Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Ah, yes I do, but I probably did it for a reason at some point in the distant past. Just turned it off and restarted BBEdit, but the behavior didn't change. Weird When I have time I can try restarting my Mac and see if that makes a difference. Thanks -- Barbara > On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:15

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Barbara, if you go to System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts, do you have the radio button at the bottom set to "All controls"? Changing it to "Text boxes and lists only" may change the behavior you're describing, so you only have to hit that key chord once, not three times, to change focus i

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

On 7 Feb 2019, at 20:27, @lbutlr wrote: > > and at the end you can only move forward. brain-o, backward, of course. -- I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise, we climbed aboard their starship, we headed for the skies. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you h

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

On 7 Feb 2019, at 14:58, Christopher Stone wrote: > As I said – Control-Shift Tab – moves you FROM the sidebar TO the document > being edited. > > Control-Tab moves you FROM the document being edited TO the FILES part of the > sidebar. This is confusing. I now what you are talking about and I

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Thanks, Barbara. I appreciate you sharing what you’ve learned. I haven’t been working in BBEdit projects of late, but I’ll tuck this away next time I’m back at it! On Feb 7, 2019, 5:06 PM -0500, Barbara Snyder , wrote: > Brian -- > > What I have discovered (noted earlier) is the following: > > If

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Brian -- What I have discovered (noted earlier) is the following: If I am in the editing window, pressing ctrl-shift-tab THREE times gets me to the list of files at the top of the sidebar. Then I can use arrow keys to go up and down, and press Enter to open (if the file is not already open).

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

On 02/07/2019, at 14:45, Barbara Snyder mailto:barb...@signalfx.com>> wrote: > I am in the list of files (top left of sidebar). > > I click or use the keyboard to navigate to an open document, which now shows > up in the editor window. > > I want to use the keyboard to place my cursor in the ope

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

OK maybe my terminology is inexact. I am in the list of files (top left of sidebar). I click or use the keyboard to navigate to an open document, which now shows up in the editor window. I want to use the keyboard to place my cursor in the open document. After more futzing, I have finally det

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

On 02/07/2019, at 13:18, Barbara Snyder mailto:barb...@signalfx.com>> wrote: > IOW if I am in the sidebar and navigate to the name of a document that is > open, I can never get from there to the editor via the keyboard. Hey Barbara, Control-Tab to get from the Editor into the sidebar. Control-

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

That isn't working for me. I checked all my keyboard shortcuts and macros in other places (like mac settings and Keyboard Maestro), and I do not have those keys mapped to anything that might be conflicting. They move me among the stuff in the sidebar (icons on bottom etc) and to other windows I

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

For the record, Control-Tab and Control-Shift-Tab are standard (macOS-wide) window navigation gestures. :-) Regards, Patrick Woolsey == Bare Bones Software, Inc. On 2/7/19 at 1:33 PM, listmeis...@suddenlink.net (Christopher Stone) wrote: On 02/07/2019

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

On 02/07/2019, at 12:06, Barbara Snyder mailto:barb...@signalfx.com>> wrote: > I still can't find any way to get focus into the project sidebar via the > keyboard. If I am in the editor, I have to click into the sidebar to navigate > through the files in the project. > > Similarly, if I select o

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Yes I did all of these. I copied and pasted so I know I did it correctly. Just did it again. Figured out what i was doing wrong with the double-click (they were all already open, duh). I still can't find any way to get focus into the project sidebar via the keyboard. If I am in the editor, I ha

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

i have no memory of ever doing this, but must have… it’s a brilliant feature i use all the time. as usual: thx, barebones! 8-) > On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:13 AM, Patrick Woolsey > wrote: > > On 2/6/19 at 7:23 PM, barb...@signalfx.com

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

On 2/6/19 at 7:23 PM, barb...@signalfx.com (Barbara Snyder) wrote: What I want to do is use the keyboard to select a different file from the project file list. [...] There is an expert prefs option which you can set to obtain this behavior. Cribbing from the "Expert Preferences" page of the

