Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea to increase Headroom with lossless volume change

2013-05-03 Thread Julf
Mnyb wrote: Would a more natural signal that just touches 0dB for one sample be a problem to? Yes. Is this really limited to asrc ? could not any digital filter used have this problem . It is a problem in any situation where you have to interpolate between two samples, so most DSP

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea to increase Headroom with lossless volume change

2013-05-03 Thread darrenyeats
Chaps, Think about it, even the DAC2 does not accommodate arbitrarily large peaks! The HA thread indicates some are up to 11db and a BM guy pops up saying you can get more headroom by not maxing the volume. That right there should tell us that we shouldn't assume a DAC just deals with it. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Confused by the digital formats

2013-05-03 Thread probedb
heisenberg wrote: An interesting thing happened to me yesterday. I've purchased Les Nubians Princesses Nubiennes CD and ripped it to AIFF and then sat down to listen in amazement. Why in amazement? Because I've previously had that CD ripped in 320 kbps mp3 format and was listening to it for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea to increase Headroom with lossless volume change

2013-05-03 Thread Archimago
darrenyeats wrote: Chaps, Think about it, even the DAC2 does not accommodate -arbitrarily large- peaks. The HA thread indicates some are up to 11db and a BM guy pops up saying you can get more than 3.5db headroom by not maxing the volume. That right there tells us not to assume anything.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Idea to increase Headroom with lossless volume change

2013-05-03 Thread Julf
Julf wrote: Wish I had time to draw the picture Found a very good discussion on the topic: 'Gearsluz - Tips and techniques: Intersample peaks' (http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showwiki.php?title=Tips-and-Techniques:Intersample-peaks) A relevant quote: Ceilings of .3 or .1 etc dBFS are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Confused by the digital formats

2013-05-03 Thread heisenberg
probedb wrote: So you compared a lossy rip of a CD which maybe from a different release/master with a new lossless CD rip and you expected them to sound the same? Was this a proper ABX test? I'm guessing not. The comparison is completely invalid as a test of lossy vs lossless. The only

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-05-03 Thread Archimago
My opinion piece on digital cables (but much applies to analogue as well). This one could make some folks unhappy! TGIF! Enjoy the weekend, everyone! http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/05/musings-audiophile-digital-cables.html

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-03 Thread netchord
Archimago wrote: I would still argue (ultra-kamikaze-like) that if one could tell a difference between FLAC vs. WAV vs. AIFF vs. APE vs. WV vs. ALAC, then there's *something wrong with their hardware*! To actually hear a difference (not just bias of some sort) should not be like some badge

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-03 Thread Wombat
netchord wrote: well, SC is converting ALAC to FLAC using faad/sox, so i guess the difference I'm hearing is actually between FLAC and AIFF, both of which are converted natively by the TP. and would it surprise you to learn i hear a difference between wired and wireless to the TP, and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-05-03 Thread darrell
Archimago wrote: My opinion piece on digital cables (but much applies to analogue as well). This one could make some folks unhappy! TGIF! Enjoy the weekend, everyone! http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/05/musings-audiophile-digital-cables.html Good piece! Your experiment in using one

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-05-03 Thread Archimago
darrell wrote: Good piece! Your experiment in using one half of an analogue interconnect as a coaxial digital cable is particularly interesting to me, as I use one half of a 3 or 4 metre analogue interconnect to connect my Touch to my DAC, because it's the only cable I own which is long

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-05-03 Thread darrell
Archimago wrote: Dunno about that right-left issue, but I think if you investigate the directional flow issue, you would see that there is only *one* correct direction. Connecting backwards and you're sure to be hearing curtains between you and the music. Just ask the guys running that cable

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-03 Thread Archimago
netchord wrote: well, SC is converting ALAC to FLAC using faad/sox, so i guess the difference I'm hearing is actually between FLAC and AIFF, both of which are converted natively by the TP. and would it surprise you to learn i hear a difference between wired and wireless to the TP, and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-05-03 Thread Archimago
darrell wrote: Hmmm... I think I understand that on the surface of it, the left-right issue might be caused by the lack of an electrical connection between the two components, but on the other hand, wouldn't special audiophile quantum tunnelling effects ensure that the music still got

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Magico S1

2013-05-03 Thread banned for life
The first full digitally produced album Never mind there was no digital playback then I have to think despite the genius of Steven Wilson that this is the first truly recoverable album. life, banned, look it up banned

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-05-03 Thread darrell
Archimago wrote: ...It's fun just putting stuff out there in a more empirical fashion... At the risk of repeating myself, it's great that you feel this way. Our society (and the internet which is simply a reflection of society) is far too polluted by conspiracy theorists and mystics (and dare

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-03 Thread darrell
netchord wrote: well, SC is converting ALAC to FLAC using faad/sox, so i guess the difference I'm hearing is actually between FLAC and AIFF, both of which are converted natively by the TP. and would it surprise you to learn i hear a difference between wired and wireless to the TP, and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-03 Thread garym
netchord wrote: and would it surprise you to learn i hear a difference between wired and wireless to the TP, and prefer the former? what ever bias might be involved, i assure you it's an inconvenient one- running ethernet to my system was a pain in the ass. Very surprised. More evidence

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiogon's Wake Up Your Ears Sampler

2013-05-03 Thread mlsstl
Figured for $5 I'd try the 24/96 version. Haven't had time to listen on my main system, but I converted a copy to CD and listened in the car today. The recording was certainly full-range and dynamic, but have to say I used the next-track button on the CD player much more heavily than normal.