Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-21 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I promise this is my last post on this subject. After much time and effort, I found the scripts. They create the .warc format by default using wget, but the scripts can easily be modified. That's left as an exercise for someone else. Here is the Archive Team link. The scripts are on github and

Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-21 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I'm changing the subject for clarity. On 4/18/2017 7:28 AM, John G Heim wrote: I look at the debate over whether it is better to have a distro for the blind or to work on improving mainstream distros like the debate over barley versus wheat beers. Personally, I prefer barley beers over any and

Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-21 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
You're welcome. It's actually archive.org. The plural form is a different site. I've found that if in doubt, try IA first. Even if you don't find what you want, you're bound to find something interesting. I hadn't actually searched for fanfiction in years. It's nice having old archives. There

Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-21 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
First, it's archive.org. If you went to the plural form, no wonder why you didn't find anything. On 4/18/2017 7:55 AM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote: Any tips for getting around archives.org? Somebody recommended it to me a few weeks ago, so I gave it a quick shot. I was looking for old-time radio

Re: spammers on this list

2017-04-19 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Would you be able to leave the 'display name' part of the original 'From' reserved / conserved / untouched? guenter Am 18.04.2017 um 20:13 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > Since stopping archiving of blinux-list didn't stop spammer, we have > proof that spammer is a subs

Re: spammers on this list

2017-04-19 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Thanks, Hans. This should help! Am 18.04.2017 um 20:13 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > Since stopping archiving of blinux-list didn't stop spammer, we have > proof that spammer is a subscriber of blinux-list. > Now I'm hiding sender email address of a message to bl

Re: spammers on this list

2017-04-18 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Since stopping archiving of blinux-list didn't stop spammer, we have proof that spammer is a subscriber of blinux-list. Now I'm hiding sender email address of a message to blinux list, replacing it with the list address. This should stop email address harvesting and spamming. Best Regards

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-19 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Why are you so opposed to Ubuntu as a base? I found it easier to build my talking rescue CD than Debian. In fact, it runs on 15.10 core if memory serves. I've had very good luck with Ubuntu MATE, again far better than with MATE installed in Debian stable due to the faster release cycle. Yes,

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Le 23/04/2017 à 11:25, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit : > Your name isn't showing up for some reason. You make some good > arguments. Comments below. Because the Mailing admin made it disappear to avoid massive spams users received indi(idually after posting here. > On 4/

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
On 4/18/2017 8:23 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: here is one thing that might be distro independent: create an accessibility package set. This would include the required libs, scripts, binaries and config files needed to make any distro accessible. It would include emacspeak, BrlTTY, ORCA, the

list identification:

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I would like to make a suggestion: As the list moderator has redacted senders, perhaps it would be helpful if people were to put there name at the beginning or the end of there posts. I can usually tell who is posting because I am practiced at reading headers, but it is time consuming and not

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Yes, I totally agree with this. -- Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes: > My only concern with this argument is that it seems like it takes > longer

Re: OT: Braille Hexadecimal

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
actually, there are two ways this can be handled. 1. use grade 1 braille for this 2. use computer braille (which can be a real pain at times, but it has greater flexibility). -eric On Apr 23, 2017, at 6:18 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Okay, so this has nothing to

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
are striving for, some good help can be had out there (like the aforementioned NV association). It's just a matter of getting them onboard. -eric On Apr 23, 2017, at 4:13 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > On 4/18/2017 8:23 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> here is one thing t

Re: OT: Braille Hexadecimal

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I use 8-dot computer Braille. The numbers are dropped so there is no need for number/letter signs and no conflict. On 4/23/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote: > Well, that's not hard for braille to do. Just have the number signs > where they need to

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Very well composed email Kyle. Thank you Rob Whyte On 24/04/17 06:02, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > I think you misunderstand the way TalkingArch works. TalkingArch has > very minor modifications to offer speech and braille output out of the > box, but TalkingArch is es

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Le 23/04/2017 à 23:18, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit : > Debian Testing isn't exactly a rolling release in the same way as Arch. > Debian Unstable probably comes closer, but even that's not the same. The > problem is that Arch for example takes all component packages from t

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
# To clarify, I was under the impression that Fedora was, at least # originally, a derivative of RedHat Enterprise Linux and that the term # RedHat was typically used both for the company and for the distro that # bears their name Not quite. Fedora is the continuation of the distro called "Red

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Kyle writes: > The NV Association is perfectly justified if they refuse funding of > Linux development, as that's just not what they do. Absolutely. For a number of years now, I've thought it would be nice to have an umbrella foundation to help accessibility related projects. I don't know

