Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Heritage DNA Tools are free until Dec. 18th!

[Paul]

You are getting more than I am. After clicking on generate I get the 
message they will send an e-mail when the process has finished. Yet I have 
not received one.

Paul G.

On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Hmm, I just realized that I was using Chrome when I generated the Auto 
> Cluster report. Yet it comes as Firefox HTML.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:58 AM Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> When I have My Heritage generate an Auto Cluster, I get an attachment. I 
>> download that to my computer. I prefer to rename it, so this one is for an 
>> American cousin, Nancy. I double click the folder:
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Then I'm going to double click the folder again:
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> There's an Excel file and an HTML document. I happen to be on Firefox. I 
>> don't know if that is why the "Type" says Firefox or not. So I double click 
>> the Firefox (2nd one) and it generates the clusters.
>>
>> I haven't tried this with Chrome. I have both Chrome and Firefox on my 
>> computer and I have both open at once because some things are rather picky 
>> on the Internet and they don't play nicely with one browser, so I try the 
>> other.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 8:09 AM Paul > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve tried the auto cluster twice. I have yet to see the results. Maybe 
>>> I’ll download my data again and give it another try.
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] My Heritage DNA Tools are free until Dec. 18th!

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I’ve tried the auto cluster twice. I have yet to see the results. Maybe I’ll 
download my data again and give it another try.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA

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My bad. I (obviously) was thinking the other way.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA

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Hello all:

I have a DNA question I hope someone with more knowledge can answer. Myself and 
a few other family members tested with 23andMe. My oldest sister (who is 
actually my half sister (different fathers)) and I recently discovered we have 
a half brother. You guessed it, we all have different fathers. While looking at 
mine and Dean’s (half brothers given name) shared segments, how can we have 
completely identical match on the X chromosome when we have different fathers? 
My paternal haplogroup is R-P311 while Dean’s is R-CTS6. All three of us share 
the same maternal haplogroup U5b...

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Childs name, pai Miguel de Simas e mai Teresa Carreira of Faial de Terra, Sao Miguel

[Paul]

Greetings:

I am having a hard time trying to determine the child's name in the record 
listed below (starts on the lower left and finishes at the top of the next 
page). Is it Manuel or Miguel?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P91.html

The child was born 16 Sep 1736 in Faial de Terra, Povoacao, Sao Miguel
Father: Miguel de Simas
Mother: Teresa (Theresa) Carreira [my first cousin, 8X removed]

Thanks,

Paul G.


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[AZORES-Genealogy] 1923 S.S. Mongolia passenger manifest

[Paul]

Cross-posted with Island routes group

Hello All:

I am dealing with a (hopefully) minor brick wall. My grandmother's family 
the Silva's immigrated to Hawaii in 1906 from Sao Miguel. The family 
consisted of:

Manuel Bernardo Silva b: 1870 Mae de Deus
Maria (nee Medeiros) Silva b: 1873 Mae de Deus
5 children
Maria b: 1892
Ermelinda :b: 1895
Maria Anjos b: 1898
Manuel b: 1903
Francisco b: 1904

While in Hawaii they had 3 more children
Joseph B. b: 1907 Lihue
Laura b: 1910 Lihue
Gloria b: 1912 (grandmother)

The family moved to California in 1913 arriving in San Francisco 22 Apr. 
This is where my "problem" begins. I have found the Alien passenger 
manifest for the S.S. Mongolia (have copies) that lists Manuel, Maria, 
Maria A, Manuel, and Francisco. However, I have not found the manifest for 
US Citizens that should list Joseph, Laura, and Gloria. Anyone have 
suggestions where I can find this passenger manifest?


Thanks,
Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal

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Feliz Natal everyone.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] U.S. Citizen passenger list

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I am in need of assistance in trying to find the passenger list for U.S. 
Citizens on the S.S. Mongolia. I have the Alien listing which has my great 
grandparents Manuel & Maria Silva, along with three of their children. They 
had three more children while in Hawaii Joseph (aka Jose/Joe/Jack) b: 1907, 
Laura b: 1910, Gloria (my grandmother) b: 1912. The Mongolia departed 
Honolulu on 15 Apr 1913 and arrived in San Francisco on 22 Apr 1913. I am 
hoping that someone has a link to this listing or can send a copy. 

Thanks,
Paul G.

cross posted with IslandRoutes

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[AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA matches

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Hello All:

At the top of the matches screen on the FTDNA site there are four tabs ALL, 
Paternal, Maternal, Both. On the paternal tab, I am showing 21 matches with 
21 figures with blue background next to said matches. I do have a confirmed 
maternal match (3rd cousin, 1 time removed), but the maternal tab shows 0 
and no figure with a pink background next to this match. How/why is this 
person not showing as a maternal match?

Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ponte, Borges Families Azores

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Yes they did live in New Beford

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ponte, Borges Families Azores

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Wow thats awesome!!! Thank you!!
 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ponte, Borges Families Azores

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My 2nd great grandparents were 

Francisco Ponte (b.1881)
Francisca Borges (b.1885 d. 1947)

I dont kno much about this side of my family. I know they were from the Azores 
possibly Terceira

They had a daughter Mary Ponte ( my great grandmother)

If anyone has any addition informatikn i would appriciate it!!

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Botelho & Carreiro Family From Ginetes Sao Miguel

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Did u see my family tree picture Richard?? I dont have many dates and names 
other than that

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Botelho & Carreiro Family From Ginetes Sao Miguel

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Hi Altino... He is my 3rd Great Grandfather as well!.. i have my great 
grandmothers baptismal papers (Alexandrina Botelho Mello).. it lists her 
parents as well as her grandparents.. do u have email address, it wont let me 
send picture.. paul.maxim...@yahoo.com

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco de Andrade - Francisca dos Anjos - Ilha Santa Mara

[Paul]

Hello:

I am trying to find the baptism records for my 7th great grandparents 
Francisco de Andrade and Francisca dos Anjos. Atached is a link to their 
marriage record. According to this record Francisco does not have a father, 
His mothers name is Anna de Mello natural of Santo Espirito. I have 
searched forty years of baptism records from Santo Espirito and have yet to 
find Francisco. Francisca filha Manoel da Fontes, e Joanna de Andrade. I 
have also searched the same amount (40 years) of baptism records for Santa 
Barbara hoping to find Francisca and found nothing.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1738-1789/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1738-1789_item1/P18.html
 
(right)

I will search the other frequesia's of Santa Maria. Hopefully I will find 
them.

Paul G.


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[AZORES-Genealogy] PGSH

[Paul]

We, wife and I, are less than 2.5 weeks from leaving for Hawaii (Oahu). I 
have sent three emails to the PGSH with no reply. Is there another way to 
contact them besides e-mail or phone (don't want to call long distance from 
Virginia)? I would like to set up a date and time to visit. They may be 
busy, that I understand so I might have to call them after we arrive.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Mongolia manifest 1913

[Paul]

Hello Group,

I am in need of some assistance. I've been trying to find the passenger 
manifest for the S. S. Mongolia which sailed from Hawai'i on 15 Apr 1913, 
arriving in San Francisco 22 Apr 1913. The manifest that I am looking for 
is the U.S. Citizen list. This should have my grandmother and two of her 
siblings listed. Does anyone have this manifest or a link to a website that 
I can research?

S. S. Mongolia sailed from Honolulu, Hawaii 15 April 1913 arrived San 
Francisco, CA 22 April 1913

Joseph Silva (b: 1907 Lihue, Kauai)
Laura Silva (b: 1910 Lihue, Kauai)
Gloria Silva (b: 1912 Lihue(?), Hawaii)

I have the Alien listing that has their parents and other siblings listed.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] I give up.

[Paul]

Hi Nelia,

I'll try my best to keep my story, which is similar to yours as small as 
possible. When I started the only information I had besides my grandparents 
names and birthdates, was their parents names. So I entered the info I had, 
tried to to find more. After a year or so I stopped. Then after a 2-3 year 
hiatus I took up the search again with the help of some family I was able to 
find my great grandparents passenger manifest which showed they emigrated to 
Hawaii in 1906. My grandmothers family came from the Azores (obviously), while 
my grandfathers came from Ilha Madeira. Both on the same ship. With the help 
and suggestions of many people in this group I have been able to go back quite 
a few generations.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry.com issue

[Paul]

Heads up people. Something is afoot with Ancestry.com. I was entering a 6th 
great grandmother into my tree and for a brief period it would not display 
her. Now when I try to display any relatives information I get the PAGE IS 
UNAVAILABLE message. It will allow you to log-on and display your tree and 
that's it. I tried on a desktop computer and an iPad, same result.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Anna/Joanna

[Paul]

Hello All:

I am curious as to how often (if any) that relatives would either shorten 
or lengthen their first name. For example, my 4th great grandmothers first 
name is Anna. Would she at times use the name Joanna? While researching 
baptism records for her children I have found a couple of records listing 
the mother as Anna Maria Roza (her full name), as well as others with 
Joanna Maria or Joanna Roza. The fathers name in all the records is the 
same, Jose Gomes Henriques her husband.

Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Paul]

THANK YOU ERICA You have helped knock down the brick wall that has been 
holding me up on researching my paternal grandfather's family. I've 
"literally" been pounding my head against this wall for 5 years now trying 
to find the baptism records for my great grandfather and his siblings. I 
*almost* cried when I viewed them.

Paul G.

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 3:16:29 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:
>
> Familysearch.com has just digitized almost all of their Madeira records. 
>  You can access them through searching their "catalog". Type in the place 
> "Madeira, Portugal" and "search".  Then choose the option of "church 
> records - 50 items".  This will bring you to a list of all of the 
> freguesias of Madeira.  Pick your freguesia and click on it. That will 
> bring up a list of all the records they have.  If the icon to the right is 
> a camera, then you can click on that link and look through them.  If the 
> icon is a film reel, then those records are not uploaded to the internet 
> yet and only available through ordering them directly. 
> If you have any other questions, you can email me directly  audiosourceinc 
> at qwestoffice.net 
> Erica Botelho 
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Maria Lima 
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:49 AM 
> To: AZORES 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research 
>
> A friend asked me for help on his wife's Madeira ancestry. I'd like to 
> help with reading the records for them but I'm not sure the records are 
> online like the Azores.  I'm not even sure yet if there's more than one 
> island - sorry to admit in public - I'm just starting to explore how I can 
> help them. 
>
> Is there an equivalent list for Madeira like this one? 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some Thoughts on Ethnicity Estimates

[Paul]

Overall I like the previous version more than this "updated" one. Another 
result I noticed on my updates is the <2% Northern and Central America. Hmmm, 
the first relatives that I know of to be in that region was my Silva relatives. 
Arriving in 1913 at San Francisco.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some Thoughts on Ethnicity Estimates

[Paul]

Hello everyone:

The following is a reply I received from FTDNA about the Ethnicity 
Estimates:

Family Tree DNA <https://www.facebook.com/FamilyTreeDNA/?rc=p> Hi Paul. The 
myOrigins results are your personal genetic ancestry that reflects the last 
100 to 2,000 years (about four to 80 generations). They may also reflect 
one population that mixed with another in ancient times and became fixed in 
one of your populations.

