't confront it.More time passed. I told the people around me that I was seriously considering what I wanted to do. I wasn't. I was gaming, hiding from the world and generally only flying on little bursts of motivation when the mood hit me. It didn't often.I got into a relationship where my partner started encouraging me to go back to school. I talked about writing a book, which I was doing but not nearly in the way I said I was. I was crushed by shame, felt cornered by pointed questions and just wanted them to go away, so I gave answers that sounded hopeful and useful and whatever else so people would go away and stop pushing. This partner really didn't. Instead of going back to school or getting a job, I just moved to Alaska to "get my life in order", and wasted a year and a half or so doing not much of anything. I left Alaska with promises to go back to school and fix my life. I was done being idle, I said. Twenty-nine was too fucking old to be dependent on government assistance.I came back (new partner by now), started school, got through the first semester okay, then faltered again. I lost motivation, told people I was struggling but downplayed it massively, talked a lot about how I was changing and improving. I wasn't. Not really. Eventually, I failed out of my program and knew I had to come clean, so I did. It took literally years; I had everyone in my life - I lived alone at the time - ostensibly fooled into thinking I was in school still when I wasn't, because I couldn't bear to admit more failure and self-sabotage. I lied to everyone, got their hopes up, talked a great game and ultimately didn't deliver.So once all this came out in the wash, I said that I was done with all of that. Done with being idle, done with lying, done with hurting people. And you know what the majority of my friends and loved ones said? It was a variation on "I'll believe it when I see it". I did get a lot of support, but nobody really believed all the way down that I was going to change, because I hadn't really done it before. Patterns suggested that I'd falter and fail again, and while I'm sure they wanted to see me succeed this time, they just didn't have the heart to throw themselves all the way behind me. I can't blame them.So what did I do? I reached out to my college, got into a different program, struggled a bit, but fought through to graduation. I attended CBT for twelve weeks late last year and early this year to get a handle on worry, anxiety and self-sabotage, because yes, I still wrestle with these and probably will for the rest of my life. I've started reaching out more to friends and family. Staying connected, trying very hard and mostly succeeding to stay honest (seriously, folks, shame sucks). Most people believe me now, but I had to really, really work on that because I shot most of their trust to hell. I was upset at first, but I knew I had nobody to answer to except myself.So what I'm saying here is that right now you're reminding me a little bit of me, only with you, it's anger instead of shame and lies. When you say you want to change and will do better, I believe that -you believe it, but I'm not convinced you mean it. You want to, I can see that, and I really do hope you succeed, but this has happened enough times before that, while I will do what I can in supporting you, I'm also not sold on your conviction. And the only way I will be is by prolonged effort and improvement. This doesn't have to be a bad thing, and it's not a condemnation of any kind. I also suspect that many others in this thread have similar sentiments by now. This is fixable, if you still care to fix it. But the onus is on you here, Dan. I don't hate you at all, but I also don't t
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I haven’t read every single post after mine, but I read Munawar’s, Liam’s, Nocturnus’s, camlorn’s, turtlepower17’s, and Jayde’s posts. If I said they didn’t get me to think about the way I went off, I’d be a filthy liar. I’ve actually been lying on here a little bit already, so it’s time for a bit of truth to come out.For years, I’ve used this forum and social media as an outlet to release all my anger. I’ve been unhappy with myself and unhappy with my situation, so with no regard for anyone else who might be in the path of my anger I unleashed it upon everyone. I know it’s not healthy. It’s not healthy for me, and it’s not healthy for the people I take it out on. I’m an angry, spiteful asshole, and while I’m not really proud to admit it I have to if I’m going to make it better. This is my first step.Now comes the second step. If it’s tempting for me to get mad over social media such as this forum or even Facebook/Twitter, then I’ve got to be rid of it. I’m only ruining my reputation by keeping it around and considering the career I want to get into that would most certainly come back to bight me in the ass. I can’t afford to have any more outbursts like this.I suppose the third step is the hardest, because not only will I need to try to find more healthy ways of unleashing my anger, but I’ll also need to stick to my word and actually go through with the promises I made. I hope that, by taking steps to better myself in this way, my actions will act as my apology. If people hate me now, I don’t blame you. I hope you guys and your families stay safe, and I genuinely mean it. Times are tough now, and just because not everyone isn’t suffering from this virus doesn’t mean nobody is. Take care of yourselves. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537431/#p537431 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @133 nah it's not full sized, something I'm a little dismayed about admittedly and it's why I'll probably get the mech in the next 3 years, which does have a num pad. i'm used to not using num pads though so it's not the end of the world, it does kinda sucks for stuff like the GTA V accessibility mod, though. Unless I'm outside, at a friend's house, in the car or whatever, I'll just game on my desktop URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537412/#p537412 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I think the Raiser laptops have them too, at least the big ones. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537406/#p537406 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I didn't know that they were starting to make laptops with built-in mechanical keyboards. That's pretty cool, though I imagine you have to pay a pretty penny for that feature. Is the one you have a full-size keyboard including the num pad? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537404/#p537404 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @130 If I can't use a laptop how it's supposed to be used, with few exceptions, I gotta get another one. lol. I hate dongle hell and would most definitely hate external peripheral hell. Unless I was using a EGPU thunderbolt doc with extra ports and drives in it of course, which I can actually do with this laptop.Speaking of which, anyone looking for a new laptop should look at the Eluktronics mag 15. It's a really good machine. It actually has dedicated audio i/o jacks unlike most new laptops nowadays, a mechanical keyboard, switches are quiet enough on that, it'll take a little getting used to because the arrows are lumped together with the other keys but they're on the extreme rite side of the keyboard so it's not that confusing.My specs are 32 gb RAM with 2 1 tb m.2 SSDs (I wanted to get 16 gb and 2 tb but that option wasn't available so now it has more RAM than my Ryzen desktop), GTX 1660TI, i79750H 6 core 12 threads. If anyone does buy it though just make sure you choose the thermal grizzly cooling otherwise you're gonna deal with throttling issues.Only things I don't like about it is that the SD card reader is kind of cheeks and you gotta set up the drivers a certain way. That's literally the only issues. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537400/#p537400 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Hi,So I read through pretty much all of this, and I admit when I started reading, I feared this would degenerate due to the sensative subject matter. It didn't though, thank goodness.As many have already said,I think we all need to take time to reflect and step back every so often. Sometimes, we don't, bottle everything up and explode. Sadly as much as people tell you this, it doesn't always sink in until it's too late and you've screwed up something, be it a relationship with somebody you care about, or any number of things. It's how we deal with that which is important. We either take responsability that we have a problem and figure out how not to repeat it, or we blame others for our problems and push more and more people away. Growing up is a huge part of this. I fucked up majorly when I was a teenager and messed arguably one of the best friendship/relationships of my life because I was too immature to realise that I was causing a problem and not dealing with it. Now I don't recognise that person and can know for a fact that I'm far better at dealing with things and stopping myself from responding angrily to most things, despite a situation that happened last year which destroyed me mentally I had every right to be furious about. Instead, I figured out that I needed help and spoke to those I knew I could count on to be honest with me. If I fucked up, I wanted to know and for them not to pull any punches with sympathy. I didn't though, which oddly enough didn't help. Anyway, that's a whole nother topic and evidently I still need to get something out as evidenced by this. One thing I've always loved about this community is that yes there can be some trolling and shitposting going about like any forum, but the fact that more often than not people will help each other out is wonderful. Let's be honest, we're all going through a pretty crappy time right now, so no doubt there are people in worse situations than others. So if you're getting heated or angry reading something, step back, and take some perspective. Play a game, listen to some music made with kitchen appliances; thanks for that gem Nocturnus, and try to stay positive. I realise this might have been a bit of a ramble. But I love a good ramble. and puns. anybody else love puns? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537393/#p537393 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I have a Windows laptop which will last for about eight hours on a full charge. Considering I got the damn thing about two and a half years ago, I'm pretty pleased with this. To be fair though, I do have an external keyboard, and keep the laptop itself shut wherever possible because its keyboard is absolute trash, and always has been. If I were using the laptop more conventionally, it'd last about five and a half hours. Still, it's more than the hour suggested. Heh. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537379/#p537379 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @117, nien URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537373/#p537373 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Majestic blubber? I like it! I seriously like it! I'm so stealing that! