Re: [blfs-dev] cups and systemd

2014-04-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 01:51:07AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: This completes my current systemd build, apart from finding out how to persuade firefox-29 to install, Hah. Looks as if it needs nss-3.16, which is already in BLFS, but doesn't test for it. ĸen -- das eine Mal als Tragödie

[blfs-dev] dbus-launch instructions inadequate ?

2014-05-07 Thread Ken Moffat
I've now finished building everything on my current system (using what I call sysv, i.e. LFS with systemd, but using sysvinit). I figured I would need to test all the apps I actually use because of the reports of problems with gcc-4.9. My first runtime failure came from parole, which did

Re: [blfs-dev] Issues with GNOME

2014-05-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 11:34:20AM +1200, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, This is driving me absolutely insane. I am running systemd and after many re-installations have got gdm and gnome working correctly to some degree. Thanks to following Armin's notes for tweaking BLFS. I am now

Re: [blfs-dev] r13022 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib general/genutils general/graphlib general/prog general/sysutils gnome/applications introduction/welcome networking/netlibs networking/netutils p

2014-05-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 05:03:41PM +0200, Pierre Labastie wrote: I see that this is an interesting thread between Ken and Fernando, but I only receive Ken's mails. I also have seen some quoted answers of Bruce, that I hadn't received. Is it normal? I think you already know that is not how

Re: [blfs-dev] LibreOffice-4.2.3 SVN version configure line missing a couple of things

2014-05-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 01:37:26AM +1200, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, When I decided it was time to install LibreOffice I first tried the stable book version but it failed to compile (more on that in a bit), So I went to the later version, and notice that the --with-system-boost and

Re: [blfs-dev] LibreOffice-4.2.3 SVN version configure line missing a couple of things

2014-05-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 04:41:49PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 01:37:26AM +1200, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, When I decided it was time to install LibreOffice I first tried the stable book version but it failed to compile (more on that in a bit), So I went

Re: [blfs-dev] i686 lame fails to build for me

2014-05-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 08:01:24AM +0200, Pierre Labastie wrote: Have you tried Fernando's solution? (http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-dev/2014-April/027263.html). That is for gst-plugins-base, but I guess it may be adapted to lame. Pierre Thanks for the pointers. I

Re: [blfs-dev] i686 lame fails to build for me

2014-05-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 08:13:29AM +0200, Pierre Labastie wrote: Actually, for lame, one possible solution is in this post: http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-dev/2014-April/027260.html Thanks. I'll be trying sed -i -e '/xmmintrin\.h/d' configure ĸen -- das eine Mal als

Re: [blfs-dev] i686 gst-base, was i686 lame fails to build for me

2014-05-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 07:00:14PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 25-05-2014 18:56, Fernando de Oliveira escreveu: packgnamewithpkgversion-i686_gcc_4_9_0-1.patch After Bruce's post: packgnamewithpkgversion-gcc_4_9_0_i686-1.patch Yes, how could I forget that the internal

Re: [blfs-dev] Texlive bin [Was: ... r13182 ...]

2014-05-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 08:46:15PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Sorry, it was suppose to be sent to to dev. Em 27-05-2014 20:08, ferna...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org escreveu: Author: fernando Date: Tue May 27 16:08:37 2014 New Revision: 13182 Log: Fixes to install-tl-unx,.

Re: [blfs-dev] FireFox 29.0.1

2014-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 11:28:29AM +1200, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello Ken, One of the main sites for me is sourceforge. I have been visiting it regularly and with the adds that they have and the scripts that they have, when scrolling down to actually get to one of the downloads, that

Re: [blfs-dev] FireFox 29.0.1

2014-06-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 07:27:05PM +0200, thorsten wrote: I see you mentioning cairo and I fail to notice how cairo would crash firefox because firefox uses its bundled one by default unless you specify --enable-system-cairo, which is commented out in the book. Did you enable that one?

