Good morning folks,
As this thread's gotten way off track, time to snip it.
Regards,
Patrick Woolsey
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At 12:40 AM -0700 on 1/13/11, LuKreme wrote:
Snow Leopard is $29. If your machine is capable or running
it price is really not an excuse. Drivers are an excuse.
Pennywise and pound foolish.
Exactly...If your machine is capable [of] running it
This is precisely the point that some of us
Alex Satrapa gr...@goldweb.com.au sez:
On 13/01/2011, at 12:41 , Walter Ian Kaye wrote:
I don't understand how anyone can consider themselves using a Mac when
it doesn't support creator codes, deprecates resource forks, and relies
on filename extensions.
It's painful isn't it? Of course the
Exactly...If your machine is capable [of] running it
This is precisely the point that some of us have been making.
Not everyone can afford the latest and the greatest machines.
Who told you that you had to buy the latest and greatest?
Apple has sold only Intel machines (all of which can run
On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Rich Siegel sie...@barebones.com wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2011, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote:
And is it possible to 'upgrade' a Mac App Store version to the 'real'
version (both for BBEdit and TextWrangler).
Apart from that, there's really no reason
LuKreme krem...@kreme.com sez
And is it possible to 'upgrade' a Mac App Store version to the 'real'
version (both for BBEdit and TextWrangler).
Apart from that, there's really no reason *why* you'd want to do that,
since the products are identical (with a specific nod made to the
command-line
Le 11/01/11 22:38, Rich Siegel (sie...@barebones.com) a écrit :
Apart from that, there's really no reason *why* you'd want to do
that, since the products are identical (with a specific nod made
to the command-line tools/authenticated save issue, which we
intend to be strictly temporary).
On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Jean-Jacques Ardoino wrote:
The first one can only be used on Macs under OS X 10.6.6, and the second one
can be used on Macs under OS X 10.5 or 10.6. Same soft but different
possibilities. If you buy it on App Store, you can't redowload it on a 10.5
Mac.
That's
Not that I understand wanting to run any OS that isn't current…
Some of us depend upon peripherals that are slow to see driver
updates. Color management took some debilitating hits with
architecture changes in Snow Leapard, for instance.
Cheers,
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Not that I understand wanting to run any OS that isn't
currentŠ
Comments such as the above have always bothered me.
We need to be mindful of the fact that not everyone can
afford to purchase the latest and the greatest the minute
that Apple pushes something new out the door.
While I
it in this list, January 8 at 14:19 :
There is a big point with the Mac App Store, and BBEdit is a good example.
If you get BBEdit at BareBones' site, you have an app which can be used on
PPC and Intel Macs, with OS X 10.5 and 10.6.
If you get BBEdit at the Store, you have an app which can be used
Le 12/01/11 18:09, Steve Kalkwarf (kalkw...@barebones.com) a écrit :
Not that I understand wanting to run any OS that isn't currentŠ
I didn't see this at first sight, but perhaps can you explain how to install
the current OS on a PPC G5 Mac ? I just can't wait to know. :-)
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At 12:09 p -0500 01/12/2011, Steve Kalkwarf didst inscribe upon an
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Not that I understand wanting to run any OS that isn't currentŠ
Oh he opened the Pandora's box. :-)
Up through Tiger, Apple was restoring functionality that was present
back in System 7. After Tiger,
On 13/01/2011, at 12:41 , Walter Ian Kaye wrote:
I don't understand how anyone can consider themselves using a Mac when it
doesn't support creator codes, deprecates resource forks, and relies on
filename extensions.
It's painful isn't it? Of course the issue has been done to death:
On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Webmaster webmas...@endtimeprophecy.net wrote:
We need to be mindful of the fact that not everyone can
afford to purchase the latest and the greatest the minute
that Apple pushes something new out the door.
Snow Leopard is $29. If your machine is capable or
On 10-Jan-2011, at 19:33, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:
At 10:31 a -0500 01/10/2011, Patrick Woolsey didst inscribe upon an
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Herbert Schulz he...@wideopenwest.com sez:
A: In BBEdit and TextWrangler, authenticated saves (the ability to save
changes to files that you do not own)
LuKreme krem...@kreme.com
[...]
And is it possible to 'upgrade' a Mac App Store version to the 'real'
version (both for BBEdit and TextWrangler).
Since I'm not certain what you mean by the above, can you please clarify?
(i.e. are you asking about licensing, functionality, or otherwise?)
On Tuesday, January 11, 2011, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote:
And is it possible to 'upgrade' a Mac App Store version to the 'real'
version (both for BBEdit and TextWrangler).
It is not. The Mac App Store and our direct sales operations
live in parallel universes, and there is no means,
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Rich Siegel sie...@barebones.com wrote:
the products are identical (with a specific nod made to the command-line
tools/authenticated save issue, which we intend to be strictly temporary).
I hope that BB intends on keeping the command-line tools/authenticated
On Tuesday, January 11, 2011, Steve deRosier
deros...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope that BB intends on keeping the command-line tools/authenticated
save as they're things many of us actually use!
There is no intention for those features to go anywhere, as I
hoped to have made amply clear by this
On 10/01/2011, at 6:27 PM, LuKreme wrote:
On 9-Jan-2011, at 04:43, Richard McLean wrote:
the App store decides to download updates
The App Store app doesn't decide to download updates. You open it, go to
updates, and tell it to download them all and it does so.