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537309/#p537309 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @NolanYou can actually change the number of posts on each page to 75 in your profile, same for topics in rooms.You can also change timezone for post tags there. It's glorious.@DevinpraterLOL, majestic blubber. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537304/#p537304 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Sometimes, no pain, no gain! Long as its \consensual, take the fuckin taco pal. lol@124 What you thinkin bout over there? heheh URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537296/#p537296 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Am i watching god of war series, but in a different style? just chill out before you kill everyone, mr giro. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537295/#p537295 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Well... yeah, hmm. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537291/#p537291 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Nah, that just makes you a member of the BDSM community. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537283/#p537283 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Then you're an evil person. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537280/#p537280 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? But what if darkness pain and suffering bring some of us happiness URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537277/#p537277 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Okay y'all, because I'm locked down too, and because I've found the secret to living through this with at least some slight form of sanity remaining, I'll share the secret. I know, its very OOC for me to do all this, but it's helped a lot.1. Laugh. Find stuff to smile and laugh about, like daily_merry's sarcasm, described cat pictures on Mastodon, and books that make you feel like there is hope, I recommend Brandon Sanderson; best author ever.2. Don't take things so seriously. I don't care what the media says, we all aren't going to die. At least, not all of us, and maybe not that many of us. We may be trapped inside our homes, and in my case even while the state cautiously opens up, where I live hasn't opened up. My family can come to the door, but they can't come in. And I don't have Uber Eats, or Door Dash, or Instacart to bring me McDonald's three times a day in order to become fat enough to cover the whole world in my majestic blubber. As I've said, I only have a semblance of sanity in these times.3. Read! Download a book and spend time reading! And no, no dark stuff that'll make you want to hotel in absolute woe, either. Something good, something wholesome, something that will make you imagine the future and how great it'll be, something that'll help you feel more alive.4. Find people to voice chat with. I don't take this advice because "socializing? What's that?" but do as I say, not as I do. You don't want to go crazy, do you?5. Go outside. No, not outer space. You may know of it: that place that you come to when you open your front door and step forward out of the doorway. Yes, that place that may be very hot, or rather cold, or very cold. I assume that you have the required clothes to stand the current climate in your area. Find a chair, or bring one, and sit outside for a while. Your laptop should last an hour or so (Windows), or eight or nine, (Mac), or somewhere in between (Linux), so bring that with you. Do your school work on it, do your job on it, play games, listen to music, cry a little as your ears are filled with the musical wail of woe, from a world searching for something greater than itself. Erm, maybe not that last one but you get the idea.So yeah, Dan, try that. And if you are religious, pray to your god, read your holy text, and maybe look up, try to find the thing that is more than oneself. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537276/#p537276 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Oh heck yes! yes! nocturnus vs Dark's gonna be cool URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537273/#p537273 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Oh man, what would happen if we watched Nocturnus and Dark go at it? Things would turn very interesting indeed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537271/#p537271 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? ah cm'on people, talk normally URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537265/#p537265 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Me comprende completemente and thus am insultidized so poco that my face has split into a goofy grin of shere delight. Yes, just a bit of expensive spanish there for ya, sad thing is I'm not going to get paid for it.I'm nowhere near as proficient with English as I wish I werzes and was and wuzzes and what ever's. All I know is that butchering languages for a bit of comical and satirical relief is fun.Once again I asktificate you to allow me to transliterize for your understandiffication that I find a farious amount of amuseitude in the overall disassemblification and manipulatizing of verbalisms and linguism as has been the casing where above postage is concernified. I humblifically plead that you simply show your ignoration under these circumstancifications where such verbalisms are presencitised so as to keep hold of any semblancism of sanitificity you may still possesify. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537250/#p537250 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Within the interestification of audiogamians on this forumanian my SQL databasificational storage container, I wish to state that do to nocturnalificationalisms vialationising my constatutionalational rightifications, I must here by translatify his postification in to understandably understandiblised english the better for the rest of us to understandify the darkest secrets of nocturnalism.@112, I have been trying to ignore your situation. That being said, I fully know that your situation is something I have never encountered, so although I cannot claim to understand it, due to various differences, I will never be completely out of the question. I hope I can sympathize with you as much as I can, even if my belief is different from you and will always be different from you.In this case, I will simply reiterate my statement here and elsewhere. I don't fully understand you and others like you, but I do accept you. Because I don’t understand, sometimes I may say something that makes you feel uncomfortable or even offends. I swear to correct myself at all costs. If it has happened and I don’t know it, I’m sorry here and now, and I’m sorry for you first, because sometimes some people don’t want to do it, just to avoid further inciting or aggravating the situation. Saying that I am not perfect is sometimes like hiding behind a mask. You can throw any insult under it in a subconscious, secret way. My goal is not to do this, but know that I cannot always do the right thing. This is a simple and clear fact.Oh, is there any? I sincerely hope that you will be overwhelmed with humanity and all honest sympathy.I don't know what my future will be, but I do know who owns my future.Heh, I'm nowhere near as much of a linguistic guru as nocturnous over here, but I try. Oh, and remember, Spanish people are very, very expensive, and it may be difficult for them to understand. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537237/#p537237 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @112, I've tried never to make light of your situation. that having been said, I'm fully aware your situation is one I've never been faced with, so while I can't claim I understand and will never fully be able to put myself in your shoes because of all the differences, I want to be able to sympathize with you to the best of my abilities, even if my beliefs differ from yours and will always differ from yours.That being the case, I will simply reiterate what I've said here and to some extent elsewhere. I don't fully understand you and others like you, but I do accept you. Because I don't understand there will be times when I may say things that may make you feel uncomfortable, perhaps even offended. I vow to do my best to correct myself at all costs. If it's already happened and I'm not aware of it I'm sorry here and now, and I'm sorry in advance because sometimes there are those who would not say it just to keep from instigating or escalating a situation further. Saying I'm not perfect is to me, sometimes like hiding behind a mask beneath which you can throw any number of insults in a somewhat subliminal, cryptic way. I aim not to do that but know I can't always do it right; that's just the truth plain and simple.Oh, and also? It is with the intrestitude of humanitism and all honestitized compassionism that I sincereously wishitize you a most excessivetaciously wonderifically sidereal timespanification. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537227/#p537227 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? FWIW, I apologize for my contributions to this thread.I think that, at the point when I chimed in, it really just looked like shit-stirring. And it kind of blew my mind that there was nothing better to do than stir up a dead thread and get angry about it. And, while I wasn't angry at all about the previous thread, I put the keyboard down, sat out on the patio for a bit, then masked up and headed over to my girlfriend's for dinner.Point is, I had something to do and somewhere to go. My heart truly does go out to those of you who don't. That isn't to say you have a get-out-of-jail-free card to do whatever you want. But mental health is a tricky subject, and me pointing out the problem and acting astounded that this was really happening, well, it missed the fact that there are underlying conditions at play here.And I think that goes for others as well. One person points out that Dan can't and shouldn't blame others for his temper. Point made. If he says "nuh-uh, I'm gonna," that's fine. A point isn't automatically true just because the person who says it was the last to speak. Dan wasn't right here, but we all (myself included) didn't have to yell "Calm down. Calm down! CAALLLMMM DOWNN!!!" louder and louder and louder until we now have a,what, 5-page thread about one person's anger. And Dan, if you're reading this, I am sorry that you're in the situation you are. FWIW, I've actually been in that situation myself, albeit not with a raging virus, so I can empathize. I spent about a year in a small town with a laughably bad public transit system and shitty walkability (seriously, my left foot fell in a 3-foot-deep hole that was perfectly sized for my shoe because my cane tip didn't land on it, and I showed up caked in mud.) I get it. I hope that you can find peace in your situation, and I hope that we do a better job of not making things worse for you. You do have a responsibility to control your temper. You know that, because I've seen you point it out before. But we all could have done a better job of not poking the bear here, and for my part, I intend to do that going forward. