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Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 3:20:07 PM UTC+1, Jason Kridner wrote:
We are working with Robert Nelson's Debian images to try
:
From: Anguel anguel@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 3:20:07 PM UTC+1
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 5:09:53 PM UTC-6, Anguel wrote:
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 3:20:07 PM UTC+1, Jason Kridner wrote:
We are working with Robert Nelson's Debian images to try to produce an
out-of-box experience on par with the Angstrom images. Once we have a
few more
] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 3:20:07 PM UTC+1, Jason Kridner wrote:
We are working with Robert Nelson's Debian images to try to produce an
out-of-box experience on par with the Angstrom images. Once we have a
few more features in, namely an updated Cloud9
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Terry Storm terrystor...@gmail.com wrote:
A little birdy told me that Angstrom has been abandoned for the BBB ??
I wouldn't say abandoned. If there are things you need fixed, it is
still possible for us to make bug fixes in the image. Also, I haven't
heard
On Friday, January 3, 2014 9:57:12 PM UTC+1, John Syne wrote:
Have you tried Xenomai? I looked at using F28M35C Concerto devices and I
always seemed to run out of memory when adding all the pieces I needed such
as network stack, security, etc.
Not yet. I am not that experienced with
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 3:20:07 PM UTC+1, Jason Kridner wrote:
We are working with Robert Nelson's Debian images to try to produce an
out-of-box experience on par with the Angstrom images. Once we have a
few more features in, namely an updated Cloud9 IDE that works with
node 0.10,
From: Anguel anguel.stan...@gmail.com
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Date: Saturday, January 4, 2014 at 3:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
On Saturday, January 4, 2014
From: Anguel anguel.stan...@gmail.com
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Date: Friday, January 3, 2014 at 2:05 AM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
On Friday, January 3, 2014 1:20:58 AM UTC+1, John Syne wrote
On Friday, January 3, 2014 8:03:32 PM UTC+1, John Syne wrote:
Hi Anguel,
Yes, I originally built the TI Graphics SDK and installed it on top of
Robert’s Debian release, but now Robert has kindly added a SGX script which
I can confirm does the same thing.
Sounds good. Today I wrote
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Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
On Friday, January 3, 2014 8:03:32 PM UTC+1, John Syne wrote:
Hi Anguel,
Yes, I originally built the TI Graphics SDK and installed it on top of
Robert’s Debian release, but now Robert has kindly added
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 4:33 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
Robert, I would not mind helping out, if I can, I just do not know where to
start. Actual testing, I would think you'd want some one familiar with a
scope / LA, and that person is not me. YET.
Pretty much what I need in
Yeah no big hurry. I have a PIN out file i think and if not I have a PDF of
the schematic, which will take me a while to put that into a file. So yeah
will be a few days at least before I can get to that anyhow.
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:
On
When I first got a BBB around the middle of 2013 it took me a week to sort
out a working device tree compiler; that's now a straight download from
Robert Nelson's site; and there are a lot of other improvements. However,
the BBB software isn't really stable enough for the long-term, albeit
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:08:25 AM UTC+1, David wrote:
Well said William! Initially, I adopted Angstrom as it seemed to be the
official way that the Beagle community was heading. About a month,
however, ago I felt that Angstrom was not meeting my needs as far as
stability and
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Anguel anguel.stan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:08:25 AM UTC+1, David wrote:
Well said William! Initially, I adopted Angstrom as it seemed to be the
official way that the Beagle community was heading. About a month,
however, ago I felt
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:35:49 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:
David, do you know if USB gadget support (g_multi) is working on Debian
as
it does on Angstrom? Also, I experience some strange USB problems with
latest libusb(x) when doing asynchronous USB transfers in parallel.
Robert, so 3.12.x is done then ?
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Anguel anguel.stan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:35:49 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:
David, do you know if USB gadget support (g_multi) is working on Debian
as
it does on Angstrom? Also, I
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:03 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
Robert, so 3.12.x is done then ?
I'm personally done with it. ;) If someone wants to keep it going for
rt/xenomai... Or they want to port the 2000+ patches from the ti
3.12 kernel bsp...
idk... ignoring the capes, more
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:03 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
Robert, so 3.12.x is done then ?
I'm personally done with it. ;) If someone wants to keep it going for
rt/xenomai... Or they want to port the
Just one question: Is there any particular reason to choose Debian over
Ubuntu or the other way around?