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Wait, I thought Fedora was to Redhat as Ubuntu is to Debian, or has Fedora become more of it's own thing over time? Though honestly, I see Debian has having less of a slow release cycle and more of Debian Testing being a rolling release on par with any of the quick cycle distros, and Debian

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
According to eric: # you forget, they are OPEN SOURCE. windows might not be, but the NVDA screen reader is. You forget that although NVDA is open source, it is designed to run on an operating system that is fundamentally different, and would require a complete redesign to even come close to

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Le 24/04/2017 à 01:07, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit : > # A couple of years ago, I suggested the nvda and the orca developers > # create a inter-operability panel to make the 2 screen readers as similar > # as possible. I still think it is a good idea. > Some things

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
According to eric: # Perhaps we need to take a look at the guys at the NV Association (the makers of NVDA, the free # windows screen reader). Seriously? The NV Association is *not* a general accessibility organization. It is the organization that handles funding for the NVDA Windows screen

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Hi, > Additionally, Fedora is nearly dead center between the Arch philosophy > of the rolling release, having the latest and greatest at all costs, and > the Debian philosophy, in which older is better, so the latest changes > to Orca that make it work better on the web for example, which have

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Debian Testing isn't exactly a rolling release in the same way as Arch. Debian Unstable probably comes closer, but even that's not the same. The problem is that Arch for example takes all component packages from the same desktop version, ie. GNOME, whereas Debian even unstable takes parts of 2

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
To clarify, I was under the impression that Fedora was, at least originally, a derivative of RedHat Enterprise Linux and that the term RedHat was typically used both for the company and for the distro that bears their name(and perhaps it was presumptuous of me to think it was obvious I meant

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
ard to use in braille in latest releases. The needed work is enormous in this suite. We reported about 30 bugs. But again, it depends on usage and what is expected from an office suite. Regards, Regards, Le 24/04/2017 à 00:45, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit : > # It is n

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
all the answers? Sheesh! On 04/23/2017 06:07 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: # A couple of years ago, I suggested the nvda and the orca developers # create a inter-operability panel to make the 2 screen readers as similar # as possible. I still think it is a good idea. Some

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Regarding my experiences with my clients, my business motto has always been "Linux is for everyone," and I don't discriminate. This means that I will never make it a policy to serve only blind or visually impaired people, and I prefer what are commonly called "mainstream" distros over all

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Orca only *seems* slightly slower than NVDA to some because it works directly with the browser. I'll take that any day over a page taking twice as long to load because it first has to be loaded into the browser, and then it has to be loaded yet again into NVDA's virtual buffer. And forget

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Um, to the non-existent community person, did you really mean to respond to me? I believe I ultimately said the same thing. I'm not the one who mentioned some "blind community," and I for one also believe this is something that simply doesn't exist. I'm just as human as you, and I work toward

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
and more in general products, no reference to sight loss required. If I ever get around to using Linux outside of the Ubuntu shells I have, it will be a main distribution.Karen On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I'm not sure if I'm following these arguments. Blind users

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
absolute, then eye witness testimony would be decisive, and traffic accidents would be almost nonexistent smiles. Kare On Mon, 24 Apr 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I suspect the person's e-mail client just automatically quoted the last message in the thread, and to be quite honest

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
share a label too. So, while I respect your desire to work with your smaller distribution, keep your "of your own," ideas to yourself. Kare On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Regarding my experiences with my clients, my business motto has always be

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
sure there are distributions based on a lot less shared needs then blind Linux users have. I say just as any other distribution, put it out there and either the users will come or they won't. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail On 23/04/17 20:16, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Again

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I suspect the person's e-mail client just automatically quoted the last message in the thread, and to be quite honest, I'd argue most quoting on these lists is non-sensical, which is why I always uncheck the "include quoted text" checkbox before starting to type a reply(as an aside, if anyone

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
the barriers to understanding by those you define as totally outside of your community. I prefer to focus on common desires with individual choices. The more choices on the buffet, the greater the number who are fed. Kare On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I am probably

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Eyes to get the things done I have had to do in Windows. I have switched almost entirely to Linux now. I only have Windows for a few clients who require me to have it. On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I have no intention of going anywhere near a Windows PC

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
not always Orca’s fault. -- Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes: > Hi, > > >> Additionally, Fedora is nearly dead center between the Ar

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes: > I'm not a fan of sticking to one set of key mappings just because > another screen reader on another platform uses it. For me, I'd prefe

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
l.com Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes: > This is the kind of thing we created the International Association Of > Visually Impaired Technologists for. It has donated server space and > is incorporated legally as a non

