Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 02:13:36AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > 4.1 oxygen-fonts - they now actually ship the fonts, it is not > necessary to build them! In an ideal world that would make > fontforge unnecessary (except for specialists), but ISTR there is a > ticket say ing the oxygen - icons

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 01:31:24AM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote: > > > On 08/12/2016 08:13 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > 4.2 Noto Fonts. > > > > 4.2.1 I submit that installing all of Noto-hinted is a waste of > > space. Many of the fonts are for historical writing systems for > > which none of us

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 11:13:11PM -0400, Paul Hentschel wrote: On 08/13/2016 06:36 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: With reluctance, yes. But the link to fireflysung is dead. I'll think about rewording that whole part of the page for 7.10. Do you have a new link? I downloaded it

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: On 08/12/2016 08:13 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: 2.2.2 A few linux-oriented fonts come in tarballs, but many others come in zip files - we should mention using unzip. And we should warn people th at some of them extract in to the current directory. Yes, general rule of thumb,

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 01:31:24AM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote: > > On 08/12/2016 08:13 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > > Now that I have updated my own website (linked from > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/x/xorg-config.html as > > the 'font-analysis' link at the end of "Xft Font Protocol" I

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 09:17:38PM -0500, Douglas R. Reno wrote: > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > > > Alternatively, does anybody here actually install the windows fonts? > >> > > > > Not me. > > > > -- Bruce > > > > I do. I need Times New

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-13 Thread Douglas R. Reno
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 04:44:10PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >>> Ken Moffat wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:32:47PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:32:47PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > You are the expert on fonts, so I defer to your judgement about what to say. > As for where they would go, would it be appropriate to have a separate > section like we do for Icons? Or would that be overkill?

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:55:24PM -0500, William Harrington wrote: > On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 22:32:47 -0500 > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > I'd like to see a mention of terminus fonts. I find them very useful for > > the console when a display manager is not used. My personal

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-12 Thread William Harrington
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 22:32:47 -0500 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I'd like to see a mention of terminus fonts. I find them very useful for > the console when a display manager is not used. My personal preference is > ter-128n. Otherwise the default glyphs are very tiny. I

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: Proposal (to address parts 2 to 4) __ I suggest that we ought to provide a new page with general coverage of TTF/OTF fonts, replacing the Xft Font Protocol section and listing alternate modern fonts for CJK languages and otherwise not going

[blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-08-12 Thread Ken Moffat
Now that I have updated my own website (linked from http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/x/xorg-config.html as the 'font-analysis' link at the end of "Xft Font Protocol" I would like to make some suggestions about how we handle fonts, as well as specific suggestions re the fonts used in

[blfs-dev] Fonts for plasma

2016-03-04 Thread Ken Moffat
As should already be apparent, I *like* TTF/OTF fonts. But having too many causes pain when trying to select a specific font, e.g. in a writer document, so from time to time I add some fonts for a specific purpose, and then remove them again. And it appears that each noto variant is a separate

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: On 27/02/2016 02:49, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Oh, and isn't testing wonderful, now that we have so many packages in the book ? It would be a lot easier if we had more testers. From my perspective, I'd like someone independent to test gcc, java, all of

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-27 Thread Pierre Labastie
On 27/02/2016 02:49, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> Oh, and isn't testing wonderful, now that we have so many packages >> in the book ? > > It would be a lot easier if we had more testers. From my perspective, I'd > like someone independent to test gcc, java, all of typesetting,

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 26-02-2016 22:49, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: Ken Moffat wrote: Oh, and isn't testing wonderful, now that we have so many packages in the book ? It would be a lot easier if we had more testers. From my perspective, I'd like someone independent to test gcc, java,

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-27 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 26-02-2016 22:49, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: > Ken Moffat wrote: >> Oh, and isn't testing wonderful, now that we have so many packages >> in the book ? > > It would be a lot easier if we had more testers. From my perspective, > I'd like someone independent to test gcc, java, all of typesetting,

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:23:54PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Looking at ark-15.12.1, it says set(QT_MIN_VERSION 5.4.0) set(KF5_MIN_VERSION 5.6.0) So yes, it is qt5 only. Thanks, I still find cmake almost impenetrable (I used to find it totally

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:23:54PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > Looking at ark-15.12.1, it says > > set(QT_MIN_VERSION 5.4.0) > set(KF5_MIN_VERSION 5.6.0) > > So yes, it is qt5 only. > Thanks, I still find cmake almost impenetrable (I used to find it totally impenetrable -

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: Now, ark still fails: CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:41 (find_package): Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5" (requested version 5.4.0) with any of the following names: Qt5Config.cmake qt5-config.cmake Add the installation prefix of

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 07:49:06PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > >Oh, and isn't testing wonderful, now that we have so many packages > >in the book ? > > It would be a lot easier if we had more testers. From my perspective, I'd > like someone independent to test gcc, java, all of typesetting,

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 05:54:00PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I've started looking at kf5-5-19.0. One thing I found was a message: frameworkintegration uses Noto Sans (https://www.google.com/get/noto/) and Oxygen Mono

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 01:37:58AM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > I assume that part is all fixed now, but ere seemed to be a lot of > different subsets of the fonts - for limited languages. For some reason, this keyboard sometimes misses keypresses, or installs tabs at the start of a line. s/ ere

Re: [blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 05:54:00PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've started looking at kf5-5-19.0. One thing I found was a message: > > frameworkintegration uses Noto Sans (https://www.google.com/get/noto/) and > Oxygen Mono >

[blfs-dev] Fonts

2016-02-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've started looking at kf5-5-19.0. One thing I found was a message: frameworkintegration uses Noto Sans (https://www.google.com/get/noto/) and Oxygen Mono (http://download.kde.org/stable/plasma/5.4.0/oxygen-fonts-5.4.0.tar.xz) fonts, ensure these are installed for use at runtime") We