Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale (through Dec. 26th)

[Nancy Couto]

Dear Bill Ricardo, 

Thanks for including your Y-DNA haplogroup. I checked my brother’s matches and 
it appears you match him at 67 markers with a distance of 6. According to 
FTDNA’s estimate, there is a good chance we could have a common ancestor within 
12 generations. My brother’s name is Edward Couto Jr., and I manage his 
account. 

You don’t appear to be a match for either my brother or me on Family Finder. 

I will email you privately.

Nancy Couto



> On Dec 25, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Bill Ricardo  wrote:
> 
> Merry Christmas!
> 
> I know this may be a bit outside of the parameters of your regular purview, 
> but I am hoping y'all can provide some valuable guidance.  
> 
> I have thus far submitted DNA tests to both ancestry.com 
>  and FamilyTreeDNA.com and I have obtained further YDNA 
> and MtDNA results (haplogroups G-M201 and K1a4a, respectively) from the 
> latter.  I have further shared data with MyHeritage.com and GEDMatch.  Up 
> until now I have used ancestry.com  as my primary tree 
> building platform but I discovered a few months ago that the 1,000 or so 
> photos I had uploaded there last year at this time had disappeared from the 
> various family member profiles and they, ancestry.com , 
>  were initially unable to explain why.  Since that first revelation, they 
> have responded to me via email for additional data from me about my tree, 
> such as sending them screen shots and the like.  Frankly, I don't wish to 
> commit to that much time to reconstruct the info I had loaded to the site 
> over what easily took me dozens of hours to generate.  My thought now is that 
> I should cancel my subscription with ancestry.com  and 
> rebuild my extended tree with My Heritage.
> 
> My question is can My Heritage.com provide the same or comparable level of 
> info that I was getting from ancestry.com  if I 
> subscribe to their "Complete" service level?
> 
> Any assistance/recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Obrigado/Mahalo/Thanks,
> Bill Ricardo
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:25 PM Cheri Mello  > wrote:
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
> 
> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale has begun and will run though 
> Thursday, December 26th, until 11:59 PST. 
> 
> At a glance, the prices appear to be the same as the Black Friday through 
> Cyber Monday sale. I'm waiting for a nice chart (like last time) to post the 
> prices.
> 
> Any questions, feel free to ask.
> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale (through Dec. 26th)

[Gordon soares]

Hi Bill:

I know what you mean about Ancestry.com . I have the same 
problem getting info off their site since I cancelled them. I use Family tree 
maker (I have a Mac and can’t use MyHeritage without a lot of goofing around on 
the Mac). Nonetheless,I have found by looking at both MyHeritage as well as FTM 
(and a couple of others) that they seem to have the same data construction as 
Ancestry. However, every time you go to get information such as a “suggestion 
leaf” from Ancestry you get their page to sign up. You have to be a bit cagey 
but I have found ways to get around most of that. I do stay synched with 
Ancestry but don’t know fi that can be done with MyHeritage. I stay synched 
because sometimes it is easier to maneuver in my tree there so UI input my data 
then synch to FTM. Works fine. Hope my experiences help you to decide to leave 
Ancestry.  
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale (through Dec. 26th)

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Bill,

I am going to start this in its own thread. It's off topic and many people
delete this thread as some don't wish to participate.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 10:36 AM Bill Ricardo  wrote:

> Merry Christmas!
>
> I know this may be a bit outside of the parameters of your regular
> purview, but I am hoping y'all can provide some valuable guidance.
>
> I have thus far submitted DNA tests to both ancestry.com and
> FamilyTreeDNA.com and I have obtained further YDNA and MtDNA results
> (haplogroups G-M201 and K1a4a, respectively) from the latter.  I have
> further shared data with MyHeritage.com and GEDMatch.  Up until now I have
> used ancestry.com as my primary tree building platform but I discovered a
> few months ago that the 1,000 or so photos I had uploaded there last year
> at this time had disappeared from the various family member profiles and
> they, ancestry.com,  were initially unable to explain why.  Since that
> first revelation, they have responded to me via email for additional data
> from me about my tree, such as sending them screen shots and the like.
> Frankly, I don't wish to commit to that much time to reconstruct the info I
> had loaded to the site over what easily took me dozens of hours to
> generate.  My thought now is that I should cancel my subscription with
> ancestry.com and rebuild my extended tree with My Heritage.
>
> My question is can My Heritage.com provide the same or comparable level of
> info that I was getting from ancestry.com if I subscribe to their
> "Complete" service level?
>
> Any assistance/recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Obrigado/Mahalo/Thanks,
> Bill Ricardo
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:25 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
>>
>> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale has begun and will run though
>> Thursday, December 26th, until 11:59 PST.
>>
>> At a glance, the prices appear to be the same as the Black Friday through
>> Cyber Monday sale. I'm waiting for a nice chart (like last time) to post
>> the prices.
>>
>> Any questions, feel free to ask.
>> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale (through Dec. 26th)

[Bill Ricardo]

Merry Christmas!

I know this may be a bit outside of the parameters of your regular purview,
but I am hoping y'all can provide some valuable guidance.

I have thus far submitted DNA tests to both ancestry.com and
FamilyTreeDNA.com and I have obtained further YDNA and MtDNA results
(haplogroups G-M201 and K1a4a, respectively) from the latter.  I have
further shared data with MyHeritage.com and GEDMatch.  Up until now I have
used ancestry.com as my primary tree building platform but I discovered a
few months ago that the 1,000 or so photos I had uploaded there last year
at this time had disappeared from the various family member profiles and
they, ancestry.com,  were initially unable to explain why.  Since that
first revelation, they have responded to me via email for additional data
from me about my tree, such as sending them screen shots and the like.
Frankly, I don't wish to commit to that much time to reconstruct the info I
had loaded to the site over what easily took me dozens of hours to
generate.  My thought now is that I should cancel my subscription with
ancestry.com and rebuild my extended tree with My Heritage.

My question is can My Heritage.com provide the same or comparable level of
info that I was getting from ancestry.com if I subscribe to their
"Complete" service level?

Any assistance/recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Obrigado/Mahalo/Thanks,
Bill Ricardo



On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:25 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
>
> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale has begun and will run though
> Thursday, December 26th, until 11:59 PST.
>
> At a glance, the prices appear to be the same as the Black Friday through
> Cyber Monday sale. I'm waiting for a nice chart (like last time) to post
> the prices.
>
> Any questions, feel free to ask.
> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale (through Dec. 26th)

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale has begun and will run though
Thursday, December 26th, until 11:59 PST.

At a glance, the prices appear to be the same as the Black Friday through
Cyber Monday sale. I'm waiting for a nice chart (like last time) to post
the prices.

Any questions, feel free to ask.
Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree And Portuguese Ancestry ..

[Rob Whaite]

Hi Sonya Will send you an email Regards Rob

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 3:52:28 AM UTC+10:30, Sonya Thomas wrote:
>
>
> Sorry to hijack this thread.
>
> Rob, do you have an ancestor from the Azores that came to South Australia?
>
> I have not been able to find much information about arrivals into South 
> Australia from the Azores. My ancestor arrived about 1873, and we do not 
> know what area of the Azores he was from.
>
> Thanks,
> Sonya.
>
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2019, Rob Whaite > 
> wrote:
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>> Hi Anthony.Did he come to South Australia? If so I may be able to help 
>> you. Regards Rob
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree And Portuguese Ancestry ..

[Sonya Thomas]

Sorry to hijack this thread.

Rob, do you have an ancestor from the Azores that came to South Australia?

I have not been able to find much information about arrivals into South
Australia from the Azores. My ancestor arrived about 1873, and we do not
know what area of the Azores he was from.

Thanks,
Sonya.

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019, Rob Whaite  wrote:

> Hi Anthony.Did he come to South Australia? If so I may be able to help
> you. Regards Rob
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree And Portuguese Ancestry ..

[Rob Whaite]

I guess you have looked at ancestry.com?

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019, Anthony Silver <
thecoloursilver...@gmail.com> wrote:

> South Australia ???
>
> ha ha ha .. not that I know of ..
>
> but hey, anything is possible in this regard ..
>
>
> On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 12:14:33 PM UTC+11, Anthony Silver wrote:
>>
>> hello, i'm tracing ancestry, back to Portugal.
>>
>> the info I have of one particular person is quite limited.
>>
>> does anyone have any suggestions or ideas as to where I can find info
>> online ???
>>
>> one resource I have looked at is marinersandships.com.au
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree And Portuguese Ancestry ..

[Rob Whaite]

Hi Anthony.Did he come to South Australia? If so I may be able to help you. 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree And Portuguese Ancestry ..

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Anthony,

You need to give us a name, date (or range), and a place. Otherwise, we
don't know where to point you. If you are looking in mainland proper, this
isn't the list. We are researching the Azores islands.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 5:14 PM Anthony Silver 
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> hello, i'm tracing ancestry, back to Portugal.
>
> the info I have of one particular person is quite limited.
>
> does anyone have any suggestions or ideas as to where I can find info
> online ???
>
> one resource I have looked at is marinersandships.com.au
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree And Portuguese Ancestry ..

[Anthony Silver]

hello, i'm tracing ancestry, back to Portugal. 

the info I have of one particular person is quite limited.

does anyone have any suggestions or ideas as to where I can find info 
online ??? 

one resource I have looked at is marinersandships.com.au 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's (American) Thanksgiving Sale (through Nov. 28)

[Gayle Wood]

Yes, you order thru Amazon. I just ordered mine, be delivered tomorrow.

