[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
You won't believe this one either, but if you disturb any burned in cable it will go through a very quick version of burn in. The effect is small but repeatable in tests I have done - removing the cable, coiling it up, uncoiling it and plugging it back in. I don't profess to understand it, but

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
Compared with what Tom - I hear you like it, but do you mind if I ask what your reference is? I want to consider the Transporter, but if its at the level of say a SB3/Benchmark I would pass. -- Jenks Jenks's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread WSLam
Jenks;151828 Wrote: WSlam - easy to agree with you on that one. Being a scientist I bristle unnecessarily at any self-professed scientist stating their knowledge as uncontrovertible facts - idiotic given the very nature of science. I should stop doing that. I do all my system selection by

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
Sorry WSlam, our posts crossed - I was of course referring to your earlier post. Thanks for the clarification - exactly what I wanted to know. Seems like I will probably be placing that order when I get paid for my Genelecs. -- Jenks

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread WSLam
Jenks;151830 Wrote: Sorry WSlam, our posts crossed - I was of course referring to your earlier post. Thanks for the clarification - exactly what I wanted to know. Seems like I will probably be placing that order when I get paid for my Genelecs. Congrat! I dont think you will regret! =)

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
Yes there simply are no facts. All we have is models of the world that we choose to use, to uncomplicate things, as you say - but as soon as we stop challenging our models we stop learning anything new. People don't like that kind of ambiguity, but if you embrace it you are closer to the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread WSLam
Jenks;151833 Wrote: Yes there simply are no facts. All we have is models of the world that we choose to use, to uncomplicate things, as you say - but as soon as we stop challenging our models we stop learning anything new. People don't like that kind of ambiguity, but if you embrace it you

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Newbie seeking the best sound quality

2006-11-02 Thread peejay
Generally. moving audio reproduction circuits away from any possible interference is a first move to improving sound quality. The humble act of moving power cables away from source or speaker cables in a stereo setup, for example, can in some cases make an audible difference. In the case of a PC,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Newbie seeking the best sound quality

2006-11-02 Thread probedb
As far as I'm aware AC'97 requires that all signals are mixed to 16-bit 48KHz? In windows it's possible to bypass kmixer which does this nasty stuff but it maybe that your onboard sound does this as well...i.e. all Creative cards do this in hardware. Unless you're doing things like bypassing

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Newbie seeking the best sound quality

2006-11-02 Thread peejay
probedb;151846 Wrote: As far as I'm aware AC'97 requires that all signals are mixed to 16-bit 48KHz? In windows it's possible to bypass kmixer which does this nasty stuff but it maybe that your onboard sound does this as well...i.e. all Creative cards do this in hardware. Unless you're

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread WSLam
Jenks;151851 Wrote: I understand the point. What any individual is most comfortable with - facts/theory/ambiguity/chaos will depend on what brain type they are I guess. But there are times when it seems to me it is useful to treat something as a fact and sometimes when it is not. For

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
I understand the point. What any individual is most comfortable with - facts/theory/ambiguity/chaos will depend on what brain type they are I guess. But there are times when it seems to me it is useful to treat something as a fact and sometimes when it is not. For example we might treat the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-02 Thread opaqueice
Jenks, it sounds like you spend quite a lot of time doing experiments with cables. You may not care about this, but no one (outside the audiophile world at least) will take your results seriously unless they are properly controlled - meaning blind and randomized. So it might be worth trying.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?

2006-11-02 Thread PhilNYC
highdudgeon;151740 Wrote: Why not? I've seen Avant Gardes driven by a beefy McIntosh. They didn't melt down. It is a waste of power, yes, but it is certainly a more linear amp than the vogueish SETs out there. I've heard the Avante Garde Duo 2.2's on numerous occassions, and the only time

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?

2006-11-02 Thread P Floding
jhm731;151773 Wrote: Since I removed all the boards for upgrades, I've cleaned and treated all internal connections. After seeing what happens to SST when it dries out, I stopped using it. Stabilant 22 is a better option, but it's still not as effective as Rubycon ZLGs Oscons, SC shielded

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?