OK, good to know. If
Hi All,
1: I will never buy any serious Mac software from the App Store! Why?
For my mom and dad, it might be a valid solution, but Apple's control of what
type of software I'm allowed to install on MY computer is not something I like
to give up! If you read the FAQ beneath, it's clear that no
On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:43 AM, Jakob Peterhänsel wrote:
Hi All,
...
2: I guess this also explain it spot on:
Q: Are there any differences between the App Store versions of your software
and the versions available directly from your web site?
A: In BBEdit and TextWrangler, authenticated
Herbert Schulz he...@wideopenwest.com sez:
[...]
A: In BBEdit and TextWrangler, authenticated saves (the ability to save
changes to files that you do not own) and the command-line tools are not
available in the App Store versions, in order to comply with Apple's
submission guidelines. We are
At 10:31 a -0500 01/10/2011, Patrick Woolsey didst inscribe upon an
electronic papyrus:
Herbert Schulz he...@wideopenwest.com sez:
[...]
A: In BBEdit and TextWrangler, authenticated saves (the ability to save
changes to files that you do not own) and the command-line tools are not
available
On 08/01/2011, at 3:30 AM, LuKreme wrote:
The difference is all the apps will get updated all at once and I won't have
to do an upgrade dance for each and every one.
Sorry, it's just been replaced by another dance is all.
The
On Jan 9, 6:50 am, Morbus Iff wrote:
DOES it automatically download updates? I’ve yet to receive any.
Today, TextWrangler 3.5.1 became available. Similar to the iOS store
on the iPad and iPhone, you see that there updates available, but you
have to click on them to actually download them. Also,
On 9-Jan-2011, at 04:43, Richard McLean wrote:
the App store decides to download updates
The App Store app doesn't decide to download updates. You open it, go to
updates, and tell it to download them all and it does so.
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:30:06 -0700, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote:
On 7-Jan-2011, at 09:07, David Alexander wrote:
Then
you'll have another full price upgrade when and if Apple decides that
a new version is worthy and every time after that.
Apple is not deciding anything. Developers set
Le 06/01/11 17:45, Simdude (markmille...@gmail.com) a écrit :
Any thoughts on the Mac App Store and if that is the way BBEdit should
be sold?
There is a big point with the Mac App Store, and BBEdit is a good example.
If you get BBEdit at BareBones' site, you have an app which can be used
That's a bummer you won't get the upgrade notice if you already
purchased but if Barebones has an upgrade price for version 10 we can
buy through the app store, you'll get in sync at that point.
One comment I noticed on TextWrangler was someone said BB had to
remove the ability to edit files as
, and immediately expected BareBones to postpone the release of
BBEdit to the Mac App Store exactly for this reason. They picked another
option, which probably makes business sense, but still leaves some users
in the cold. Oh well, if you need that feature, you're probably savvy
enough to find the store
On 6-Jan-2011, at 13:37, David Kelly wrote:
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:46:12PM -0700, LuKreme wrote:
Also, the App Store has no way to link a pervious purchase to an app.
So, for example, if BBEdit is in the App Store it will show up in my
App Store view as a purchased app, but I will not
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 05:24:58 -0800 (PST), Simdude
markmille...@gmail.com wrote:
That's a bummer you won't get the upgrade notice if you already
purchased but if Barebones has an upgrade price for version 10 we can
buy through the app store, you'll get in sync at that point.
I fail to see what the
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:07 AM, David Alexander listm...@cox.net wrote:
The one thing I keep seeing people say is they want to get their
updates through the App store.
I expect that with most apps, I will move to the App Store when they
release their next major version, assuming that the
Any thoughts on the Mac App Store and if that is the way BBEdit should
be sold? Just a few of my thoughts:
1. The app store will kill a lot of traditional mac app developers if
they don't figure out how to sell that way. App prices are simply
going to plummet and selling apps over about $25 is
It's there now.
On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Simdude wrote:
Any thoughts on the Mac App Store and if that is the way BBEdit should
be sold? Just a few of my thoughts:
1. The app store will kill a lot of traditional mac app developers if
they don't figure out how to sell that way. App prices
thanks Jeanne! I just saw the tweet from barebones. Unfortunately, my
company is all Windows with some linux. The one mac I'm hanging on too
is PPC based so I can't see the store from here. :-(
On Jan 6, 11:52 am, Jeanne Pelletier jea...@edgechild.com wrote:
It's there now.
On Jan 6, 2011, at
On 6-Jan-2011, at 09:45, Simdude wrote:
Any thoughts on the Mac App Store and if that is the way BBEdit should
be sold? Just a few of my thoughts:
1. The app store will kill a lot of traditional mac app developers if
they don't figure out how to sell that way. App prices are simply
going
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:46:12PM -0700, LuKreme wrote:
Also, the App Store has no way to link a pervious purchase to an app.
So, for example, if BBEdit is in the App Store it will show up in my
App Store view as a purchased app, but I will not get update
information or be able to update it
On Jan 6, 2:37 pm, David Kelly wrote:
Really? On my machines App Store.app has no trouble indicating the
status of BBEdit is installed no matter my purchase of BBEdit long
predates the App Store. Same is also true for iWork, but thats less
surprising.
I've seen this discussed in a few
On Jan 6, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Dennis Whiteman wrote:
It doesn't sound like the apps we already have installed on our Macs
will be upgraded via the App Store, but rather upgrades will only
happen for applications purchased through the Mac App Store. That's
not a huge problem for most of us, but
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