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Hi - I know these messages are old, but I am running into the same issues. But nothing suggested here works WRT using the keyboard. Cmd-Option-arrows doesn't seem to do anything. Neither do the ctrl-tab options. What I want to do is use the keyboard to select a different file from the project f

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Thanks, Lee, but that’s not a “compact/terse list”. Nonetheless, following your hint, I decided to extract the espresso (using BBEdit as my espresso machine, of course) and here it is. To suit your taste(s), you can add your preferred amount of textured milk to produce a macchiato, a cappuccin

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Look for Expert Preferences in BBEdit Help (under the Help Menu). > On Mar 10, 2018, at 9:24 AM, F. Alfredo Rego wrote: > > Very Nice, Patrick. > > Is there a compact/terse list of all of these great “accessory prefs” > somewhere? > > Thanks. > > Alfredo > >> On Mar 10, 2018, at 10:12 AM, P

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Very Nice, Patrick. Is there a compact/terse list of all of these great “accessory prefs” somewhere? Thanks. Alfredo > On Mar 10, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Patrick Woolsey wrote: > > On 3/9/18 at 6:11 PM, bria...@gmail.com (Brian Christiansen) wrote: > >>> defaults write com.barebones.bbedit Projec

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

On 3/9/18 at 6:11 PM, bria...@gmail.com (Brian Christiansen) wrote: defaults write com.barebones.bbedit ProjectsListCanAcquireKeyboardFocus -bool YES Patrick, thank you. Now I have to struggle with whether I actually like this or not. Because the Project sidebar is instant-activation, by wh

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Rich, Nice, BUT the file opens in a new window. How about just “activating” it within the Project’s “Currently Open Documents”? I appreciate discovering all of these no-so-obvious jewels. Thanks. Alfredo > On Mar 10, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Rich Siegel wrote: > > On 3/6/18 at 5:33 PM, f.alfredor.

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

On 3/6/18 at 5:33 PM, f.alfredor...@gmail.com (F. Alfredo Rego) wrote: Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT having to click on it (i.e., without taking our hands off the keyboard)? If you have a project open, try "Open File by Name" and type the first few cha

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

> defaults write com.barebones.bbedit ProjectsListCanAcquireKeyboardFocus -bool YES Patrick, thank you. Now I have to struggle with whether I actually like this or not. Because the Project sidebar is instant-activation, by which I mean, it opens the file as soon as it's highlighted. So if I wan

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Hey Chris, These two shortcuts work great. Thanks! Alfredo > On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Christopher Stone > wrote: > > On 03/06/2018, at 16:33, F. Alfredo Rego > wrote: >> Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT having >> to c

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

On 03/06/2018, at 16:33, F. Alfredo Rego mailto:f.alfredor...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT having > to click on it (i.e., without taking our hands off the keyboard)? Hey Alfredo, Control-Tab Control-Shift-Tab -- Best Regards, Chris

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but CMD + OPT + Left or Right Arrow Key moves around the Currently Open Documents pane in the Projects list. No need to shift focus to it first. Note that if you use that keyboard shortcut, the list of projects in the top pane does not update to

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Thanks, Patrick for the useful cribbing. Any tricks for getting the focus on the [project’s] file list WITHOUT having to click on it (i.e., without taking our hands off the keyboard)? We want to save EVERY calorie that we can. Alfredo > On Mar 6, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Patrick Woolsey wrote: > >

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

There is an expert pref which you can set to allow the file list to gain keyboard focus. Cribbing from the "Expert Preferences" page of the Help book: Projects * In project windows, the file list does not accept keyboard focus by default, unless the editing view is hidden. You

Re: Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Hello Brian, I use Keyboard Maestro with great success for these kinds of challenges. Enjoy! Alfredo > On Mar 5, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Brian Christiansen wrote: > > Hello, > > After searching the user manual (love that thing) and this group, I can't > find anything on getting around within the

Navigating folders and files in a project sidebar from the keyboard?

Hello, After searching the user manual (love that thing) and this group, I can't find anything on getting around within the sidebar without taking my hands off the keyboard. What I am picturing is, 1. Key combo to shift focus to the sidebar 2. Keys to move through the hierarchy, in the manner