Any time, Erica
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Erica Botelho
audiosource...@qwestoffice.net wrote:
Thank you Margaret, I appreciate the help and education!
Erica
*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente
*Sent:* Friday, May 02,
Erica,
The marriage was on the 28-Feb-1729; between* Mathias de Carvalho*, son of
*Manoel
de Carvalho*, and his wife *Maria de Benavides*, residents of Mosteiros,
members of NS da Conceicao, and, *Margarida de Vasconcellos*, daughter of
*Manoel
Soares Cabral*, and his wife *Anna Raposa*,
Let me add this reply to your question. This is a Marriage Record. It is a
legal document, that is, it deals with the legal names of the participants,
and the event that they are participating in; you ask if Margarida could
have been known as Gertrude. She could have been known by any name she
Hi Cheri,
It was great meeting you and so many others at the Azores Genealogy
Conference. We have just received Barry's Mom's Family Finder results and
matches. There is one 2nd to 4th cousin match, eight 3rd to 5th cousin
matches and 6 more pages of more distant cousin matches. We are still
Are baptismal records considered legal documents also? I am asking because I
have seen where people had dropped or added names over the years. What I mean
is, the name that was used on their marriage record might not be the exact same
name that is on the baptism of their last child.
Thank
hi everyone
i can't seem to find this one
http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/minis-tree/v_md1847d1.jpg
i checked all the manuels in 1867 here
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-O-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-O-1860-1869_item1/index.html
am i looking in
Hi Emil,
Antonio was the ancestor that Manuel martins descends from..my ancestor was
the elder brother Manuel.
I notice that you are a Family Finder match to both myself and my Uncle John
Baptiste but not in common with Manuel Martins so I guess it's not on this part
of my Candelaria
Actually, things were not that formal in the Azores at that time. There was the
baptismal name, ehich one would think would be one's legal name, but by the
time these women married, many had names that were very different from the
baptismal name. And, if they had 6 children there might be 6
That's the wrong link you need to look through the obits in SaoJose -
Hospital
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-O-1867-1870/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-O-1867-1870_item1/index.html
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
Thank you John. I wanted so badly for this to be the right couple, I was trying
to force it. May I ask how you found the parents Gertrudes?
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:48 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW:
Hi John,I have Quaresma from Pico in the 1600s.How far back does Quaresma go in Bretanha?Why does your email now say via Azores Genealogy instead of your email address?Is it something you did on purpose?I wonder if it's just one of those religious names that anyone can assume, like Nascimento.Doug
Hi Manoel
Thanks for answering all my questions.
I'm happy to send you the link for MARIA DA COSTA's obit. Funny how I kept
pressing save the page on my Ipad and I kept getting her husband's page with
HIS obituary. I thought there was something g WRONG with the Ipad until about
the fourth
Hi Doug,
I do not know what the story is with the e-mail. Maybe if I am answering
instead of originating an e-mail, it uses this format.
The earliest Quaresma I have is Pedro, married in Bretanha on 1 May 1609. No
parents are mentioned and I have no descendants.
I have a Manuel Ferreira
I am reminded just how important it is to identify the marriage witnesses.Today I noticed my great-grandfather's signature from a marriage in 1888 and wondered why he might have been chosen to witness it. It turns out that his wife is a relative - a second cousin.The marriage took place in
Sabina Simas is one of my 10th great-grandmother's on my mother's paternal
side.
Maria Natalia
On Friday, May 2, 2014 1:52:38 PM UTC-5, Herb wrote:
Hi Doug
I went back into my files and have many Simas ancestors on both my mother
and fathers side going back to the 1500's, from opposite
Ola prima Maria Natalia,Then that explains how we show a DNA match, right? :-)No, that would be too remote, I think, unless you have several links and lots of Simas DNA.I have a double-dose from my great-grandparents who were 1st cousins. So I suppose that is possible, but from what Family Finder
You should be looking at the obituaries in Ponta Garça not in S. José, PD
On Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:21:29 AM UTC-4, carmen furtado wrote:
hi everyone
i can't seem to find this one
http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/minis-tree/v_md1847d1.jpg
i checked all the manuels in 1867
Baptismal records *are* legal documents in that they establish a date of
birth by a duly appointed authority and are signed by witnesses, whereupon
they are certified in the same manner as a birth certificate; as for their
order of standing, they are second only to a notarized birth
You've got the wrong link. The link you need is the one that covers the
period 1867-1870 (lists the deaths of individuals that were in the
Hospital da Santa Casa da Miserecordia in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada. The
record is #64 at the bottom of the page. The correct link is below:
Do you have families that settled in *Pleasanton, Livermore, San Ramon,
Sunol* area ?
I'm working on a project for the local museum on the Portuguese setllement
here.
Azorean Portuguese was a large percentage of the population here before
1900.
The first wave around 1870 was mostly from
http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena;lang=pt;p=manuel;n=neves
The web-site above is of our shared 6th great-grandparents. Their son Joao
Neves born 14 apr 1727 is my 5th great grandfather. His sister Joana Sao Jose
born 16 apr 1738 is your 5th great grandmother. We are
I have never thought of our baptismal certificates as legal documents before. I
love the education that I get from the people on this list!
I will be tuning in for your next tutorial J
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dano
Sent: Saturday, May 03,
Hi Maria,
You are welcome.
The word after sixty is outo (oito - current spelling).
The one who made a will on 1633 was his grandfather Sebastião Jácome de
Resendes. They had the same name.
I think that the notarial records are in the Biblioteca Pública e Arquivo
Regional de Ponta Delgada.
Hi Maria,
You are welcome.
The word after sixty is outo (oito - current spelling).
The one who made a will on 1633 was his grandfather Sebastião Jácome de
Resendes. They had the same name.
I think that the notarial records are in the Biblioteca Pública e Arquivo
Regional de Ponta Delgada.
Back in March when I finally found a marriage certificate of my grandfather
(online) I noticed that he was a witness to another person who married a
day after him. The other witness was my grandmother's sister-in-law. My
grandmother didn't marry my grandfather till after this marriage, so I
That's unusual for a woman to be a witness.Sometimes these things are just discovered by accident.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: importance of witnesses
From:
Primo Doug,
I descend from Sabina's daughter Maria de Pimentel Resendes, married to Pedro
da Costa Gregorio in Nordeste. Domingos de Simas is one of my 11th
great-grandfathers.
Maria Natalia
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Hi Doug,
I descend from both of Domingos and Maria Alvares daughters (Sabina and
Leonor de Simas) for both my Paternal/Maternal lines.
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 11:33 PM, mnk kamis...@comcast.net wrote:
Primo Doug,
I descend from Sabina's daughter Maria de Pimentel Resendes, married to
Pedro
I also descend from Sabina de Simas and Francisco Pimentel de Resendes
through their son Sebastião de Pimentel m. to Maria de Oliveira on 16 jul
1615 in Nordeste.
Manoel Cesar Furtado
Em domingo, 4 de maio de 2014 00h53min42s UTC-3, Mara escreveu:
Hi Doug,
I descend from both of Domingos
My kids also decend from Sabina's daughter Maria de Pimentel Resendes,
married to Pedro da Costa Gregorio in Nordeste
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 9:47 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:
I also descend from Sabina de Simas and Francisco Pimentel de Resendes
through their son Sebastião de Pimentel
So the question then is anyone NOT a Simas descendant? :-)Thanks for all the messages, primos.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Simas DNA
From: Pam Santos
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