Also, should I use Debian on my host when planing to use it on the BBB?
Thanks in advance.
Anguel
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Anguel anguel.stan...@gmail.com wrote:
Just one question: Is there any particular reason to choose Debian over
Ubuntu or the other way around?
Also, should I use Debian on my host when planing to use it on the BBB?
In general, Debian developers are just easier
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:26:15 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:
In general, Debian developers are just easier to work with... ;)
That's an argument :) Convinced :)
BTW, are there any known issues cross-compiling Qt4-Embedded on Debian?
Anguel
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Anguel anguel.stan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:26:15 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:
In general, Debian developers are just easier to work with... ;)
That's an argument :) Convinced :)
BTW, are there any known issues cross-compiling
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Date: Thursday, January 2, 2014 at 2:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:26:15 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:37:58 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:
I usually stay away from gui's...
Yes, but sometiomes they are needed :( By using the embedded version of Qt
4.8 I can do without a window manager. On Angstrom I could easily build an
embedded cross-toolchain with Qt.
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:48:24 PM UTC+1, John Syne wrote:
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No, just asking because I read that there is no qt4-embedded package on
Debian.
The full qt4 is available thou. :)
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On 01/02/2014 05:00 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
No, just asking because I read that there is no qt4-embedded package on
Debian.
The full qt4 is available thou. :)
As a recent convert to Debian on the BBB. I am pleased to find the
full versions of applications. With specifically embedded
From: Anguel anguel.stan...@gmail.com
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Date: Thursday, January 2, 2014 at 2:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:37:58 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson
From: Anguel anguel.stan...@gmail.com
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Date: Thursday, January 2, 2014 at 2:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:37:58 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson
On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 1:37:02 PM UTC+1, Elena Grandi wrote:
This theory has a problem: Beagleboard.org was born in 2008 or so,
much earlier than the Raspberry (which started to be known to the
public in 2011, and was available in 2012).
Ok, I admit I am not much aware of the way
Den onsdagen den 1:e januari 2014 kl. 13:13:55 UTC+1 skrev Anguel:
Happy New Year everybody!
Well, reading all those comments here about non-profit and break-even
calculations my theory is the following:
On the other hand it is very interesting for me to know how much this
non-profit
On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 6:55:38 AM UTC-6, Anguel wrote:
On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 1:37:02 PM UTC+1, Elena Grandi wrote:
This theory has a problem: Beagleboard.org was born in 2008 or so,
much earlier than the Raspberry (which started to be known to the
public in 2011, and was
Anyone willing to donate some funds so we can fund some SW developers?
Gerald
Yes.
Thanks,
Hugh Johnson
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You know what I find funny ?
That here is one hell of a piece of hardware ( complete system ), that
costs $45( very good price ), that works very well if you're willing to
spend some time working on it ( software ). And all a bunch of people on
this list can do is complain, find conspiracy
Well said William! Initially, I adopted Angstrom as it seemed to be the
official way that the Beagle community was heading. About a month,
however, ago I felt that Angstrom was not meeting my needs as far as
stability and support, so I changed to Debian. No big deal. It only
took a day or two,
What is funny is that it still seems to be expected that everyone who buys
a BBB should be required to have the capability to make it work correctly.
Your argument is valid but still only for a small proportion of buyers.
Think of all the people out there who have brought a BBB to maybe be a
From: Terry Storm terrystor...@gmail.com
Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 at 7:05 PM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
What is funny is that it still seems to be expected
Uh, well for me it's the virtual capes - the actual list I'm loading is:
BB-SPIDEV1
BB-I2C1
BB-UART1
BB-UART2
BB-UART4
BB-UART5
BB-ADC
Plus several of the virtual capes from
https://github.com/nomel/beaglebone/tree/master/gpio-header so I can turn
on/off individual GPIO pull-ups. But it's
Well, i got 3 of these working on 3.13 last night..
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Mike Bremford m...@bfo.com wrote:
Uh, well for me it's the virtual capes - the actual list I'm loading is:
BB-SPIDEV1
BB-I2C1
Should be able to get these working today, just need someone to test..
BB-UART1
I see what you're doing, patching am335x which is presumably loaded
directly by the kernel on boot - much simpler than loading after the boot I
guess.