Re: [blfs-dev] FireFox 29.0.1

2014-06-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 10:29:55AM +1200, Christopher Gregory wrote: Well I don't know if it will ever be narrowed down, as it appears to be one of these random things that affect some and not others. I have a: model name : Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz centino

Re: [blfs-dev] bash script

2014-06-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 11:16:32AM +1200, Christopher Gregory wrote: It is really weird that the times do vary between runs of the script. On a non-realtime OS you should always expect _some_ variation. If you look in 'top', even on a system without 'cron' or 'at' there will be a lot of

Re: [blfs-dev] texlive-20130530

2014-06-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 01:06:54AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Reading the text of this page says: A binary version of the TeX Live package is installed at install-tl-unx. Here, we use that to rebuild the compiled programs from source. ... These instructions will overwrite the corresponding

Re: [blfs-dev] [BLFS Trac] #5155: xulrunner/firefox-30.0

2014-06-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 07:49:16AM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: ĸen, It failed for me, too, then I found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977400 and commented out --enable-shared-js in the book. Please, don-t trash the system. I was just going to as you to try

Re: [blfs-dev] patches r2920 - trunk/icedtea

2014-06-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:23:46PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 25-06-2014 16:46, pie...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org escreveu: Author: pierre Date: Wed Jun 25 12:46:52 2014 New Revision: 2920 Log: Regenerate cacerts patch for icedtea Added:

Re: [blfs-dev] Testfiles to prove TeX is working

2014-06-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:18:31AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: All of these, except for encyclopedium, are single pages (if you use A4). Encyclopedium produces 4 pages (if it works) - for me it works on last year's binary install on top of BLFS-7.5, now I need to find out if I still have

Re: [blfs-dev] Finding libraries which are dlopen()ed

2014-06-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 03:12:25PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: scanelf, from pax-utils: http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/pax-utils-0.8.1.tar.xz scanelf -BF %f: %n I build with: sed -i /^PKGDOCDIR/ s/pax-utils/-0.8.1/ Makefile make USE_CAP=yes make USE_PYTHON='yes'

Re: [blfs-dev] Finding libraries which are dlopen()ed

2014-06-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 07:40:40PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 03:12:25PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: scanelf, from pax-utils: http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/pax-utils-0.8.1.tar.xz scanelf -BF %f: %n I build with: sed -i /^PKGDOCDIR

Re: [blfs-dev] Finding libraries which are dlopen()ed

2014-06-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 07:29:11PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Quick question: anyone know of any programs, or libraries, which dlopen a library (ignoring PAM, which my searches found - I do not build that) ? $ grep dlopen /usr/lib/*.so Binary file libGL.so matches

Re: [blfs-dev] Finding libraries which are dlopen()ed

2014-06-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 01:59:39AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: From that, I guess that anything using libdl.so.2 will need further investigation. For my current problem-space (Saturday's install-tl-unx) that identifies biber, dvisvgm, luajitex, luatex, xdvi-xaw, xindy.run. I guess I can use

Re: [blfs-dev] Possible BLFS systemd solution

2014-07-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Jul 05, 2014 at 03:43:07PM +0200, Armin K. wrote: On 06/29/2014 09:55 PM, Armin K. wrote: Only thing that would change for editors is to make sure they use chapter.xml.systemv or chapter.xml.systemd instead of chapter.xml for inclusion of new packages. Comments? It has

Re: [blfs-dev] libvdpau-0.8

2014-07-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 08:23:04PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: In ticket #5232 libvdpau-0.8 is specified as a new version. I can build it and 'make check' runs without problem. I'll update the package if I can figure out how to test it. How do I know it it's being used and if it's working

Re: [blfs-dev] Testing GPG, please ignore

2014-07-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 06:04:05PM +0200, Armin K. wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. I'm still new to this stuff so it will take time for me to get used to it (signing, verifying and such). Also, I'm unable to verify your key from any keyserver. It seems like it's stuck fetching it

Re: [blfs-dev] firefox-31.0

2014-07-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 05:45:41PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Seems reasonable. I haven't seen your change, but I hope you mention the security issues openssl has had recently. AFAIK, only the current (as of today) version of openssl should be used. It went in just now, before I read your

Re: [blfs-dev] xulrunner/firefox-31.0 [Was: ... #5155: xulrunner/firefox-30.0]

2014-07-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:16:37AM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 12-06-2014 14:22, Armin K. wrote: Comment (by Krejzi): Thanks for the heads up Fernando. I will try building standalone version of Firefox and see if it will solve my problem. FYI, this is the most recent

Re: [blfs-dev] xulrunner/firefox-31.0 [Was: ... #5155: xulrunner/firefox-30.0]

2014-07-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 05:10:06PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Thanks for the reply. It works for me, too. But it is the other way round: Does FF linked to Xulrunner behave like the standalone one? Not for me: no restored tabs, customize button does not work, no sync button under

