Re: [board-discuss] request for vacation

2013-05-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Doesn't that count as TDF sending you to a conference?  Therefore it's part of your job to attend these sorts of things?  Presumably some of the time you might be working with other projects or your own things rather than representing TDF all the time so only the regular hours count, not

Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice Swag/Merchandise Bulk Purchase?

2013-03-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) That 40 sounds bizzare.  Some have already claimed more than that on travel without being even slightly dishonourable.  Far from it in fact, they seem to have gone to extraordinary pains to keep costs down and i really can't imagine people in other organisations going that far.  It's an

Re: [board-discuss] additional FOSDEM budget

2013-01-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Hopefully these costs will go up quite dramatically every year because it's an indicator of success.  It's going up because we know that a LOT more people will be stopping and taking an interest in TDF and LibreOffice at the event (and at other events).  Also hopefully more people might

Re: [board-discuss] Format of the BoD votes announcement

2013-01-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think just the vote count is fine.  If people want more info they can look through the appropriate thread.  I do quite like the idea of a list of names as a way of people checking they were counted correctly but there are times when a vote needs to be taken anonymously.  So, on balance

Re: [board-discuss] Seeking approval for server procurement

2012-01-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Ok, i am not a voting member but the options here seem to be 1.  accept the donation and get an asset that might be useful (probably will be enormously useful) 2.  hand back the dosh So i am not really clear why it's even up for discussion or voting on but i guess it's good policy jic

Re: [board-discuss] FOSDEM travel funding

2012-01-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Blimey!!  Given the work you do here i hope the BoD is able to stump-up the extra 100 to save you the 8hours journey!!  It'd be more cost-effective to get you the shorter flight so that you are not worn out (at either end) by the trip! Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 9/1/12, Florian

Re: [board-discuss] New members

2012-01-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think that is welcome back really!  Andre has done a huge amount here too so wb Andre! :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 10/1/12, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [board-discuss] New members

Re: [board-discuss] CommunityBylaws and actual structure and governance of The Document Foundation as a legal entity

2011-11-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) The key words afaik are as a legal entity. TDF's assets are currently being looked after by 1 (or more) of the community organisations that are legally registered as legal entitys. TDF has not yet gained the status of being a legal entity. When it does the assets will be transferred.

Re: [board-discuss] poll on regular BoD times

2011-11-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 6/11/11, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [board-discuss] poll on regular BoD times To: board-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Sunday, 6

RE: [board-discuss] Membership Committee

2011-11-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think OpenOffice before the forking was under some fairly strange leadership. ie a company that worked hard to increase community participation but not being very trusting of the communities they had grown = actively blocking many proposed patches and stuff developed by the community.

Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

2011-11-01 Thread Tom Davies
/11, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Tuesday, 1 November, 2011, 15:16 On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Tom

side-note Re: [steering-discuss] chairmen

2011-10-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Florian. It is good to have these issues dealt with. There is no need to apologise for 'spam' as it is all relevant and important stuff. If these issue weren't raised today they would have to be raised another day and they are the type of thing that is good to deal with and get out of

Re: [steering-discuss] renaming this list

2011-10-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 to board. It's more generic and so people will recognise it more easily from other organisations. All 3 options have delightful puns of course. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 26/10/11, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com

Re: [steering-discuss] renaming this list

2011-10-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) How about just keeping the current name, steering-discuss, or perhaps the 3 boards could be; - directors-discuss - advisory-discuss - trustees-discuss with this one being the directors-discuss? BoD is fairly unique to TDF so it's not very transparent to people outside of the

Re: [steering-discuss] renaming this list

2011-10-26 Thread Tom Davies
...@documentfoundation.org wrote: From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] renaming this list To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Wednesday, 26 October, 2011, 19:10 Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-10-26 17:50: How about just keeping

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-10 Thread Tom Davies
...@suse.com Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Monday, 10 October, 2011, 10:11 Hi Tom, On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 18:02 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: One of the top priorities for the Documentation Team right now is a guide

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks

2011-10-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) One of the top priorities for the Documentation Team right now is a guide to help people that want to start programming for LibreOffice.  There is already a good one for Extensions but most of the scattered things we have for programmers are apparently for OpenOffice when it was under

Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?