Autosomal DNA, which is what is tested in the Family Finder, is able to 
give us this information because it's inherited from both parents.

On a larger scale, when comparing the autosomal DNA of hundreds or 
thousands of people from a specific location to the autosomal DNA of 
hundreds or thousands of people from a different specific location, you can 
see genetic variance in populations. The collections of hundreds or 
thousands of people from a specific location are called reference 
populations. Autosomal DNA testing can compare your Autosomal DNA to that 
of each reference population to calculate your ethnic percentages.

Whenever new reference populations are added into the mix that your DNA is 
being compared to, or whenever the the reference populations themselves are 
changed, you might see some changes in your reported ethnic percentages. 
This does not mean that the previously reported percentages were 
incorrect-- they were correct based on the information available at the 
time. The new ones are also correct based on the information that is now 
available at this time.

FTDNA recently updated many of our existing reference populations and added 
several new ones, and because of this, your results may have changed. Some 
of these changes may be minor differences and some may not. We have 
replaced the old reference populations with new ones. The names given for 
the regions these populations represent in most cases remain the same, but 
the academic reference population used to determine the percentage match to 
that region is based on new information available.

Again, this does not mean the previous results were wrong. Both sets of 
results are correct based on the best information available at the time it 
was given. Autosomal DNA testing for ethnic percentages is a young science 
that is less than a decade old. With any scientific procedure, you will see 
technological advancements with age.

You can see a tutorial for how to navigate the new layout of myOrigins here:

https://www.familytreedna.com/.../myorigins/walkthrough/ 
<https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familytreedna.com%2Flearn%2Fautosomal-ancestry%2Fmyorigins%2Fwalkthrough%2F&h=ATMUX3l2EibiBfBSFaWaOSq6lzVsz5gcx8gcHi7CV-O-AzDJ-qzH6Jnp5O7JRyjnpyowMrWUUeApx2MVSbXPg-6ipcdiIIZ6TajHpyJN_bDcFrB_ChAnuAbFC84rydY4kao>

You can read the descriptions of all 24 population clusters here:

https://www.familytreedna.com/.../myorigins-population.../ 
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For more information about this topic, we recommend the following articles:

https://dna-explained.com/.../family-tree-dna-myorigins.../ 
<https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdna-explained.com%2F2017%2F04%2F04%2Ffamily-tree-dna-myorigins-ethnicity-update-no-april-foolin%2F&h=ATMv1UtdgJrDkEnFQ13BS_nIkOZYVSiGOw4jN_UYaUOsqaczclpkW7v22ko3mZhW4mSEyVfxtwvjp0JT-p-fQyfTK52flsdFmY0Xr3e-NzjKjZjHJIC3zCdVidu0N9bsoD8>

https://dna-explained.com/.../concepts-calculating.../ 
<https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdna-explained.com%2F2017%2F01%2F11%2Fconcepts-calculating-ethnicity-percentages%2F&h=ATM784YdpQxMMXbe7bkDBqXJqOTaRlkInD7ory8hygN2vICSDN2dhru7QMKXTyWZBDAYRTXqVrzfsXuXT4HuglfKDjR8WOBgoytV8sTnJrnrwkvqnYAwqPnV1GuOw_WuoN4>
<https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familytreedna.com%2Flearn%2Fautosomal-ancestry%2Fmyorigins%2Fwalkthrough%2F&h=ATNLqmv8UfENFCQw7Qdh3H8gf6yMdKiA_ldRxVCJr29ABaHKgykBqDKXtylpU8ds__BL3F7gxbvcJVRfx19rQx56fVGkAGNh25TV-VlCsoHYx-S5QyPNFS4_q1t2MBuVKjk&enc=AZOD4Qnm_Sl7VhLFDTfuktr-66aoPixx1KrAwuv2BrQsVH6JDQ_9_7r2TKc-Vj37V2V51WhhQXEdFYa3ruyoQvkbIRauEEgbUDkm7UypF5fBMQk8ET95_JCGsCrCv8mV9mryvlp8xdVokwlLliurbvb4Brb-Iatq9Swhg1-QgOQUOQ&s=1>
FTDNA Learning Center – myOrigins Walk-through 
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FAMILYTREEDNA.COM

Hope it helps.

Paul G.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA

[Paul]

I agree with MaryAnn, and I understand they are only estimates. My father and 
his parents are Portuguese, yet my estimates do not show any. My mother who's 
father is English and mother is Swedish. The estimates show less than 2% 
British Isles. Previous my origins did not pickup the Scandinavian (Swedish), 
but the new estimate shows Finish. Hinteresting.

Paul G.

Paul Gomes
Ethnic Makeup

European
  
89%
West and Central Europe

Middle Eastern
  
5%
North Africa

Trace Results
  
Finland
<2%
West Africa
<2%
North and Central America
<2%
British Isles
<2%
West Middle East
<2%

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose de Medeiros of Ilha Sao Miguel

[Paul]

Thanks JR. I did find the following baptism record in 1832 Mae de Deus:

 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1829-1835/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1829-1835_item1/P83.html
 
(left page)

Parent names match, but I do not see the grandparent names. Maybe the 
family did not want them listed or the priest forgot to write them. I will 
be double checking those early 1829 records though.

Paul G.

On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 12:00:48 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>
> I don't have the baptism of Jose, but I think you will find it about one 
> year after Antonio and Bernanrdina married in late 1828. That would make 
> him about 20 years old.
>
>  
>
> *Ancestors of Jose de Medeiros*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Generation No. 1*
>
>  
>
> *1.*  *Jose de Medeiros,* born in Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  He was 
> the son of *2. Antonio de Medeiros* and *3. Bernardina or Bernarda 
> Francisca de Resendes*.  He married *(1) Ana Jacinta* 04 Jan 1849 in 
> Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  She was born in Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  She was the 
> daughter of Francisco de Melo and Quiteria Maria or Maria Quiteria.
>
>  
>
> Marriage Notes for Jose Medeiros and Ana:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854_item1/P111.html
>
>  
>
> *Generation No. 2*
>
>  
>
> *2.*  *Antonio de Medeiros,* born in Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  He 
> was the son of Andre de Medeiros and Ana Francisca de Jesus.  He married *3. 
> Bernardina or Bernarda Francisca de Resendes* 01 Nov 1828 in Povoacao, 
> Mae de Deus.
>
> *3.*  *Bernardina or Bernarda Francisca de Resendes,* born in 
> Povoacao, Mae de Deus.  She was the daughter of Joao de Almeida Resendes 
> and Laureana Francisca.
>
>  
>
> Notes for Bernardina or Bernarda Francisca de Resendes:
>
> She married with name Bernardina Francisca de Rezende
>
>  
>
> Marriage Notes for Antonio Medeiros and Bernardina Resendes:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840_item1/P55.html
>
> 
>
> Child of Antonio Medeiros and Bernardina Resendes is:
>
> 1     i.Jose de Medeiros, born in Povoacao, Mae de 
> Deus; married Ana Jacinta 04 Jan 1849 in Povoacao, Mae de Deus.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 12:41:01 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> I have been trying to find the baptism record of my 5th great uncle Jose 
>> de Medeiros. So far the only item I have been able to find if the marriage 
>> record to my 5th great aunt Anna de Jesus.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854_item1/P111.html
>>  
>> (right side)
>>
>> This record is a bit light and hard to read. I have tried everything I 
>> could to be able to read the record.
>>
>> Jose's parents are Antonio de Medeiros & Bernardina de Resendes. This 
>> information came from the above marriage record and his son's baptism 
>> record. The marriage record states that both families are from Mae de Deus, 
>> but I have yet to find Jose's baptism record (back to 1815). Nor have I 
>> been able to locate his parents marriage record. 
>>
>> Does the marriage record list another village Jose is from, or his age at 
>> the time he was married?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul G
>>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose de Medeiros of Ilha Sao Miguel

[Paul]

Thanks Rick for your suggestion and Cheri for your info. I had stopped 
looking at the baptism records at the end of December 1827, then looked 
from 1826 to the mid-teens. Took your suggestion started from December 1830 
and eventually found Jose's parents marriage in late 1828. So I have been 
searching the baptism records from the marriage date forward. Since the 
early 1829 Mae de Deus baptism records have water damage at the top of the 
page the beginning of those records are missing the child's name, the 
father's name and at times even the mother's name. I'll have to go back to 
those records and try to find either a grandparents name or an Aunt or 
Uncle that happens to be a padrinho (hopefully I spell it correctly). 
Louie, you are correct. that is where I am looking.

Paul G.

On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 12:41:01 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>
> Hello All:
>
> I have been trying to find the baptism record of my 5th great uncle Jose 
> de Medeiros. So far the only item I have been able to find if the marriage 
> record to my 5th great aunt Anna de Jesus.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854_item1/P111.html
>  
> (right side)
>
> This record is a bit light and hard to read. I have tried everything I 
> could to be able to read the record.
>
> Jose's parents are Antonio de Medeiros & Bernardina de Resendes. This 
> information came from the above marriage record and his son's baptism 
> record. The marriage record states that both families are from Mae de Deus, 
> but I have yet to find Jose's baptism record (back to 1815). Nor have I 
> been able to locate his parents marriage record. 
>
> Does the marriage record list another village Jose is from, or his age at 
> the time he was married?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul G
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose de Medeiros of Ilha Sao Miguel

[Paul]

Hello All:

I have been trying to find the baptism record of my 5th great uncle Jose de 
Medeiros. So far the only item I have been able to find if the marriage 
record to my 5th great aunt Anna de Jesus.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1841-1854_item1/P111.html
 
(right side)

This record is a bit light and hard to read. I have tried everything I 
could to be able to read the record.

