mherger wrote:
Yes i see that search with sporter terms . I do that when my longer
misspelled term won't work :) this only works with beginnings and
ends
of words ? What about symetric Google would ask did you mean
symmetric
Unfortunately fuzzy search is a whole different beast...
And everyone has - dar si moo .
Had to give it a try. You were right!
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Yes i see that search with sporter terms . I do that when my longer
misspelled term won't work :) this only works with beginnings and ends
of words ? What about symetric Google would ask did you mean
symmetric
Unfortunately fuzzy search is a whole different beast... you probably
should type
Mnyb wrote:
I must chime in and say that I actually prefer this over the old way of
searching :) and it's getting better all the time .
Next step does it support somewhat lax spelling ? Any forum reader are
all to familiar with my constant spelling errors me to !
Yew shud youse a spiel
I must chime in and say that I actually prefer this over the old way of
searching :) and it's getting better all the time .
Next step does it support somewhat lax spelling ? Any forum reader are
all to familiar with my constant spelling errors me to !
mherger wrote:
FWIW: I committed a bunch of changes/optimizations/improvements which
should be in tomorrow's builds. They should improve wirrunna's beet
symph 1 search considerably. Among many other cases.Michael
Wow, I don't need rabbit's ears (quotes) anymore! Also seems faster, and
kidstypike wrote:
Yew shud youse a spiel chucker :rolleyes:
I do with the wrong language and with any iThing you constantly hit b,n
or m instead of space :rolleyes:
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Mnyb wrote:
I must chime in and say that I actually prefer this over the old way of
searching :) and it's getting better all the time .
Next step does it support somewhat lax spelling ? Any forum reader are
all to familiar with my constant spelling errors me to !
Even with your spelling a
Yes I can find ol mt in artist Oliver Mtkudzi and sym orc finds
Toumani Diabates Symmetric Orchestra .
Yes i see that search with sporter terms . I do that when my longer
misspelled term won't work :) this only works with beginnings and ends
of words ? What about symetric Google would ask did
Phil's comments were based on a buggy version of the search.
Unfortunately he didn't verify his search after I fixed the sorting.
I thought I had replied. After you made a change, the search did indeed start
to return results in a better order.
The additional results added to the tail
The additional results added to the tail shouldn't hurt. Who cares about
the millions of hits google shows up for any random search? Most users
will check the first one or two pages and ignore the long tail.
Mostly true. With the most likely results at the top, it doesn't matter as
much that
A FTS for beet sym 5 returns the 4 different versions at the top of
the Albums results, but a search for beet sym 1 gets only one version
although there are 5 in the library.
Is there some kind of negative weighting for search results with 1 in
them ?
Ok, here's some of my findings:
- hits on
Michael, any thoughts on how (or if) you might be able to provide both
the old, simple substring searching and still make FTS available to
users? As Phil and myself discussed, the simple search is still the
preferred way to get to something without a lot of extraneous search
results. But FTS may
mherger wrote:
One suggestion for you would be to use no 1 (in quotes) in the search
term.
Michael
Quotes work. I had not tried them.
A search for - beet sym no. - lists all the symphonies.
moz pi 21 - goes straight there!
A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee.
Michael, any thoughts on how (or if) you might be able to provide both
the old, simple substring searching and still make FTS available to
users?
Thoughts, yes. I'll have to verify this, though. But I think if you
start your search by entering a quote, then the resulting query should
get very
mherger wrote:
Phil's comments were based on a buggy version of the search.
Unfortunately he didn't verify his search after I fixed the sorting. I'm
still convinced that if the weighting of the results is done correctly,
then the results of the fts should be as good as the simple text
A FTS for beet sym 5 returns the 4 different versions at the top of
the Albums results, but a search for beet sym 1 gets only one version
although there are 5 in the library.
Is there some kind of negative weighting for search results with 1 in
them ?
No negative weighting, but there indeed is
I've been kicking the tyres of FTS a bit more and noticed a peculiarity
that this quote applies to:
mherger wrote:
As Pippin mentioned it's much less of a full text vs. normal search
issue, rather than a how to bring the most relevant hit to the top
challenge.l
A FTS for beet sym 5
The commit on Jan 29th
(https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commits/public/7.9) appears to
have restored the FTS to its pre-Christmas function.
LMS 7.9.0 - 1422454553 @ Mon Feb 2
JJ, I suggest that you download a new version, re-enable the plugin and
try again.
A camel is a racehorse
Fulltext search is optional. Just disable the plugin if you don't like it.