2011-09-13 Thread Tom Davies
list? To: Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.**uk tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: steering-discuss@**documentfoundation.orgsteering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Monday, 12 September, 2011, 15:34 Tom Davies wrote: Do you mean how many expressed an interest and tried to give it a go during

Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?

2011-09-13 Thread Tom Davies
about how to re-invigorate that part of the project.  Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 13/9/11, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: From: Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list? To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?

2011-09-13 Thread Tom Davies
...@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list? To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 9:25 Tom Davies wrote: Done that.  Been there.  It didn't work.  Base is dying. Can we just admit that and remove

Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?

2011-09-12 Thread Tom Davies
- a new mailing list? To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Monday, 12 September, 2011, 15:34 Tom Davies wrote: Do you mean how many expressed an interest and tried to give it a go during the past year or do you mean how many at any one time or do

[steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?

2011-09-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) A few people have asked about starting up a new mailing list to try to bring together people that want to work on Base.  People from Documentation, Developers perhaps later on some people from Design.  At the moment there are people that want to work on Base but each is isolated and

Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 For meetings, conferences, training days and stuff like that we would often have an amount for refreshments. In End of Year Accounts or Financial Statements for SMBs (Small-Medium sized Business) there is often be an item labelled Refreshments buried in Other Expenses. Is food not

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think that counts as 6 votes with none against, so it's nem con or something. The votes from deputies doesn't count if the people they are deputies for have voted. Not that it makes much difference since it's still a strong majority with none against. Regards from Tom :)

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It's all good. We get there in the end. Hopefully in a more elegant and less turgid way next time! Regards from Tom :) From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Fri, 12 August, 2011 17:30:55 Subject: Re:

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Possibly omit the middle paragraph. It would leave the statement without an explanation but at least it would state what the preference is. Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To:

Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion purpose

2011-08-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Also, allowing threads (such as the one about job-description for marketing contacts) to split out to other, more relevant, lists is great and seems to be working fine. It's inevitable that discussions take place all over the place because there is a lot of energy and excitement

Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 definitely. Regards from Tom :) From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Fri, 12 August, 2011 16:55:51 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's

off-list Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-11 Thread Tom Davies
August, 2011 7:08:01 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy Hi Tom, all! A quick note ... mis-using the steering-discuss being an SC deputy. Am Mittwoch, den 10.08.2011, 10:35 +0100 schrieb Tom Davies: Sounds good to me but i'm curious about the Branding Team's thoughts

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
, 2011 16:15:44 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 17:06 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-10 16:45: if it could be that simple then it would be easy to give quick answers to requests. I'm not sure what

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-08 Thread Tom Davies
: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots My proposal stands :-) :-) On 8 Aug 2011, at 01:04, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) That would completely change the statement. It is the opposite of what Florian wrote. Are we going to reopen discussion about the issue again? Regards from Tom

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It's easy to make empty promises but there is nothing written down to say that the Steering Committee and BoD would accept any responsibility at all. The risk is all on individual contributors at the moment. Regards from Tom :) From: André Schnabel

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-08 Thread Tom Davies
:) From: Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 8 August, 2011 18:41:05 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think that unnecessarily

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-08 Thread Tom Davies
as the earlier text but ensures we do not leave hostages to fortune. Are there any others sharing Tom's concern please? S. /:-) On 8 Aug 2011, at 23:59, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) There were a reasonable amount of +1s to the first draft produced by Florian and no-one voted against it then or after

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-07 Thread Tom Davies
:59:15 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-06 13:54: Has the marketing or Branding team (or reps here) approved of either this version or the original? Since both have very much the same meanings i think approval of either would be good

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) That would completely change the statement. It is the opposite of what Florian wrote. Are we going to reopen discussion about the issue again? Regards from Tom :) From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent:

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I thought this issue had been settled with It is noted that several members of the SC acknowledge the existence of a legal risk to display screenshots of LibreOffice on Windows, but the risk is deemed low, therefore, while screenshots on GNU/Linux should be the default ones, screenshots

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

2011-08-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think the new wording is much clearer. Bullet-points definitely helped imo. The wording seems about as smooth and straight forward as it is likely to get without changing the meanings. It's a LOT less turgid than many simialr things i have read but seems to deal with the legal and