So they load no problem, and I have UART1, 2 and 4! Nice work!. I have to
dig out a complicated wiring harness to actually test them, but the
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Mike Bremford m...@bfo.com wrote:
I see what you're doing, patching am335x which is presumably loaded directly
by the kernel on boot - much simpler than loading after the boot I guess.
So they load no problem, and I have UART1, 2 and 4! Nice work!. I have to
It's P9.18, P9.17 - there's nothing in the logs either I'm afraid.
On 31 December 2013 16:55, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Mike Bremford m...@bfo.com wrote:
I see what you're doing, patching am335x which is presumably loaded
directly
by the
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mike Bremford m...@bfo.com wrote:
It's P9.18, P9.17 - there's nothing in the logs either I'm afraid.
Thanks! i just also enabled i2c2 (eeprom bus) now to find an i2c
device to stick on P9.18/19 from my scrap pile..
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On 30/12/2013, at 02:03, Mike Bremford m...@bfo.com wrote:
Where is this documented? And why should I care? The above two paragraphs are
unintelligible to anyone that hasn't been involved in embedded Linux for some
time.
It seems you are barking at the wrong tree.
Unix is a tool. A
%) and not by kernel/Linux developers.
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Excellent summary Paulo. I would add one level:
0) Novice user level - Expects a shrink wrapped system to just work
like Windows, but without the crashes ;)
A very Happy New Year to all,
Dave.
On 12/30/2013 03:13 AM, Paulo Ferreira wrote:
On 30/12/2013, at 02:03, Mike Bremford
Great discussion.
My main issue with this whole system is that its designed for Hobbyists and
Developers. Yes developers who know what they are doing can work through
issues and develop what they require. Hobbyists however, not so much,
obviously depending on the skill of the hobbyist though.
I
Circuitco, breaks even, barely. Beagleboard.org makes no money at all.
TI, well they make a little of the chips, but provides no funding for
BeagleBoard.org.
Anyone willing to donate some funds so we can fund some SW developers?
Gerald
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Terry Storm
Aha, well that certainly explains it. Yes, I'd chip in to get cape support
added to one of Robert's more recent (3.12 or 3.13) kernels with stable
USB. Myself, I'd also be willing to pay slightly more per board
(reasonable, as the result would be a better product), but I realise that's
more
I don't know if there is any truth to this new article but it states that
there will be a move towards debian in the next few months.
http://linuxgizmos.com/beaglebone-black-sbc-surpasses-10-units/
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Allow me to add my support (AKA 2 cents) to this thread. Noting elsewhere
that CircuitCo has shipped over 100,000 units to date, if the cost had
included a couple of dollars for software development, that money could
have been put to good use. Also adding to the comment on TI, if they don't
In order to support the $45 price tag, it was a bear bones
offering. Circuitco was paying for the Angstrom support but
the maintainer left Circuitco and went to another company.
TI supports mainline Linux, currently 3.12 and higher. We are moving in
that direction as fast as we can from the 3.3
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Mike Bremford m...@bfo.com wrote:
Aha, well that certainly explains it. Yes, I'd chip in to get cape support
added to one of Robert's more recent (3.12 or 3.13) kernels with stable USB.
Myself, I'd also be willing to pay slightly more per board (reasonable, as
On Monday, December 30, 2013 11:08:42 PM UTC+1, dave wrote:
Allow me to add my support (AKA 2 cents) to this thread. Noting elsewhere
that CircuitCo has shipped over 100,000 units to date, if the cost had
included a couple of dollars for software development, that money could
have been
I'll assume you mean Angstrom and Debian. Which just a factiod for those
who do not know already. Angstrom is pretty much already based on Debian.
Technically Debian - Open Zaurus - Angstrom is the fork path.
Moving to Debian personally makes total sense to me. Granted I've been
using Debian
Gerald, I find this very interesting.
So given the barebones target price of $45, it seems Marketting and Sales
have failed on the BBB totally, as if 100K BBB's have been sold now and
Circuitco is breakeven and Beagleboard.org doesnt make anything, then to me
it sounds like the project was/is a
On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 9:52:52 AM UTC+13, Gerald wrote:
Circuitco, breaks even, barely. Beagleboard.org makes no money at all.
TI, well they make a little of the chips, but provides no funding for
BeagleBoard.org.