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Why do I want insert+f12 to tell me the time when insert+t, (t for time), can do that for me just fine and more intuitively? How is f12 better than t, which stands for time? No, that's simply not a logical keybinding, and I don't want it in Orca. BTDubs, holding in the insert Orca key and

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I'm not saying you would want it, but long-time NVDA and Jaws users would. -- Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes: > Why do I want insert+f12 to tell me

Fwd: [Technology Preview] A new installer for Ubuntu Server images

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Has anyone tested this for accessibility? I know the old server installer did include Speakup in the kernel but no software speech. Has this been resolved in this new image? Luke, can you or anyone from Canonical comment on this? Forwarded Message Subject: [Technology

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-23 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Your name isn't showing up for some reason. You make some good arguments. Comments below. On 4/21/2017 6:05 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: My only concern with this argument is that it seems like it takes longer to get fixes pushed up stream then it does to spin up a custom

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-18 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Hi, It's a good idea, indeed. FYI, Debian has started a such project in Blends: http://blends.debian.org/accessibility Maybe it can be a point of beginning of a packages list with a tree? Alternatively, to create a kind of structure of packages with deps, we can use a wiki such as

Re: Any Currently Working Weather Apps?

2017-04-18 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Thanks Tony-and-all: My other anoying issue with "wx" script, it stops like half-way through the forecast, so I must type "wx -x" and type airport codes directly. And lastly some of you can see, I changed my first name to Chime ___ Blinux-list

Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-18 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I'm afraid their navigation could use work, so I usually do google searches and add "site:archive.org" to my query. -tim On April 18, 2017, Al Sten-Clanton wrote: > Any tips for getting around archives.org? Somebody recommended it > to me a few weeks ago, so I gave it a quick shot. I was

Re: command line fan fiction program?

2017-04-18 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I am a firm believer in synchronicity. > What makes your post hug worthy is that I was just wondering about > archives.org. Reasoning being that sometimes a writer decides, either by > accident or intention to

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
really to the point. To be fair, I think it would be next to impossible to get Freedom Scientific to change to insert+t and therefore it would be next to impossible to get nvda to change. -- John Heim On 04/24/2017 10:29 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: No. F12 does not mean time

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
messages on the speakup list from the developers in the month of April. There have been so many that I haven't even seen exactly what fixes they are making. -- John Heim On 04/24/2017 10:45 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Boot messages can be sent out via a serial console

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
F12 isn't stupid. It's a perfectly reasonable choice. Someone else might argue that orca+t is stupid because to them, t means table. Or tab. Or maybe they speak swahili and their word for time starts with a q or an x. -- John Heim On 04/24/2017 05:49 AM, Linux for blind general discussion

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Boot messages can be sent out via a serial console, without the help of a screen reader locked into the kernel, where it is harder to fix bugs and harder to keep it updated, as the whole kernel has to be updated along with it. I know the serial console works, as I have a uart header on my

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
No. F12 does not mean time in any language. F12 may be a Jaws thing, and it may even be an NVDA thing, but it's far from a standard. Last I checked, time wasn't spelled with an f anything. Therefore, f12 telling me the time is stupid and illogical at best. I want my t damn it. T for time, t

Re: switching lists

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I'm not really bothered by the anonymity the list now has, nor was I bothered by the spam that lead to the anonymity, but would you mind providing instructions on how to join these other lists? I'm already on both this list and the Raspberry Vi list(which focuses specifically on accessibility on

document conversion utilities was Re: the Sonar thread

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes: > the following command line utilities are all useful: > > catdoc for .doc and I believe .rtf(and I believe catdoc also includes > commands to handle xls and ppt). *snip* > Granted, I know of no command l

Re: Blind vs. mainstream distros

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Ok, I have been following this discussion and it is very interesting. Doug Smith here. I have just had to change over to antergos. It is really good, seems stable, and, though it is not what we might call a specialized distro, it works well with orca on gnome. It is a modification of arch

switching lists

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
John, I am subscribed to both lists. I think the main problem with switching is what Karen said a few messages back. People are not comfortable with change. Maybe we should just take some threads over there. This list is almost useless when you search the archives as there are not individual

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I use Emacs, with Boodler, as a Talking Clock. There is a sound scape that speaks time every 15 minutes. -- Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>

Re: IAVIT - Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I would be interested in your offer. I would need a decent build environment for kernel images with the Speakup patches. My existing server is eventually going away. I would need decent hardware with enough memory. I don't think it would be hard

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
My God! No one is /making/ you use it! It, is, a, choice, damn it! Just because one person wants it one way doesn’t mean it’s how it /has/ to be! -- Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
For reading, if I can't read it in Firefox, I usually convert it to plain text and read it in nano. Gmail's view as HTML function works for most attached documents, and the following command line utilities are all useful: catdoc for .doc and I believe .rtf(and I believe catdoc also includes