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537225/#p537225 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @95, extremely well said, and thank you. I'd like to say I'm in a better place than I was back in Febuary, but the truth is that that is not the case, I've just gotten somewhat better at dealing with it. I can understand where Dan was coming from though, and I know how it can be all too easy to go off the rails at a community or group of people because you feel like you have nothing else to lose, and might as well make some noise on the way out. I rarely check PM's on here these days, but anyone can feel free to drop me an email, twitter DM, facebook message, discord, whatever. Even if it's just to vent your frustrations about the cosmos. I know I've been somewhat of an asshole in this topic, and believe me that is something I'm trying to work on in spite of all the fucked up shit going on in my own life right now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537218/#p537218 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @Jayde, part of the reason I haven't brought up any concerns is precisely that, that I know you are going to listen, which is why I'm waiting for something major rather than just quibbling back and forth about the minor stuff. If I bring something up I want to know that you're going to take me seriously on the grounds that I'm not just bringing everything to your attention. Honestly? I think overall I can get behind more or less all you do and all you've done thus far. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537206/#p537206 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I said very, very early on that I can stand a lot of heat. I'm more than willing to get stuck right in and take a kicking if that's what it takes. Sometimes this is good, because it means you can put me out front and I won't just blow up with the strain. Sometimes it's bad, because I don't take it sitting still and I'll eventually kick back, sometimes very hard.So what's the point, you ask? I don't like being quiet, even when tactically it might be wiser to do so. I'm working on that. But I believe in honesty, and I believe in standing up for what is right, both personally and for the forum. Sure, I could've thrown in the towel, but I truly believe that despite some mistakes - some far bigger than others - I'm doing a fair amount of good here. I'm by no means alone in this. The other staff members, and many individuals not on the staff team, are also doing a lot of good work here, so this isn't a glory-grabbing situation by any stretch. But I feel like I'm doing good, and I want to go on doing that, learning from it, admitting when I screw up, and generally just being a relatively stable presence. If it ever gets to a point where this place is taking too great a toll on my mental health, my overall happiness or my stability, though I will have to leave. We're not at that point yet; I have pretty thick skin. Until then, here I am.I'm definitely glad that this thread appears to have calmed down, and am only hoping that Dan is taking some time to mull over what he's gotten here.If anyone ever wants to have it out with me on a moderation decision but does not want to cause drama, feel free to shoot me a private message, and we'll chat about it. Defender has already taken me up on this at least twice, and while I can't promise I'll agree with you, I'll hear you out and will consider what you've said. Sometimes it will mean straight-up admitting I was wrong. Sometimes it'll mean me explaining - sometimes at greath length - why I disagree. Either way, my door is open, and I hope that goes for most of the rest of you when trouble hits. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537199/#p537199 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Either that or he's just flat out ignoring this thread now, which comes to the same thing, really. I'll acknowledge some of you in just a minute if you decide to keep on reading because again I think you're worth it, but I want to first say that in reality, you can't make someone on a forum do anything, and that's the beauty of it. We're going to prove it. We're going to prove the point and will in all reality win the argument all the way through regardless whether he likes it or not. But this isn't about winning the argument; it's about helping him own up to the facts. If he comes back in here with another flaming post about how his life sucks and the forum is to blame, he'll prove it. He doesn't have to. ON the other hand, if he chooses to stay away from this topic and indeed even the forum, or at least not post for awhile, a good, long while, while he collects himself, nurses his bruised ego or whatever else the case may be, and put on his big boy pants as Liam put it, growing up, in essence, he'll be doing himself a favor and proving our point, yet again. He doesn't have to. whichever way he spins the ball at this point, he's got it in his cort and the choice is entirely his as to how he spins it. I urge the rest of you to remain calm and collective. As incensitive as some of the garbage is on here, the past 15 or so posts are proof that it doesn't have to be an absolute descent into madness.And now, for some Acknowledging! Hold on tight to your seats and don't wet your pants just because you got some nightmarish Nocturninja praise; I promise you it doesn't come with a cooky. If that's what you're looking for, try your nearest Mcdonalds.@Jayde, 96, you always shock me in a pleasant way. As I keep watching you grow since taking the moderation hat I arguably may or may not have thrown away too quickly and putting it on, I've seen you take on a roll which was, at the time you took it, much greater than the one I first assumed, and which has become even bigger still since that time. I cannot imagine the strain it puts on you and at times, as selfish as this is going to sound, I hardly want to, given the things I felt when closing down topics or just flat out handing down a simple moderation warning. I do try to put myself in your shoes, however, but I know I'm not doing it justice given I'm not at all in your shoes and more than likely never will be. It would not be an overstatement in my opinion to say that this community owes you for the great service you've put forth in your duties when you could have taken the choice to step back and tossed it all away.@NevEd, I'm going to kill two birds with one stone with you, 97 and 100. I love seeing you write when you actually decide to take it seriously as you did in these two posts. You remind me of me in many respects. You've got just enough snark in you to be a satirist but not to come across as an overly cocky jerk in your posts. The fact that you humble yourself to the point of apology and that you're willing to more or less do a 180 yourself when you see that someone else is willing to walk the extra mile before you or when you see someone else putting their best foot forward is itself respectable. Yes, I had a lot of the issues you have now. I used to view my parents as religious fanatics who's life revolved around Jesus and church and cramming their beliefs down everyone's sthroat. If you read my posts, you will discover that I'm on the other side now, and while I don't always showcase it, I don't believe it is always necessary to do so as a Christian, or at least not in the sense that many of them feel they must. I believe in God, believe in Jesus and many of the other things you and others have heard where he's concerned, but don't expect you to believe them just because I do. We'll leave it there and go on with our lives until you, or anyone else wishes to discuss them with me personally and not in a setting where everyone feels like they have an debate to win. Otherwise? Live and let live. If free will is as real as christians claim it is and believe it to be, they must acknowledge it entirely and without trying to restrain others from it. I try to live by that.@defender, 99, thanks for the clarification. I probably could have ascertained as much if I had chosen to carefully read your writing; don't blame it entirely on yourself. I was short on sleep and feeling somewhat irritable... I just felt you were worht complimenting last night because you lost me with one post and hooked me with another. :d@simba, post 102, Might I kindly and humbly ask you to take a step back and look at what you wrote here? I want you to self-examine for a minute. would you take an I'm sorry right now from him? I know I wouldn't. He could come in here and throw together the most wonderfully worded apology he's ever written, and I still wouldn't take it. Why? Because he's done it before. Do I
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? why does drama have to revolve around the same people lolits also good in a way so you know who to avoid URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537180/#p537180 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I think the author of this thread is actually taking your advices to heart. He hasn't posted since half way through the last page. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537164/#p537164 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Hi.Also @danGero, try meditation, it might help you calm down. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537162/#p537162 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Hi.@danGero, it is totally on you how you react.You're stuck in the house? SO are tuns of others, you want to blame social media, delete social media. The only social media I have is reddit.I think you said you were alone in your house, man be thankful you have a house to be alone in. I'd love my own flat but it's impossible to get one in London and it will still be impossible after the virus clears up or whatever's going to happpen to this country.You could watch youtube, learn to cook a different dish if you have food items in your house, listen to podcasts, listen to the radio, read fan fiction, play an audiogame, read a book, I'm sure tehre's more but these are just the things I can think of. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537161/#p537161 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Before I started reading this topic, my head was in that weird state where you feel as if a headache might or might not be coming on. Well, that headache definitely is there now, and I feel exhausted and disappointed.But yes, that most certainly is MY fault. I chose to open this topic knowing it would be terrible. I chose to continue reading when I got proof it was, and even when it was clear it was starting to effect me.It is my fault because I could've also done ... almost anything else. I could've gone to read another topic. I could've opened Mastodon, where I have a nice set of filters for avoiding the topics that bring me the most stress. I could've watched some Youtube videos. I could've talked to people on Discord. I could've read a book. I could've ... I think you get the point.I'm not victim blaming here. When someone is actually abusing you, hurting you, manipulating you, what not, it is not your fault. But on a public forum, nobody is telling you what to read, what to respond to, how to react to it. And even if you do encounter something that effects you negatively by accident, you can control yourself. That's one of the things that makes us different from other animals, is it not? We don't just act by instinct, we can control ourselves.That's why, even though I'm not feeling all that good, I haven't written even a single fucking swear ... oh. Sorry. So yeah, Dan, I cannot agree with your opinion that it is other people's fault that they make you angry with their posts on a public, easily avoidable forum. I can see how it might feel like you're stuck here, because you don't know where else to go. But the internet is huge. Unimaginably so. If you do not feel well here, then I promise, somewhere there is a community of people made out of pure awesomeness that would fit you better -- at least if you don't then start drama there as well.I'm not saying you should leave -- though I must admit, the thought has crossed my mind, especially if you really believe it is not your responsibility to control yourself -- but if this place is really so bad for your mental health, perhaps a break might be wise. You have an incredible amount of power on here, far more than you could have in real life, and it's time to put it to good use.because if you don't ...I'm not quite sure what the point of this post was. It won't change anything. But in short, I really don't like you right now, because I'm getting sick of all this drama. But even so, I hope you'll feel well soon.And this goes for the rest of you too, of course. Stay safe and well. Not just physically. Mentally, too.Edit: Fixing a typo. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537131/#p537131 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I'd just like to point out really quickly that the word "homophobia" is an example of the evolution of language.If you break it down, "homo" means "like" or "the same as", and "phobia" means "fear". It's true. But the meaning of the word now is very clearly a hatred, fear, mistrust or unreasoned prejudice of or toward homosexual people or actions. Language is ever evolving and changing, so trying to cite the original Greek or Latin roots of a word in order to attempt to render a term or label absurd is...well, calling it a deflection is kind, and calling it wilfully obtuse is only half of the story.Again, language evolves. The meaning of the word "homophobia" is now extremely clear in a cultural sense. You can argue with it, but while you're at it, you might as well argue that blue isn't even blue.I sympathize a great deal with those of you who are struggling more by being stuck in the house, or who have been forced to lose your livelihoods over this whole Covid situation. It can lead to all kinds of mental health struggles, and the hell of it is that they'll manifest differently for everyone. For me, it's a disruption of my sleep schedule, a desire to sleep more, a periodic lack of motivation and the sense that I'm reaching something of a breaking point when it comes to certain issues that I am simply not willing to soft-pedal. For others, it can look like all sorts of things. I can disagree with the things a person says all the way down to the ground, and I might even challenge those opinions loudly if I think there's a reason (and, let's be real, sometimes when there isn't a reason). But I care about people, and if there is some way I can help any of you, please let me know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537142/#p537142 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Before I started reading this topic, my head was in that weird state where you feel as if a headache might or not be coming on. Well, that headache definitely is there now, and I feel exhausted and disappointed.But yes, that most certainly is MY fault. I chose to open this topic knowing it would be terrible. I chose to continue reading when I got proof it was, and even when it was clear it was starting to effect me.It is my fault because I could've also done ... almost anything else. I could've gone to read another topic. I could've opened Mastodon, where I have a nice set of filters for avoiding the topics that bring me the most stress. I could've watched some Youtube videos. I could've talked to people on Discord. I could've read a book. I could've ... I think you get the point.I'm not victim blaming here. When someone is actually abusing you, hurting you, manipulating you, what not, it is not your fault. But on a public forum, nobody is telling you what to read, what to respond to, how to react to it. And even if you do encounter something that effects you negatively by accident, you can control yourself. That's one of the things that makes us different from other animals, is it not? We don't just act by instinct, we can control ourselves.That's why, even though I'm not feeling all that good, I haven't written even a single fucking swear ... oh. Sorry. So yeah, Dan, I cannot agree with your opinion that it is other people's fault that they make you angry with their posts on a public, easily avoidable forum. I can see how it might feel like you're stuck here, because you don't know where else to go. But the internet is huge. Unimaginably so. If you do not feel well here, then I promise, somewhere there is a community of people made out of pure awesomeness that would fit you better -- at least if you don't then start drama there as well.I'm not saying you should leave -- though I must admit, the thought has crossed my mind, especially if you really believe it is not your responsibility to control yourself -- but if this place is really so bad for your mental health, perhaps a break might be wise. You have an incredible amount of power on here, far more than you could have in real life, and it's time to put it to good use.because if you don't ...I'm not quite sure what the point of this post was. It won't change anything. But in short, I really don't like you right now, because I'm getting sick of all this drama. But even so, I hope you'll feel well soon.And this goes for the rest of you too, of course. Stay safe and well. Not just physically. Mentally, too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537131/#p537131 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Hi.At dan-Gero you still didn't apologize to me for dragging me into this, what about you doing that?Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537114/#p537114 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I find it interesting that a certain group of people in society use the term "homophobic" when the term doesn't even apply to that situation at all. The term "homo" has to do with the idea of something being the same, and "phobic" has to do with fear of something. So, when someone labels another as homophobic, all they are really saying is that the person they've labeled as such merely fears things that are the same. Since we are all humans, homo sapiens, that must mean there sure is a lot of fear out there according to those who would use that term "homophobic".I also am sick and tired of people that get offended when someone uses a certain term, and then they go out and do the exact same thing. It's like being back in elementary school where a child would have a fit when someone else would do something, but would be perfectly cool with doing the same thing him/herself. Many of you, I can tell, understand where I'm coming from. I also know that some who view this may be offended, and that's fine with me as you have that right. I don't mind someone disagreeing with me on something, not at all. However, if you disagree with someone, don't just bash them, but back up your reason for disagreeing. I also thank whomever started this thread as you brought up these points in a good way. I also hope the rest of you out there are still hanging in there after all of this time being locked away like jailbirds. I feel for all of you. I have totally lost my career over this insanity, and now am forced to have to go through a career change which, I fervently hope, will work out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537109/#p537109 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @98 Thanks for the thoughtful response.**gets personal**Lol! Definitely impulsive. Not the impulsive go to a party and get shitfaced and throw up in someone's hamper, but as for flipping out on people that irritate me, you're rite in that respect.I am most definitely aware of how different the economy is here. ADoseOfBuckly did a bit about an article that stated that "melennials are killing industries", which cracked me up, even though I'm technically not a melennial. But fewer and fewer younger people are buying houses anymore.Only thing that's really expected of me is to just handle my shit, laundry, phone bill, etc. Which is fine by me. Theirs a lot of kids in the house, another blind 8 year old, a 5 y/o that literally runs everywhere and get into every fucking thing, a 15 y/o sister and a 13 y/o brother, who I hang with a lot, even though he sometimes irritates the shit out of me but he's kinda supposed to do that, he's 13 lol. They don't really expect me to handle the kids solo, least of all the youngest one, but I'm usually down there with my brother anyway, just in case some shit happens. But I don't trust my ears anymore and I'm definitely not about to knock myself out trying to run after that little girl. lmao.Lethargy is definitely an issue for me and I think it's just cause I'm so used to being socially isolated and relegated to the house, that any work (mainly school related) I do have to do is much bigger than it really is. Ironically enough I passed the class that made me lose motivation to complete my 2 majors was my math class, I hate math, and it's not even math directly related to computers. Passed the english one also, which while boring, it was business english and I understood its importance. That's all my fault though.As I said before I wanted to kick shit into gear this year but covid, for the most part, shut everything down. I really don't ask for much either, I'd honestly rather room with someone/find a chick that doesn't make me hurl to move in with, just because I don't trust my ears that much anymore and to balance out the blindness vs sighted dynamic. I'm sure some people are gonna ridicule me for that but to each their own.I definitely don't feel like I have the freedom I had when I was at dorms or could have if I wasn't here. Example. I'm a recording artist and I'd personally like to record whatever the fuck I please and be allowed to explore shit without someone telling me I can't say x, y and z. Not to mention the noise. I know I shouldn't give a shit but I also don't like getting into arguments over stuff either. Also doesn't help when you feel like you have to keep a section of yourself closed off from your family because you know they'd find something wrong with it. I don't enjoy that, either. Saying you don't like Trump is practically a dirty word in this house. And I don't occupy either extreme, honestly. I just don't want to get into arguments with the guy that's largely in charge of everything in the damn house. I guess I don't like answering to people and their expectations, really.It's not all bad though by any means. I don't hate my parents at all. I just don't agree with them on everything, some little some big, one of my grandparents lives with us (old school religious type), and I hate organized religion. He's a good dude but I'd really just rather avoid the morality/difference clash and just take my ball somewhere else if possible. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537087/#p537087 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @nocturnusYeah, I sometimes write my stream of thoughts without translating them to something actually understandable, but can't think of a way to express the same thing as well in a more normal way.Basically, what I was saying in post 87 is that I would have had a hard time deciding weather or not to say something about the (straight) comment if I was a moderator too, despite the fact that unlike Jade, I'm not even that far left.Also, because of how the word was used, I wouldn't have expected it to be short for (straight up) despite the fact that I've heard that phrase before my self. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537075/#p537075 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @nocturnusYeah, I sometimes write my stream of thoughts without translating them to something actually understandable, but can't think of a way to express the same thing in a more normal way.Basically, what I was saying in post 87 is that I would have had a hard time deciding weather or not to say something about the (straight) comment if I was a moderator too, despite the fact that unlike Jade, I'm not even that far left. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537075/#p537075 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @nocturnusYeah, I sometimes write my stream of thoughts without translating them to something actually understandable, but can't think of a way to say the same thing in a more understandable way.Basically, what I was saying in post 87 is that I would have had a hard time deciding weather or not to say something about the (straight) comment if I was a moderator too, despite the fact that unlike Jade, I'm not even that far left. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537075/#p537075 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Yeah I've found that Jade is allot like me and you NevEd. We come on strong as hell and then back it off as we calm down. It's gotten me into so much shit you wouldn't even believe!It does show people that your honest though, if impulsive.Also, I would try not to worry about the whole being at home at 20 thing so much. Our society and economy is allot different than it was decades ago when you were expected to leave at 16 to 18 years old with no exceptions, and to be honest allot more people live with their parents up until there 30s or 40s than you might think.It's more about contributing to the household as an adult should than getting the hell out IMO. If your helping out financially, even if it's just enough from your social security to cover your food, utilities, phone, and internet costs, or if your helping as much as possible around the house with chores and baby sitting with a minimum of bitching, than your doing your part.It's hard to shake that lingering feeling of shame for not being on your own feet yet, and by no means am I suggesting that you shouldn't be working on school/learning new skills or trying to get a part time job or volunteer opportunity or improving your blindness skills when possible. But you have to agree that logically, you are at a dual disadvantage with blindness and mental shit, and can't realistically be blamed for not being at the same level as some of your peers yet if the system isn't built well enough to help you get there properly as it can with others.I don't know your specific situation. Maybe cultural baggage, family troubles, or serious economic problems make things different for you, but I personally couldn't hold it against you unless you just weren't trying at all in any category. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537074/#p537074 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Yeah I've found that Jade is allot like me and you NevEd. We come on strong as hell and then back it off as we calm down. It's gotten me into so much shit you wouldn't even believe!It does show people that your honest though, if impulsive.Also, I would try not to worry about the whole being at home at 20 thing so much. Our society and economy is allot different than it was decades ago when you were expected to leave at 16 to 18 years old with no exceptions, and to be honest allot more people live with their parents up until there 30s or 40s than you might think.It's more about contributing to the household as an adult should than getting the hell out IMO. If your helping out financially, even if it's just enough from your social security to cover your food, utilities, phone, and internet costs, or if your helping as much as possible around the house with chores and baby sitting with a minimum of bitching, than your doing your part.It's hard to shake that lingering feeling of shame for not being on your own feet yet, and by no means am I suggesting that you shouldn't be working on school/learning new skills or trying to get a part time job or volunteer opportunity or improving your blindness skills when possible. But you have to agree that logically, you are at a dual disadvantage with blindness and mental shit, and can't realistically be blamed for not being at the same level as some of your peers yet if the system isn't built well enough to help you get there properly as it can with others.I don't know your specific situation. Maybe cultural baggage, family troubles, or serious economic problems make things different for you, but I personally couldn't hold it against you unless you just weren't trying. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537074/#p537074 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @Jayde You have my respect. Didn't expect a post like that from you based upon what happened yesterday but you surprised me.Whether people feel differently about things or not they'll learn a lot from you, seeing the guy that is sometimes perceived to have the big hammer at the ready all the time say that maybe he was wrong, or fucked up, whatever it is. That's pretty rare to see from my experience.With that, I don't think it's necessary to dump on Jayde in this topic anymore. So from the guy that definitely didn't help yesterday's situation and received the warning from Jayde, don't belittle him about this situation going forward.And just for the sake of clarity, I don't have a single problem with gay people, trans people, whatever the message may be. My belief is people are gonna do what they feel anyway and everyone lives different lives but we all do shit that brings us together. Problem is people focus on the differences and how they separate us rather than appreciating someone else's perspective. A bi-product of societies built off of class distinction. And why should anyone, let alone myself, be mad at gay people? There's stereotypes for all kinds of different groups because of patterns for sure, but a lot of times, the gayest guy is the guy you least expect to be, from my experience. As long as they don't force it on me, go ahead bro, enjoy life, as we're not the major power players in the world. But what I do have a problem with is entitled people. And when Stirlock indicated why he thought I was ignorant but even more so like I was supposed to understand why I was ignorant, the first thing that went through my mind was "Seriously? Seriously? This goddamn SJW shit again?" And I flipped the fuck out. Every different type of people, no matter what category you place them in, has some entitled assholes in them that have triggers that people that don't have major insecurity issues suspects them to have. Whether your trans, gay, republican, liberal, vegan. Chinese, whatever. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537059/#p537059 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @Jayde You have my respect. Didn't expect a post like that from you based upon what happened yesterday but you surprised me.Whether people feel differently about things or not they'll learn a lot from you, seeing the guy that is sometimes perceived to have the big hammer at the ready all the time say that maybe he was wrong, or fucked up, whatever it is. That's pretty rare to see from my experience.With that, I don't think it's necessary to dump on Jayde in this topic anymore. So from the guy that definitely didn't help yesterday's situation and received the warning from Jayde, don't belittle him about this situation going forward.And just for the sake of clarity, I don't have a single problem with gay people, trans people, whatever the message may be. My belief is people are gonna do what they feel anyway and everyone lives different lives but we all do shit that brings us together. Problem is people focus on the differences and how they separate us rather than appreciating someone else's perspective. A bi-product of societies built off of class distinction. And why should anyone, let alone myself, be mad at gay people? There's stereotypes for all kinds of different groups because of patterns for sure, but a lot of times, the gayest guy is the guy you least expect to be, from my experience. As long as they don't force it on me, go ahead bro, enjoy life, as we're not the major power players in the world. But what I do have a problem with is entitled people. And when Stirlock indicated why he thought I was ignorant but even more so like I was supposed to understand why I was ignorant, the first thing that went through my mind was "Seriously? Seriously? This goddamn SJW shit again?" And I flipped the fuck out. Every different type of people, no matter what category you place them in, has some entitled assholes in them that have triggers that no one with common sense suspects them to have. Whether your trans, gay, republican, liberal, vegan. Chinese, whatever. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537059/#p537059 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @Jayde You have my respect. Didn't expect a post like that from you based upon what happened yesterday but you surprised me.Whether people feel differently about things or not they'll learn a lot from you, seeing the guy that is sometimes perceived to have the big hammer at the ready all the time say that maybe he was wrong, or fucked up, whatever it is. That's pretty rare to see from my experience.With that, I don't think it's necessary to dump on Jayde in this topic anymore. So from the guy that definitely didn't help yesterday's situation and received the warning from Jayde, don't belittle him about this situation going forward. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537059/#p537059 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? So, this exploded. I go away for six hours, and I come back to this.I'll actually keep this brief, as most of what I have wanted to say has already been said extremely well by folks like Defender, Turtlepower, Liam and Nocturnis. But a few things do need clearing up.NevEd's first post was not all that bad. I believe I even said that when I stepped into that thread. Touchy, maybe a little, but not awful at all. You'd have to be pretty thin-skinned to automatically assume the worst from that alone.Stirlock, ahem, stirred things up a bit, NevEd exploded, and based then upon the entirety of the interaction, I made a judgment call. As Defender pointed out, essentially it looks like the sort of thing folks do when they're phobic. Perhaps this was unintentional on your part, NevEd, and if it was, I do apologize. I am not wholly convinced, but it is not an open-and-shut situation. I have seen this sort of pattern literally hundreds of times in social media posts, and in nearly every situation I would have been right to talk about homophobia or transphobia or whatever. Whatever your intentions, you showed a pattern that is pretty easy to spot and recognize and pretty difficult to mistake for anything else. It is possible that I misread you. And it's also possible that, being keyed-up as I am lately from all the silly bullshit I'm seeing in the world at large, I am more primed than normal to call out things when I see them. There's another post on another thread where I do this pretty loudly (not to NevEd, mind you). Point is, this was a bad combo. I'm taking no crap from anyone when it comes to racism of phobic comments, and NevEd comes in and basically lights a bunch of signal-fires. I drew a conclusion, acted on it, but warned him for personal attacks, not for his beliefs.NevEd was not warned for his first post in that thread, and we wouldn't even be having this discussion for that post alone. I'd have just shaken my head and moved on. Not worth getting upset about. But he did escalate far enough that he deserved a warning and got one.I also had some of my personal observations under the moderation heading. I am used to sticking a moderation notice at the top of a post, but in this case, it was wrong to have done so. I fixed it last night and I'm sorry that I did that. I feel that I'm entitled to the opinion I voiced, but it is not a staff opinion, it's a personal one. I will be better about this going forward. I don't feel that I should have to not put personal opinions forth, but I have to clearly mark them apart from moderation posts, lest it seem to others as if I'm moderating based on personal beliefs. I wasn't, and I don't, but that line can blur, and I contributed to that. I'll own it, and I'll do better. Defender, thank you for pointing this out.Turtlepower, great fucking post. Seriously. Also, I'm very sorry at what you've gone through. I feel extremely fortunate in that the only person I know who's gotten sick got well with few complications and is fine now. Many, many others don't have that privilege.DanGero, I could carry on about your reactions and such, but at this point, I doubt you'll listen to anything coming from me, so I'll leave it to the rest.Oh, speaking of the rest of you, we may want to ease up on the dogpiling a bit. I don't want to have to start moderating this thread. I think there have been some pretty serious tactical mistakes in how this was handled in this thread, but I'd like to see things scale back. Righteous anger is fine. Calling people out on their shit is fine. But taunting, teasing and beating a dead horse just makes everyone involved look petty. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537056/#p537056 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? If I go on posting I'll be accused of tripple posting, at quad-posting, quintiposting and so on, so I'm just going to say, I've been jumping around this topic and there are others who have caught my attention with their words and I'll list them here. @78, truer words were never spoken, which is why I said above that throwing insults on a forum is much easier than taking care of loved ones.@79, hang in there. the alternative is that you turn into the same kind of people you hate and who hate on you. No, it isn't easy, and I wish I hads better words to offer, but I'm doing my best to take my own advice under all the crushing circumstances and duties and obligations I'm tasked with. If there's any way I can help do let me know.@82, you and I don't agree on a lot, but here's another post that I can definitely get behind. sometimes the truth is harsh, but the message was certainly worth the atempted delivery. Sadly, I don't think it'll go through.@87, you can tell your significant other that I'm still the biggest dramaqueen to date on this forum, and that my name is still Nocturninja, and that I still hate pineapples and pineapple pizza, and that my house is full of monkeyfaced banana nosed rattling rabbit eared bouncing Burmese Pythons, and then I'll come back out here and call you a liar, as none of the above is true, which will consequently start another dramafest and... I'm sure you get the point. Actually, no, wait, I still do hate pineapple pizza. so that much is true.At 88, you jumped well the blazes over my head with whatever it was you were trying to say, but you redeemed yourself with 89. that's not easy to do. congratulate yourself on having been able to hook me a post later. Most everyone else would have lost my attention and kept it that way as I would have more than likely skipped over the second. Seriously, good work.Now, can I hit submit and hope this place doesn't explode or that, at least, the topic hasn't been locked down? I need to work on my satire a bit here... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537050/#p537050 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Wow. I'm not even finished reading through the 3rd page but I figured I might as well post my opinion here now before someone comes along to close the topic.@1 I definitely appreciate you having more patience than me to break things down and write a post about it. People are getting a little too wound up about the spelling remark IMO. But hey, like the reason for this post existing in the first place, that's how a lot of people are nowadays. Especially those who haven't seen how truly shit life can be and worry about frivolous trash like that. I don't think you should be getting as pissed as you are outwardly but I definitely understand where the frustration is coming from and I agree with you pretty much completely. It's funny that the people here talking about "don't care, you're stirring up shit" or implicating stuff without proof, and then being replied too, and then being sarcastic assholes about it are being hypocritical.Make the euphomism excuse if you wish but that's not how things work. It's its own separate topic and it wasn't even that inflamatory to begin with besides the general point of "YOU GUYS ARE BEING RIDICULOUS AND OVERREACTING." If you don't care, just leave it, because being a snarky prick will definitely not send the topic into a downward spiral of insults sprayed at everyone. And the people claiming that others are acting as if their morally superior, are themselves thinking they're morally superior by saying that others should do what they themselves feel is appropriate and that's that, without any logic or reason, or for others to express their opinions/grievances. That's stupid. While I did go off on Stirlock harder than I really needed to, I still had a valid reason for answering him, being called "ignorant." Which any person with dignity shouldn't really appreciate. I don't make posts without knowing what I'm talking about, or without at the very least admitting not knowing everything, which I even did later in the topic. I did put a spoiler warning in my post however because I was informed that people may not want that particular bit of the story to be spoiled.As for Jayde and the warning post, I definitely shouldn't have attacked Stirlock like that but I think people that have went through instances where one word is said and a blanket is thrown over you will understand where the fucking boiling rage came from. I definitely was the aggressor and IMO him calling me dumb wasn't even worth warning him for IMO. You get what you give. If I was calmer and he still flipped shit on me, yeah, me being me I definitely would've ripped him a new one. But back to Jayde, it's just another one of those situations where you have to agree to disagree and just stay out of each other's way. I'll take the warning for crawling up Stirlock's ass but I think my general statements that weren't really meant to throw absolutely everyone under the bus upset him a little bit, and I don't know what he went through in life, I'm not gonna even bother him or argue with him, as I said, the warning was justified, but taking bits of other people's words to throw them into another political extreme just because of gross coincidence irritates the shit out of me. Theirs no rite political side, party, wing, etc IMO, but that's another topic and I'm not getting into that because frankly I don't have the patience.But everyone, collectively, just chill out a little bit, and don't contradict yourselves, even though we all do sometimes, and sometimes for valid reasons. And I'm including myself here. Because that's what I did, and I was wrong for that, because I effected others.Now that that's out of the way, if people still have issues with me, and feel the need to snarkily reply to this post, I quite frankly don't give a shit and the entertainment would be welcome. Nobody is required to like me, or you, or anyone else. Doesn't mean you should claw their eyes out at the drop of a hat, either.That is all.PEACEEdit: One more thing. Well actually 2. I've been living a relatively socially isolated life for a long time now, since middle school. Mostly my own fault. Social isolation is fucking horrible for the psyche and you lose skills that you didn't know you had until they're gone, and develop habits that you don't know you have until you try to do "normal" things that you haven't done in a long time. And when you not only have blindness to deal with, but also a progressive hearing loss that showed up in your middle school years that gets worse and worse, shit is fucking tough. Granted I didn't do much to try and counteract my current lifestyle and not make it worse (frankly because I didn't know any better at the time), but different people respond to their circumstances differently. Case and point, living like this definitely has made me (and others) more hotheaded, because when you live a life on the internet like I do because
