http://www.omri.org/sludge.pdf
http://www.cfe.cornell.edu/wmi/PDFS/Caseforcaution.pdf
And see various references at:
http://www.cfe.cornell.edu/wmi/
Frank Teuton
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From: Wayne and Sharon McEachern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bio-Dynamic List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
to increase
appetite and improve growth rates.
Frank Teuton
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From: Will Brinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: mean spirited
Where is this case of arsenic being taken to court? Any particulars would
a bit more like Elaine than Will to me...
Best,
Frank Teuton
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From: Merla Barberie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: CT=BDcompost,preps+Alaska humus, forest humus kelp
Thanks, Frank, I appreciate your
to you. If at all possible look for data that has
been published somewhere when seeking to choose between conflicting
opinions. And, when in doubt, try it out, and see what works best for you.
'The way of the old masters, was to find their own way'.
Frank Teuton
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From
on. Or
not. Just don't pretend to be courageous if you don't.
My two cents,
Frank Teuton--hopes he didn't make anyone 'uncomfortable'.;-)
'We must all hang together, or we shall surely hang separately.' ---Benjamin
Franklin, who had mad King George in his day too;-)
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From: Frank Teuton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SANET-MG] Compost Tea and Organics
Dear Dr Benbrook:
I appreciate the tone of your post
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From: Vicki Bess
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: E-Coli
Hello,
Thanks
for the inquiry, sorry your name was not attached so that I could address you
personally. I apologize for the delay in response but I have been
.
And be sure, Lloyd, that if I buy produce grown with compost tea, I will
want a good close look at their practices and procedures.
Frank Teuton
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From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Search
other farms are suspected (14). Ruminants appear to be the primary
reservoir.
Thanks,
Merla
You're welcome,
Frank Teuton
battle.
Gotta not give in to the zeitgeist, eh?
In times of war, prepare for peace, I say...
Frank Teuton
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From: Chuck Benbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:23 AM
Subject: [SANET-MG] Compost Tea and Organics
I have learned much from the ongoing dialogue re compost and
compost
tea safety and thank the technical
Ingham herself accepts as reasonable the suggestion that compost for tea
applications on fresh produce within 120 days of harvest be tested and
certified E. coli free.
I think she knows that not all 'composts' will qualify.
Frank Teuton
risks.
Somehow, Oh well and Shrug seem to me unacceptable as a response to this
possibility.
Frank Teuton
it remarkable
how easily the BD crowd dismisses their own compost scientist's viewpoint
and research on this subject.
It may be time to take a closer look at this, and be a bit more rigorous and
skeptical.
Frank Teuton---true, he doesn't lock his doors, but his garage is full of
savage attack trained
.
Pretending it doesn't exist is not the answer.
Frank Teuton
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From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Search for results of Elaine's testing of bd preps
Dear Frank,
The E. coli scare is absurd. I
been living and dying
out there for lo, these many years.and here we all still are, eh?
Frank Teuton
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From: Stacey Elin Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: Deer and Elk in compost
To explain why I
, but need some extra attention to avoid problems.
Frank Teuton
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From: Stacey Elin Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Cats in compost
The reason I found it unusual is that I have read in
many places
www.oregonbd.org
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From: Patti Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Religion?
Dave Robison wrote:
The religion thing is difficult to convey without much more interaction.
Let me suggest that in
rigeur, which means we gotta have it.
Frank Teuton---humbly acknowledging that humus needs humidity...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: Compost Tea List
In a message dated 8/28/02 6:30:25 AM, [EMAIL
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/airwaste/wm/recycle/Tea/tea1.htm
Another set of instructions. It is also well worth while to buy Elaine's
Compost Tea Manual, www.soilfoodweb.com
the density.
See:
http://mailman.cloudnet.com/pipermail/compost/2001-January/002407.html
3/4 of a ton is 1500 pounds, but 3/4 of a tonne (metric tonne, 2200 pounds)
is a hefty 1650 pounds.
Anyway, Allan, weigh a bucket of it and multiply by 40.;-)
Frank Teuton
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Hi Lloyd,
I think you meant 202 gallons, not 220. That'd be 40.5 buckets, or about
40
Frank---still standing at 40 buckets, although (white buckets) still need to
be measured to know 'zactly how much stuff they hold
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From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/atnetwork/atsourcebook/chapters/agtools.htm#The%20Ha
ndcart%20Handbook
Frank Teuton---has carted about a few cubic yards of compost and stuff
- comes out at 199.98 us
gallon - still no way this is gonna fit in any wheel barrow that I ever
saw
LCharles
I think what Steve is getting at, is that this post violated copyright.
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From: Steve Diver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Soil Fertility and Biodiversity in Organic Farming
Moen Creek, this post is
, in case anyone would like more
thoughts on this subject.
Frank Teuton
Micah wrote:
Cordelia,
Good luck with your clay soil! Regarding the peat, one thing that a lot of
people are not aware of is that the peat industry is causing huge
destruction to bogs all over the world, bogs which took
Help me here, a serious question 'caue I'm no zoologist: are elephants
ruminants? Cud chewing bliss beasts filled with beneficial
micro-organisms? -Allan
Hind gut fermenters like horses, say the books.
Dung ho!
