From 200 feet you could get half a loop in
JR
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From: Graham Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 180 degree turns
There has been a lot of theoretical discussion on this thread, but two
apparently conflicting statements seem to have gone undetected.
1. If there is a cross wind, remember to turn into the wind, because the wind
will then push you back to aid in lining up with the strip.
2. As soon as
or 6.
Go to you tube and get 6 loops of the deck.
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From: JR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 180 degree turns
1. Applies AFTER the launch failure.
2. Is the technique to apply BEFORE the failure.
I thought it was obvious and there's no conflict.
Mike
At 08:42 PM 18/09/2008, you wrote:
There has been a lot of theoretical discussion on this thread, but
two apparently conflicting statements seem to
At 12:16 PM 18/09/2008, you wrote:
The difference between theory and practise is often much greater
than the theory would suggest. IMHO this one such situation.
Amazing!
They do the maths, test on simulators and then back it up with actual
flight tests and you still have doubts.
As for
Does anyone here have a good flight sim or Condor ? How about doing
some turnbacks and getting back to us with the results.
I don't have a flight sim on my PC anymore. All seems tame after
taking out 5 Iranian Mirage 2000's with the gun on the MiG 29 (IR
missiles were too easy) before backing
Texler, Michael wrote:
To throw the cat amongst the pigeons.
Thanks Michael, This pigeon admits to being quite alarmed by some
aspects of these papers =-O .
Here are some links with attached research, regarding the best way to do a 180
(if required).
Any comments or disagreements?
OK,
Agree Terry.
Mike Valentine would have said 'This type of maneuver should always be
watched from a safe distance'
Terry Neumann wrote:
Texler, Michael wrote:
To throw the cat amongst the pigeons.
Thanks Michael, This pigeon admits to being quite alarmed by some
aspects of these
Thanks Terry,
Unfortunately however, math or not, the history is that a lot of people who
have attempted this option died in so doing.
To make such a statement, you need to know the of people who have died doing
this manoevure divided by number of times the manoevure is performed.
I am sure
To throw the cat amongst the pigeons.
Here are some links with attached research, regarding the best way to do a 180
(if required).
Any comments or disagreements?
OK, if people want to poo-poo this, please provide a rational and reasoned
explanation why (i.e. use a scientific and objective
I now know why I prefer to fly gliders more than tugs/power. :-)
A very interesting article: note he says sailplane pilots practise at
200 feet: not me!
PeterS
/What about safety? Can the average pilot successfully complete this
maneuver. The simulator study indicates that training makes this
Don't see much to argue about. They did the math. Although there's
one little thing I'd like to check.
They don't think the optimum is 60 degrees though.
Mike
At 11:38 AM 17/09/2008, you wrote:
To throw the cat amongst the pigeons.
Here are some links with attached research, regarding the
They don't think the optimum is 60 degrees though.
Yep, I found that interesting too.
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