Jose's parents are Antonio de Medeiros & Bernardina de Resendes. This 
information came from the above marriage record and his son's baptism 
record. The marriage record states that both families are from Mae de Deus, 
but I have yet to find Jose's baptism record (back to 1815). Nor have I 
been able to locate his parents marriage record. 

Does the marriage record list another village Jose is from, or his age at 
the time he was married?

Thanks,
Paul G

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA Shipping of new kits is really behind

[Paul]

Hi Cheri,

Yes, that is correct. I checked the tracking number this morning. Should be 
here the 29 or 30.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA Shipping of new kits is really behind

[Paul]

My kit finally started its shipping trip.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal e Prospero Ano Novo (Merry Christmas/Happy New Year) Thread

[Paul]

Feliz Natal e Prospero Ano Novo. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA site

[Paul]

Cheri,

That's exactly what I did. Started typing ftdna on the address bar then 
clicked the option for the site. I then saved it as a "favorite" on my IPad.

Paul G.


On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 12:05:54 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Paul G, Are you doing something weird, like my dad would??? LOL
>
> Just type: ftdna into the URL/address bar. Hold Ctrl and press Enter 
> (keyboard shortcut for adding the www before and the .com at the end).
>  [image: Inline image 1] 
> See that up there? I just type in ftdna and do the keyboard shortcut. If I 
> want Home Depot, I just type homedepot and do the Ctrl+Enter key. 
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Paul > 
> wrote:
>
>> Finally I was able to get on. Just started typing in FTDNA (like doing a 
>> search) and clicked on the option for the site. Interesting.
>>
>> Paul G.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA site

[Paul]

Finally I was able to get on. Just started typing in FTDNA (like doing a 
search) and clicked on the option for the site. Interesting.

Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA site

[Paul]

Just tried it again this morning around 8:00 AM (ET) and nothing. Yes it 
will eventually time out. All I want to do is check the code for this week.

Paul G.

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 2:04:41 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Wait, are you talking about the "Uh oh Houston, we have a problem" error? 
> The time out error? Yes, they are having time out errors due to the sale 
> traffic and all the results coming in. 
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> Nope. I'm on it right now (11 pm PST)
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Paul > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is something going on with the FTDNA site? I have tried to log on at two 
>>> different places on different computers, nothing.
>>>
>>> Paul G.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA site

[Paul]

Is something going on with the FTDNA site? I have tried to log on at two 
different places on different computers, nothing.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Brimmer/Bremer/Bramer-Silva family

[Paul]

Looking for suggestions on where to go. Ermelinda Silva is my great aunt on my 
paternal grandmother's side.

Johann Wilhelm Brimmer b: abt 1845 Germany
 +Helene Charlotte Meyer/Mueler b: Germany
  Gusto/Gustav b: 1887 Hawaii
  Antone b: 1877 Hawaii; d: 1954 California
   +Ermelinda “Hilda” (Silva) b: 1895 Lomba do Loucao, Povoacao; m: 1912 
Lihue, Hawaii; d: California
   Lovey M. b: 1914 Hawaii; d: 1918 California
   George b: 1915 Hawaii; d: 1994 California
+Margaret ? b: abt 1921; m: abt 1936; d: ?
George, Jr. b: 1936 California
Robert b: 1937 California
Lovey b: 1939 California
   Tony b: 1918 California
  Anna “Annie” Helene b: 1889 Hawaii; d: 1953 Hawaii
   +Gerhardt Otholt b: 1884; m: abt 1809 Hawaii; d: 1965 Hawaii
   Charles B. b: 1909 Hawaii; d: 1976 Hawaii
   Infant b: 1914; d: 1915 Hawaii
   Dora Helene b: 1917 Hawaii; d: 1927 Hawaii
  Wilhelm Johann b: 1893 Hawaii

The 1900 Census lists the family surname as Brimmer. In 1910 it is listed as 
Bremer. 1940 has it as Bramer/Brammer.
I have two DNA cousins that I am trying figure out how they are related to me. 
Brian Bremer is a predicted 2nd cousin, and his daughter Breanne Diaz [Bremer] 
(she was put up for adoption). I am waiting for a reply from Breanne or her 
adopted sister as to when and where Breanne was born. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder's new matching tool (on FTDNA)

[Paul]

Purple band-aid works.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 9:44:39 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> The purple band-aid?
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder's new matching tool (on FTDNA)

[Paul]

I found that when you have a relative with a broken link (what looks like a 
broken paper clip) if you click the the "paper clip" to re-establish the 
link this will take care of the drag and drop. This may not remove your 
relative(s) immediately from the DNA match list. To update, all I did was 
to go out of my tree and back in. Those relatives that were on the match 
list the first time were off.

Paul G.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 7:54:10 PM UTC-5, Elaine Mello wrote:
>
> hi Cheri,
>
>I tried following Method 1 and obviously missed something.  I tried 
> dragging someone over to my tree and it put that person in the place of the 
> common ancestor.  I had to re-upload my tree to fix that.  Not sure what 
> I'm doing wrong, perhaps with the drag? But whatever I tried didn't seem to 
> work.  I may be confused on #3 to search for a match name - I assume that 
> needs to be a common ancestor, is that correct?  
> Elaine 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 3:41:05 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> NOTE:
>> After dragging the match over to your tree and saying "Self" you will 
>> click the Confirm or OK button. I think it's on the left. I can't see mine, 
>> as it's below my task bar. I'd have to make the screen smaller (and thus 
>> unreadable) in order to see those dang buttons.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry about that. I got into explaining the screen shot and then didn't 
>>> tell anyone how to make it work.
>>>
>>> Method 1:
>>> 1) Upload your Gedcom back about 10 generations. Include everybody for 
>>> those 10 generations (or whatever you have. Something is better than 
>>> nothing).
>>> 2) After the Gedcom is uploaded, click the DNA MATCHES button in the 
>>> upper left corner.
>>> 3) Search for your match name in your tree (top center search box)
>>> 4) Click and drag the person from the Match list to the tree.
>>> 5) Pick "Self"
>>> You will have to give the system a few minutes to run it through.
>>>
>>> Most of us don't have our entire tree including all those collateral 
>>> lines. I suggest you redo your Gedcom. Method 2 is tedious.
>>>
>>> Method 2:
>>> 1) Look at your match's page and find the common ancestor.
>>> 2) Manually add the matches lineage to your tree using the FTDNA 
>>> cumbersome method.
>>> (Much easier to make it do the Parental Matching if you do a 1st cousin 
>>> on each side of your family to start.
>>>
>>> Method 3:
>>> 1) Look at your match's page and find the common ancestor.
>>> 2) Add them into your genealogy software or ask them to Gedcom their 
>>> lineage over to you.
>>> 3) Upload a new Gedcom.
>>>
>>> There are problems though. If you match Wilma Flintstone on your match 
>>> list, she's most likely Wilma Slaghoople in the genealogy, as that is her 
>>> maiden name. You'd have to search for Wilma only and wade through all of 
>>> them. Not a problem if it really was Wilma. Ours are Maria. And that middle 
>>> name field is creating havoc for us. How many Maria de Jesus' do we have in 
>>> our trees? Searching for her will pull up way too many. I tried to get the 
>>> tree guy to understand. I really did. I think he's too new to the company. 
>>> I'll just have to keep trying.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:44 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't see any paternal/maternal/both matches on mine. Is it not live 
>>>> yet?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>>>>>
>>>>> At the administrator conference, they had a lecture on the new Family 
>>>>> Finder matching tool.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is where some programming has been put into place and based on 
>>>>> your matches, you'll be able to see your paternal matches from your

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker FTM16 support ending - Need Info on New Program

[Paul]

I started with PAF. When they stopped supporting it I used the Essential 
Version of Roots Magic. I have since bought the software and have *NEVER* 
had an issue. Roots Magic also has a FaceBook page with plenty of people 
ready and willing to assist you if you should any questions and they let 
you know about any updates.

Paul G.

On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:31:54 AM UTC-4, Theresa Entin wrote:
>
> Hello, to all of the people who are using Family Tree Maker,  I have used 
> it for many years and just recently learned of something in the program 
> that usually fixes any of the glitches it has.  Also, on Facebook they have 
> a Family Tree Maker page that gives advice and also updates to it.
>
> This is the thing that you should do* often* with the FTM program.  Under 
> the TOOLS pull down menu, there is a COMPACT FILE.  You should compact the 
> file if the program crashes, or if you are having issues with uploading it 
> to Ancestry.  Or just as a good thing to do.
>
> When you compact the file, it will give you a % of space it compacted.  It 
> should compact to 0.0%.  You may have to compact the file a couple of 
> times.  Even though I compact all the time now, I usually have to do it 2 
> times before I get it 0.0%.
>
> If you use Facebook, it is a good page to join because the programers from 
> MacKiev monitor it and answer very quickly if you have an issue.
>
>
>
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 9:24 PM, JR > wrote:
>
> You can try Roots Magic 7. It's free for the Essential Version. It's not 
> what you are used to, but it is easy to use and will import FTW files 
> without errors. That's important and better than importing a Gedcom file. 
> Legacy is also easy to use. Just be sure back up your files unto a flash 
> drive or CD or both!
>
> JR 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 7:48:10 PM UTC-4, celeste perry wrote:
>>
>>
>> Your email describes me exactly, Elaine!  If you find an answer to your 
>> questions, please let me know. 
>> Celeste 
>> Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com 
>>
>>  
>> On Wed, 10/26/16, E" Sharp  wrote: 
>>
>>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker FTM16 support ending - 
>> Need Info on New Program 
>>  To: "azores"  
>>  Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2016, 10:48 AM 
>>   
>>  FTM support is supposed 
>>  to end the end of the year.  I have FTM 16.  Has anyone 
>>  changed to a different program or the new company who is 
>>  supposed to take over FTM users? Any other program to make 
>>  an easy switch?  I am looking for an easy switch and how to 
>>  do it and what I will and/or will not lose. Remember, I am 
>>  not a computer genius...or anywhere near it. 
>>  "E" 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] filha natural vs. filho adulterous

[Paul]

On the 1880 record, third line from the bottom lists the mother's name Maria 
Quiteria. The next line down, just under the mother's surname is the missing 
husbands name Marianno de Mello. Both the 1880 & 1882 records state that he was 
in Brazil. Only the 1880 record says he's been missing for 8 years.

Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] filha natural vs. filho adulterous

[Paul]

The third line from the bottom lists the mothers Maria Quiteria. The following 
line just under the mother's surname lists the absent husbands name, Marianno 
de Mello. Both the 1880 & 1882 baptism records list him being in Brazil. Only 
the 1880 record states he's been missing for 8 years.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] filha natural vs. filho adulterous

[Paul]

Here is the link for Manuel

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P174.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] filha natural vs. filho adulterous

[Paul]

My 3rd great aunt Maria de Jesus b: 1849 Mae de Deus, m: 1867 Mae de Deus, 
filha Manoel Jacintho Duarte & Maria Quiteria de Jesus
Her husband  Marian(n)o de Mello b: mid 1840's, filho Manoel de Mello & 
Maria Soares

Marriage record: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869_item1/P125.html

They had two daughters in 1868 & 1869. Then in 1800 Maria had another child 
[filha natural] named Maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P16.html

This baptism record states the husband has been absent in Brazil for 8 
years. About two years later Maria has a son [filho adulterous] named 
Manuel, again states the husband as being absent.

My question is what makes the Manuel's birth adulterous but his sister's 
birth *NOT* adulterous?

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Brazil records

[Paul]

Where can I find online Brazilian genealogy records? 

Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3rd great aunt Maria Quiteria de Jesus of Mae de Deus, Sao Miguel

[Paul]

Thanks Bill. Now I have to see if he is on the passport lists in the early 
1870's with a destination of Brasil. If he is not listed, I wonder how they 
discovered he was living in Brasil. Not knowing what the laws were then or 
the Church's outlook on this, but would she not be able to remarry because 
her husband has been absent for so long?

Paul G.

On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 12:09:48 PM UTC-4, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> What I am seeing is ...Maria Quiteria, de servicio domestic, casada com?? 
> Mariano de Mello ausente no Imperio do Brasil haverá oito anos.
>
> So I believe she works in domestic service and is married to Mariano de 
> Mello who has been absent in the Empire of Brazil for eight years. (Brazil 
> was called the Empire of Brazil until 1889)
>
> Bill Seidler
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 7:28:38 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the replies. Here is another baptismo record:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P16.html
>>  
>> (lower right & continues on next page)
>>
>> I am having problems reading some words on the last two lines. Here is 
>> what I see filha natural Maria Quitéria, domestica casada ? ? Marianno de 
>> Mello missing husband (might say disappeared), the rest of the last line 
>> looks like imperio da British ? oito annos. The British Royal Navy took him 
>> for 8 years?
>>
>> Paul G.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 9:27:01 PM UTC-4, John Raposo wrote:
>>>
>>> In a nut shell it means that Manuel's mother, Maria Quiteria, committed 
>>> adultery and that Manuel is the product of the affair. Her husband had been 
>>> absent for too long to be the child's biological father.
>>>
>>> John Miranda Raposo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 3:12 PM, Paul  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> While looking for baptism records for another relative I stumbled upon 
>>> this record for Manuel, filho adulterino do Maria Quiteria [my 3rd great 
>>> aunt].
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P174.html
>>>  
>>> (lower right)
>>>
>>> according to Google translate, after her name it says married, (a word I 
>>> am unable to figure out) absent husband. What do the mean? Did he just up 
>>> and leave, if so WHEN? Possibly did not return after his mandatory military 
>>> service? I have not found an obito for the absent husband (Marianno de 
>>> Mello).
>>>
>>> Maria is the daughter of my 3rd great grandparents Manuel Jacintho 
>>> Duarte & Maria Quiteria de Jesus. In Mae de Deus Maria married Marianno de 
>>> Mello in 1867.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
>>>  
>>> (lower left/top right)
>>>
>>> Marianno and Maria had a daughter, Maria born in 1868 but died six days 
>>> later. Another daughter was born in 1869 also named Maria. I am still 
>>> searching for other children from this marriage, so far nothing through 
>>> 1874.
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul G.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3rd great aunt Maria Quiteria de Jesus of Mae de Deus, Sao Miguel

[Paul]

Thanks for the replies. Here is another baptismo record:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P16.html
 
(lower right & continues on next page)

I am having problems reading some words on the last two lines. Here is what 
I see filha natural Maria Quitéria, domestica casada ? ? Marianno de Mello 
missing husband (might say disappeared), the rest of the last line looks 
like imperio da British ? oito annos. The British Royal Navy took him for 8 
years?

Paul G.

On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 9:27:01 PM UTC-4, John Raposo wrote:
>
> In a nut shell it means that Manuel's mother, Maria Quiteria, committed 
> adultery and that Manuel is the product of the affair. Her husband had been 
> absent for too long to be the child's biological father.
>
> John Miranda Raposo
>
>
> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 3:12 PM, Paul  > wrote:
>
>
> While looking for baptism records for another relative I stumbled upon 
> this record for Manuel, filho adulterino do Maria Quiteria [my 3rd great 
> aunt].
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P174.html
>  
> (lower right)
>
> according to Google translate, after her name it says married, (a word I 
> am unable to figure out) absent husband. What do the mean? Did he just up 
> and leave, if so WHEN? Possibly did not return after his mandatory military 
> service? I have not found an obito for the absent husband (Marianno de 
> Mello).
>
> Maria is the daughter of my 3rd great grandparents Manuel Jacintho Duarte 
> & Maria Quiteria de Jesus. In Mae de Deus Maria married Marianno de Mello 
> in 1867.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
>  
> (lower left/top right)
>
> Marianno and Maria had a daughter, Maria born in 1868 but died six days 
> later. Another daughter was born in 1869 also named Maria. I am still 
> searching for other children from this marriage, so far nothing through 
> 1874.
>
>
> Paul G.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] 3rd great aunt Maria Quiteria de Jesus of Mae de Deus, Sao Miguel

[Paul]

While looking for baptism records for another relative I stumbled upon this 
record for Manuel, filho adulterino do Maria Quiteria [my 3rd great aunt].

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1880-1882_item1/P174.html
 
(lower right)

according to Google translate, after her name it says married, (a word I am 
unable to figure out) absent husband. What do the mean? Did he just up and 
leave, if so WHEN? Possibly did not return after his mandatory military 
service? I have not found an obito for the absent husband (Marianno de 
Mello).

Maria is the daughter of my 3rd great grandparents Manuel Jacintho Duarte & 
Maria Quiteria de Jesus. In Mae de Deus Maria married Marianno de Mello in 
1867.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
 
(lower left/top right)

Marianno and Maria had a daughter, Maria born in 1868 but died six days 
later. Another daughter was born in 1869 also named Maria. I am still 
searching for other children from this marriage, so far nothing through 
1874.


Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese-African ancestry

[Paul]

According to both FTDNA and 23andMe I have some African DNA in my family. 
FTDNA has my total at 2% African, while the 23andMe total is 1.5% Sub 
Saharan African. I have no idea if this is from my paternal or maternal 
side of my family. My paternal great grandparents were from the Azores 
(Silva-de Medeiros) and Madeira (Gomes-de Sousa). Maternal great 
grandparents were from Sweden (Berglund-Jonsson) and England 
(Matthews-Harvey). Besides O Africano, what are some of the other terms I 
should be looking for in the baptismo, casamento, or obito records?

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Confusing Lomba do Loucao abp

[Paul]

How common was it for the priest to switch the name of the child with the 
father? The link below I believe is for a son (Manuel) of my third great 
uncle Jose Bernardo de Andrade, but the priest placed Jose's name as the 
child and Manuel as the father. The mother is correct Maria de Conceicao as 
well as the both sets of grandparents. I have checked for an obito for Jose 
in Lomba do Loucao and found nothing, besides No.3 in the column lists 
someone died in 1986 (Jose?). Nor is there a marriage listed for Manuel and 
Maria.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904_item1/P108.html
 
(lower left to upper right)

Thanks,
Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Great-uncle Francisco Silva

[Paul]

Hi Theresa,

I'll take any help you can provide. My email address is 
pagome...@comcast.net. 

As for the strange way I have the surname listed, my 3 great grandfather 
Bernardino Jose de Andrade b: 1819 moved to Sao Miguel from Santa Maria 
sometime prior to his first marriage in 1841 to Escolatica Maria do 
Espirito Santo (it is along her line that the Silva surname appears). This 
marriage produced 3 children. Their first child Francisco Bernardo (2 great 
grandfather) used the surname of de Andrade until his children were born 
when he adopted the Silva surname. Hence the da Silva/de Andrade surname. 
It just so happens that his wife Anna de Mello adopted the surname de 
Medeiros (her paternal great grandmother's surname) when she married 
Francisco.

Thanks,
Paul G.

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 9:03:33 AM UTC-4, Theresa Entin wrote:
>
> Hi Paul, I have some really early Andrade Silva’s 1747 in Santa Maria.  I 
> found it interesting when you posted because Andrade Silva is unusual. 
>  Silva is not a Santa Maria  name usually.  I can share them with you if 
> you think it might be a clue.  
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Paul > 
> wrote:
>
> My apologies Cheri if my post offended you or anyone else, that was not my 
> intent. Francisco is/was the missing sibling of my grandmother Gloria. I 
> would research him get frustrated, then move onto another person or branch. 
> After taking a long break I would start the process all over again. I will 
> take advantage of Cheri's "spidey" sense since she know about genealogy 
> than I. I access the CCA via the Tombo.pt <http://tombo.pt> site. It 
> seems to be quicker than going directly to CCA. Thanks Cheri, JR and Aaron 
> for your help.
>
> Paul G.
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 2:19:27 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>>
>> Hello group,
>>
>> I am in need of assistance in locating my great-uncle Francisco Silva's 
>> baptism record. According to the passenger manifest for the S. S. Suveric 5 
>> Oct 1906 he was two years old. It lists the last town where the family 
>> lived as Povoacao and that the entire family was born in Lomba do Loucao. I 
>> have checked all of the parish's of Povoacao for the baptism record and 
>> found nothing. I am currently checking the parishes of Vila Franca do Campo 
>> to be followed by Nordeste. Hopefully someone has him or his family in 
>> their tree or data base.
>>
>> Francisco Silva b:?, filho Manuel Bernardo (da) Silva & Maria dos Santo 
>> de Medeiros
>> paterno: Francisco Bernardo da Silva/de Andrade & Anna de Mello/de 
>> Medeiros
>> materno: Manuel Jacintho Duarte & Margarida de Medeiros
>> siblings: Maria b: 1892
>>  Ermelinda b: 1895
>>  Maria Anjos b: 1898
>>  Maria 1900-1906
>>  Manuel b: 1903
>>  Joseph b: 1907 Hawaii
>>  Laura b: 1910 Hawaii
>>  Gloria b: 1912 Hawaii (my grandmother)
>>
>> Any assistance will be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul G
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Great-uncle Francisco Silva

[Paul]

My apologies Cheri if my post offended you or anyone else, that was not my 
intent. Francisco is/was the missing sibling of my grandmother Gloria. I 
would research him get frustrated, then move onto another person or branch. 
After taking a long break I would start the process all over again. I will 
take advantage of Cheri's "spidey" sense since she know about genealogy 
than I. I access the CCA via the Tombo.pt site. It seems to be quicker than 
going directly to CCA. Thanks Cheri, JR and Aaron for your help.