Re: document conversion utilities was Re: the Sonar thread

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
calibre's ebook-convert does pdf and epub to some extent as well as some of those propriatory formats, as long as there is no drm on them. HTH, Willem On Mon, 24 Apr 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Screen readers cannot give boot messages anyways, with software speech. -- Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes: > Boot messages can be sent out via

Re: blinux list Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I wouldn't mind moving to a new list. -- Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs. Email: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Long days and pleasant nights! Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes: > It's not true that Red Hat did what they could do as quickly as they &

Re: list identification:

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
(maintainer blinux-list) On 23.04.2017 13:27, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi Kelly, I am surprised that people actually don't sign there name anyway. It is polite to do so and then we will know. The previous thread seemed to be CJ but could be wrong. We tend to learn people's

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Regardless of the method used, I'm not sure boot messages are all that important to the average user or even the average power user. The functionality might be useful to some sysadmins, but I'm not convinced the convenience kernel integration provides to these few is worth the extra hassle

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I don't think it's fair to say that Windows users just went right along with giving up the start menu. There was a major out cry and MS reintroduced the start menu. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail On 24/04/17 19:06, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Windows users have had

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
a better and more intuitive set of bindings. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail On 24/04/17 12:47, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Okay, lets just make this perfectly clear. You don't care that a new user trying to switch from Windows to linux would be confused by having to learn all

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Windows users have had to learn and relearn basic functionality of their own precious OS for years now, as Microsoft itself periodically changes the way things work just for the sake of making a change. I see nothing new here, except that the benefits of Linux far outweigh any changes in key

Re: list identification:

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
following the flow on this list. Speaking for myself of course, Karen On Mon, 24 Apr 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hello, Hans and list! I'm Lars Bjørndal. you wrote: blinux-list is no longer sending 'From' addresses because of a spammer abusing these addresses. This new

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
F12 is completely arbitrary and has no meaning outside of stupid Jaws. And to answer the question of people who speak different languages using different mnemonics, this is completely fair, but should be addressed by maybe having different default mnemonics for different languages, not by

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
(CJ) chaltain at Gmail On 24/04/17 09:32, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Again, a little give can sometimes be a very good thing. Honestly, nerds all seem to have this thing where they think their way is the best way. This is how distro

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
The serial terminal is indeed built into the kernel, but the difference is that it isn't stuck in staging with no hope of ever getting out into the main tree. In fact, the serial terminal has been a part of the base kernel for many many years. And what in the world is wrong with using a cable

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-04-24 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Dan Rossi here. WOW, what a thread. The vehemence surrounding a silly little thing like F-12 verses insert-t is amazing. In JAWS, insert-t is for the title of the window I am in. Title, T. There are only 26 letters in the alphabet and a few modifier keys, so some things are going to get

Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

2017-07-31 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
, Zahari Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 01:53:38PM -0500 > I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal > applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently > use. > Orca's terminal support sucks. > I've in

Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

2017-07-31 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
akefile produces two errors that I don't understand. What is speachd-up? Do I need it in addition to speakup and espeakup? On 7/31/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote: > Hi, > Do you use espeakup or speechd-up, or some hardware synthesizer? > If you u

I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

2017-07-31 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I'm using Orca on Ubuntu MATE. I want to use several terminal applications because I'm unsatisfied with the desktop apps I currently use. Orca's terminal support sucks. I've installed speakup, but it never runs when I switch to terminal. Any suggestions for fixes I might try? Thanks.

Plugin for Orca

2017-08-01 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Hi! I am looking for problem statements to make Orca a better screen reader on Linux. Development is usually a better choice, when it comes to Linux, but the developer community mainly lacks accessibilities here. I will be glad to receive feedbacks from you all about Orca and problems you face

Re: Latest brailleblaster and/or braille printer/embosser drivers?

2017-08-01 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Linux for blind general discussion, on mar. 01 août 2017 08:06:54 +0200, wrote: > Can braille printing be done using cups? Simply by setting it as a printer, using the generic braille driver (or the Index braille driver when it is an Index embosser), and setting parameters. You can then just

Re: I need to get speakup to wirk. Suggestions?