Re: [blfs-dev] Patch For nfs-utils 1.3.0 gcc 4.9.x users

2014-07-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:46:53AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 11:45:46PM +1200, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, I have just had confirmation that a patch that I located to fix run-time segfaults when mounting remote shares using nfs-utils-1.3.0

Re: [blfs-dev] [lfs-patches] r2957 - trunk/nfs-utils

2014-07-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 11:06:21AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: c...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Author: cjg Date: Sun Jul 27 04:18:13 2014 New Revision: 2957 Log: Just added a patch for nfs-utils that fixes run-time segfaults when using gcc 4.9.x. Added:

[blfs-dev] /etc/logrotate.conf nomail option

2014-08-01 Thread Ken Moffat
I'm just updating my build scripts. For years I have used a simple script to do log rotation, so now I am going to try the logrotate package. Looking at the creation of /etc/logrotate.conf we have the following: # Don't send mail to anybody nomail I read that comment as logrotate should not

Re: [blfs-dev] /etc/logrotate.conf nomail option

2014-08-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 12:16:31AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: I'm just updating my build scripts. For years I have used a simple script to do log rotation, so now I am going to try the logrotate package. Looking at the creation of /etc/logrotate.conf we have the following

Re: [blfs-dev] /etc/logrotate.conf nomail option

2014-08-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 08:27:02AM +0100, akhiezer wrote: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 00:54:07 +0100 From: Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com To: blfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Subject: [blfs-dev] /etc/logrotate.conf nomail option I'm just updating my build scripts. For years I have

Re: [blfs-dev] /etc/logrotate.conf nomail option

2014-08-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 03:30:20PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I'm believing the man page (I have not even built the package), which is why I would prefer the comment to say # Don't mail logs to anybody Seems reasonable. -- Bruce OK, I'll do it while 3.16.0 is building. ĸen -- Nanny

[blfs-dev] libsigc++-2.3.2 breaks inkscape

2014-08-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On my current system (20140803), inkscape-0.48.5 failed to build against libsigc++-2.3.2 : /usr/include/sigc++-2.0/sigc++/visit_each.h:169:64: error: cannot convert ‘const sigc::adaptor_functorsigc::bound_mem_functor0void, SPDesktop ’ to ‘int’ in initialization

Re: [blfs-dev] libsigc++-2.3.2 breaks inkscape

2014-08-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:43:35PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: I've no idea where you found libsigc++ development (google seems not to know), but that patch fixed the build for me. Looking at the inkscape lists, it looks as if 0.91-pre2 [ a development pre-release ] might be out soon, but I

Re: [blfs-dev] [lfs-patches] r2972 - trunk/libsigc++

2014-08-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:16:40PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:47:48PM +0200, Armin K. wrote: Wasn't it easier/simpler to use a sed? Not for me - I needed to test that this fixed it, and the easier way was to take the commit as a patch. Will look at sed later

Re: [blfs-dev] [lfs-patches] r2972 - trunk/libsigc++

2014-08-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 04:04:59PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:47:48PM +0200, Armin K. wrote: Wasn't it easier/simpler to use a sed? Not for me - I needed to test that this fixed it, and the easier way was to take the commit as a patch

Re: [blfs-dev] Glamor

2014-08-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 01:12:58AM -0700, Nathan Coulson wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Kaveri processor here, using RadeonSI w/ glamor. Using pre xorg 1.16 glamor, 2d text rendering would take 1-2 seconds to draw a urxvt window. Now w/ xserver 1.16, nice and fast, but there is a bug w

[blfs-dev] TeX without the binary - first (poor) progress report

2014-08-22 Thread Ken Moffat
So, I had a first attempt at building and installing TeX Live without the binary, using my existing commands for the main part of the build, and to build for asymptote. Based on Robby Workman's SlackBuild which I referred to earlier this week (and yes, it turns out that _was_ referred to in the

[blfs-dev] TeX without the binary - second (better) progress report

2014-08-22 Thread Ken Moffat
OK, ./Build is not _too_ terrifying. But the docs, as with all projects, are perhaps a little out of date. I've now built, and installed, the 'basic' parts of TeX Live [ no asymptote, no xindy, and certainly no biber ]. Latex and lualatex work. On this occasion, I installed texmf first,

Re: [blfs-dev] TeX without the binary - second (better) progress report

2014-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:22:37PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 03:19:32AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: From that, I surmise that it OUGHT to be possible to build the way we currently do (configure, configure asymptote, make. make asymptote, check, check asymptote