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

2011-08-06 Thread Tom Davies
To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sat, 6 August, 2011 13:57:43 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots Hi all, Florian - thank you for this follow up :-) Am Samstag, den 06.08.2011, 11:26 +0100 schrieb Tom Davies: Hi :) I thought this issue had been settled

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think that in the specific case of David it would be smart to invite him to join the sys-admin team. I do appreciate it might not be good to allow everyone to join as and when they feel like it but David is a significant contributor to the docs team in that role. If he isn't invited

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
:) From: Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 1 August, 2011 12:54:23 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 19:26 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: I think

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

2011-07-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks Alex. It's always good to hear the legal fact rather than the rest of us just guessing at what seems reasonable. Presumably the org has to be spelled out in full? Can it say on behalf of TDF? Something like The LibreOffice trademark is registered to Freies Office Deutschland

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think the SC just voted on the 600 euroes excess. I think the full amount might need another vote. Coincidentally i think there is an Sc Meeting tonight(?) so it could be done quite quickly there? Perhaps vote on the full amount first and if that gets defeated then vote on the

Re: [steering-discuss] funding for system operations meeting

2011-07-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) So the work was done for TDF but the decision to do the work was taken by one of the communities. I thought the event was a different one. One that had been discussed in here. I remember people using the mailing list to meet up for further discussion at the end of one of the days

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-27 Thread Tom Davies
. Regards from Tom :) From: Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org; Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: us...@global.libreoffice.org; documentat...@global.libreoffice.org; hc.stoellin...@aon.at; t...@tomcloyd.com

[steering-discuss] Fw: [libreoffice-users] Slovak site

2011-07-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Please can you use Reply to all when replying to this or find some other way of including pe...@kubek.sk as he is not subscribed to this list (yet) Regards from Tom :) - Forwarded Message From: Peter Kubek pe...@kubek.sk To: us...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 20 July,

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: SC call on 27th

2011-07-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think other people already have permissions set so they can unlock (or whatever) the room? That was about the only trouble last time i think but it was a total blocker at the time. This time people have permissions? Regards from Tom :) From:

Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials

2011-07-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 to all this. The agreed wording, that keeps getting repeated, allows screen-shots to be taken in MS Windows. The wording also cleverly allows screen-shots on other platforms. The perceived issue with MS is that MS Office is possibly their main income stream. People might buy

[steering-discuss] wikipedia

2011-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I found a page about Calc in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Calc but it's heavily branded as the OpenOffice version. Writer has 2 pages. One for OpenOffice and 1 for LibreOffice. Would it be better to move towards having just 1 page for each application and then

Re: [steering-discuss] wording on TDF website

2011-07-14 Thread Tom Davies
, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-07-12 15.54: Ahah, this is the email i have been looking for. I really like the idea of a link so that people can check the latest news about progress. It is an independent self-governing meritocratic Foundation, currently in the process of being established

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I agree with Italo that the different teams have different requirements to achieve different results. Marketing and Website is tactical and dynamic, able to change fairly quickly. Sometimes being highly responsive, sometimes anticipating, sometimes getting far ahead of the game.

Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: Next SC call in 4,5 hours

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ahah, now i see the point of David's post. I think item 2 is not impartially worded. It seems to attempt to make people's minds up for them = to impose random chaos in the documentation! Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger

Re: [steering-discuss] wording on TDF website

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wed, 13 July, 2011 10:59:39 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] wording on TDF website Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-07-12 15.54: It is an independent self-governing meritocratic Foundation, currently in the process of being established by leading members

Re: [steering-discuss] Request for changes of Membership Committee

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Would his description be more accurate if someone changed it from ... David is the LibreOffice community representative in Brazil. to David is a LibreOffice community representative in Brazil. It is difficult to claim someone is representing any community accurately as

Re: [steering-discuss] Request for changes of Membership Committee

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 All things, however unlikely, are possibly possible. I agree that we shouldn't spend much more time on this. I just wondered if there was a quick fix to solve the issue but if it doesn't fix the problem then there is no need to drag the argument back into the spotlight. Regards

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Regards from Tom :) From: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wed, 13 July, 2011 16:34:05 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team Hi Italo, Drew, On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think the question should be Can the documentation team continue to be consistent and use themes that it previously agreed or should it switch to using Windows and therefore make documentation have randomly different themes and OSes for screen-shots? With possible sub-questions to be