2006-11-02 Thread tomjtx
Jenks;151820 Wrote: The Japanese have Kiwis? We seem to have confused the world by calling the kiwifruit kiwis when exporting. The Kiwi is of course a flightless bird, that has remarkable similarities to the NZ male human - eats, roots and leaves... eats, roots and leaves? I thought that

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread tomjtx
Jenks;151825 Wrote: Compared with what Tom - I hear you like it, but do you mind if I ask what your reference is? I want to consider the Transporter, but if its at the level of say a SB3/Benchmark I would pass. SB3+Bolder Elpac LavryDAC10 SB3+BolderelpacSFD2MK2 (still love those tubes

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Newbie seeking the best sound quality

2006-11-02 Thread tomjtx
DirectViewer;151814 Wrote: Would the SB3, or the Transporter, be a sonic improvement over my current setup? I play WAV files directly from my PC to a digital input on a Theta Casablanca 3 with Extreme DACs. Any advice will be gratefully received. Thanks! Why not buy a TP direct and get a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread opaqueice
WSLam;151834 Wrote: If you just dream of models after models, then I guess you will be glad to get into the String theory camp. On the contrary. String theory is unique and has no known alternative, despite around 90 years of effort on the part of many rather competent people. Of course

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Craig
IMHO the TP is significantly more enjoyable musically, it' gets harder everyday to stop listening, I think Sean has really hit on something. I doubt you would be unhappy with a TP purchase. Most people here bought a TP unheard. How many have you heard of being returned under the 30 day

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?

2006-11-02 Thread adamslim
opaqueice;151926 Wrote: eats, shoots, and leaves - that was a panda, no? Sigh... :) -- adamslim SB3 and Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-02 Thread CardinalFang
Jenks;151824 Wrote: You won't believe this one either, but if you disturb any burned in cable it will go through a very quick version of burn in. The effect is small but repeatable in tests I have done - removing the cable, coiling it up, uncoiling it and plugging it back in. You are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 24/96 on Transporter: should it work?

2006-11-02 Thread Mitch Harding
Please be sure to file bugs on the ones that don't work!On 11/1/06, DCtoDaylight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well 24/96 support was one thing I wanted, but hadn't actually tried out until tonight.I ripped a couple of 24/96 music DVD's, and gave them atry.My first experiment was just to play raw .wav

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bose Vs Burr Brown

2006-11-02 Thread nicketynick
azinck3;151684 Wrote: Don't know about your Bose specifically, but I suspect it's like most mid-to-low-level consumer audio equipment in that it converts all analog inputs into digital, then back to analog again before going to the amps. That adds 2 extra conversions in the pipeline. This

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thanks

2006-11-02 Thread Coffee
I just want to thank the folks in this forum who have helped me be finally at peace with what I like or believe. Ever since the invention of the CD-ROM I have been bothered by the claims of the effects of CD 'errors.' The appearance of SqueezeBox should put (but didn't) an end to such claims.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bose Vs Burr Brown

2006-11-02 Thread Mark Lanctot
nicketynick;151976 Wrote: Now I'm curious, but haven't had any luck with google yet - anybody have any suggestions where I can find out what goes on inside my Denon DRA F101? If it has a Dolby Pro-Logic II mode it must have an ADC since PLII is a digital process. The DSP modes are all

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bose Vs Burr Brown

2006-11-02 Thread nicketynick
Hi Mark, Unless I've haven't paid attention correctly, the Denon DRA F101 is strictly stereo audio, none of the fancy stuff you get on an A/V receiver. Additionally, it does have a direct/bypass mode, which is what I use, which bypasses the tone controls, etc., so I would suspect then that it

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bose Vs Burr Brown

2006-11-02 Thread Mark Lanctot
nicketynick;152005 Wrote: Unless I've haven't paid attention correctly, the Denon DRA F101 is strictly stereo audio, none of the fancy stuff you get on an A/V receiver. Ah. I didn't look into what the model was because they use a different model number in each market, plus there are certain

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Thanks

2006-11-02 Thread P Floding
Coffee;151980 Wrote: I just want to thank the folks in this forum who have helped me be finally at peace with what I like or believe. Ever since the invention of the CD-ROM I have been bothered by the claims of the effects of CD 'errors.' The appearance of SqueezeBox should put (but didn't)

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 24/96 on Transporter: should it work?