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:42:46PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: Hi everyone, Fernando has asked me to start a discussion here first. With icedtea-web not being dependant on latest versions of xulrunner but npapi-sdk, this leaves no package that really needs Xulrunner besides

[blfs-dev] RFC : TeX Changes

2014-08-26 Thread Ken Moffat
Unless trunk's 7.6 is severely delayed, this proposal is for 7.7 : among other things, I need to check some things on a clean system (with all the known deps but not too much else, and certainly no addiitional perl), and for the new packages I will need to find out more details before I'm ready

Re: [blfs-dev] RFC : TeX Changes

2014-08-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:48:40AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: Unless trunk's 7.6 is severely delayed, this proposal is for 7.7 : among other things, I need to check some things on a clean system (with all the known deps but not too much else, and certainly no addiitional perl), and for the new

[blfs-dev] libpapersize, /etc/libpaper.d, runparts [ re #5454 ]

2014-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
I must have been very bad at some time, everything I touch is coming back to bite me. Or, perhaps TeX just causes bad things ;) I've reopened #5454 because I'm doing some TeX related things, such as improving my acceptance-tests, and I needed to confirm if a change there would be ok with a

Re: [blfs-dev] libpapersize, /etc/libpaper.d, runparts [ re #5454 ]

2014-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 05:56:34PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: I originally added /etc/libpaper.d/ because libpapersize apparently expects other packages to put scripts there. So far, the only references to that directory which I have found, apart from in libpapersize

Re: [blfs-dev] libpapersize, /etc/libpaper.d, runparts [ re #5454 ]

2014-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 12:26:42AM +0100, akhiezer wrote: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 22:51:22 +0100 From: Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com To: blfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Subject: [blfs-dev] libpapersize, /etc/libpaper.d, runparts [ re #5454 ] Are you looking for a run-parts

Re: [blfs-dev] libpapersize, /etc/libpaper.d, runparts [ re #5454 ]

2014-09-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 12:48:59AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 05:56:34PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: So, should I just remove /etc/papersize ? I don't think so. From the man page: run-parts runs all the executable files named within

Re: [blfs-dev] libpapersize, /etc/libpaper.d, runparts [ re #5454 ]

2014-09-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:41:44AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 12:48:59AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 05:56:34PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Since there are no options, it would be easy to create a script to do run-parts. What does

Re: [blfs-dev] question about Installed Programs

2014-09-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:54:32PM +0200, Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi all, We sometimes install a small executable script with a package (I am thinking of mkcacerts for OpenJDK). Should we list it in Installed Programs? Regards, Pierre Why not ? If it is listed AND has an index entry,

[blfs-dev] ARCH reference in tl-installer

2014-09-05 Thread Ken Moffat
ISTR that when I first touched the texlive installer, I changed its page to say : The programs are always installed in an ARCH-linux subdirectory. Fernando later noticed that on i686 the directory is called i386-linux, so the next sentence now says: Always replace ARCH by x86_64, for 64bit, or

Re: [blfs-dev] lxdm : bootscript ?

2014-09-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 12:49:38AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Right. There is a boot script for ldxm in svn: bootscripts/blfs/init.d/lxdm. Ah, yes. Added this month, but as of yesterday the book still references 20140827. And should we not suggest installing the bootscript on the lxdm

Re: [blfs-dev] lxdm : bootscript ?

2014-09-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 12:02:21PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 07-09-2014 11:42, Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 12:49:38AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Right. There is a boot script for ldxm in svn: bootscripts/blfs/init.d/lxdm. Ah, yes. Added this month

[blfs-dev] install-tl-unx : final change to support scripts which read xml ?

2014-09-07 Thread Ken Moffat
I'm aware that the instructions for install-tl-unx begin: tar -xf install-tl-unx.tar.gz cd install-tl-CCYYMMDD because the installer will get updated from time to time during the 2014 texlive year, and this presumably breaks jhalfs. But I've just had a thought: normally, we assume that the

Re: [blfs-dev] install-tl-unx : final change to support scripts which read xml ?

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 01:04:25PM +0100, David Brodie wrote: On 08/09/14 09:16, Pierre Labastie wrote: Second, even if a version were added to the title, since the installation process is interactive, installation cannot be automated anyway. I'm not volunteering, but it's reasonably

Re: [blfs-dev] install-tl-unx : final change to support scripts which read xml ?