I figured that out thanks, but I also added:
I see that I can disable full text search plugin to restore original
behaviour. It's a bit radical, because although I prefer the old behaviour
by default as this is
I typically use the basic search to find an artist or album, or all
recordings of a particular song. When I say find I don't mean it in
the sense of a search engine ... I use it as the quickest means of
getting to an artist or album. If I want to get to 'Miles Davis' I'll
typically enter 'miles d'
Is this the full text search in 7.9?
Maybe it is. Didn't realise that was going to be for normal searches. I
thought that was something to do with a new search option or advanced search
and the introduction of songs or albums results mode. Is there any way to turn
it off?
Perhaps not so
That said: it's just as weird to search for a category, usually with a
full-text search you would expect a result-agnostic search returning all
kind of results and then maybe a way to filter what you get. No need for
27 different search boxes in a UI, one would be just fine...
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Philip Meyer wrote:
I'm not convinced I like it too much, TBH. A useful feature to have,
but not as the default for Albums search.
Sure _you_ are not convinced. But believe me, those other 99.9% of users
out there just cried crap for the last 6 years because Squeezebox did
anything other
Maybe you could share your
library.db file with me, and I'll look in to the particularities of your
data once I'm back.
Sure, where would you like me to send it?
Send me a link to a downloadable file to michael ät slimdevices dott
com. Thanks!
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Hm, interesting thing about Love. Does that mean the band Love is
never going to be found or did I misunderstand something?
Ok, title was wrong/too simple. I meant to say album- or track-title
(for albums or tracks, respectively) or the artist name (for artists).
The value you'd find in the
Most likely it is. Your description sounds exactly like a FTS issue.
Yes, I'm sure that's it now I have had a play.
Perhaps not so bad if the search results with the search string in the title
were to appear at the top of the results
That _should_ be the case already. Are you running the
Hm, interesting thing about Love. Does that mean the band Love is
never going to be found or did I misunderstand something?
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Kind of remember these kind of issues from the infamous The The bug in
iPeng 1.0.1 (iPeng 1.0 at the time did already contain special handling
for The The but 1.0.1 re-introduced a bug that crashed the App if you
had an album by The The and the App Store comments still have some
references to
It's been mentioned in the forums
I don't remember many conversations about search in all the time I've
participated on the mailing list/forum.
it's probably the #1 argument of people telling me what a crappy,
outdated system the Squeezebox system is.
Really? Ridiculous!
In the example given
Sure _you_ are not convinced. But believe me, those other 99.9% of users
out there just cried crap for the last 6 years because Squeezebox did
anything other than full-text search.
I can't remember it being mentioned in the forum or bugzilla before.
I'm not against full text search, it will have
Philip Meyer wrote:
I can't remember it being mentioned in the forum or bugzilla before.
It's been mentioned in the forums, it ranks under the top 10 feature
requests I get for iPeng and - most importantly - it's probably the #1
argument of people telling me what a crappy, outdated system
Philip Meyer wrote:
I'm not convinced I like it too much, TBH. A useful feature to have,
but not as the default for Albums search.
Yeah, I tested Full Text Search for a while and eventually came to the
conclusion that I greatly prefer the simpler substring search behavior,
so I disabled the
Well, I used to! I still get a list of artists that have the word Rainbow in their name, and
Songs with Rainbow in their title. However, the Albums results includes albums where there are
songs that contain Rainbow, irrespective of the album title.
I think this is the result of a bug I
Fulltext search is optional. Just disable the plugin if you don't like it.
Am 28.01.2015 um 02:51 schrieb Phil Meyer s...@hergest.demon.co.uk:
It's been mentioned in the forums
I don't remember many conversations about search in all the time I've
participated on the mailing list/forum.
I think Michael will have to comment on the rules for sorting the
results. That's usually the complicated aspect of full text search,
getting the sorting right.
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Is this the full text search in 7.9?
Maybe it is.
Most likely it is. Your description sounds exactly like a FTS issue.
Perhaps not so bad if the search results with the search string in the title
were to appear at the top of the results
That _should_ be the case already. Are you running
Philip Meyer wrote:
In the example given for searching hurry love supremes such that Phil
Collins doesn't come up, what's the harm of searching for hurry
love...
For the third time: you are still arguing implementation details of
something that is in alpha state at best against a
Is this the full text search in 7.9?
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Philip Meyer wrote:
If I click the search button or press return, or go to Home Search
Albums search, it returns more than just the album title, looking also
at the songs on the album.
Under 7.9.0 - 141485 @ Sat Sep 20 04:01:29 UTC 2014 ist the same
behavior :confused:
Gruss
Jan
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