Paul G.

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 2:19:27 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>
> Hello group,
>
> I am in need of assistance in locating my great-uncle Francisco Silva's 
> baptism record. According to the passenger manifest for the S. S. Suveric 5 
> Oct 1906 he was two years old. It lists the last town where the family 
> lived as Povoacao and that the entire family was born in Lomba do Loucao. I 
> have checked all of the parish's of Povoacao for the baptism record and 
> found nothing. I am currently checking the parishes of Vila Franca do Campo 
> to be followed by Nordeste. Hopefully someone has him or his family in 
> their tree or data base.
>
> Francisco Silva b:?, filho Manuel Bernardo (da) Silva & Maria dos Santo de 
> Medeiros
> paterno: Francisco Bernardo da Silva/de Andrade & Anna de Mello/de Medeiros
> materno: Manuel Jacintho Duarte & Margarida de Medeiros
> siblings: Maria b: 1892
>  Ermelinda b: 1895
>  Maria Anjos b: 1898
>  Maria 1900-1906
>  Manuel b: 1903
>  Joseph b: 1907 Hawaii
>  Laura b: 1910 Hawaii
>  Gloria b: 1912 Hawaii (my grandmother)
>
> Any assistance will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul G
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Great-uncle Francisco Silva

[Paul]

Hi Cheri, As I stated in my original post I have checked ALL the baptism 
records of ALL the parishes of Povoacao and found nothing. The closest record 
had the father as Manuel Pacheco, the mother as Anna de Medeiros, but the 
grandparents (paternal & maternal) are wrong. Also, I have checked the 
passports starting with the one closest to when the Suveric left and going back 
to 1902 stopping at every person named Manuel. No Manuel Bernardo Silva and 
family listed. I believe there was a separate list kept for those whose passage 
was paid for by Hawaiian Sugar Plantation conglomerates (aka the Hawaiian 
Immigration Board). I even e-mailed the CCA asking if there was such a list. 
Their reply.the cost of doing the research, and how to pay. 

After the Suveric left Sao Miguel it went to Ilha Madeira to pick up more 
people. The Suveric left Funchal on 10 Oct 1906 for Hawaii. Sometime after 
leaving they discovered (from what I have read) 500 stow-a-ways. Kind of hard 
to hide a family of seven on a boat.

Paul

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Great-uncle Francisco Silva

[Paul]

Hello group,

I am in need of assistance in locating my great-uncle Francisco Silva's 
baptism record. According to the passenger manifest for the S. S. Suveric 5 
Oct 1906 he was two years old. It lists the last town where the family 
lived as Povoacao and that the entire family was born in Lomba do Loucao. I 
have checked all of the parish's of Povoacao for the baptism record and 
found nothing. I am currently checking the parishes of Vila Franca do Campo 
to be followed by Nordeste. Hopefully someone has him or his family in 
their tree or data base.

Francisco Silva b:?, filho Manuel Bernardo (da) Silva & Maria dos Santo de 
Medeiros
paterno: Francisco Bernardo da Silva/de Andrade & Anna de Mello/de Medeiros
materno: Manuel Jacintho Duarte & Margarida de Medeiros
siblings: Maria b: 1892
 Ermelinda b: 1895
 Maria Anjos b: 1898
 Maria 1900-1906
 Manuel b: 1903
 Joseph b: 1907 Hawaii
 Laura b: 1910 Hawaii
 Gloria b: 1912 Hawaii (my grandmother)

Any assistance will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul G

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Great-uncle Francisco Silva

[Paul]

Hello group,

I am in need of assistance in locating my great-uncle Francisco Silva's 
baptism record. According to the passenger manifest for the S. S. Suveric 5 
Oct 1906 he was two years old. It lists the last town where the family 
lived as Povoacao and that the entire family was born in Lomba do Loucao. I 
have checked all of the parish's of Povoacao for the baptism record and 
found nothing. I am currently checking the parishes of Lagoa to be followed 
by Nordeste. Hopefully someone has him or his family in their tree or data 
base.

Francisco Silva b:?, filho Manuel Bernardo (da) Silva & Maria dos Santo de 
Medeiros
paterno: Francisco Bernardo da Silva/de Andrade & Anna de Mello/de Medeiros
materno: Manuel Jacintho Duarte & Margarida de Medeiros
siblings: Maria b: 1892
 Ermelinda b: 1895
 Maria Anjos b: 1898
 Maria 1900-1906
 Manuel b: 1903
 Joseph b: 1907 Hawaii
 Laura b: 1910 Hawaii
 Gloria b: 1912 Hawaii (my grandmother)

Any assistance will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul G

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Possible 4th degree consanguinity

[Paul]

Hi Erica,

My paternal grandfathers family is from Madeira. I've been able to trace 
his family back to my 2nd great grandparents Jacinto Gomes & Jacinta de 
Jesus, where I have hit a nice big brick wall. Besides their marriage year 
(1871 Sao Goncalo) the only other information that I have is their 
children's DOB's from the database. I would like to know where you found 
this record. E-mail me at pagome...@comcast.net.

Paul G. 

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> tell me if the highlighted area is referring to a 4th degree of 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores

[Paul]

Is there a record of individuals or family's moving from one island to 
another? If so, where would I find it? Lately I've been researching my 4th 
great grandparents, Jose Ignacio de Andrade & Barbara Jacintha and their 7 
sons. All were born in Assuncao, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria. I found 
baptismo records for everyone and Jose & Barbara casamentos, but no 
marriage records for the children nor obitos for anyone. Until 1841 when my 
3rd great grandfather Bernadino Jose de Andrade (Jose & Barbara's first 
born) married Escolastica Maria do Espirito Santo in Estralla, Ribeira 
Grande, Sao Miguel. So either Bernardino or the whole de Andrade/Jacintha 
family moved between 1836-1841.

*de Andrade/Jacintha Family*

Jose Ignacio de Andrade b: 1796, filho Jose Francisco de Andrade & 
Francisca Roza, married
 Barbara Jacintha b: 1797, filha Boaventura Jose de Braga & Francisca Roza
  Bernardino Jose de Andrade b: 1819
  Francisco de Andrade b: 1821
  Manoel de Andrade b: 1823
  Ignacio de Andrade b: 1826
  Antonio de Andrade b: 1829
  Jacinto de Andrade b: 1833
  Mariano de Andrade b: 1836

The mother's of Jose and Barbara have different birth years, 1754 & 1766.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Joao de Braga of Ilha Santa Maria Obito 1745

[Paul]

Hello All:

Attached is the obito of my 8th great uncle Joao de Braga, filho Domingos 
de Braga & Anna de Mello. Joao married Catherina de Sena on 10 Oct 1744 in 
Assunção. 
Joao & Catherina had a daughter, Ursula Tereza b: 9 Jul 1745 also in Assunção. 
A little over a month later Joao died. My question is what is written in 
the margin to the left of the obito? I see *declare(d)  ??? 31 ?? August 
? Joao de Braga  ? ? ??* 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-O-1701-1753/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-O-1701-1753_item1/P180.html
 
(lower left)

Thanks,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anna de Mello baptismo record? Assuncao, Santa Maria

[Paul]

sfig, I have Anna de Mello married to Domingos de Braga (Bragua) in 1710 
Assuncao, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria.

Thanks JR, I'll place this record in the possible box and continue to look.

Paul G.

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> Who is Anna de Mello married to?
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> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Paul > 
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>> I hope that I found my 8X g grandmother's baptismo record. Anna de Mello, 
>> filha Manoel de Mello (Rodrigues) & Catherina Velha. It looks like the 
>> priest abbreviated her parents first & last names.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1667-1697/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1667-1697_item1/P29.html
>>  
>> (middle right)
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Anna de Mello baptismo record? Assuncao, Santa Maria

[Paul]

I hope that I found my 8X g grandmother's baptismo record. Anna de Mello, 
filha Manoel de Mello (Rodrigues) & Catherina Velha. It looks like the 
priest abbreviated her parents first & last names.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1667-1697/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1667-1697_item1/P29.html
 
(middle right)

Thanks,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Domingos de Braga & Anna de Mello

[Paul]

The following record is for my other 8X g grandparents Domingos de Braga & 
Anna de Mello, also from Ilha Santa Maria. The only question that I have is 
where were they baptized? I believe Anna was born/baptized in Assuncao, 
Santa Maria and Domingos was born on Ilha Sao Miguel but which Concelho and 
Freguesia?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1699-1717/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1699-1717_item1/P64.html
 
(lower right)

Thanks for your assistance.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Domingos de Moura & Maria Candeias/de Mello marriage 1713 Sao Pedro, Santa Maria?

[Paul]

Hopefully I found my 8X great grandparents casamento record from Sao Pedro, 
Santa Maria. Domingos de Moura, filho Gaspar de Fontes(?) and ? de Moura. 
Maria de Mello, filha ? (what looks to be) Pacheco and Maria de Mello(?)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1701-1730/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-C-1701-1730_item1/P24.html
 
(top left)

Any assistance will be great.