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 10:16:34AM +0200, Pierre Labastie wrote: As the only user (known to me ;-) ) of jhalfs for BLFS, I feel I should answer something... I believe that Wayne uses something similar (processing the XML), but I might be wrong. [...] I guess the conclusion is that the

[blfs-dev] lxde : recursive dependency ?

2014-09-10 Thread Ken Moffat
I appear to have hit a recursive dependency - menu-cache-0.7.0 wants libfm-extra.pc which probably comes from libfm-1.2.2.1. I cannot prove if that does provide it, because libfm requires menu-cache. If my assumption is wrong, what provides libfm-extra, please ? If my assumption is right,

Re: [blfs-dev] P11-kit odd minor

2014-09-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 05:58:21PM +1200, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, Just came across something when updating to the latest p11-kit. In the xml it says that only even minors should be used. Is it okay to include odd minors, or is the directive in the xml no longer valid?

Re: [blfs-dev] The Editors Guide

2014-09-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 06:06:58PM +1200, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, I know that this has low priority with new releases due, but at some point would it be possible to go through the Editors guide and update it to what we currently do with regards to the book. I know that Ken and

Re: [blfs-dev] lxde : recursive dependency ?

2014-09-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 07:11:12PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: I think you are right. Will investigate what I can do. Day was miserable, when I solved the technical problems, other particular ones took my time, only now I am back. I knew about a possible dificulty here, but

Re: [blfs-dev] lxde : recursive dependency ?

2014-09-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 01:22:47AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: I knew about a possible dificulty here, but was wanting to solve more easily in 7.6-rc1, with all new. But think I succeeded to do it in my old dev system. First you need to install libfm using: ./configure

Re: [blfs-dev] lxde : recursive dependency ?

2014-09-11 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 02:50:48AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 01:22:47AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: Thanks, I'll give that a go - maybe not tonight (I'm trying to catch up with two cycle races from Wednesday's TV, building texlive (from source, with texmf) and biber

[blfs-dev] DVD playing problems (parole, gstreamer-1.4)

2014-09-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On 7.6 I'm having problems playing DVDs. My drive shows up as /dev/sr0, and has a /dev/cdrom symlink but not /dev/dvd : that much is not new. As I've previously noted, vlc is unusable for playng DVDs - plays a few seconds, then pauses for a few seconds - but it works enough to show that

[blfs-dev] Xorg segfaults

2014-09-16 Thread Ken Moffat
This was going to be a question for help about why, 3 times in the last 4 days, I've left this system (running lxdm, logged in to xfce) and come back to the login screen. I've proved that it isn't happening every time xscreensaver cuts in, ConsoleKit is running, but I have avoided PAM. But

Re: [blfs-dev] tcl8.6.2

2014-09-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 04:29:28PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 16-09-2014 12:49, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Fernando de Oliveira wrote: The reason I modified it, was not just because I wanted to. During the discussions (dev and ticket, IIRC), it was mentioned not only once that

Re: [blfs-dev] tcl8.6.2

2014-09-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 01:29:25PM +0200, Igor Živković wrote: On 09/17/2014 04:38 AM, Ken Moffat wrote: I apparently pissed off Igor with my Mesa suggestions, because he only altered one part You certainly did not piss me off. I thought I've fixed it by using one of your suggestions

Re: [blfs-dev] tcl8.6.2

2014-09-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 04:39:25PM +0200, Igor Živković wrote: On 09/17/2014 04:33 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 01:29:25PM +0200, Igor Živković wrote: On 09/17/2014 04:38 AM, Ken Moffat wrote: I apparently pissed off Igor with my Mesa suggestions, because he only altered

Re: [blfs-dev] ***SPAM*** Re: Status report

2014-09-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 09:27:10PM +0200, Pierre Labastie wrote: As already said, done too. I'll take libreoffice, at and autofs. Pierre I thought I had already tagged libreoffice, along with a couple of the packages which were mentioned as 'already done' in the list I've cut. Sorry for

[blfs-dev] Redland: references to Soprano, Nepomuk ?

2014-09-21 Thread Ken Moffat
I see that the redland instructions say: Redland is a set of free software C libraries that provide support for the Resource Description Framework (RDF). It is required by Soprano to build Nepomuk. That last sentence refers to packages that are no longer in the book, I think ? I believe they

Re: [blfs-dev] Redland: references to Soprano, Nepomuk ?