Dear NOSB members and those interested in compost teas:
I have been informed in the last few days that the process of making
amplified aerobic microbial cultures starting with high quality compost,
aerated water and nutrients to create a high bacteria and fungal count
product useful in
falls in, plop, plop, plop-get
it? :-)
Frank Teuton---has recently been reminded of the power of hooves, from
Belgian horses to sheep, and even birds can scratch up compostables a
bityou might call it 'macro-comminution' if you've been spending too
much time at sites like this one:
http
with city water though because of the chlorine
thing.
16-1 is a pretty high dilution rate for most tea things I
could think of, but on a small scale might be just the way to make a little tea
go a long way.
My tuppence,
Frank Teuton
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From:
Lloyd
is off
base, eh?
Look forward to hearing the dialog between these thinkers
Frank Teuton
Here is a useful website for finding air pumps, diffusers, etc, and some
info:
www.aquaticeco.com
- 50
gallon range should be available at about the cost of the aeration equipment
plus container.
With a 100 gallon system from the big boys going for as much as $4000 US,
the economies of figuring this out on a DIY basis seem substantial.
Some bubblings,
Frank Teuton
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Bt explained in more depth:
http://www.eap.mcgill.ca/MagRack/JPR/JPR_22.htm
Bt is Bacillus thuringiensis, the subvarieties include
kurstaki, israelensis, and san diego, which control lepidopterans, mosquitos and
blackflies, and beetles respectively.
Frank---has an entemologist friend who
Google hits on plant root exudates:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~tgraham/exud_tbl.htm
http://www.biotech-info.net/fate_effects.html
http://www.ls.huji.ac.il/~nurit/photosyn/Nitrogen/Rhizobium-legumeassociatio
n.htm
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From: Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
invasion, and this principle can also apply in
different botanical settings as well.
Hope that helps a bit,
Frank Teuton
As for the weed peppers, maybe. They can't hurt tho I don't know how
effective they are without a knowledgeable practitioner involved. That is,
I don't know how much of the human
the goats will still
thrive until they have ate every bush and shrub to the bare roots - have
seen this in the Australian bush a number of times with ferals - its not
the
goats fault - they are the most amazing critters to rejuvenate degraded
range land when they are controlled in the
them turnips at Storch's, eh?
Frank Teutondances with paradigms
would hesitate to use them unless I knew the soil really needed
copper.
Frank Teuton
lks :
I checked with Lee Valley Tools, and apparently they don't carry the
copper-button Hoe anymore. I've requested info on their old stock. I
remember it more as a large copper rivet whose sloughing
Frank, et al,
- Most cattle feeds are supplemented with copper to the point that
are considered to be dangerous to sheep (sheep apparently cannot
eliminate cooper appropriately and it eventually becomes toxic in
their systems). Does this added copper interfere with the
decomposition of
Try this one:
http://www.implementations.co.uk/
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From: Aurora Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Sharp Sand for potting mix
Tony:
Rambler writes: to which i add worm pee
How _do_ you get those worms to pee in a cup for you?
Usually, when I have
I know the REAL biocultivator had a little copper rivet attached to it.
Gardena has a similar tool with apparently some sort of copper plating,
looks like much higher dosing with copper.
I view this way of adding copper to soil with some skepticism. How do you
know the soil needs copper? What
problems.:-)
Best part of the presentation was when someone put their nose into my
milkcrate that had quasi-finished vermicompost and its makers in it. It
smells like spring, she said happily.
Spring, and springtails.
Life is good.
Frank Teuton
Hey, Frank -
What about the other side
Are we all in the same canoe?
What was it Sojourner Truth said?
If you draw a small circle that excludes me, I will draw a bigger circle
that includes you.
Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:45 AM
Subject: Re:
superhighway.
Frank Teuton---he doesn't 'get' radionics, but finds it entertaining to
'hear' people speaking through their computers about the evils of
instrumentation/machines---we all have our little blind spots, now don't we?
;-
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From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED
I fired this one off to Elaine just the other day, this list would be a good
place for her to answer, I expect...
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From: Frank Teuton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:23 AM
Subject
or no python boots.
On the other hand, naming your daughter 'Moon Unit' seems a touch more New
Agey somehow
One thing about Al Gore, he did write a preface to Our Stolen Future,
www.ourstolenfuture.org.
Frank Teuton---reminding everyone to not eat yellow snow..it is that
time of year
See also:
http://www.livingmachines.com/htm/home.htm
Not BD and at a slight tangent but interesting all the same:
http://www.ratical.org/LifeWeb/Articles/rushes.html.
To quote a little:
At eighty-two, Dr. Kaethe Seidel, head of the former Limnology
Group of the Max Planck Institute,
Allan,
In keeping with your anti-hydrolic bias, please don't mention anything on
this list that has to do with aquatic systems, whether fresh, salt or
brackish, eh?
No mention of moose, duckweed, Azolla, watercress, or heaven forfend, evil
seaweed should be made, because of their
Let's be smart enough, though, to actually find her website:
www.soilfoodweb.com not .org
Frank
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From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:18 PM
Subject: Soil Foodweb Questions?
Hey, Friends!
I'm very
Hi Allan,
Check out:
http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/page2.htm
Found at
http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/aquaponic.html#speraneo
and see also
http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/aquaponic.html
That would start you out with an organic, hydroponic system working in
tandem with fish rearing, that
?
Best regards,
Frank Teuton
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From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:18 PM
Subject: Soil Foodweb Questions?
Hey, Friends!
I'm very excited to announce that Dr. ELAINE INGHAM has agreed to
answer questions posed
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