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 3:08 PM E. Sharp  wrote:

> Do I do that $59 plus free prime shipping through Amazon?  I already did
> my husband’s DNA on FTDNA .. he is not Portuguese so would like to see
> Ancestry results also.
>
> “E”
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 1, 2019, at 12:45 PM, C L  wrote:
>
> Ancestry is also starting their holiday sale as well!! $59 for a DNA kit.
> And if you are an Amazon prime member, it's free one day shipping.  :)
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 1:01 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
>>
>> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) has announced a sale for the month of November,
>> in honor of American Thanksgiving. NOTE: The sale ends on American
>> Thanksgiving, on Thursday, November 28th at 11:59 pm Pacific Time (or maybe
>> Central Time. Just order before then and we won't have any problems)!
>>
>> The sale prices are in USD. Add $12.95 S anywhere in the world
>> (includes return postage for U.S. residents).
>>
>> Family Finder $59 (regularly $79).
>> Y-DNA 37 $99 (regularly $169)
>> Y-DNA 111 $199 (regularly $359)
>> Big Y-700 $399 (regularly $649)
>> Full Mitochondrial Sequence (mtDNA) $139 (regularly $199)
>>
>> Buying 2 or more products? It's $9 off when you bundle!
>>
>> Upgrades are available for most Y-DNA levels and for mtDNA to Full
>> Mitochondrial Sequence. The list is long and if you want to know, you can
>> either email me or put the item in your Shopping Cart to see the discount.
>>
>> Just getting into DNA and don't know where to start? Purchase Family
>> Finder for $59 USD. It covers ALL your lines back about 200 years from the
>> birth of the testee. Have a specific problem? Y-DNA or mtDNA may be able to
>> help if you test the right person. Just ask one of us administrators before
>> ordering.
>>
>> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's (American) Thanksgiving Sale (through Nov. 28)

[E. Sharp]

Do I do that $59 plus free prime shipping through Amazon?  I already did my 
husband’s DNA on FTDNA .. he is not Portuguese so would like to see Ancestry 
results also.

“E”

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2019, at 12:45 PM, C L  wrote:
> 
> Ancestry is also starting their holiday sale as well!! $59 for a DNA kit. And 
> if you are an Amazon prime member, it's free one day shipping.  :)
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 1:01 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
>> 
>> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) has announced a sale for the month of November, in 
>> honor of American Thanksgiving. NOTE: The sale ends on American 
>> Thanksgiving, on Thursday, November 28th at 11:59 pm Pacific Time (or maybe 
>> Central Time. Just order before then and we won't have any problems)!
>> 
>> The sale prices are in USD. Add $12.95 S anywhere in the world (includes 
>> return postage for U.S. residents).
>> 
>> Family Finder $59 (regularly $79).
>> Y-DNA 37 $99 (regularly $169)
>> Y-DNA 111 $199 (regularly $359)
>> Big Y-700 $399 (regularly $649) 
>> Full Mitochondrial Sequence (mtDNA) $139 (regularly $199)
>> 
>> Buying 2 or more products? It's $9 off when you bundle!
>> 
>> Upgrades are available for most Y-DNA levels and for mtDNA to Full 
>> Mitochondrial Sequence. The list is long and if you want to know, you can 
>> either email me or put the item in your Shopping Cart to see the discount.
>> 
>> Just getting into DNA and don't know where to start? Purchase Family Finder 
>> for $59 USD. It covers ALL your lines back about 200 years from the birth of 
>> the testee. Have a specific problem? Y-DNA or mtDNA may be able to help if 
>> you test the right person. Just ask one of us administrators before ordering.
>> 
>> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's (American) Thanksgiving Sale (through Nov. 28)

[C L]

Ancestry is also starting their holiday sale as well!! $59 for a DNA kit.
And if you are an Amazon prime member, it's free one day shipping.  :)

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 1:01 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

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> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) has announced a sale for the month of November, in
> honor of American Thanksgiving. NOTE: The sale ends on American
> Thanksgiving, on Thursday, November 28th at 11:59 pm Pacific Time (or maybe
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> Family Finder $59 (regularly $79).
> Y-DNA 37 $99 (regularly $169)
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> Full Mitochondrial Sequence (mtDNA) $139 (regularly $199)
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's (American) Thanksgiving Sale (through Nov. 28)

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) has announced a sale for the month of November, in
honor of American Thanksgiving. NOTE: The sale ends on American
Thanksgiving, on Thursday, November 28th at 11:59 pm Pacific Time (or maybe
Central Time. Just order before then and we won't have any problems)!

The sale prices are in USD. Add $12.95 S anywhere in the world (includes
return postage for U.S. residents).

Family Finder $59 (regularly $79).
Y-DNA 37 $99 (regularly $169)
Y-DNA 111 $199 (regularly $359)
Big Y-700 $399 (regularly $649)
Full Mitochondrial Sequence (mtDNA) $139 (regularly $199)

Buying 2 or more products? It's $9 off when you bundle!

Upgrades are available for most Y-DNA levels and for mtDNA to Full
Mitochondrial Sequence. The list is long and if you want to know, you can
either email me or put the item in your Shopping Cart to see the discount.

Just getting into DNA and don't know where to start? Purchase Family Finder
for $59 USD. It covers ALL your lines back about 200 years from the birth
of the testee. Have a specific problem? Y-DNA or mtDNA may be able to help
if you test the right person. Just ask one of us administrators before
ordering.

Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[EMIL SILVEIRA]

Hi Cheri,

 I have 15 children born to Rosa Luisa de Jesus in Nossa Senhora da Graca, 
Almoxarife, Faial. Rosa was born 16 sep 1800.


Emil



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[Cheri Mello]

Must have been a typo then, because you mentioned the grandfather. Thanks
for the clarification.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 9:38 AM John Vasconcelos  wrote:

> Well, as I saiid, my grandmother had 17 births and raised a child from a
> previous relationship my GF had as one of her own.As I said, one tough lady.
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:03 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> Hi John, Guess I wasn't clear. I am interested in how many births the
>> woman had. Thanks, Cheri
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 1:43 PM John Vasconcelos 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *My Paternal Grandfather Francisco Vitorino Vasconcelos had 17 kids
>>> 1870-1896*
>>>
>>> *My Grandmother died in 1948 at age 95, one tough lady *
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:34 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
 Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your
 database? I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife.
 All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood.

 Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born
 from 1890-1913.

 Thanks, Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[MaryAnn Santos]

Hi Cheri,

My great grandmother, Rosa Vicencia Leite Barbose b. 1859-d.1946 had 14
children. The first was born in 1877 and the last in 1896.

MaryAnn

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 12:38 PM John Vasconcelos 
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> Well, as I saiid, my grandmother had 17 births and raised a child from a
> previous relationship my GF had as one of her own.As I said, one tough lady.
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:03 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Hi John, Guess I wasn't clear. I am interested in how many births the
>> woman had. Thanks, Cheri
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 1:43 PM John Vasconcelos 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *My Paternal Grandfather Francisco Vitorino Vasconcelos had 17 kids
>>> 1870-1896*
>>>
>>> *My Grandmother died in 1948 at age 95, one tough lady *
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:34 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
 Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your
 database? I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife.
 All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood.

 Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born
 from 1890-1913.

 Thanks, Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[John Vasconcelos]

Well, as I saiid, my grandmother had 17 births and raised a child from a
previous relationship my GF had as one of her own.As I said, one tough lady.

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:03 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi John, Guess I wasn't clear. I am interested in how many births the
> woman had. Thanks, Cheri
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 1:43 PM John Vasconcelos  wrote:
>
>> *My Paternal Grandfather Francisco Vitorino Vasconcelos had 17 kids
>> 1870-1896*
>>
>> *My Grandmother died in 1948 at age 95, one tough lady *
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:34 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your
>>> database? I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife.
>>> All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood.
>>>
>>> Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born
>>> from 1890-1913.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[Cheri Mello]

Hi John, Guess I wasn't clear. I am interested in how many births the woman
had. Thanks, Cheri

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 1:43 PM John Vasconcelos  wrote:

> *My Paternal Grandfather Francisco Vitorino Vasconcelos had 17 kids
> 1870-1896*
>
> *My Grandmother died in 1948 at age 95, one tough lady *
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:34 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your
>> database? I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife.
>> All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood.
>>
>> Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from
>> 1890-1913.
>>
>> Thanks, Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[nancy jean baptiste]

My great grandmother, Rosa Louisa from Pico married to Jose de Sousa Pereira 
had 12 children from 1867 to 1893. 1 died young, 2 stillborn and the rest lived 
to maturity.

Nancy Jean

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Vasconcelos 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 3:43:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

My Paternal Grandfather Francisco Vitorino Vasconcelos had 17 kids 1870-1896
My Grandmother died in 1948 at age 95, one tough lady

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mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your database? I 
prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, whether 
or not they lived to adulthood.

Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
1890-1913.

Thanks, Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[John Vasconcelos]

*My Paternal Grandfather Francisco Vitorino Vasconcelos had 17 kids
1870-1896*

*My Grandmother died in 1948 at age 95, one tough lady *

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:34 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

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> database? I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife.
> All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood.
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> Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from
> 1890-1913.
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> Thanks, Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[Bill Seidler]

For one marriage it is my GGG grandmother that had had 14 children from 
1820 to 1846 with no twins.

If "one wife" means one woman, it would be my wife's great grandmother who 
had 18 kids.  Nine from 1891 to 1904 with her first husband.  Then another 
9 with her second husband from 1906 to 1918. No twins.  I do not have all 
of these in my program so I guess I can't count them.

Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

My greatgrandparents, one wife , 16 verified kids, maybe one more! One set
of twins--first born and died before 2mos all between 1849--1871.