2017-08-01 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
have a --help option, it has a manual page: man mokutil -- Best wishes, Zahari Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:57:36PM -0500 > I still get the same "key not available" error. Does that mean for > certain that I'm still stuck with that acu

Re: bats rescue disk

2017-08-02 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
to the above lack of time, I'm leaving the blinux list. If you need me, write to the above address. If you want to work on it, take it over or test it, please let me know. On 6/19/2017 8:26 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: The version I downloaded was up at the end of May 2017. I found

Re: Request for coppy

2017-08-15 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
http://vinuxproject.org/downloads maybe. I'm all ubuntu, so haven't used this. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Re: Request for coppy

2017-08-15 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
google for vinux iso On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi all, My 1st mail in this group. Accidantly, i have lost my iso blinux package, so i would like to share the link from where i can get that copy again. I have tried to get it from google search, but i am

No speech with orca

2017-08-15 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I resterated the machine and now I get no speech with orca. Emacspeak still talks. In orca preferences the "speech system" and "speech synthesizer choices no longer appear. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com

Re: Overwriting old/corrupted files in a backup

2017-08-15 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Hi, I didn't know about 'cp -Rn'. I made friends with rsync years ago, and use it for local copies as well as to/from remote hosts over the network. It has flags for most of the behaviors you want. To not clobber existing files during the copy you have: --backup, --backup-dir and --suffix

Re: Request for coppy

2017-08-15 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
vinux version wget --background --continue --trust-server-names --max-redirect=1 https://sourceforge.net/projects/vinuxproject/files/latest/download?source=files cut here. On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 13:15:36 From: Linux for blind

Re: Overwriting old/corrupted files in a backup

2017-08-16 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I agree. rsync is fast and extremely powerful. If in the future you need something really sophisticated, like large companies use, try storeBackup. Fernando On 08/16/2017 09:57 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Use rsync instead. You'll never look back. Janina Linux

festival screen reader install

2017-08-16 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I downloaded the voices pack for festival and put it in /usr/share/festival/english/. The english part of that may have needed capitalization I'm not sure. Beyond that, I don't know yet how to select a default voice from those available and configure festival so that a voice comes up talking

Re: linux firefox and webvisum

2017-08-13 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
and thunderbird from my systems were that to happen. neomutt could probably replace thunderbird and probably at a considerable space savings on disk too. On Sat, 12 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 13:04:50 From: Linux for blind general discussion

Re: Spd.conf ruined my speech. Please help.

2017-08-13 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
. On 8/13/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote: > Now this is interesting. I did rm -fr ./config/pulse and then rebooted > the system to clear memory and played a webm file I have on vlc. > Afterwards no change to speech happened at all. So it i

Re: Fenrir error file

2017-08-13 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
an error report but doesn't tell me what crashed. On 8/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote: > Howdy, > > ah cool so the sound setup is correct. > you just need to configure speech-dispatcher. > run spd-conf as root and tell it to use pulse.

Re: Fenrir Wiki updated

2017-08-13 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
enreader are you using currently? orca should not affect by > changes here since it is overwriting stuff by its own settings (like > fenrir does). > cheers chrys > > Am 12.08.2017 um 19:32 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: >> Running spd-conf messed up my speech. >&

Re: Fenrir errors

2017-08-11 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
I was thinking, wouldn't a live phone conference be a faster way for many of us to get these issues resolved? I would suggest a phone bridge instead of something like Skype, as many of us would need our sound cards for speech. Thanks in advance Chime

Re: Fenrir errors

2017-08-11 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
-us I m always want to help :) thats why i create OCRdesktop fenrir and SOPS. Am 11.08.2017 um 18:14 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I was thinking, wouldn't a live phone conference be a faster way for many of us to get these issues resolved? I would suggest a phone bridge instead

Re: Fenrir errors

2017-08-11 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
by the way if you try again please pull git master again i did some massive changes :) for process handling. Am 08.08.2017 um 01:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: I've attached the errors I get when I try to run Fenrir without installing it. All dependencies are installed and I

re: firefox and webvisum

2017-08-14 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
Okay, when in firefox I typed control-f10 I get a menu and moving down I find webvisum menu so hit enter on that. Then I find login and hit enter on that and nothing happens. -- ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com

Re: Orca speech still messed up

2017-08-14 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
settings sudo rm -r /root/.config/speech-dispatcher/ and resinstall speech-dispatcher then? cheers chrys Am 14.08.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before

Orca speech still messed up

2017-08-14 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
The only espeak.conf file now left on my system is my modified version, the same file that allowed me to adjust the rate before. Espeak is still slow and raises the pitch for capitalized words. BTW, under Orca preferences I cannot select espeak as the synthesizer. It only lets me select "default

Re: getting started with debian, suggestions anyone?

2017-08-14 Thread Linux for blind general discussion
est to the debian-boot email list and a problem you experienced may get discovered by them and corrected for your hardware that way. On Mon, 14 Aug 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:41:08 From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redh

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