Thanks,
Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New to tracing the Mello family tree

[Paul Rapoza]

Elaine, I found the marriage record for Antonio and Maria online. Here is a 
link: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4F8-CZ5


Regards,
Paul Rapoza

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ilha Santa Maria

[Paul]

After more than a year away from researching them I decide to go back to my 
8X g grandparents (both sides) Domingos de Braga & Anna de Mello and 
Domingos de Moura/Moira & Maria Candeias/de Mello.

*de Braga/de Mello*

Domingos and Anna were married 17 Sep 1710 in Assunção, Vila do Porto, 
Santa 
Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1699-1717/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1699-1717_item1/P64.html
 
(lower right)

 children: Jose de Braga
  Joanna de Mello 1716
  Manoel de Braga 1719

I have not found a baptism record for Jose, though I did find this at the 
beginning of the 1713-1720 records

 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1713-1720/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1713-1720_item1/P12.html
 
top right.

At the top is what appears to be Domingos Brag? and then a date of 22 Dec 
17??. I hope this is Jose's baptism.


*de Moura/Moira Candeias/de Mello*

This branch is a little more perplexing in that I have yet to find a 
marriage record for Domingos and Maria.

 children: Izabel 1715 Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa 
Maria 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1707-1723/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1707-1723_item1/P45.html
 
(middle left)
  Manoel de Moura/Moira 1717 Assunção, Vila do Porto, Santa 
Maria 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1713-1720/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1713-1720_item1/P90.html
 
(top right)
  Joaquim 1721 Assunção, Vila do Porto, Santa 
Maria 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1720-1733/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1720-1733_item1/P18.html
 
(left page)
  Maria Candeias/de Mello 1723 Assunção, Vila do Porto, 
Santa 
Maria 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1720-1733/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1720-1733_item1/P58.html
 
(lower left)

I also believe that Domingos de Moura has been married two more times. I 
have a obito for a Don(n)a Antonia ? in 
1724 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-O-1701-1753/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-O-1701-1753_item1/P80.html
 
(top right very hard to read) and a casamento for Domingos and Francisca 
Quiteria de Sousa 5 Nov 1725 in Santo 
Espirito 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1708-1730/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1708-1730_item1/P53.html
 
(lower right and continues to the next page). Before you ask, no I have not 
found an obito for Maria.

Thanks,
Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ilha Santa Maria

[Paul]

Hello group:

After more than a year away, I decided to go back to researching my 8th g 
grandparents Domingos de Braga & Anna de Mello and Domingos de Moura/Moira 
& Maria Candeias/de Mello.

*de Braga/de Mello*

Domingos and Anna were married 17 Sep 1710 in Assunção, Vila do Porto, 
Santa Maria. With:



http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1735-1755/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1735-1755_item1/P67.html
 
(jose-izabel marriage)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name on Baptism record

[Paul]

Hello all:

I am in need of assistance on the following baptism record. The name of the 
child I see as Lorenda. Her parents are my 5th great grandparents Manuel de 
Resendes & Joanna Borges. Listed in the padrinhos is what looks to be the 
same first name Lorenda da Roza.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792_item1/P73.html
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA 500 Error

[Paul]

Hi Cheri,

I've tried using both Internet Explorer (PC running Win 8 or above) and 
Google Chrome (on the same PC) and get the 500 Internet Server error on 
both. At times I can view 4-5 pages before I get the error. I also get the 
message on my IPad. I get this error whether I am viewing the records via 
Tombo.pt or CCA. So I agree with Laura, that the error is coming from the 
CCA site.

Paul G.

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> Calling all computer geeks
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> I tried to access the CCA through the following:
> Internet Explorer (PC running Windows 8): Successful
> Samsung s4 phone: Successful
> Chrome (PC running Windows 8): Cleared cookies. Failed.
> Firefox (PC running Windows 8): Cleared cookies. Failed.
>
> Those who are getting on the CCA and viewing the image: What are using? 
> (Look at my paragraph above to describe).
>
> Those who are getting a 500 error: What are you using? (Look at paragraph 
> above to describe). 
>
> Can any of you computer geek techies help? Is it us?
> Cheri Mello
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Silva from Ribeira Grande; Ferreira Siridonio from Furnas early 1900s Sao Miguel island

[Paul Silva]

Hey Cheri,

These are my mom's grandparents...

Cheers,
Paul in Waterloo

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> Got this from a DNA participant.  Does anyone just happen to have these 
> people in their tree?
>
> Fernando da Silva born c. 1901 Ribeira Grande (no church given) m. Maria 
> do Carmo Ferreira Siridonio born c. 1907  Furnas.  Maria's mother is Maria 
> de Belinda (an alcunha) and she was from Ribeira Quente.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco de Andrade (Ilha Santa Maria) mother's maiden name

[Paul]

Well, I have to admit that I made a mistake (shocking!! Lol). I had two 
children with what I thought were the same parents. The only problem being they 
appeared to be born almost 20 years apart. Finally, I decided to check it out 
and discovered that Francisco & Antonia were married 2 Sep 1770 in Assuncao.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1755-1777/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1755-1777_item1/P94.html

Francisco was born in Santa Barbara, Ilha Santa Maria.

Thanks to those of you who replied to my original post, albeit with incorrect 
info. Hopefully it helped someone.

Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco de Andrade (Ilha Santa Maria) mother's maiden name

[Paul]

Tish, here is what I have for Francisco's children: Jose b: 1771, and 
Francisco b: 1774 both in Assunção, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria.

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> Paul,
> Who are his children? Are they from Santa Barbara?
> Tish
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> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Paul > 
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>> Could someone please let me know the mother's maiden names are the same 
>> in the following records. They are my 6th g grandfather's Francisco de 
>> Andrade marriage and baptism records.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1735-1755/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1735-1755_item1/P134.html
>>  
>> (right side)
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1733-1743/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1733-1743_item1/P26.html
>>  
>> (top left)
>>
>> I see his father Manoel de Andrade and mother's given name as Marianna. I 
>> am not 100% sure the baptism record is his since his children's baptism 
>> records show him being from Santa Barbara, but I have not found a baptism 
>> record for him in Santa Barbara.
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco de Andrade (Ilha Santa Maria) mother's maiden name

[Paul]

Could someone please let me know the mother's maiden names are the same in 
the following records. They are my 6th g grandfather's Francisco de Andrade 
marriage and baptism records.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1735-1755/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1735-1755_item1/P134.html
 
(right side)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1733-1743/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1733-1743_item1/P26.html
 
(top left)

I see his father Manoel de Andrade and mother's given name as Marianna. I 
am not 100% sure the baptism record is his since his children's baptism 
records show him being from Santa Barbara, but I have not found a baptism 
record for him in Santa Barbara.

Thanks,
Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Ledo

[Paul]

My 7X great grandfather Francisco Ledo was married at one time to Ascencão 
da Silva. Ascencão died sometime prior to 7 Nov 1717 when Francisco married 
Maria Rabella in Esterela, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel. I have searched the 
Estrela obitos. Did not find Ascencão's death record. Decided to check 
the Conceicao obitos, but every time I check on Tombo.pt or the CCA I get a 
404 - FILE OR DIRECTORY NOT FOUND. So I am asking if there is someone on 
the list with Francisco Ledo married to Ascencão da Silva (who died prior 
to 1717) and Maria Rebella.

Thanks,
Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record Francisco Ledo & Maria Rabella 1717 Estrela, Ribeira Grande

[Paul]

The link below is for my 7th great grandparents marriage. Starts on the 
lower left and continues on the upper right. I can see that both were 
previously married, but I cannot figure out to whom Francisco was married 
to ??? da Silva.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1697-1718/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1697-1718_item1/P267.html

Thanks,
Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Gomes from Madeira to Masachusetts

[Paul]

I know this is not the right group for this post, but I believe I will get more 
responses here than the post I have on the Madeira site. My great uncle 
Francisco Gomes was born in 1876 Santa Maria Maior to Jacinto Gomes and Jacinta 
(née de Jesus) Gomes. In April 1912 he received his passport and left Madeira. 
The destination on the passport says USA. There is an entry at Ellis Island 
(web site) of his arrival with the destination of Boston. I have his passenger 
manifest on the S.S. Konig Albert; a WWI draft registration card, dated 12 Sep 
1918 listing his mother as his closest living relative (Francisco living at 
house #2 Sunnyside 
Park, Taunton, MA); and a 1923 phone directory with the same address. He had a 
brother, my great grandfather, Victorino Gomes, his wife and son that 
immigrated to Hawaii in 1906.

I am hoping someone can help with information on Francisco after he arrived in 
the U.S., or there maybe a long lost relative in the group or someone that may 
know his family.

Thanks,
Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Mauel da Pavia & Ana de Almeida marriage.

[Paul]

Hello group, I have been trying to find my 7 great grandparents Manuel da 
Pavia & Ana de Almeida casamentos. This is the closest that I have found 
middle of the right page.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1648-1707/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1648-1707_item1/P69.html

Their children were born in Faial de Terra, first being born in 1692. I 
know Faial de Terra was once part of Nordeste & Vila Franca do Campo. Did 
not find any records close to them in Vila Franca do Campo. Any help is 
appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[Paul]

Júlio,

Do you happen to have the link to Manuel Pereira da Braga's [33293] baptism 
record?

Paul G.