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> All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood.
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> Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from
> 1890-1913.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[Marilyn Thompson]

My grandmother was the oldest of 12 born 1897. Youngest sibling born 1916
One wife, one brother died at 2 months others lived to be adults


On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:39 PM 'Veronica Perry' via Azores Genealogy <
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>
> My 2nd great grandmother - 15 children  - born 1841-1863
>
>
> Veronica Perry-De Mello
> On Monday, September 23, 2019, 08:27:04 PM PDT, TERESA Phillips <
> ter...@msn.com> wrote:
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>
> Keith's grandparents - 15 kids, no twins, kids born 1908-1930
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> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Cheri Mello 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2019 7:34 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey
>
> Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your
> database? I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife.
> All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood.
>
> Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from
> 1890-1913.
>
> Thanks, Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

['Veronica Perry' via Azores Genealogy]

 
My 2nd great grandmother - 15 children  - born 1841-1863

Veronica Perry-De MelloOn Monday, September 23, 2019, 08:27:04 PM PDT, 
TERESA Phillips  wrote:  
 
 #yiv5028767578 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Keith's grandparents - 15 
kids, no twins, kids born 1908-1930From: azores@googlegroups.com 
 on behalf of Cheri Mello 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey Can you all let me know the 
largest Azorean family you have in your database? I prefer the late 1800s 
onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, whether or not they lived to 
adulthood.
Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
1890-1913.
Thanks, Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[TERESA Phillips]

Keith's grandparents - 15 kids, no twins, kids born 1908-1930

From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cheri 
Mello 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your database? I 
prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, whether 
or not they lived to adulthood.

Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
1890-1913.

Thanks, Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

19 kids from one wife,
Born 1865-1895, no twins 

(Not my ancestors but my aunt my marriage’s grandparentsin my 
database...was not sure if they needed to be my ancestors) 

Susan Vargas Murphy 

> On Sep 24, 2019, at 5:34 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your database? 
> I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, 
> whether or not they lived to adulthood.
> 
> Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
> 1890-1913.
> 
> Thanks, Cheri
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

My dads aunt and uncle had 14 kids from 1913-1933.

 

My 2nd Great Grandfather had 14 kids from his first wife from 1858-1882. 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 9:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

 

Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your database? I 
prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, whether 
or not they lived to adulthood.

 

Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
1890-1913.

 

Thanks, Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[Cheri Mello]

Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your
database? I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife.
All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood.

Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from
1890-1913.

Thanks, Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Summer Sale through Aug. 31, 2019

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross Posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Summer Sale has begun! The sale is on until Aug.
31, 2019, 11:59 pm PDT. The prices are below.

If you are just getting into DNA testing and don't know where to begin,
start with Family Finder for $59 USD (+$12.95 S - includes return postage
for U.S. residents).

If you've done Family Finder, or have a brick wall problem, you may want
one of the other tests too!

Any questions, feel free to ask! Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin
(volunteer)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Mother's Day Sale ends Monday, May 13th 11:59 pm PDT

[Cheri Mello]

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Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a sale in honor of Mother's Day in
America. This sale ends Monday, May 13 at 11:59 pm PDT.

Family Finder was $79 and is on sale for $59.
Mitochondrial DNA Full Sequence was $199 and is on sale for $149.
There's a savings too if you are ordering both for the same person.

Family Finder: Tests ALL lines of the test taker, back about 200 years
before their birth. If they were born in 1950, then they have DNA in them
back to about 1750.

Mitochondrial DNA: Tests the mother's mother's mother's line only. It is
the bottom of the pedigree chart.

If you are an existing customer and wish to add on a test of a different
type, log into your DNA page with your kit number and order from there.

If you are a new customer or are ordering for someone else who has never
tested with FTDNA, order through one of the group projects below:
Azores: ttps://t2m.io/wLGukUji 
Madeira: https://t2m.io/X2qQzwPS

Feel free to ask any questions you may have.
Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s sale extended through Sunday, April 28

[Cheri Mello]

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Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a sale in honor of the day DNA was
discovered (DNA Day). The sale ends Sunday, April 28th, 11:59 pm PDT.

If you want to add on a DNA test of a different type, log into your FTDNA
page with your kit number and towards the upper right where your name is
for the words "Add ons & upgrades" and order from there.

If you are buying a kit for someone who has never DNA tested before, order
through one of the group projects:
Azores: https://t2m.io/wLGukUji
Madeira: https://t2m.io/X2qQzwPS

Want to get into DNA testing but don't know which test to purchase? Family
Finder for $49 USD is a great way to start.

Have a specific brick wall ancestor? One of the other types of tests may be
able to help. Email with your question, we'll be glad to help.

Here is the pricing:
Standard Tests
Test Standard Price Sale Price
Y37 $ 169 $ 129
Y67 $ 268 $ 199
Y111 $ 359 $ 289
Big Y 700 $ 649 $ 449
mtFull Sequence $ 199 $ 149
Family Finder $ 79 $ 49






Bundle Pricing (additional $5 off)
Test Standard Price Sale Price
Family Finder + Y37 $ 248 $ 173
Family Finder + Y67 $ 347 $ 243
FF + mt Full Sequence $ 278 $ 193
FF + Y67+ mt Full Sequence $ 546 $ 392






Other Tests
Test Standard Price Sale Price
SNP Packs that are $119 $ 119 $ 89
SNP Packs that are $99 $ 99 $ 69






Upgrades to Big Y-700
Test Standard Price Sale Price
Y12 - Big Y 700 $ 629 $ 449
Y25 - Big Y 700 $ 599 $ 449
Y37- Big Y 700 $ 569 $ 399
Y67- Big Y 700 $ 499 $ 379
Y111- Big Y 700 $ 449 $ 349
Big Y 500 - Big Y 700 $ 249 $219

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's sale in honor of DNA Day (ends Thurs, April 25)

[Cheri Mello]

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a sale in honor of the day DNA was
discovered (DNA Day). The sale ends Thursday, April 25th, 11:59 pm PDT.

If you want to add on a DNA test of a different type, log into your FTDNA
page with your kit number and towards the upper right where your name is
for the words "Add ons & upgrades" and order from there.

If you are buying a kit for someone who has never DNA tested before, order
through one of the group projects:
Azores: https://t2m.io/wLGukUji
Madeira: https://t2m.io/X2qQzwPS

Want to get into DNA testing but don't know which test to purchase? Family
Finder for $49 USD is a great way to start.

Have a specific brick wall ancestor? One of the other types of tests may be
able to help. Email with your question, we'll be glad to help.

Here is the pricing:
Standard Tests
Test Standard Price Sale Price
Y37 $ 169 $ 129
Y67 $ 268 $ 199
Y111 $ 359 $ 289
Big Y 700 $ 649 $ 449
mtFull Sequence $ 199 $ 149
Family Finder $ 79 $ 49






Bundle Pricing (additional $5 off)
Test Standard Price Sale Price
Family Finder + Y37 $ 248 $ 173
Family Finder + Y67 $ 347 $ 243
FF + mt Full Sequence $ 278 $ 193
FF + Y67+ mt Full Sequence $ 546 $ 392






Other Tests
Test Standard Price Sale Price
SNP Packs that are $119 $ 119 $ 89
SNP Packs that are $99 $ 99 $ 69






Upgrades to Big Y-700
Test Standard Price Sale Price
Y12 - Big Y 700 $ 629 $ 449
Y25 - Big Y 700 $ 599 $ 449
Y37- Big Y 700 $ 569 $ 399
Y67- Big Y 700 $ 499 $ 379
Y111- Big Y 700 $ 449 $ 349
Big Y 500 - Big Y 700 $ 249 219

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA sale ends today, March 31st

[Cheri Mello]

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Reminder about Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) Administrator Confernce sale, ending
today, March 31, 2019 at 11:59 pm PDT.

All prices in United States Dollars (USD)

Family Finder: Regularly $79 with $30 off. Use code: GGC19FF
Y-DNA 37: Regularly $149 with $50 off. Use code: GGC19Y37
Y-DNA 67: Regularly $248 with $70 off. Use code; GGC19Y67
Y-DNA 111: Regularly $339 with $70 off. Use code: GGCY111
Big-Y 700: Regularly $649 with $200 off. Use code: GGC19BIGY
(Note: If you did BigY-500, the upgrade price is $179).
MtDNA Full Sequence: Regularly $199 with $50 off. Use code: GGC19MTFULL

And upgrades to Big Y 700 (runs much better with a fresh sample):
[image: image.png]

If you are an existing customer, log into your account, look towards the
upper right corner where your name is, and click on Add-ons and Upgrades to
select a different type of DNA testing.

If you are ordering for a relative who has never tested before, or yourself
(if you have never tested before), order through the Group Project here:
Azores: https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands
Madeira: https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=MadeiraPortugal
Cape Verde: https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=CapeVerde

Feel free to ask any questions you may have.
Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker

[leonor . bertoni]

I seem to remember someone asking about last names on FTM and some 
instructions being given. I have, accidentally, found some other usual 
information that I do not think was included at the time. If this is all 
stuff that is already well know, I apologize.

It was mentioned before that you need to put backslashes around the last 
name on names that have da, do, de so that it uses only the name after the 
da, do, de as the last name Joao da Costa, I would enter Joao da /Costa/. 
You can also put it at the end of the name to show that there isn't a last 
name, for example; Maria de Jesus, I enter Maria de Jesus // this keeps the 
whole thing as a first name. This saves me from going back and editing all 
the "de something" names.
It does not matter where the name is, if you put the backslashes around it, 
it automatically becomes a last name, this is useful if there is a known 
"apelido". For example; Joao Soares Manteiga, I know that Manteiga was an 
apelido but sometimes it is used as a last name by some of his relatives. I 
enter it as Joao /Soares/ Manteiga. This will sort the name by Soares not 
by Manteiga, but Manteiga will still show. 
I have had a situation where I uploaded my FTM tree to Ancestry and all my 
ancestors come up as "living" because there isn't a "deceased" option on 
FTM. I now just enter "unknown" in the death field. This marks them all 
deceased on Ancestry.


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale through March 31, 2019

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)

I went to Family Tree DNA's Administrator conference in Houston, Texas,
this past weekend. I will posting a few summaries throughout this week
about what took place.