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Heaven help me, 90 was a great read, too. Every time I feel there's no hope for this place, I try to remember these little tidbits that are like little rays of sunshine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537046/#p537046 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? And @Liam, post 77, hats off to ya, man. Our situations may be different, but I admire you for taking yours on. Mine consists of caring for four kids and a wife with an auto-immune disease along with other complications. Thankfully, the arrival of her service dog has given her some semblance of freedom back, but I know she'd prefer it be any other way than this. When it comes to physical work around here that needs done I'm going to do it. when it comes to meeting and greeting people at the door, I'm doing it. When it comes to checking the mail, taking out the trash, carting in the groceries, making sure the kids are fed, showered, cleaned after and their messes picked up, I'm doing it. and at the end of the day, when she's hungry, thirsty, feeling like dirt and in pain, needing to talk, to vent, to pour out her frustrations because things aren't the way she wishes they would be, I'm here for that, too. but I admire your situation for a completely different reason... I hope you're still reading.So yeah, to all the danGero's out there, remember Liam. If you don't want to remember me, remember Liam. My grandfather died about a year ago, and my greatest regret to date is that I couldn't be there with him when he passed away, but I had my own wife and kids to take care of, but I learned from my parents that it's not all about myself. They took care of that man through and through, while he slipped further and further away from them, to the bitter end. I don't know who Liam is taking care of or why, but that he's doing it is honestly the greatest tribute he could honestly hope to give them... I wish him well. You can sit on your high-horse and claim to hell and back that your life is being made miserable by other people. You're nonsensical and not worth listening to. If we all took that attitude we'd tell our parents and grandparents to kill themselves so we could get on with our lives. I'd go tell my children to run off and never come back. It's called having a heart for humanity... I'm sure Liam doesn't always feel it, and I'm sure he doesn't always know how to express it even when he does. But that he undertakes the job that he's undertaking is more than coming onto a forum and spewing forth a bunch of crud about how the world has done him wrong and how nothing he can do is going to fix it for him. He's not trying to fix it for him, because to do that, he'd tell that 91 year old, whoever they are to snuff it and do it quickly.You can come out here and throw insults all you like; that's easy. Or, or you can be like Liam. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537043/#p537043 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Wow. I'm not even finished reading through the 3rd page but I figured I might as well post my opinion here now before someone comes along to close the topic.@1 I definitely appreciate you having more patience than me to break things down and write a post about it. People are getting a little too wound up about the spelling remark IMO. But hey, like the reason for this post existing in the first place, that's how a lot of people are nowadays. Especially those who haven't seen how truly shit life can be and worry about frivolous trash like that. I don't think you should be getting as pissed as you are outwardly but I definitely understand where the frustration is coming from and I agree with you pretty much completely. It's funny that the people here talking about "don't care, you're stirring up shit" or implicating stuff without proof, and then being replied too, and then being sarcastic assholes about it are being hypocritical.Make the euphomism excuse if you wish but that's not how things work. It's its own separate topic and it wasn't even that inflamatory to begin with besides the general point of "YOU GUYS ARE BEING RIDICULOUS AND OVERREACTING." If you don't care, just leave it, because being a snarky prick will definitely not send the topic into a downward spiral of insults sprayed at everyone. And the people claiming that others are acting as if their morally superior, are themselves thinking they're morally superior by saying that others should do what they themselves feel is appropriate and that's that, without any logic or reason, or for others to express their opinions/grievances. That's stupid. While I did go off on Stirlock harder than I really needed to, I still had a valid reason for answering him, being called "ignorant." Which any person with dignity shouldn't really appreciate. I don't make posts without knowing what I'm talking about, or without at the very least admitting not knowing everything, which I even did later in the topic. I did put a spoiler warning in my post however because I was informed that people may not want that particular bit of the story to be spoiled.As for Jayde and the warning post, I definitely shouldn't have attacked Stirlock like that but I think people that have went through instances where one word is said and a blanket is thrown over you will understand where the fucking boiling rage came from. I definitely was the aggressor and IMO him calling me dumb wasn't even worth warning him for IMO. You get what you give. If I was calmer and he still flipped shit on me, yeah, me being me I definitely would've ripped him a new one. But back to Jayde, it's just another one of those situations where you have to agree to disagree and just stay out of each other's way. I'll take the warning for crawling up Stirlock's ass but I think my general statements that weren't really meant to throw absolutely everyone under the bus upset him a little bit, and I don't know what he went through in life, I'm not gonna even bother him or argue with him, as I said, the warning was justified, but taking bits of other people's words to throw them into another political extreme just because of gross coincidence irritates the shit out of me. Theirs no rite political side, party, wing, etc IMO, but that's another topic and I'm not getting into that because frankly I don't have the patience.But everyone, collectively, just chill out a little bit, and don't contradict yourselves, even though we all do sometimes, and sometimes for valid reasons. And I'm including myself here. Because that's what I did, and I was wrong for that, because I effected others.Now that that's out of the way, if people still have issues with me, and feel the need to snarkily reply to this post, I quite frankly don't give a shit and the entertainment would be welcome. Nobody is required to like me, or you, or anyone else. Doesn't mean you should claw their eyes out at the drop of a hat, either.That is all.PEACE URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537040/#p537040 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @Dan_Gero, and with post 24 you just proved my point. I said above that the phobes come out with time and words and you're not looking good. There was no reason to throw the snowflake reference in to support your argument, but what really did it for me personally is the fact that you stated you just offended half the forum and didn't care. so I guess Liam's right and you're seriously not trying to do anyone any real good. I'm sorry for jumping into this argument, but I'm glad I did in a sense to prove post 4.Whatever my issues may be with hot buttons that trigger people where words are concerned, the fact is that I do care. I do care if I offend people. I do care about respect. I do care about making sure that my points come across as I intend them to and not as personal attacks or misinterpretations. You? You don't care. At the end of the day, for all your apologies and I'm sorries and any post in which you claim you jumped the gun and you feel remorse/ It all comes to nothing when you do stuff like this. Yes, this discussion needs to be had, but you probably weren't the best person for the job of initiating it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537038/#p537038 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @56, you have got to be fucking shitting me right now. I wasn't going to respond to this topic at all (I rarely respond to much on here these days) but any sympathy I had for your cause, of which I had at least a small amount, is completely gone once you start spewing crap like this. Why don't you tell the families of the 1% your views? Do you think they'd like being referred to simply as the 1%? Don't you think that they already feel bad enough, not only because they lost a loved one before their time, but also because right now they, and everyone in their inner, outer, and concentric circle, is being scrutinized not only for statistical purposes, but also because, y'know, they were/could have been carriers?Let me tell you something, when this pandemic first took hold, I was one of the naysayers, cavorting around freely and not giving a solitary shit about the possible consequences. I, like you, thought, "oh, it's just a glorified flu, who cares." One of my least proud moments as a human being, never mind on this forum, was spraying around such toxic vitreal. I leave it here as a testament to the fact that I am a mostly broken work in progress.Then, the unimaginable happened. Someone I deeply care about was badly affected by this virus, this shiny pearl that you claim the media gleefully clutches to their collective bosom as though it were the holy grail of ratings. And, to be fair, it is. But are you shocked? Are you seriously trying to tell me, and everyone else, that you didn't know that the media feeds upon the fear, uncertainty, and weakness of others? If so, well, then I have no words for the amount of sheltered you are. If not, stick with me here, because I'm about to tell you how it feels to be circling that black hole from which there is no return if you find yourself sucked into it, flirting with the disaster that is the 1%.If someone you love gets the flu, or hell, most other treatable, communicable diseases, even if they end up being hospitalized from complications of said disease, there is a semblance of understanding, because you know that medical professionals at least know, in theory, what to do and how to help that person pull through. With something whose origins are as murky as this, with no solid hope for proven treatments or vaccines in sight, there's a much stronger urgency to the situation. Add to that the fact that you're watching someone you love suffer from states away, and there is literally nothing you can do about it, because even if you took the next flight, you could not be by their side due to heightened restrictions imposed by what we don't know about the transmission of this virus... And lest you think it can't happen to you? It can happen to anybody. You know what one of the worst parts of my experience was? While someone who should not have, statistically speaking, suffered complications was doing just that, the hot story in the media was about this previously perfectly healthy 30-year-old dude who was struck down in the fucking prime of his life. And, yes, it was surely sensationalized, but just imagine how it would feel to be inundated with a story like that when both myself and the person I'm speaking of are the same age as the man who passed away.Yes, I'm belaboring this point. Honestly, I feel I'm not doing nearly enough. Just because everything turned out ok for us in the end doesn't mean I have any right to let my guard down, or forget what we both endured. It also means that I must be humble and remember that, while I view what I went through as a traumatizing experience, I have no right to feel that way, since the 1%, as you so thoughtlessly and coldly refer to them as, clearly have experienced much worse than me. So, if you can be reached at all, and you're hopefully not as selfish as your post would have me believe, if you have a modicum of empathy at all, then quit whining about what for you is a mere inconvenience, which, I might add, literally everyone is dealing with to one degree or another. If social media is your only outlet for social interaction, think about the elderly, severely cognitively disabled, and abused who cannot or will not access any of the morsels of interaction you scoff at. When you despair of ever leaving the house again, try thinking of those whose grief has paralyzed them to the point they may never live a normal life, or the families wracked by financial devastation due to unemployment, or the mentally ill whose symptoms have been exacerbated by prolonged isolation, who are even now being brushed off as an afterthought and viewed as "those people" as per usual. then come back to me and keep talking about the 1%, after you've felt what the majority feels. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537037/#p537037 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @danGeroThe death rate is actually 1.3% as of the latest tally, as compared to the flew's average 0.1%.Complicating these numbers is the fact that A. not all deaths have been counted as people have died at home and since many of them are elderly, it can be hard to say if COVID19 was what actually killed them; and B. The flew season fluctuates allot, with the highest recent death count being 61000 between 2017 and 2018, and the average falling somewhere between 3000 and 49000.Either way, this virus is allot worse, and without social distancing we could have had several times that amount of deaths according to the most accurate models.Also, do not forget that A. This is on top of the flew deaths for this year, since the flew didn't just take a vacation, B. The suicide rate went up drastically during this time, C. Economic damage will lead to more homelessness and poverty, and D. Many of those who don't die from the virus but had serious symptoms from it are getting permanent, life altering injuries instead.I say pick up some more hobbies, especially those like reading that allow you to immerse your self in other worlds, or playing a new instrument which requires allot of repetition and focus. Use every possible opportunity to get outside while the weather is good, even if it means just sitting out there or opening a window all the way. I spent 5 months alone and it sucked at times, even with a dog to keep me company for most of it and only moderate stress/depression at my worst.Talk only to the people that matter the most, and don't obsess over what the rest of the world is up to, because you can't change it anyway and you'll have more to come back to if you give things time to happen while your away as well.If you truly crave human interaction, than find a much more positive place to experience it in than this, and don't stray from that place. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537020/#p537020 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I honestly think I would have assumed that NevEd was being homophobic as well, though not seriously so.Straight, used in a context that I've literally never seen (straight up) used in before, followed by a jab at the phrase woke, and a few posts later talking about lunatic leftists? Yeah, I've read enough youtube comments to know when someone is trying to tell me something about how they view the world.It's basic pattern recognition, and being misunderstood is a consequence of being a snarky sarcastic edgelord. Don't like it? Change your attitude.I consider my self to be slightly left of center most times in politics, and for me it would have been a hard decision on weather or not to say something.I honestly can't say for sure how I would have handled it, I think that I most likely would have considered it free speech but maybe given a general caution just encase and definitely not lectured him extensively on it , and unlike Jade, I'm not far left either. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537011/#p537011 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I honestly think I would have assumed that NevEd was being homophobic as well, though not seriously so.Straight, used in a context that I've literally never seen (straight up) used in before, followed by a jab at the phrase woke, and a few posts later talking about lunatic leftists? Yeah, I've read enough youtube comments to know when someone is trying to tell me something about how they view the world.It's basic pattern recognition, and being misunderstood is a consequence of being a snarky sarcastic edgelord. Don't like it? Change your attitude.I consider my self to be slightly left of center most times in politics, and for me it would have been a hard decision on weather or not to say something.I honestly can't say for sure how I would have handled it, I think that I most likely would have considered it free speech but maybe given a caution just encase and definitely not lectured him extensively on it , and unlike Jade, I'm not far left either. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537011/#p537011 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I kind of get all sides of this topic. I can understand why saying certain things can be taken to be offensive. However, someone made an argument earlier about cultural differences and how assumptions shouldn't be made regarding language and their meanings. I'd argue it would be offensive to stifle, so to speak, the written vernacular used by certain groups and cultures based on inability to evaluate context. In other words, I feel there is much more to written text than just literal interpretations as we've seen time and time again. We could do best to inform ourselves of different cultures and their vernacular, which is fancy way of saying stuff that certain groups say based on regions or countries.For the record, my significant other enjoys hearing about our little drama-filled community. So be my guest with these posts. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537010/#p537010 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Also even if that one percent figure is entirely correct, that’s likely under the best of conditions. Some are not as lucky as us Americans. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537009/#p537009 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I think the best approach to these topics is to kindly ask him to delete the topic and step away for a bit. The only problem with that is it would look like supression to him. So we would have to convey our message properly that this is not the case before anything else. Edit 83 I am going to look that up right now, sounds interesting. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537004/#p537004 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I agree with the sentiments of the original post of this topic, but I do think sometimes it's best to step away for a while, maybe get lost in a random audiogame and cool off. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537005/#p537005 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @56O come on. You and everyone else on here can't have it both ways. The media wasn't proven to anything.There was a model, it claimed 6 deaths for the U.S., everyone reported on it, everyone on audiogames.net said that that was exaggerated and how dare the mainstream media be so unrealistic, it can't possibly be that bad. I believe including yourself but I'm not going to dig through literally a thousand posts to find it. But now here we are at around twice that number in the U.S. and counting, and the media is still exaggerating. Really? When does the media stop exaggerating? How many people have to die before it gets through to you and everyone else spouting bullshit conspiracy theories?You have the choice to be mature, or to act like a winy teenager. The world sucks. I literally woke up this morning and had to look up safety information on tear gas because I'm in Seattle literally on the same block as the protests and it's getting into some apartments and I had to find out if it could get into mine, plus I've also been on lockdown living alone since near the beginning of march with basically no human contact beyond grocery delivery and work. I don't enjoy these things. Very little is good about 2020, and the way it's shaping up very little will be good about 2021 either. But that doesn't mean I go on the internet and prolong drama as an outlet for it, and if I did, I'd sure as hell not expect people to give me some sort of covid lockdown pass. Everyone else is experiencing it with you, and everyone else isn't deciding to stir shit up for the hell of it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537002/#p537002 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-06-03
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? And Zarvox, its calledCrab ena barrel syndrome URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537003/#p537003 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I think the best approach to these topics is to kindly ask him to delete the topic and step away for a bit. The only problem with that is it would look like supression to him. So we would have to convey our message properly that this is not the case before anything else URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537004/#p537004 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? Hmm, I know someone like that,A girl's children father occasionally hits her, Then she comes crying by my mimEee! Snuff! Snuff! Iieieieieie! Her mother offered her half an acre of land, plus some ply to build, she dont wanna do that. Okay, go to those homes for women. No. Well, she goes back home and the next day she starts cussing him in the street. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/537001/#p537001 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? you can get through to people, but it is very difficult when a lot of people are responding at once. Then you start focusing on reading each post instead of absorbing each post. For some people groups help them, for others one on one helps more. This guy is better with one on one. So telling him to step away for a bit and cool down, and possibly talking one on one afterwords will help. I may contact him on skype, but first I want to see if he can restore himself on his own. I hope so, we will see URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/536999/#p536999 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? @78, try that when said mentally unstable person is actively blaming you for their problems rather than trying to work with you even when you try to help them, and who still holds the belief that their own life is of more importance than that of millions of others. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/536998/#p536998 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? it is interesting how many people on this forum, including me, have severe mental instabilities, but instead of helping one another and trying to be understanding we hate on each other for it. I wish being selfish was much harder than it is. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/536996/#p536996 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now?
Re: Using Slang is Homophobic now? I have not been able to leave the house in two months. I take care of a 91-year-old woman. I've had very little contact with other people. guess what. I put my big boy pants on and deal with it. It's called being an adult. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/536994/#p536994 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