2014-09-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:23:19AM +0200, Armin K. wrote: On 22.09.2014 00:17, Ken Moffat wrote: I see that the redland instructions say: Redland is a set of free software C libraries that provide support for the Resource Description Framework (RDF). It is required by Soprano to build

[blfs-dev] Postgresql

2014-09-21 Thread Ken Moffat
This may very well be a local problem of my own, in which case feel free to disregard it. But at the moment it looks to me as if the book's instructions will not work as written for a fresh install. When I first started playing with postgresql (back in the days when I hoped to transfer a large

Re: [blfs-dev] Some outstanding issues

2014-09-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:42:56PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Although I released BLFS yesterday, there are some outstanding issues that need to be addressed. 1. LXDM has some functionality problems: a. The shutdown/power off buttons don't work properly. If selected they appear to

[blfs-dev] Weird failure when testing the outer reaches of TeX.

2014-09-28 Thread Ken Moffat
I think I must have been a very bad person in a previous existence, which has led to me being reincarnated for this life as someone who would eventually care about TeX. [ yeah, I'm still reading discworld, and I was starting to think that sort of explanation provided the only plausible basis for

Re: [blfs-dev] Wireless Tools and CardBus

2014-10-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 11:10:02AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: To me, in 2014, a _modern_ laptop is extremely unlikely to be using PCMCIA or YENTA. Or am I, again, totally mistaken ? I can see that PCCARD _might_ be needed for machines without PCMCIA, but I do not have

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r14514 - trunk/BOOK/xsoft/graphweb

2014-10-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:30:38PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: i...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Log: restore note about SHELL envar in firefox instructions + If you are compiling applicationFirefox/application in chroot, make + sure you have envar$SHELL/envar environment

Re: [blfs-dev] Adding new gnome-games section and aisleriot optional packages

2014-10-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 05:59:29PM +1300, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, I am throwing this open to suggestions/discussions as the gnome developers have put in a big fat warning. if test $with_clutter = yes; then # Distro packagers: DO NOT ENABLE AISLERIOT/CLUTTER IN YOUR DISTRO

[blfs-dev] libreoffice : unit tests being run in 4.3.1.2 make build

2014-10-12 Thread Ken Moffat
For the moment, I'm still on the 7.6 versions of everything, while I try to complete my build on my netbook. Using 'make build', libreoffice failed on this machine after more than 42 hours :-( I thought 'make build' was supposed to turn off the unit tests ? The log shows nothing

[blfs-dev] Questions about texlive

2014-10-12 Thread Ken Moffat
I'm getting ready to add the *real* from-source texlive build to the book, using the texmf tarball to provide 3.6GB of scripts and docs. But I've got a couple of questions: 1. Where do we encourage people to keep their source tarballs ? I'm guessing /sources but I might be wrong. The reason

Re: [blfs-dev] Questions about texlive

2014-10-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 05:59:45PM +0200, Armin K. wrote: On 10/13/2014 05:05 AM, Ken Moffat wrote: I'm getting ready to add the *real* from-source texlive build to the book, using the texmf tarball to provide 3.6GB of scripts and docs. But I've got a couple of questions: I'll reply

Re: [blfs-dev] Questions about texlive

2014-10-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:11:12AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: There is no problem with setting it up one way, evaluating, and making changes. It helps to have an initial version to do constructive critiques. I've copied the book as at r14599, and made a first working copy. I'll have a look

Re: [blfs-dev] Questions about texlive

2014-10-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 09:41:40PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 05:59:45PM +0200, Armin K. wrote: On 10/13/2014 05:05 AM, Ken Moffat wrote: 2. When building texlive without a pre-existing tex installation, the build has to be done twice: first time, a few parts (asy

Re: [blfs-dev] libreoffice : unit tests being run in 4.3.1.2 make build

2014-10-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:49:35PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: For the moment, I'm still on the 7.6 versions of everything, while I try to complete my build on my netbook. Using 'make build', libreoffice failed on this machine after more than 42 hours :-( I thought 'make build

Re: [blfs-dev] Questions about texlive

2014-10-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 03:30:25PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:18:23AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: [ just replying to your comments, so I'll cut the rest ] 3. texlive... -texmf The required scripts and docs. With a big

Re: [blfs-dev] Weird Characters when first opening epiphany

2014-10-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 03:24:58PM +1300, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, I have attached a partial screen-shot of what I get when I open epiphany. I am suspecting that it is some sort of encoding issue with the initial start document of epiphany. I have $LANG set to: en_NZ.utf8