Typically, this conference is held in November, and typically, they start
the Holiday sale then or a couple of weeks after. The conference had to be
moved to March and the holidays are definitely NOT around the corner, but
they did a mini sale anyways. It is good for the following products only,
though March 31, 2019 at 11:59 pm PDT.

All prices in United States Dollars (USD)

Family Finder: Regularly $79 with $30 off. Use code: GGC19FF
Y-DNA 37: Regularly $149 with $50 off. Use code: GGC19Y37
Y-DNA 67: Regularly $248 with $70 off. Use code; GGC19Y67
Y-DNA 111: Regularly $339 with $70 off. Use code: GGCY111
Big-Y 700: Regularly $649 with $200 off. Use code: GGC19BIGY
(Note: If you did BigY-500, the upgrade price is $179).
MtDNA Full Sequence: Regularly $199 with $50 off. Use code: GGC19MTFULL

If you are an existing customer, log into your account, look towards the
upper right corner where your name is, and click on Add-ons and Upgrades to
select a different type of DNA testing.

If you are ordering for a relative who has never tested before, or yourself
(if you have never tested before), order through the Group Project here:
Azores: https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands
Madeira: https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=MadeiraPortugal
Cape Verde: https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=CapeVerde

Feel free to ask any questions you may have.
Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's St. Patrick's Day sale ending March 17 (no need to be Irish)

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)

Today is the last day to get $20 USD off of Family Finder at Family Tree
DNA (regularly $79 USD and on sale for $59 USD. Add $12.95 S to each kit).

For a NEW customer (you have never tested or you are testing someone who
has never tested with FTDNA) order here:

Azores: https://t2m.io/wLGukUji
Madeira: https://t2m.io/X2qQzwPS

If you are an EXISTING FTDNA customer, log into your page with your kit
number and code, and order that way.

The past 4 or so years, FTDNA has also had a DNA sale in honor of DNA Day -
the discovery of DNA. This year, DNA Day is April 25th, so they *could*
have a small sale around that weekend. Just because they have in the past
does not mean that they will this year. Also, I have no advance knowledge
of what types of DNA tests they will put on sale.

Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi Everyone:  I am estimating that Manoel was born 1678 - 1695 in SM-VFDC.
Bartholomeu is my ancestor # 1724, Maria de Sousa is my ancestor # 1725.
Does anyone have Iria's birth info?
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Terri Santos 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello


  Here's Iria's death record if you didn't already have it.


  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P57.html

  On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-5, Terri Santos wrote:
Hi Fernando, I descend from this line as well. My My ancestor Manuel de 
Sousa Pimentel is also a son of Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria de Sousa. I don’t 
have his birth year as well but I’m guessing it is circa 1700 or earlier.I 
looked at your chart and basically have all the same info you have. If there is 
anything you need from my end, I would love to help. 
Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Shirley Allegre]

I am related to Francisco and Iria.  Francisco's father is my 1724 
Bartholomeu Barbosa X 1725 Maria de Sousa.
I have a daughter, Marianna de Mello (born ?? 7 Apr 1725)   But I can't get 
on the baptisms for SM-VFDC.

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Cheri, no problem, I’m sure I have a few duplicates on my tree as well. You 
mentioned you were related to Francisco’s brother. His brother Manuel is 
also an ancestor of mine, who is the brother in your family?


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

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I didn’t have Iria’s death record, thanks! I also descend from Manuel Sousa, it 
would be great to compare notes for that couple as well. I’ll try to post 
something tomorrow.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Terri Santos]

Here's Iria's death record if you didn't already have it.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P57.html

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-5, Terri Santos wrote:
>
> Hi Fernando, I descend from this line as well. My My ancestor Manuel de 
> Sousa Pimentel is also a son of Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria de Sousa. I 
> don’t have his birth year as well but I’m guessing it is circa 1700 or 
> earlier.I looked at your chart and basically have all the same info you 
> have. If there is anything you need from my end, I would love to help. 
> Terri Santos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Terri Santos]

Hi Fernando, I descend from this line as well. My My ancestor Manuel de Sousa 
Pimentel is also a son of Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria de Sousa. I don’t have 
his birth year as well but I’m guessing it is circa 1700 or earlier.I looked at 
your chart and basically have all the same info you have. If there is anything 
you need from my end, I would love to help. 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[JR]

Have to make another correction after comparing my notes to another and 
rechecking the original. Joao Nunes is Antao Nunes. There is an @symbol 
followed by tão.

JR


On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 10:58:51 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> Also, Joao Nunes was married to *Jeronima* Teixeira. The priest attempted 
> to correct the name but left impression of F.
>
> JR
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 10:53:48 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>>
>> Bartolomeu Barbosa married a second time to Maria Rodrigues in VFSM, June 
>> 12- 1719.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P94.html
>>
>> VFSM, page 91, bottom record
>>
>> This marriage does not mention that Bartolomeu Barbosa is viuvo de Maria 
>> de Sousa, however the only Bartolomeu Barbosa that died in Vila Franca in 
>> that time period says he left his wife Maria Rodrigues, which proves he 
>> married twice.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 5:15:25 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Fernando,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the chart. I will print it out and figure out which 
>>> Bartholomeu that I've merged to goof it all up. Glad you are straightening 
>>> me out.  Cheri
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 12:44 PM  wrote:
>>>
 Ok here is what I have for Bartholomeu 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[JR]

Also, Joao Nunes was married to *Jeronima* Teixeira. The priest attempted 
to correct the name but left impression of F.

JR

On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 10:53:48 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> Bartolomeu Barbosa married a second time to Maria Rodrigues in VFSM, June 
> 12- 1719.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P94.html
>
> VFSM, page 91, bottom record
>
> This marriage does not mention that Bartolomeu Barbosa is viuvo de Maria 
> de Sousa, however the only Bartolomeu Barbosa that died in Vila Franca in 
> that time period says he left his wife Maria Rodrigues, which proves he 
> married twice.
>
> JR
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 5:15:25 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Fernando,
>>
>> Thanks for the chart. I will print it out and figure out which 
>> Bartholomeu that I've merged to goof it all up. Glad you are straightening 
>> me out.  Cheri
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 12:44 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Ok here is what I have for Bartholomeu 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[JR]

Bartolomeu Barbosa married a second time to Maria Rodrigues in VFSM, June 
12- 1719.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P94.html

VFSM, page 91, bottom record

This marriage does not mention that Bartolomeu Barbosa is viuvo de Maria de 
Sousa, however the only Bartolomeu Barbosa that died in Vila Franca in that 
time period says he left his wife Maria Rodrigues, which proves he married 
twice.

JR

On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 5:15:25 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Fernando,
>
> Thanks for the chart. I will print it out and figure out which Bartholomeu 
> that I've merged to goof it all up. Glad you are straightening me out.  
> Cheri
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 12:44 PM > 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok here is what I have for Bartholomeu 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

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Cheri, no problem, I’m sure I have a few duplicates on my tree as well. You 
mentioned you were related to Francisco’s brother. His brother Manuel is also 
an ancestor of mine, who is the brother in your family?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Cheri Mello]

Fernando,

Thanks for the chart. I will print it out and figure out which Bartholomeu
that I've merged to goof it all up. Glad you are straightening me out.
Cheri
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On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 12:44 PM  wrote:

> Ok here is what I have for Bartholomeu
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Cheri Mello]

Shirley A,

Francisco & Iria marry in 1708 and have Marianna in 1723. That's 15 years
after marriage. Not sure that I follow you.
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On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 2:10 PM Shirley Allegre 
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> That would put them married 47 years.  WOW
> Shirley in CA
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>
>
> I found Marianna’s birth record. She was born on 7 Apr 1725. I just didn’t
> go back far enough so a big thanks for her parents marriage record. The
> records for Francisco and Iria births are not available. So I went on to
> Bartholomeu Barbosa and Maria Sousa and I found one record so far for
> their
> marriage: 30 Mar 1678. Does anyone have another record? In the meantime
> I’ll
> keep searching.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Shirley Allegre]

That would put them married 47 years.  WOW
Shirley in CA
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I found Marianna’s birth record. She was born on 7 Apr 1725. I just didn’t 
go back far enough so a big thanks for her parents marriage record. The 
records for Francisco and Iria births are not available. So I went on to 
Bartholomeu Barbosa and Maria Sousa and I found one record so far for their 
marriage: 30 Mar 1678. Does anyone have another record? In the meantime I’ll 
keep searching.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

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Ok here is what I have for Bartholomeu 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, Bartolomeu Barbosa & Maria de Sousa married 30 Mar 1678, but I have a
Francisco b. 18 Feb 1663 (Bartholomeu would be 5 which is impossible). I've
merged the wrong people together or I have made a really big typo on the
year. On Maria de Sousa, I have her as both Maria de Sousa and Maria de
Sousa Lima with a note saying Canto has her as Maria de Lima.

This is the screwed up work that I have, but it's gotta be wrong. I think
part of this came from Rodrigo Rodrigues' work as well.


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On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 7:40 PM  wrote:

> I found Marianna’s birth record. She was born on 7 Apr 1725. I just didn’t
> go back far enough so a big thanks for her parents marriage record. The
> records for Francisco and Iria births are not available. So I went on to
> Bartholomeu Barbosa and Maria Sousa and I found one record so far for their
> marriage: 30 Mar 1678. Does anyone have another record? In the meantime
> I’ll keep searching.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

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I found Marianna’s birth record. She was born on 7 Apr 1725. I just didn’t go 
back far enough so a big thanks for her parents marriage record. The records 
for Francisco and Iria births are not available. So I went on to Bartholomeu 
Barbosa and Maria Sousa and I found one record so far for their marriage: 30 
Mar 1678. Does anyone have another record? In the meantime I’ll keep searching.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Shirley Allegre]

Fernando:
I have a marriage on 17 June 1708, in Sao Miguel Archango church in Villa 
Franca do Campo (SM-VFDC), for Francisco de Sousa Vieira X Iria de Mello.
Francisco is the son of my 1724 Bartholomeu Barbosa X my 1725 Maria de 
Sousa.  Iria is the daughter of Manoel Correa Argueiro X Maria Cabral.