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>
> *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA I [33293]*,1 filho de *Manuel Pereira DUTRA*
>  [8446] 1 e *Ana FERREIRA* [33766],1 nasceu em 1662 em Fenais Da Ajuda, e 
> faleceu a 5 Set 1740 em Faial Da Terra com 78 anos de idade. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html
>
> Manuel casou com *Maria CORREIA* [31924] 1 [MRIN: 15306], filha de *Manuel 
> Rebelo SALGUEIRO* [7941] 2 e *Maria CORREIA* [7948],2 a 8 Out 1696 em 
> Faial Da Terra. Maria nasceu em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu Bef 7 Jun 1707 em 
> Faial Da Terra. 
>
> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>
> + 2 Mi. *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA [14683]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1706 em 
> Faial Da Terra. 
>
>3 Fii. *Antonia [7952]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jun 1698 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>4 Fiii. *Maria [7953]* 2 nasceu a 4 Dez 1701 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>5 Miv. *Vicente PEREIRA [7955]* 2 nasceu Abt 1702 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
>6 Mv. *Antonio VIEIRA [7957]* 2 nasceu a 17 Nov 1704 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
>7 Fvi. *Luisa [7961]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jul 1700 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
> Manuel a seguir casou com *Luisa de MELO* [35689] 1 [MRIN: 15797], filha 
> de *André Luis de ALMADA* [50986] e *Maria Pereira de SENRA* [50987], a 5 
> Jun 1707 em Faial Da Terra. Luisa nasceu em 1682 em Nordeste, e faleceu a 9 
> Set 1742 em Faial Da Terra com 60 anos de idade. 
>
> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>
> + 8 Fi. *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes Vasconcelos MELO [7963]* 2 nasceu 
> a 9 Mar 1713 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>9 Fii. *Maria Ana Vasconcelos de BRAGA [7965]* 2 nasceu a 20 Mai 
> 1719 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>10 Miii. *Manuel BRAGA [19842]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1708 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725_item1/P66.html
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[Paul]

Just need a little assistance with Manuel's age when he died in 1740. Top 
right record, third line down after his spouses name looks to me to be 
oitenta or oitenta 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html

Thanks,

Paul G

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Senra

[Paul]

Their son 
Francisco 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752_item1/P40.html
 
(lower right) is my 5th g grandfather. He married Maria Bautista filha 
Bento Furtado da Paiva & Maria Teixeira on 23 Sep 1765 in Faial da Terra.

On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 2:24:23 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> I made an assumption, which offspring (and their marriage) of this couple 
> is your ancestors?
>
> JR
>
> On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 2:12:04 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>>
>> Dec 6- 1730, Francisco de Senrra fo. de Andre de Senrra natural da Vila 
>> do Nordeste e de sua mer. Angella da Costa com Francisca de Rezendes 
>> Vascconcellos fa. de Mel. Pra. Braga nat. do lugar de Povoacam e de sua 
>> mer.sic (priest left out her first name) Luzia de Mello (Also Luzia Sousa 
>> de Mello) nat da Vila do Fayal onde os contrahentes foram 
>> baptizadosTest- Rev Cura Caetano de Miranda and Antonio da Costa homem 
>> natural de Vila de Nordeste.
>>
>> Your ancestor, Francisca de Melo or Francisca de Resendes de 
>> Vasconcelos, filha of of the above marriage, drove me nuts with those two 
>> names. Luckily she didn't have two husbands! Despite what the record says, 
>> it is not clear that Manuel Pereira Braga was baptised in Faial da Terra. I 
>> have him baptised in Povoacao. The Bragas of that area all come from Fenais 
>> de Ajuda. This branch made its way to Povoacao and then to Faial, where the 
>> descendants are many right to this day. Try to get the obtios, this may 
>> help establish where they were born based on time lines.
>>
>> This is your lucky day, I will send the rest privately.
>>
>> JR 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 11:44:26 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>> I need assistance with three names in the casamentos record for 
>>> Francisco Senra & Francisca (Resendes) de Mello. Francisco's parents given 
>>> names pai -  Senra from Nordeste (leaning towards Antonio), mai -  
>>> da Costa. Francisca's father - Manuel(?) ?? Braga(?). Her mother is 
>>> Luiza de Mello. Record is on the right.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1696-1742/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1696-1742_item1/P80.html
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Paul G.
>>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Senra

[Paul]

I need assistance with three names in the casamentos record for Francisco 
Senra & Francisca (Resendes) de Mello. Francisco's parents given names pai 
-  Senra from Nordeste (leaning towards Antonio), mai -  da Costa. 
Francisca's father - Manuel(?) ?? Braga(?). Her mother is Luiza de 
Mello. Record is on the right.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1696-1742/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1696-1742_item1/P80.html

Thanks,

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Bento Paiva/Bento Furtado

[Paul]

Julio

Thanks for the assistance. I have one correction for you. 9F v.Maria 
Baptista FURTADO you have her year of birth as 1746 when it should be 1741. 
The record for Antonia (top right) on the right page lists the year as 1741.

Paul G. 

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 3:26:39 PM UTC-5, Júlio wrote:
>
> Descendentes de António CARREIRO
> --
>
> Primeira geração
> --
> --
>
> *1. António CARREIRO [50978]* faleceu Bef 26 Nov 1724 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
> António casou com *Maria TEIXEIRA* [50979] [MRIN: 24128] Bef 1703. Maria 
> faleceu Bef 26 Nov 1724 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>
> + 2 Fi. *Maria TEIXEIRA [50863]*  faleceu a 4 Nov 1764 em Faial Da 
> Terra 
>
>3 Mii. *José CARREIRO [50982]* . 
>
>4 Fiii. *Barbara TEIXEIRA [50983]* . 
>
> Segunda geração (Filhos)
> --
>
> *2. Maria TEIXEIRA [50863]* (*António1*)  faleceu a 4 Nov 1764 em Faial 
> Da Terra  
>
> Maria casou com *Bento Furtado de PAIVA* [50862] [MRIN: 24073], filho de 
> *Manuel 
> de Paiva LEITE* [50370] e *Ana de ALMEIDA* [50371], a 26 Nov 1724 em 
> Faial Da Terra. Bento nasceu a 20 Fev 1703 em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu a 5 
> Jan 1777 em Faial Da Terra com 73 anos de idade.
>
> Notas sobre o casamento: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1696-1742/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1696-1742_item1/P68.html
>  
>
> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>
>5 Mi. *José Furtado de PAIVA [50867]* nasceu a 6 Jul 1726 em Faial 
> Da Terra. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P8.html
>
>6 Fii. *Maria PAIVA [50873]* nasceu a 6 Jul 1727 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P24.html
>
>7 Miii. *António FURTADO [50865]* nasceu a 3 Dez 1732 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P52.html
>
> António casou com *Teresa de SENRA* [50928] [MRIN: 24102], filha de *Pedro 
> Corvelo de Resendes PIMENTEL* [50929] 1 e *Maria de SENRA* [50930],1 a 21 
> Nov 1757 em Faial Da Terra.
>
>8 Miv. *Custódio FURTADO [50866]* nasceu a 12 Abr 1736 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P86.html
>
>9 Fv. *Maria Baptista FURTADO [50864]* nasceu a 24 Mar 1746 em 
> Faial Da Terra. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752_item1/P10.html
>
> Maria casou com *Francisco Pereira de BRAGA* [50931] [MRIN: 24104], filho 
> de *Francisco de SENRA* [50932] e *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes 
> Vasconcelos MELO* [7963],1 a 23 Set 1765 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>
> sexta-feira, 4 de Março de 2016 às 19:57:21 UTC-1, JR escreveu:
>>
>> I think they are same person, there is only one other Bento and he is a 
>> Braga Pereira married to Maria Ferreira. The pattern of children is 
>> consistent and does not conflict with any other with those names. So it is 
>> same people. Good work!
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:24:19 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>> For the last couple of weeks I have been researching my 6th 
>>> ggrandparents Bento Furtado & Maria Teixeira. Their daughter, Maria 
>>> Bautista is my 5th g grandmother. She has two brother before she was born 
>>> Antonio 1732 & Custodio 1736. 
>>>
>>> Maria Bautista's baptismo record (very bottom of left page [very light] 
>>> & top of next page) 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752_item1/P9.html
>>>
>>> Antonio's (top of right page) 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P52.html
>>>
>>> Custodio's (bottom left) 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P86.html
>>>
>>> All of these records say they are natural of the Freguesia, so I should 
>>> be able to find Bento & Maria's casamentos in Faial 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Bento Paiva/Bento Furtado

[Paul]

For the last couple of weeks I have been researching my 6th ggrandparents 
Bento Furtado & Maria Teixeira. Their daughter, Maria Bautista is my 5th g 
grandmother. She has two brother before she was born Antonio 1732 & 
Custodio 1736. 

Maria Bautista's baptismo record (very bottom of left page [very light] & 
top of next page) 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752_item1/P9.html

Antonio's (top of right 
page) 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P52.html

Custodio's (bottom 
left) 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P86.html

All of these records say they are natural of the Freguesia, so I should be 
able to find Bento & Maria's casamentos in Faial da Terra. I did not find 
anything for them, however I did find a find a record for a Bento Paiva & 
Maria Teixeira in 1925 (top left) 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1696-1742/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1696-1742_item1/P68.html.
 
I also found two baptismo records for Joseph & Maria.

Joseph's (middle 
left) 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P8.html

Maria's (right page/middle Maria 
listed) 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P24.html

I am wondering if Bento Paiva & Bento Furtado are the same person. I did 
find a baptismo record for Bento Paiva (middle 
left) 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725_item1/P20.html.
 
 Have not found a baptismo record for Maria Teixeira.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record of Francisco da Silva/Sylva and Maria

[Paul]

I have found the marriage record for my 6th ggrandparents Francisco da 
Silva/Sylva & Maria. I'm having a bit of trouble trying to figure out 
Maria's maiden name, along with what is between her fathers given name 
Joze(?) and his surname of Soares. Record starts a the bottom of the left 
page and finishes at the top of the right page.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1742-1756/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1742-1756_item1/P31.html

Thanks,

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Surname of the grooms mother

[Paul]

JR:

I have Jose's parents as Thome da Costa & Barbata Theiyxerya. Jozepha's are 
Joze de Medeiros & Barbara de Andrade.

Paul G.

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:17:41 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
>
> Hi JR,
>
> I am (and *was)* working in those areas. I'm researching my paternal 
> grandmother's family. They came from Sao Miguel and the only concelhos 
> that I have not found a family member in are Lagoa & Ponta Delgada.
>
> Paul G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 1:08:02 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>>
>> It's Joze da Costa filho de Barbara Theyxeyra e Thome da Costa com 
>> Jozepha Thereza do Nascimento filha de Pais nam sabido (father unknown) e 
>> de Maria da Ponte todos naturais desta Villa (RGE)
>>
>> What were the ancestors before theses? I thought you were working in 
>> Faial da Terra and Povoacao.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 12:56:05 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the surname of the grooms mother? Record is on the right page. I 
>>> can not decide if it is a form of Pereira or Texeira. Jose da Costa filho 
>>> de Thome da Costa,de Barbara ???; com Josepha Thereza filha Pai nam, de 
>>> Maria da Ponte. Jose is my 6th ggrandfather and the record is his first 
>>> marriage.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751_item1/P61.html
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Paul G.
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Surname of the grooms mother

[Paul]

Hi JR,

I am (and *was)* working in those areas. I'm researching my paternal 
grandmother's family. They came from Sao Miguel and the only concelhos that 
I have not found a family member in are Lagoa & Ponta Delgada.