Re: [blfs-dev] SBU times using multiple cores

2014-10-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:45:06AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Kenneth Harrison wrote: The build and install of binutils in Chapter 5.4 is set at 1.0 SBU as a baseline for your calculation needs. Usage of the listed time command per the example given should give you an approximate time frame

Re: [blfs-dev] seamonkey

2014-11-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 12:53:33AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I'm trying to build seamonkey-2.30 on an older 686 running a 2 year old version of LFS. After about 3.5 hours, the build crashed with messages like: jsapi.cpp:(.text+0x1db8): undefined reference to `u_init_52' but there are a

Re: [blfs-dev] seamonkey

2014-11-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 10:35:04AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: It was late last night, but I had seen that reference. I rebuilt SM with 'ac_add_options --without-intl-api' because I really didn't want to take the time to build icu and I don't need any i18n on that system. This morning it had

Re: [blfs-dev] kdepim-4.14.3 build failure with boost-1.57.0

2014-11-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 04:24:16PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 14-11-2014 14:11, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 13-11-2014 23:02, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 13-11-2014 19:24, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Fernando de Oliveira

Re: [blfs-dev] libmusicbrainz-5.1.0 library name has been changed

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 08:23:03PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 29-11-2014 20:02, Christopher Gregory wrote: Well its come to this. I will no longer report anything that I find does not compile. What people here are failing to realise is that they are not actually building

Re: [blfs-dev] libmusicbrainz-5.1.0 library name has been changed

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 02:49:55AM +, Ken Moffat wrote: I think I'll be devoting my BLFS time to doing builds in fresh systems. Some of this will be in qemu, where for me a lot of things are pointless (e.g. audio, video, power management, fcron, postfix), and there are as always a lot

Re: [blfs-dev] qemu

2014-11-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 02:40:30PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Lfs User wrote: To use -net nic -net tap (bridging) with qemu as a user I had to also: chgrp kvm /sbin/ip /usr/sbin/brctl /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 setcap cap_net_admin=eip /usr/sbin/brctl setcap cap_net_admin=eip

Re: [blfs-dev] qemu

2014-12-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 11:52:51AM +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 01/12/2014 11:37, Pierre Labastie a écrit : Le 01/12/2014 04:11, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Let's say you are on machine A and want to run qemu (virtual system C) on machine B. If you want to ssh into the qemu system, how do the

Re: [blfs-dev] qemu

2014-12-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 05:22:54PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: I was just searching for something else, and came across http://wiki.qemu.org/Features-Done/HelperNetworking - not sure if the 'Setup' section there [ /etc/qemu/bridge.conf ] will help. That's interesting

Re: [blfs-dev] qemu

2014-12-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27:34PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Great links. I'll test after bit. I'm currently rebuilding LFS on my qemu test system so I need to wait till that is done. It's currently running the gcc tests. I don't want to throw off the timing measurements. Sure. My

Re: [blfs-dev] qemu

2014-12-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 11:39:01PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:27:34PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I can ping outside and from the outside, I can ping the vm. Nice! ĸen -- Nanny Ogg usually went to bed early. After all, she was an old lady

Re: [blfs-dev] qemu

2014-12-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 10:40:39PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: At the moment my test-builds have stalled while I learn a bit more about graphics drivers for BLFS in a qemu guest. I think I'll be proposing that we build the modesetting driver instead of cirrus, but I need

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg video drivers (and related matters) for qemu

2014-12-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 12:06:21AM +, Ken Moffat wrote: I'll need to look at what I'm options using to build Mesa in qemu. Words order wrong in. How on earth did I send that ? I'll need to look at what options I'm using. -- Nanny Ogg usually went to bed early. After all, she

Re: [blfs-dev] Texlive and current svn

2014-12-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 08:54:04PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: There is also the problem with Valgrind failing when using pdfxmltex during 'make download-docs' (#5882) which Christopher reported. Now that I have downloaded the valgrind source, I find that was already broken in LFS/BLFS-7.6

Re: [blfs-dev] Kernel Configuration conventions

2014-12-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Dec 06, 2014 at 12:08:39PM +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi, I think I am done with the uniformization of the layout for Kernel Configuration instructions. Question: Should we add a paragraph to Conventions Used in this Book? What I fear is that in some cases, depending of other

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