I have Iria & Francisco from SM-VFDC.
I will now look for kids for Francisco X Iria, in SM-VFDC.
Shirley in CA
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I’m searching for information on Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello and 
their daughter Marianna do Corpo Santo de Mello. Marianna married Joao da 
Costa on May 18, 1755 in Vila Franca, Sao Miguel (Matriz).  On her marriage 
records it says she is from (or baptized in?) Matriz, but I can’t find her 
birth record. Her husband Joao was born in 1735, so I was loooking around 
that date. I also searched for the marriage record of Francisco and Iria but 
no luck (in Matriz, but without Marianna’s birth record I can’t assume the 
parents were married there). If anyone has any information I would 
appreciate it.

Thanks Fernando

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Cheri Mello]

There could very well be 2 Bartolomeu Barbosas and 2 Maria de Sousas.

 My merging problem goes back to the 90s when I first attempted to merge
Shirley's database into mine. I was new at doing it and I merged it about 4
times. So here I am 20 some years later, still cleaning up the problem. Ugh!
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On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:24 AM  wrote:

> Ok I’ll look into that. Perhaps there are two Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria
> de Sousa marriage records during that time? One Barbosa and one pedreiro.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

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Ok I’ll look into that. Perhaps there are two Bartolomeu Barbosa and Maria de 
Sousa marriage records during that time? One Barbosa and one pedreiro. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Cheri Mello]

I have a merge error in my database. Too many of these guys floating
around. That's what I get for having Souza, Sousa. I'm still working on
standardizing names.
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On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:08 AM JR  wrote:

> I think it help if  you gather some baptisms for both Francisco's to
> ensure that a mistake was not made. It will help resolve any ambiguity, one
> way or the other.
>
> JR
>
> On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 1:59:23 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>>
>> I just checked my files and rechecked the original records and found
>> there are two Francisco de Sousa's, both recorded with same parental names;
>> that is Bartolomeu Barbosa pedreiro and Maria de Sousa. So perhaps an error
>> exists somewhere.
>>
>> Francisco de Sousa Vieira cc Iria de Melo, June 17- 1708
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P34.html
>>
>> This marriage makes no reference to 'pedreiros'; and I can't find a trace
>> of Vieira in the lineage of Bartolomeu Barbosa (pedreiro) and Maria de Sousa
>>
>> Francisco Barbosa cc Maria Ferreira de Lima, April 27- 1704.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P143.html
>>
>> It is interesting that this marriage references, the fathers on both
>> sides as being pedreiros, and that makes sense because they come from a
>> line of pedreiros.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 1:02:17 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> I called Shirley. She'll call me back after breakfast.
>>> Cheri Mello
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>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:00 AM  wrote:
>>>
 That’s great! Thanks for the marriage record. I agree the key is Iria
 as it’s not a very common name. I will search for Marianna’s with a
 Francisco regardless of last name and Iria. Yes, please let me know if you
 have this lineage in your tree, that would be awesome.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[JR]

I think it help if  you gather some baptisms for both Francisco's to ensure 
that a mistake was not made. It will help resolve any ambiguity, one way or 
the other.

JR

On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 1:59:23 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> I just checked my files and rechecked the original records and found there 
> are two Francisco de Sousa's, both recorded with same parental names; that 
> is Bartolomeu Barbosa pedreiro and Maria de Sousa. So perhaps an error 
> exists somewhere.
>
> Francisco de Sousa Vieira cc Iria de Melo, June 17- 1708
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P34.html
>
> This marriage makes no reference to 'pedreiros'; and I can't find a trace 
> of Vieira in the lineage of Bartolomeu Barbosa (pedreiro) and Maria de Sousa
>
> Francisco Barbosa cc Maria Ferreira de Lima, April 27- 1704.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P143.html
>
> It is interesting that this marriage references, the fathers on both sides 
> as being pedreiros, and that makes sense because they come from a line of 
> pedreiros.
>
> JR
>
> On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 1:02:17 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> I called Shirley. She'll call me back after breakfast.
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:00 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> That’s great! Thanks for the marriage record. I agree the key is Iria as 
>>> it’s not a very common name. I will search for Marianna’s with a Francisco 
>>> regardless of last name and Iria. Yes, please let me know if you have this 
>>> lineage in your tree, that would be awesome.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[JR]

I just checked my files and rechecked the original records and found there 
are two Francisco de Sousa's, both recorded with same parental names; that 
is Bartolomeu Barbosa pedreiro and Maria de Sousa. So perhaps an error 
exists somewhere.

Francisco de Sousa Vieira cc Iria de Melo, June 17- 1708
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P34.html

This marriage makes no reference to 'pedreiros'; and I can't find a trace 
of Vieira in the lineage of Bartolomeu Barbosa (pedreiro) and Maria de Sousa

Francisco Barbosa cc Maria Ferreira de Lima, April 27- 1704.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P143.html

It is interesting that this marriage references, the fathers on both sides 
as being pedreiros, and that makes sense because they come from a line of 
pedreiros.

JR

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> I called Shirley. She'll call me back after breakfast.
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:00 AM > 
> wrote:
>
>> That’s great! Thanks for the marriage record. I agree the key is Iria as 
>> it’s not a very common name. I will search for Marianna’s with a Francisco 
>> regardless of last name and Iria. Yes, please let me know if you have this 
>> lineage in your tree, that would be awesome.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Cheri Mello]

OK, Shirley has nothing further on your Francisco Whomever and Iria de
Mello. However, there are lots of Vila Franca researchers on the list, so
give them some time to take a look.  Cheri
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On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:01 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I called Shirley. She'll call me back after breakfast.
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:00 AM  wrote:
>
>> That’s great! Thanks for the marriage record. I agree the key is Iria as
>> it’s not a very common name. I will search for Marianna’s with a Francisco
>> regardless of last name and Iria. Yes, please let me know if you have this
>> lineage in your tree, that would be awesome.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Cheri Mello]

I called Shirley. She'll call me back after breakfast.
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On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:00 AM  wrote:

> That’s great! Thanks for the marriage record. I agree the key is Iria as
> it’s not a very common name. I will search for Marianna’s with a Francisco
> regardless of last name and Iria. Yes, please let me know if you have this
> lineage in your tree, that would be awesome.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

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That’s great! Thanks for the marriage record. I agree the key is Iria as it’s 
not a very common name. I will search for Marianna’s with a Francisco 
regardless of last name and Iria. Yes, please let me know if you have this 
lineage in your tree, that would be awesome.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Fernando,

I think you are looking for Marianna under the wrong name. Francisco
marries under the name of Francisco de Souza Vieira (top right):
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P34.html

I descend from Francisco's brother (I think. I've got a merging problem).
And Iria was a typo in my computer (which I fixed). Try looking again for
your Marianna with a father of Francisco Vieira or Francisco Vieira Sousa
or Francisco Sousa Vieira. Or better yet, a Marianna born to a Francisco
Anybody with an Iria (those "I"s can look weird). Maybe he used Francisco
Barboza at Marianna's baptism. I would think the key would be Iria.

I'm going to call my cousin Shirley Allegre and tell her to log in and read
your post. Who knows if she has more on your family.  Cheri
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On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 8:00 AM  wrote:

> I’m searching for information on Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello and
> their daughter Marianna do Corpo Santo de Mello. Marianna married Joao da
> Costa on May 18, 1755 in Vila Franca, Sao Miguel (Matriz).  On her marriage
> records it says she is from (or baptized in?) Matriz, but I can’t find her
> birth record. Her husband Joao was born in 1735, so I was loooking around
> that date. I also searched for the marriage record of Francisco and Iria
> but no luck (in Matriz, but without Marianna’s birth record I can’t assume
> the parents were married there). If anyone has any information I would
> appreciate it.
> Thanks Fernando
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello

[fpimentel4953]

I’m searching for information on Francisco da Souza and Iria de Mello and their 
daughter Marianna do Corpo Santo de Mello. Marianna married Joao da Costa on 
May 18, 1755 in Vila Franca, Sao Miguel (Matriz).  On her marriage records it 
says she is from (or baptized in?) Matriz, but I can’t find her birth record. 
Her husband Joao was born in 1735, so I was loooking around that date. I also 
searched for the marriage record of Francisco and Iria but no luck (in Matriz, 
but without Marianna’s birth record I can’t assume the parents were married 
there). If anyone has any information I would appreciate it.
Thanks Fernando 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Census Document - Pico island - What does "Fogo" mean?

[Genealogia Gomes Martins]

Yes Mary, "Fire = Fogo" is "House" in Census from Brazil and others places.

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Em sex, 11 de jan de 2019 às 18:49, Cheri Mello 
escreveu:

> It's location (city, neighborhood, village), house number, street. In the
> Azores, it's City, Street, House number (going from large to small).
> Cheri Mello
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>
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Mary Pimentel Wheeler 
> wrote:
>
>> I was able to access a census document that listed one of my ancestor's
>> and his family - nice to have and contains good info.  I can translate
>> almost everything, but there are places where they say a family lived at
>> "Fogo 321, Rua do Bagacos".  I think FOGO translated literally means fire,
>> but this appears to be a house number.  Can it also mean something like
>> house or home?   Maybe loosely translated as "hearth", meaning where the
>> family lives?
>>
>> Thanks translators!
>>
>> Mary
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Census Document - Pico island - What does "Fogo" mean?

[Cheri Mello]

It's location (city, neighborhood, village), house number, street. In the
Azores, it's City, Street, House number (going from large to small).
Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Mary Pimentel Wheeler 
wrote:

> I was able to access a census document that listed one of my ancestor's
> and his family - nice to have and contains good info.  I can translate
> almost everything, but there are places where they say a family lived at
> "Fogo 321, Rua do Bagacos".  I think FOGO translated literally means fire,
> but this appears to be a house number.  Can it also mean something like
> house or home?   Maybe loosely translated as "hearth", meaning where the
> family lives?
>
> Thanks translators!
>
> Mary
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Census Document - Pico island - What does "Fogo" mean?