2006-11-02 Thread emeraldcityeg
I'm running the latest nightly 6.5 build on FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE with a Transporter. Played back some standard 24/96 2-ch FLAC files with no trouble at all. Well, actually, I ran into one issue: it was pushing the limits of my Wireless G connection and would stutter occasionally. Gotta deal

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Newbie seeking the best sound quality

2006-11-02 Thread probedb
peejay;151849 Wrote: I Agree, it is all subjective - in the ears of the beholder, so to speak. Computer and audio delivery technologies are inevitably merging, but discreet audio devices such as the squeezebox, still have the edge, IMHO. I agree with you there. Takes some very high quality

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bose Vs Burr Brown

2006-11-02 Thread Craig
funkstar;151710 Wrote: From what i've read about Bose systems, i think there is a lot of tweaking of the audio to make it sound 'good' in the right environment throught their basic paper speaker cones. here is a good right up: http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html Quote Frequency Response

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-02 Thread jan van mourik
This has been an interesting thread I must say! The more I was reading the for and against arguments, the more I was thinking this was a thread about religion. I'm almost curious how it translates to what the people believe :-) I'd say: - atheists don't believe in burn-in - no prove!- agnostics

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 24/96 on Transporter: should it work?

2006-11-02 Thread Mark Lanctot
I downmixed those 6-channel test files I have to 2-channel and the WAVs play back fine on the Transporter. FLACs with no ReplayGain data play back fine as well. However when I tried to add RG, the FLAC encoder wouldn't allow me - it doesn't support RG with 96 kHz material. I added RG with

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 24/96 on Transporter: should it work?

2006-11-02 Thread Mark Lanctot
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4463 It's marginal - not many Transporter users will be using ReplayGain, even fewer are playing back 24/96 material, and since the FLAC encoder doesn't support adding ReplayGain anyway, the whole thing may just be too obscure to waste effort on. --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-02 Thread tomjtx
jan van mourik;152114 Wrote: This has been an interesting thread I must say! The more I was reading the for and against arguments, the more I was thinking this was a thread about religion. I'm almost curious how it translates to what the people believe :-) I'd say: - atheists don't

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Newbie seeking the best sound quality

2006-11-02 Thread DirectViewer
tomsi42;151817 Wrote: If you are using windows, it is a big possibility that you aren't getting the best sound possible. Windows does some processing to the files before they go the the DAC. In your case, I would recommend the SB3, and that you convert your music files to FLAC or Apple

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Newbie seeking the best sound quality

2006-11-02 Thread DirectViewer
probedb;151846 Wrote: As far as I'm aware AC'97 requires that all signals are mixed to 16-bit 48KHz? In windows it's possible to bypass kmixer which does this nasty stuff but it maybe that your onboard sound does this as well...i.e. all Creative cards do this in hardware. Unless you're

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Newbie seeking the best sound quality

2006-11-02 Thread DirectViewer
tomjtx;151923 Wrote: Why not buy a TP direct and get a free SB3? That way you can compare both. If you don't think the TP is better, sell it for 1,700 and break even. There are plenty of people who have SB's that would love to get a TP for 1,700. Well, it seems clear from the postings that

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bose Vs Burr Brown

2006-11-02 Thread radish
Craig;152093 Wrote: Quote Frequency Response 280 Hz to 13.3k Hz at ±10.5 dB :-) Craig No highs, no lows, must be Bose :) -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in

2006-11-02 Thread Jetlag
tomjtx;152120 Wrote: Maybe the answer lies in something I saw written on a wall in a bathroom: to be is to do , Descarte to do is to be, Neitche do be do be do Sinatra Doh! Homer Simpson -- Jetlag

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] NorthStar 192 or Meridian 563 or Musical Fidelity A324?

2006-11-02 Thread pingpong
Hi, Looking for used DAC To partner with the SB3 to improve the sound. Over at my place, I could get the NorthStar 192 or Meridian 563 or Musical Fidelity A324 at about the same price. May I know which is most compatible with the SB3. Looking for warm, lush and laid back kind of sound. Bright