Anyone willing to donate some funds so we can fund some SW
Terry,
I do realize you're mostly aiming your comments at Gerald but let me just
say that I think you missed a few key points.
1) This is not a Dell or common general purpose PC. So you can not expect
the same from such hardware. With that said, there is nothing wrong with
the hardware. It all
Den måndagen den 30:e december 2013 kl. 23:08:42 UTC+1 skrev dave:
Allow me to add my support (AKA 2 cents) to this thread. Noting elsewhere
that CircuitCo has shipped over 100,000 units to date, if the cost had
included a couple of dollars for software development, that money could
have
Hi William
As I said, I have no problem with the BBB hardware.
I am 100% referring to the software. If the software sucks then to the
average Joe Bloggs the hardware then also, well, sucks.
If Joe Bloggs buys a BBB and a cape made by the same company, and there is
a recommended software to go
From: Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
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Date: Monday, December 30, 2013 at 2:21 PM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
In order to support the $45 price
I designed the BBB. Other people design the capes. No capes come from
BeagleBoard.org. So feel free to rant, but facts do have a place in rants.
Gerald
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Terry Storm terrystor...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi William
As I said, I have no problem with the BBB hardware.
A part of this group interest me is about the rants
Nest Time ,if I have chance to be abroad , I will use the skill learned
from here
:)
2013/12/31 Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
I designed the BBB. Other people design the capes. No capes come from
BeagleBoard.org. So feel free to
just in case some of the folks here would like to educate themselves on
what beagleboard.org is:
http://www.beagleboard.org/about
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:11:57 PM UTC-6, liyaoshi wrote:
A part of this group interest me is about the rants
Nest Time ,if I have chance to be abroad ,
Come on , its just a joke
2013/12/31 David Anders danders@gmail.com
just in case some of the folks here would like to educate themselves on
what beagleboard.org is:
http://www.beagleboard.org/about
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:11:57 PM UTC-6, liyaoshi wrote:
A part of this
Well I for one am very glad of this hardware, including the software that
*does* work with it. Which is to say Debian runs flawlessly, GPIO works
fine, and all the other hardware through software works just fine. I would
not say that it is exactly the same experience you may get on PC Linux(
From: Terry Storm terrystor...@gmail.com
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Date: Monday, December 30, 2013 at 5:56 PM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
Hi William
As I said, I have no problem with the BBB hardware
Hi John
If I knew how to do that, I would be very happy indeed.
I have tried Debian, Ubuntu, Angstrom, Android 4.2.2, potentially other
distros too that had images available for the BBB, and all that I tried had
the same touch issue except Android which works for both the TI 3.2 Kernel
From: Terry Storm terrystor...@gmail.com
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Date: Monday, December 30, 2013 at 10:26 PM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
Hi John
If I knew how to do that, I would be very happy
I think most people make the mistake of thinking the BB and BBB are commercial
products with commercial-quality software. They also believe that the capes are
just plug-and-play. This board is not for novices. If you are interested in
learning electronics, both hardware and software, this is
Sounds like the perfect excuse to start learning.
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Terry Storm terrystor...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi
Thanks for the reply.
Yes I have tried contacting the manufacturers however one is
A little birdy told me that Angstrom has been abandoned for the BBB ??
If this is the case, and seems to be the case as there hasnt been an update
for the Angstrom image for the BBB for quite some time, and there are still
a number of issues with LCD CAPES which have not yet been resolved...
From: Terry Storm terrystor...@gmail.com
Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
A little birdy told me that Angstrom has been abandoned
Storm terrystor...@gmail.com
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Date: Monday, December 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
A little birdy told me that Angstrom has been abandoned for the BBB
: Monday, December 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
A little birdy told me that Angstrom has been abandoned for the BBB ??
If this is the case, and seems to be the case as there hasnt been an
update
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Subject: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant
A little birdy told me
Hi
Thanks for the reply.
Yes I have tried contacting the manufacturers however one is a hardware
only provider (4D) for the Capes (they fully support their other stuff),
and the other one (CircuitCo) which 4D Cares are based on according to
their datasheet, doesn't seem to support software and
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Terry Storm terrystor...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
Thanks for the reply.
Yes I have tried contacting the manufacturers however one is a hardware only
provider (4D) for the Capes (they fully support their other stuff), and the
other one (CircuitCo) which 4D Cares are
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