[Mary Pimentel Wheeler]

I was able to access a census document that listed one of my ancestor's and 
his family - nice to have and contains good info.  I can translate almost 
everything, but there are places where they say a family lived at "Fogo 
321, Rua do Bagacos".  I think FOGO translated literally means fire, but 
this appears to be a house number.  Can it also mean something like house 
or home?   Maybe loosely translated as "hearth", meaning where the family 
lives?

Thanks translators!

Mary

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

[Cheri Mello]

Eek gads! OK, I saw Thursday when I checked (it was the middle of the week,
but I figured the employees would be filling the orders all day Friday and
then get back to "normal" on Monday). So then I just decided type Saturday
for no good reason. I sent out a correction with THURSDAY. Sorry!
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On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 7:17 AM Richard Francis Pimentel <
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> *No,** it is Thursday now that I have had two cups of coffee and am half
> awake.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2019 12:16 AM
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> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through
> Saturday, January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST
>
>
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists).
>
>
>
> Family Tree DNA extended the holiday sale through Saturday, January 3rd,
> at 11:59 p.m. PST.
>
>
>
> If you are ordering a different type of DNA test, log into that kit and
> order an upgrade.
>
>
>
> If you are new to DNA testing, order through one of the links below.
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
> If you don't have a specific genealogy problem to solve and are just
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA sale extended through THURSDAY, Jan. 3, 11:59 pm PST

[Cheri Mello]

 (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists).

I shouldn't make posts when I'm tired.

Correction: The sale ends THURSDAY. So the announcement should read:

Family Tree DNA extended the holiday sale through THURSDAY, January 3rd, at
11:59 p.m. PST.

If you are ordering a different type of DNA test, log into that kit and
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

No, it is Thursday now that I have had two cups of coffee and am half awake.

 

Rick

 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, 
January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

 

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists).

 

Family Tree DNA extended the holiday sale through Saturday, January 3rd, at 
11:59 p.m. PST.

 

If you are ordering a different type of DNA test, log into that kit and order 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

January 3rd is Friday.

 

 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, 
January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

 

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists).

 

Family Tree DNA extended the holiday sale through Saturday, January 3rd, at 
11:59 p.m. PST.

 

If you are ordering a different type of DNA test, log into that kit and order 
an upgrade.

 

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If you don't have a specific genealogy problem to solve and are just getting 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

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(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists).

Family Tree DNA extended the holiday sale through Saturday, January 3rd, at
11:59 p.m. PST.

If you are ordering a different type of DNA test, log into that kit and
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If you are new to DNA testing, order through one of the links below.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale through Dec. 31st

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Family Tree DNA has started their Holiday Sale which will run from now
until Dec. 31, at 11:59 PST.

Prices below are in USD. Add $12.95 shipping and handling. Includes return
postage back to the lab if you are a U.S. resident.

Family Finder, regularly $79, is $49. This tests ALL lines, back about 200
years from the birth of the testee. If the test taker was born in 1950,
their DNA goes back to about 1750. So if you have someone older, (born in
the 1930s or 1920s), test them first!

Y-DNA is also on sale. Y-DNA 37 (regularly $169 on sale for $99) or Y-DNA
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a man's strict paternal line: His father's father's father's line ONLY or
the top of the pedigree chart. (Men are the ones with the Y chromosome). If
you are not a man, recruit a brother, uncle, nephew, or male cousin of the
line you want to test.

MtDNA traces everyone's strict maternal line. That's the mother's mother's
mother's line ONLY, or the bottom of the pedigree chart. It's best to get
the Full Sequence test, regularly $199 on sale for $139.

If you are an existing FTDNA customer, log into your DNA page with your kit
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If you are new to DNA testing, or ordering a DNA kit for someone who has
never tested at FTDNA, order here:

Azores: https://goo.gl/dtAs4j
Madeira: https://goo.gl/JVBLJV
Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/eYWXXw

Feel free to email with any questions you may have.
Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale: Fri, Nov. 23 - Mon, Nov. 26, 2018

[Cheri Mello]

Family Tree DNA is have a sale this weekend, from Friday, November 23
through Monday, November 26, 2018.

Family Finder is now $39!!!  That's the lowest price EVER! They have
knocked $3 off of shipping and handling, so it's $9.95 (all this is USD).
It appears that the other sales prices have remained the same:

[image: image.png]

If you are an existing FTDNA customer, log into your DNA page with your kit
number and password. They will pull your sample and get to work. No
additional S charges.

If you are new to DNA testing, or ordering a DNA kit for someone who has
never tested at FTDNA, order here:

Azores: https://goo.gl/dtAs4j
Madeira: https://goo.gl/JVBLJV
Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/eYWXXw

Feel free to email with any questions you may have.
Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Summer Sale

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) has begun their summer sale that will run for one
month, through August 31st at 11:59 pm CDT (or maybe PDT - I'm not sure
which time zone they are using now).

If you have never taken a DNA test before and are overwhelmed, take the
Family Finder (FF) test. Test someone from the older generation (if your
parents are alive, test them first. If they are not alive, test one of
their siblings. Same for grandparents. If they are not alive, test their
siblings. If no one is alive, then you are the best candidate). It's also
good to test siblings and cousins. It "stacks the deck" in your favor and
we start to form a picture of a freguesia. It starts to cluster and when it
starts to cluster, more matches are made and the real fun begins!

If you have a specific problem and are wondering if a particular DNA test
can help you solve that problem, then Y-DNA or mtDNA may be an answer.
Email one of the admins, include a graphic of your tree with the problem
ancestor, and we'll make a recommendation for you.

I've copied the graphic below from Roberta Estes' blog, "DNA Explained."
Some abbreviations used:

Y## - Y-DNA with the number of markers tested. Right now, either Y-37 or
Y67 is fine. If Y111 is in your budget, go right ahead. You can always
start with less markers and upgrade at a future sale.

FF - Family Finder

FMS - Full Mitochondrial Sequence test. Tests all 16,000 base pairs of the
mtDNA molecule

MT - Mitochondrial - one of their lower level mtDNA tests where only
800-1500 base pairs were tested (if you are a previous customer, your page
may say "mtDNA" or "mtDNA Plus" as your previous mtDNA test).

Big Y500 - Includes deep SNPs (Single Nucleotide Polymorphism) testing and
500 markers. It's more anthropology oriented at this time. The theory  is
that by finding unique markers (SNP)s on the tree of mankind (haplotree)
and utilizing 500 markers, we may be able to bridge gaps where the paper
trail doesn't reach. If you are interested in this test (it's expensive),
ask one of the admins.

HOW TO ORDER:

If you are an existing customer, log into your DNA page and click the words
"Add Ons and Upgrades" towards the upper right corner:


If you are a new customer or are ordering for a relative who has never,
ever DNA tested with FTDNA before (it's a giant foam Q-tip - much easier
than saliva), order through one of the group projects here:

Azores: https://goo.gl/vTndP3

Madeira: https://goo.gl/bdPp9a

Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/xnatZn

If you have more than one ancestry, pick a project to order through and let
one of the admins know and we'll send you the instructions on how to join
the other project(s).

Sincerely, Cheri Mello (gfscherim at gmail.com), Rick Pimentel
(richard.francis.pimentel at gmail.com), Luis Beal (genealogialb at
gmail.com), Family Tree DNA Admins, volunteers (with Nancy Jean Baptiste on
vacation)


*Prices from DNA Explained blog, by Roberta Estes:*

*The Summer Sale*

Everything is on sale – literally everything. New purchases and upgrades
too.



Product bundles, already discounted, are now discounted even further during
the sale.



The sale ends on August 31st. Now is a great time to buy those kits for
your relatives and take them along to family reunions.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Maria Lima]

Cathy- I LOVE that you always document.  Thank you.  I think we found three 
connections (?)  good to hear fm you

Maria Elena 

> On Jul 21, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Maria L said, "On Ancestry I had entered names and photos and some people 
> picked up the “leaf hints...” 
> 
> Sometimes, I think they ought to change those little green leaves to red 
> herrings!
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>> Doreen, it’s true that some people do not document and that there are 
>> errors.  I found this to be true for both  Ancestry and Family search. It’s 
>> frustrating when you research and document and someone enters incorrect info 
>> in your line even when the documentation is right there as a “Source”.  
>> 
>> Yes if names are duplicates, you merge them after careful review.  Names can 
>> also be unnerved if you find it’s not the same person or family.  At times I 
>> call family search library and talk to missionaries who are there to help 
>> answer questions when you are stuck with a situation like you mentioned.  
>> Number is upper right area. 
>> 
>>   But Sometimes I have to remind myself that these names do not belong only 
>> to me but that these people might have descendants scattered in parts of the 
>> world beyond what I thought.  
>> 
>> On Ancestry i  had entered names and photos and some people picked up the 
>> “leaf hints”  and adopted the photos and ancestors.  But they were 
>> incorrect.  I contacted the person and told them how their ancestor was a 
>> different person from a different island, etc.  to my disappointment, the 
>> corrections were not made.  From that time forth, I did not enter more info 
>> on ancestry.  Actually, now my tree in Ancestry is private.   
>> 
>> I do, however, enter all my info on family search.  
>> 
>> There was a person who inserted a child who was born before the parents in 
>> one instance and I contacted them and together we tried to find his 
>> ancestor.  It took time and a call to Salt Lake  but it was corrected.  At 
>> least there’s some place to get help. 
>> 
>> I have also connected with distant cousins who entered other parts of the 
>> family.  Pretty cool!  
>> 
>> I have found duplicates and merged them and therefore added to a family  
>> line.  I document every name that I enter with the link to the source.  Yes, 
>> it is not required, I just feel it is the right thing to do after doing all 
>> the research.
>> 
>> There is a section for disagreement or questioning towards the bottom of 
>> every name.
>> 
>> Yes, I would contact the person who entered incorrect info and I would ask 
>> if they can provide document action as well.  Most people want to do it 
>> right but there will be errors.  Like someone said in another email earlier, 
>> verify everything.  If it’s wrong, write in the section why it’s wrong and 
>> provide correct source.  
>> 
>> I don’t know if this gives you another perspective.  
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Maria Elena Lima
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2018, at 1:50 PM,  
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for the insight. This is how misinformation continues to get 
>>> spread. I need new leads to trace so I will use what I can for a new 
>>> direction in my research but will need to be careful. I will verify and 
>>> document.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Rosemarie Capodicci
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:45 AM
>>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> These entries are put in by many people and if they are not really 
>>> genealogists, they just copy and paste what they find on other databases 
>>> like Ancestry.com. You have to do what you always should do and that's 
>>> verify everything!  Unless it is your ancestor and you know for sure the 
>>> correct dates and have documentation, I wouldn't do anything. Most of these 
>>> people could care less if the info is correct they just collect names and 
>>> won't respond to you. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rosemarie
>>> 
>>> rcap...@