Paul G.

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 1:08:02 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> It's Joze da Costa filho de Barbara Theyxeyra e Thome da Costa com Jozepha 
> Thereza do Nascimento filha de Pais nam sabido (father unknown) e de Maria 
> da Ponte todos naturais desta Villa (RGE)
>
> What were the ancestors before theses? I thought you were working in Faial 
> da Terra and Povoacao.
>
> JR
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 12:56:05 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
>>
>> What is the surname of the grooms mother? Record is on the right page. I 
>> can not decide if it is a form of Pereira or Texeira. Jose da Costa filho 
>> de Thome da Costa,de Barbara ???; com Josepha Thereza filha Pai nam, de 
>> Maria da Ponte. Jose is my 6th ggrandfather and the record is his first 
>> marriage.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751_item1/P61.html
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul G.
>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Surname of the grooms mother

[Paul]

What is the surname of the grooms mother? Record is on the right page. I 
can not decide if it is a form of Pereira or Texeira. Jose da Costa filho 
de Thome da Costa,de Barbara ???; com Josepha Thereza filha Pai nam, de 
Maria da Ponte. Jose is my 6th ggrandfather and the record is his first 
marriage.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751_item1/P61.html

Thanks,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Antonia Vicencia (Roza) of Estrella (?), Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel

[Paul]

I am having a hard time finding the baptismo record for Antonia Vicencia 
who happens to be my 5th great grandmother. According to her casamentos her 
parents are Jose da Costa of Nordeste and Francisca (da Costa) of 
Estrella(?). Does the marriage record list where she was baptized? If so, I 
do not see it. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1768-1784/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1768-1784_item1/P163.html
 
(record on left page)

Thanks,

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Silva/da Silva

[Paul]

His parents are Manuel Bernardo Silva/da Silva and Maria J. (née de Medeiros) 
Silva/da Silva.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Silva/da Silva

[Paul]

I am in need of the vast knowledge of the group. I have a great uncle, 
Francisco Silva/da Silva b: 1904/1905. Other than Sao Miguel I have no idea 
where he was born/baptized. All of his siblings were born in Lomba do Loução, 
Povoacao (those born before they immigrated) with a sister's death in February, 
1906 (age 6). The U.S. 1910 Census lists Francisco's age as 7 and his immediate 
sibling, Manuel at 8. I found Manuel's baptismo record with the date of January 
1903. Prior to that a sister Maria 1900-1906. The passenger manifest for the 
Suveric lists their ages as 3 for Manuel, Francisco-2. Hopefully someone may 
have him and his family in their tree, or could suggest where to look.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site

[Paul]

Is anyone else having problems with the CCA site? I can occasionally access 
it, but after a bit of time it stops working usually with a message saying 
the server timed out. then it takes a couple of hours before I can access 
it again. Is there another way, beside the tombo.pt to access these records?

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Child's given name

[Paul]

Margaret, your note about the father's surname made me go back and check 
the other seven baptismo records. Sure enough his surname *is* Tabicos.

Paul G.

On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 1:38:25 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> Felisberto, a happy name.
>
> JR
>
> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 1:25:20 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
>>
>> I hope I DO NOT get snowed in while at work. Anyway here is my request, I 
>> am trying to figure out the child's given name. The parents are Manuel 
>> Furtado Tabias and Anna de Resendes (my 4th great grandparents).
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1827-1840/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1827-1840_item1/P15.html
>>  
>> (top of left page)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul G.
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Child's given name

[Paul]

I hope I DO NOT get snowed in while at work. Anyway here is my request, I 
am trying to figure out the child's given name. The parents are Manuel 
Furtado Tabias and Anna de Resendes (my 4th great grandparents).

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1827-1840/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1827-1840_item1/P15.html
 
(top of left page)

Thanks,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Familias Antigas de Povoacao

[Paul]

@Cheri, I understand the book has many errors and will do as much verifying 
as I can from Virginia.

John, would you be so kind and check if the book has the marriage of Manoel 
Alveres Figueira (Bagango) & Izabel da Costa, and pass along the 
information. I believe they were married between 1700-1708 (when their 
first child was born in Mae de Deus).

Thanks,
Paul G.

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 8:20:57 PM UTC-5, John Raposo wrote:
>
> I have a copy.
>
> JMR
>
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2016 5:33 PM, Paul  > wrote:
>
>
> Does anybody have a copy/link for Familias Antigas de Povoacao?
>
> Paul G.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Familias Antigas de Povoacao

[Paul]

Does anybody have a copy/link for Familias Antigas de Povoacao?

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Manoel Alveres Figueira of Sao Miguel

[Paul]

Hello All:

For the past few weeks I have been trying to find all the marriages of my 
6X grandfather Manoel Alveres Figueira (Bagango), I know he has been 
married at least three times.

His last marriage (that I know of) was to Josefa Alfonsa in June 
1752 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766_item1/P273.html
 
(left page). This record lists him a the widower of Luzia Cabral.

Manoel and Luzia were married on 13 Mar 
1726 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766_item1/P81.html
 
(left page). Here is the widower of Izabel da Costa.

Manoel & Izabel's marriage is the one that I cannot find. I have searched 
the casamentos records for all of Povoacao, Nordeste, Vila Franca do Campo, 
and most of Ribeira Grande for the years of 1700 - 1708. I believe that I 
found Izabel's 
obito 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-O-1687-1745/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-O-1687-1745_item1/P98.html
 
(bottom right & top left of next page).

Any assistance/suggestions on where to look are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the bride's father

[Paul]

This time I need Marianna Ferreira (bride) fathers name. I see is Marianna 
Ferreira, filha Far(ricisco) , de Margarida Ferriera. Record is on the 
right.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766_item1/P195.html

Thanks,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Brides mother surname

[Paul]

I am trying to figure out the bride Thereza Ferreira mothers surname. Every 
time I look at it I see a different surname. Record is on the right. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766_item1/P95.html

Thanks,

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Child's name for Antonio Furtado & Thereza Ferreira of Mae de Deus

[Paul]

All I need is the child's given name. Top left record.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1719-1738/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1719-1738_item1/P210.html

Thanks,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of great-uncle from Faial da Terra

[Paul]

Hello group:

I need some assistance figuring out my 6th great-uncle's given name. His 
DOB is 30 Jul 1739 Faial da Terra. Pai is Joao Rapozo from Faial da Terra, 
Mai is Josefa from Sao Jorge, Nordeste

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1725-1740_item1/P127.html
 
lower left record.

Thanks,
Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maneol Alvres viúvo Izabel da Costa?

[Paul]

Hey JR,

I emailed you the info I have on Manoel & Izabel's children. Shortly there 
after I believe I found their marriage record in Sao Jorge, Nordeste.

Thanks for the help.

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Achada marriage record for Izabel da Costa

[Paul]

I hope someone on this list has better software to clear up the record 
below. The top record I am hoping is my 6-7 g grandparents marriage record. 
It is dark and there are quite a few ink splotches. I see the date of 15 
Jun 1698. I cannot see the grooms name, nor his mother's name. His fathers 
name looks to be Antonio de Aruda. I can see Izabel da Costa and her mother 
Anna da Costa but only her father's surname Oliveira

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P25.html

Thanks,

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maneol Alvres viúvo Izabel da Costa?

[Paul]

I have found the baptism record for Joaquim 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1705-1719/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1705-1719_item1/P165.html
 
(lower left), and the obito for Izabel da 
Costa 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-O-1687-1745/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-O-1687-1745_item1/P98.html
 
(bottom right, then top of next page). But I have not been able to locate a 
baptismo record for Barbara (I'll keep looking), nor a marriage record in 
Mae de Deus or Faial for Manoel Alvres & Izabel da Costa.

Paul G.

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 12:31:06 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> It says he was disobligated and received his quaresma in the past year of 
> 1725. This is a common format in that period. Manuel Alvares Bagango or 
> Baganza married three times. I would look for some children for all these 
> marriages to ensure this Manoel is the same person. He appears to have 
> married three times over 50 year period, and though not unheard of, it is 
> certainly uncommon. Look first through baptisms to find children of Isabel 
> da Costa to determine where she is from. If she is from Povoacao and you 
> have already searched, then you are out of luck, as there are no more 
> marriages before 1707 in Povoacao. If Isabel Costa is from Faial da Terra, 
> Maia, or Porto Formoso, then you have some more years to search. My records 
> indicate Joaquim Alvares and his sister Barbara Costa were born in 
> Povoacao, sometime between 1716 and 1726, or thereabouts.
>
> JR
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 12:01:00 PM UTC-5, Sandra Perez wrote:
>>
>> Paul, I see Mae de Deus after she is mentioned.  I also see 25, however, 
>> I cannot tell what it is in reference to. I would check the obits again 
>> starting with March 1736 and work backwards.  You could also look for the 
>> first marriage.
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Paul  wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to find the parents of my 5-6 X g-grandfather Manoel Alvres. 
>>> Below is the link to his 2nd(?) marriage to Luzia Cabral (record on the 
>>> left). Where it lists his name I see Maneol Alvres viúvo Izabel da Costa, 
>>> and before Luzia's name appears to be 25 (vinte sinco). Would this mean 
>>> Izabel died in 1725? Since Manoel & Luzia were married in 1726. Does the 
>>> record state where Izabel died? I have searched the obitos for Mae de Deus 
>>> from 1720-1726 without success, but I will search the other villages of 
>>> Povoacao.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766_item1/P81.html
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Paul G.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Maneol Alvres viúvo Izabel da Costa?

[Paul]

Trying to find the parents of my 5-6 X g-grandfather Manoel Alvres. Below 
is the link to his 2nd(?) marriage to Luzia Cabral (record on the left). 
Where it lists his name I see Maneol Alvres viúvo Izabel da Costa, and 
before Luzia's name appears to be 25 (vinte sinco). Would this mean Izabel 
died in 1725? Since Manoel & Luzia were married in 1726. Does the record 
state where Izabel died? I have searched the obitos for Mae de Deus from 
1720-1726 without success, but I will search the other villages of Povoacao.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1712-1766_item1/P81.html

Thanks,

Paul G.

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