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Maria Lima]

Doreen, it’s true that some people do not document and that there are errors.  
I found this to be true for both  Ancestry and Family search. It’s frustrating 
when you research and document and someone enters incorrect info in your line 
even when the documentation is right there as a “Source”.  

Yes if names are duplicates, you merge them after careful review.  Names can 
also be unnerved if you find it’s not the same person or family.  At times I 
call family search library and talk to missionaries who are there to help 
answer questions when you are stuck with a situation like you mentioned.  
Number is upper right area. 

  But Sometimes I have to remind myself that these names do not belong only to 
me but that these people might have descendants scattered in parts of the world 
beyond what I thought.  

On Ancestry i  had entered names and photos and some people picked up the “leaf 
hints”  and adopted the photos and ancestors.  But they were incorrect.  I 
contacted the person and told them how their ancestor was a different person 
from a different island, etc.  to my disappointment, the corrections were not 
made.  From that time forth, I did not enter more info on ancestry.  Actually, 
now my tree in Ancestry is private.   

I do, however, enter all my info on family search.  

There was a person who inserted a child who was born before the parents in one 
instance and I contacted them and together we tried to find his ancestor.  It 
took time and a call to Salt Lake  but it was corrected.  At least there’s some 
place to get help. 

I have also connected with distant cousins who entered other parts of the 
family.  Pretty cool!  

I have found duplicates and merged them and therefore added to a family  line.  
I document every name that I enter with the link to the source.  Yes, it is not 
required, I just feel it is the right thing to do after doing all the research. 
   

There is a section for disagreement or questioning towards the bottom of every 
name.

Yes, I would contact the person who entered incorrect info and I would ask if 
they can provide document action as well.  Most people want to do it right but 
there will be errors.  Like someone said in another email earlier, verify 
everything.  If it’s wrong, write in the section why it’s wrong and provide 
correct source.  

I don’t know if this gives you another perspective.  

Best wishes,

Maria Elena Lima


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2018, at 1:50 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the insight. This is how misinformation continues to get 
> spread. I need new leads to trace so I will use what I can for a new 
> direction in my research but will need to be careful. I will verify and 
> document.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Rosemarie Capodicci
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:45 AM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base
>  
> These entries are put in by many people and if they are not really 
> genealogists, they just copy and paste what they find on other databases like 
> Ancestry.com. You have to do what you always should do and that's verify 
> everything!  Unless it is your ancestor and you know for sure the correct 
> dates and have documentation, I wouldn't do anything. Most of these people 
> could care less if the info is correct they just collect names and won't 
> respond to you. 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>  
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:35 AM,  wrote:
> I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found 
> children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but 
> when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical 
> for this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their 
> reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the 
> errors
> Doreen Caetano
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Cathy Bourgeois]

If I contribute to that site, I always attach the record, but yes, a lot of the 
information is wrong or they have the same children twice with two different 
dates, etc.   But it may give you some hints to verify on your own.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 3:09 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

You are right, Cheri, no documentation is required and that is the big problem. 
People just put stuff in and if there is a 'clue' about another name to add, 
they just do it without verifying. Just be careful what you add to your tree, 
Doreen!


Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
Isn't that their "One World Family Tree?" They tried to merge all their stuff 
together. Anyone can contribute their information and anyone can correct 
information. No documentation required. I won't be submitting my stuff there. 
Rosemarie Capodicci or Gayle Machado may know more since they work (now or in 
the past) at a Family History Center (FHC). Cheri

On Jul 21, 2018 11:35 AM,  wrote:
I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found 
children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but 
when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical for 
this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their 
reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the 
errors
Doreen Caetano
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Mary Bordi]

I have seen that all the time on Ancestry. Ive looked on Family Search
because someone claimed the info was well documented but in the little
investigating I’ve done there I don’t see where it’s any better than
Ancestry. (I may be wrong!)

I hate it on Ancestry when I get a new “hint” that looks promising and then
when I look into the source it’s only someone else’s unsourced tree.

It’s great that we have the ability to look up the baptisms, weddings and
obits in the original documents from the Azores and like Doreen I have
found dates in other’s trees to be wrong. I have seen this mostly when I’m
investigating what may be a DNA link. Some of those trees are not well
sourced.

Mary

On Saturday, July 21, 2018,  wrote:

> I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found
> children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but
> when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical
> for this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their
> reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the
> errors
>
> Doreen Caetano
>
>
>
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> Windows 10
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

You are right, Cheri, no documentation is required and that is the big
problem. People just put stuff in and if there is a 'clue' about another
name to add, they just do it without verifying. Just be careful what you
add to your tree, Doreen!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Isn't that their "One World Family Tree?" They tried to merge all their
> stuff together. Anyone can contribute their information and anyone can
> correct information. No documentation required. I won't be submitting my
> stuff there. Rosemarie Capodicci or Gayle Machado may know more since they
> work (now or in the past) at a Family History Center (FHC). Cheri
>
> On Jul 21, 2018 11:35 AM,  wrote:
>
>> I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found
>> children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but
>> when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical
>> for this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their
>> reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the
>> errors
>>
>> Doreen Caetano
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[doreencaetano]

Thank you for the insight. This is how misinformation continues to get spread. 
I need new leads to trace so I will use what I can for a new direction in my 
research but will need to be careful. I will verify and document.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:45 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

These entries are put in by many people and if they are not really 
genealogists, they just copy and paste what they find on other databases like 
Ancestry.com. You have to do what you always should do and that's verify 
everything!  Unless it is your ancestor and you know for sure the correct dates 
and have documentation, I wouldn't do anything. Most of these people could care 
less if the info is correct they just collect names and won't respond to you. 


Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:35 AM,  wrote:
I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found 
children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but 
when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical for 
this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their 
reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the 
errors
Doreen Caetano
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[doreencaetano]

I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found 
children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but 
when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical for 
this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their 
reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the 
errors
Doreen Caetano

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Father's Day sale through June 18th

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a sale in honor of Father's Day in
America. Anyone, anywhere can take advantage of these prices.

Don't know where to start or just getting into DNA for genealogy?
Order Family Finder for $59 USD (+$12.95 S).

Have a specific male relative in mind and need his father's father's
father's line?
Order one of the Y-DNA tests: Y-DNA 37 for $129, Y-DNA 67 for $219, or
Y-DNA 111 for $299.

Big Y or Big 500 Y (or whatever they are renaming it) is on sale for $499.

Some bundles are on sale as well (Y-DNA with Family Finder). I also have
the code for mtDNA that was from the genealogy conference this past
weekend. I won't publicly post that since it was for conference attendees,
but will share with you in a private email.

If you are an EXISTING FTDNA customer, go to www.ftdna.com and log into
your account (or the account that you manage) and click the blue Upgrade
button in the upper right corner to add on a different type of test.

If you are NEW to FTDNA or are testing a NEW person who has not DNA tested
before, order through one of the links below.
Azores: https://goo.gl/r7TnP8
Madeira: https://goo.gl/QMJwuL
Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/7sHPVQ

Sale ends Monday, June 18th, 11:59 pm PDT.
Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker

[luiznoia]

I've been using the FTM 2005 version since it's release. I recently bought
the 2017 .

Not a Fan. A waste of $79.  Very difficult to navigate and I feel poorly
designed.

The only improvement was the ability to create a PDF that was lacking in
the 2005.

I don't want to link every tree I have to Ancestry, so they can throw a
thousand useless "hints" at me.

I'm back to using 2005 for my daily work.

Eric Edgar

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Liz Migliori  wrote:

> Sale ended yesterday Linda
> Sorry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 16, 2018, at 11:00 PM, Nancy Couto  wrote:
> >
> > Liz,
> >
> > I have Family Tree Maker, and I have not had any problems. One of the
> best features of the Software MacKiev version is that it is possible to
> link more than one family tree to Ancestry. The color coding is also a
> useful.
> >
> > Nancy
> >
> >
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker

[Liz Migliori]

Thank you. That looked like it might be a good thing

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> Liz, 
> 
> I have Family Tree Maker, and I have not had any problems. One of the best 
> features of the Software MacKiev version is that it is possible to link more 
> than one family tree to Ancestry. The color coding is also a useful.
> 
> Nancy
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker

[Liz Migliori]

Sale ended yesterday Linda
Sorry

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> 
> Liz, 
> 
> I have Family Tree Maker, and I have not had any problems. One of the best 
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> 
> Nancy
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker

[Nancy Couto]

Liz, 

I have Family Tree Maker, and I have not had any problems. One of the best 
features of the Software MacKiev version is that it is possible to link more 
than one family tree to Ancestry. The color coding is also a useful.

Nancy


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker

[linda]

Oooh! Where is the sale? 

Thanks,

:)

Linda

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker

[Liz Migliori]

Thx Cheri. I'll look
We'll have to try that restaurant !!
Lol

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> On May 16, 2018, at 7:23 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Liz, 
> As far as I remember, some had problems and some didn't.
> 
> As for a recommendation, you will have to get what you like and what appeals 
> to you. I could tell you about this great restaurant by my house, but my 
> neighbor may tell you it was lousy.
> 
> You didn't say what FTM version you had. Kathy Cardoza evaluated one of the 
> versions. It's in the archive. She probably labeled it pretty clearly, so if 
> you search for "Family Tree Maker" and see the post was by Kathy Cardoza, 
> that's the one you want.
> Good luck, Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker

[Cheri Mello]

Liz,
As far as I remember, some had problems and some didn't.

As for a recommendation, you will have to get what you like and what
appeals to you. I could tell you about this great restaurant by my house,
but my neighbor may tell you it was lousy.

You didn't say what FTM version you had. Kathy Cardoza evaluated one of the
versions. It's in the archive. She probably labeled it pretty clearly, so
if you search for "Family Tree Maker" and see the post was by Kathy
Cardoza, that's the one you want.
Good luck, Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker

[Elizabeth Migliori]

Was there a final consensus on the new Family Tree Maker?
Some were having trouble and some were not.
It's on sale 50% off and I loved the old ones.

Recommendations???
Liz

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) Valentine Sales extended through February 18th

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes)

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) extended their Valentine Day sale through Sunday,
February 18th, at 11:59pm CST. Family Finder is on sale for $59 USD. Some
bundles are on sale as well (Y-DNA with Family Finder or mtDNA with Family
Finder).

For those who missed the original email and how to order, here it is again:

With the Family Finder test, you get your matches within the FTDNA
database, your ethnicity ESTIMATES, your ancient origins, a chromosome
browser, and parental matching!

FTDNA also has projects. So we have Azores, Madeira, and Cape Verde. You
also have access to project admins who are volunteers. Many times we can
answer your question quicker than Customer Service. Also, as we pull
together the results of the project members, we are starting to patterns or
clusters form. We may be able to tell you which family clusters you are
related to.

If you have ordered a Y-DNA test or an mtDNA test, log into your FTDNA page
with your kit number and password and click the blue Upgrade button in the
upper right corner.

If you would like to test and have never ordered before (you are a
brand-new customer), use the corresponding link below to order. If you have
ancestry in multiple regions, we'll get you into the other projects as
well. Just order through one of them to start (Yes, FTDNA ships worldwide.
It's $12.95 USD for S).

New Customers order here:
Azores: https://goo.gl/Lw3XFg
Madeira: https://goo.gl/xHpcxh
Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/MyegqK

Cheri Mello, Rick Pimentel, Luis Beal, Nancy Jean Baptiste, Family Tree DNA
Admins (volunteers)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale on Family Finder, expires on February 14

[Cheri Mello]

Joanne,

I don't know that I understand your question "to see if there are matches
to genealogy that you have at home not on the Internet." I don't know what
that means.

When signing in, the screen should look like this below. Do you have some
"Remember me" thing checked in your browser? If not, clear your cookies.
You might have to Google: clear cookies chrome OR clear cookies Firefox OR
clear cookies Edge or whatever you use.
[image: Inline image 1]

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Joanne Tuscany 
wrote:

> Cheri,
> How do I check the kits that I have sent in to see if there are any
> matches to genealogy that I have at home not on the internet? I tried to
> input their Kit number and the site kept putting my number in and erasing
> the number that I inserted.
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)
>>
>> Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a sale on Family Finder (same test as
>> AncestryDNA, My Heritage, 23 and Me). It is on sale for $59 USD though
>> Wednesday, February 14th at 11:59 pm CST.
>>
>> You get your matches within the FTDNA database, your ethnicity ESTIMATES,
>> your ancient origins, a chromosome browser, and parental matching!
>>
>> FTDNA also has projects. So we have Azores, Madeira, and Cape Verde. You
>> also have access to project admins who are volunteers. Many times we can
>> answer your question quicker than Customer Service. Also, as we pull
>> together the results of the project members, we are starting to patterns or
>> clusters form. We may be able to tell you which family clusters you are
>> related to.
>>
>> If you have ordered a Y-DNA test or an mtDNA test, log into your FTDNA
>> page with your kit number and password and click the blue Upgrade button in
>> the upper right corner.
>>
>> If you would like to test and have never ordered before (you are a
>> brand-new customer), use the corresponding link below to order. If you have
>> ancestry in multiple regions, we'll get you into the other projects as
>> well. Just order through one of them to start (Yes, FTDNA ships worldwide.
>> It's $12.95 USD for S).
>>
>> New Customers order here:
>> Azores: https://goo.gl/Lw3XFg
>> Madeira: https://goo.gl/xHpcxh
>> Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/MyegqK
>>
>> Cheri Mello, Rick Pimentel, Luis Beal, Nancy Jean Baptiste, Family Tree
>> DNA Admins (volunteers)
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale on Family Finder, expires on February 14

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a sale on Family Finder (same test as
AncestryDNA, My Heritage, 23 and Me). It is on sale for $59 USD though
Wednesday, February 14th at 11:59 pm CST.

You get your matches within the FTDNA database, your ethnicity ESTIMATES,
your ancient origins, a chromosome browser, and parental matching!

FTDNA also has projects. So we have Azores, Madeira, and Cape Verde. You
also have access to project admins who are volunteers. Many times we can
answer your question quicker than Customer Service. Also, as we pull
together the results of the project members, we are starting to patterns or
clusters form. We may be able to tell you which family clusters you are
related to.

If you have ordered a Y-DNA test or an mtDNA test, log into your FTDNA page
with your kit number and password and click the blue Upgrade button in the
upper right corner.

If you would like to test and have never ordered before (you are a
brand-new customer), use the corresponding link below to order. If you have
ancestry in multiple regions, we'll get you into the other projects as
well. Just order through one of them to start (Yes, FTDNA ships worldwide.
It's $12.95 USD for S).

New Customers order here:
Azores: https://goo.gl/Lw3XFg
Madeira: https://goo.gl/xHpcxh
Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/MyegqK

Cheri Mello, Rick Pimentel, Luis Beal, Nancy Jean Baptiste, Family Tree DNA
Admins (volunteers)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches Question

[Cheri Mello]

Much better! All looks normal now. Thank you so much!!!

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:29 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Cheri, I hope this is better print.  I always have print on normal but for
> some reason unbeknownst to me it was on small.  Is this OK??
>
> "E"
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> Why is your print microscopic? I have to enlarge my browser 150% to read
>> your emails.
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches Question

["E" Sharp]

Cheri, I hope this is better print.  I always have print on normal but for
some reason unbeknownst to me it was on small.  Is this OK??

"E"

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Why is your print microscopic? I have to enlarge my browser 150% to read
> your emails.
>
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches Question

[Cheri Mello]

Why is your print microscopic? I have to enlarge my browser 150% to read
your emails.

It's all a random shuffle. Some siblings inherit more than one sibling.
It's always good to test your siblings!



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 3:56 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> If a sister does a Family Finder DNA with her brother and they match as
> siblings and on their matches they match another unknown male...the sister
> match is 117 centimorgans and the brother's match is 257
> centimorgansany relevant meaning of thisi.e. would this unknown
> male match the male line more than the female line or??
>
> "E"
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches Question

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The brother and sister inherited their DNA from the same parents but because of 
the way DNA works they did not receive the same DNA from each parent. The 
Brother may have received 55% from his father and 45% from his mother while his 
sister may have received 45% from her father and 55% from her mother. They are 
still brother and sister. Now they both take a Family Finder DNA test and the 
both get a match with Mr. Y. The brother matches him with 257 cm and the sister 
matches him with 117 cm. This is because the brother inherited more of the DNA 
that matches Mr. Y and the sister less. This is because siblings do not receive 
the same DNA and the same snips from their parents unless they are identical 
twins. 

Until  you  can identify a common ancestor you will not know whether Mr. Y 
matches the father or the mother unless you have tested enough of the family to 
have the Parental matching feature at FTDNA identify which parental line of the 
brother and sister he is related to.  Just because he matches the brother with 
257 cm does not mean it is the fathers line he could have inherited that from 
the mother.

 

Rick

Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
Azores DNA Project

  

Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators

All unpaid volunteers 

Cheri Mello –  <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> gfsche...@gmail.com 

Rick Pimentel – richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com 

 

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of "E" 
Sharp
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 6:57 PM
To: azores
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches Question

 

If a sister does a Family Finder DNA with her brother and they match as 
siblings and on their matches they match another unknown male...the sister 
match is 117 centimorgans and the brother's match is 257 centimorgansany 
relevant meaning of thisi.e. would this unknown male match the male line 
more than the female line or??

 

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Matches Question

["E" Sharp]

If a sister does a Family Finder DNA with her brother and they match as
siblings and on their matches they match another unknown male...the sister
match is 117 centimorgans and the brother's match is 257
centimorgansany relevant meaning of thisi.e. would this unknown
male match the male line more than the female line or??

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Reduced Shipping ends Friday (but don't wait that late)!!

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes)

Family Tree DNA has their Holiday Sale going full steam ahead!

Through this Friday, December 15th, at 11:59 pm, they have reduced their
shipping. So if you want to take advantage of that pricing you will need to
order before the deadline.

And if you need a coupon, please ask me on Thursday or Friday morning. I'm
gone from 12 noon Pacific Time and won't be home for about 9 hours. I will
have some down time in between, but the FTDNA web site is not mobile
friendly, so you may not get the coupon you need. So ask me now or on
Thursday and no later than Friday morning.

(All the people who are sending in the coupons...THANKS!!)

Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

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