Re: [steering-discuss] SC call notes for 2011-07-13

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I don't think it was controversial! An issue was flagged up but just as something to notice in passing rather than blocking David from helping do good work! Has the limit on the number of people that could usefully help been reached or could David be allowed in? Regards from Tom :)

Re: [steering-discuss] SC call notes for 2011-07-13

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
call notes for 2011-07-13 Hello Tom, I don't use Word but I used different wiki formattings... best, Charles. 2011/7/13 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Fantastic :)) A good result for all concerned! Thanks all that attended, especially Charles for taking the notes and Florian

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 to the idea of this being voted on by the SC/BoD without re-arguing the points. I had hoped the discussion would just congratulate the Documentation Team on neatly avoiding potential pitfalls that would take months to fix if MS used it as a side-issue in a any future dealings with

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-12 Thread Tom Davies
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team Tom Davies wrote: I had hoped the discussion would just congratulate the Documentation Team on neatly avoiding potential pitfalls that would take months to fix if MS used it as a side-issue in a any future dealings with them

Re: [steering-discuss] wording on TDF website

2011-07-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ahah, this is the email i have been looking for. I really like the idea of a link so that people can check the latest news about progress. It is an independent self-governing meritocratic Foundation, currently in the process of being established by leading members of the OpenOffice.org

Re: [steering-discuss] wording on TDF website

2011-07-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 The images to the right might need to be moved up a little bit too in order to keep the page looking tidy. I think just remove the bullet point and see how the page looks. Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-08 Thread Tom Davies
:48, Tom Davies a écrit : Everyone : To me, the point has more to do with SC communication. Once again, a topic has raised its head that I considered dealt with, and now it is back on the table. Although not a member of the SC, the question of the legality of screenshot usage and associated

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) In the MS vs TomTom case significant 'damages' were awarded to MS because TomTom were using a file-system that could be read by Windows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._TomTom_%282008,_USA%29 TomTom 'should' have been paying MS for the

Re: [steering-discuss] sponsoring for the Hackfest

2011-07-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think i would favour Italo's pasta. Does anyone remember the BBC's April 1st documentary on Italian 'vineyard's that supposedly grew pasta instead of grapes? Germany is famous for many things but Italy wins on pasta. Regards from Tom :) From:

[steering-discuss] Fw: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-06 Thread Tom Davies
relevant links or something quotable. Regards from Tom :) - Forwarded Message From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wed, 6 July, 2011 10:48:31 Subject: screen-shots Documentation Team Hi The documentation team has been told by various

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread Tom Davies
From: sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sat, 18 June, 2011 12:51:17 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium Hi all, On 18/06/2011 09:58, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, klaus-jürgen

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

2011-06-18 Thread Tom Davies
From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sat, 18 June, 2011 19:18:40 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-06-18 16.50: I think that

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It would look slightly more normal as: Please read carefully Regards from Tom :) From: Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thu, 16 June, 2011 6:55:06 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] proposed

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi : Please ignore my last email. I didn't realise the words were part of a sentence rather than being the entire statement. Context is everything i should have checked. It looks good already :) Regards from Tom :) From: Francois Tigeot

Re: [steering-discuss] grammar mistake in the bylaws

2011-06-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I wouldn't worry about it. It's fine in business speak. If you do change it then it needs to be more like ... Each organization *can appoint* a single representative to the Advisory Board based on a yearly fee to be determined by the BoD. The problem then is that it's passive and

Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Google Alert - libreoffice

2011-06-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I thought the GPL, LGPL MPL were all much more permissive than the Apache licenses? I thought the whole point of OpenSource was that it is contra-intuitive. By insisting on intellectual freedoms, ideas are able to build on each other more easily. Regards from Tom :)

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think it is better to do the minimum that is required to make it legal and for the rest write in things like Mid-term replacements are to be covered by internal TDF policy which is to be reviewed regularly. In some cases it makes sense to name the specific document that will cover

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I thought everyone quickly checked that sort of thing anyway? I do. I thought David was making a joke out of the need for people to be a little more aware of one need for checking such rules. A serious point put forwards as a joke. Regards from Tom :)

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Someone mailed me off-list thinking it was my comment and quoted a real-world legal case where someone had really done what you describe. It is an old joke and an obvious thing to avoid but i'm not hugely surprised one bunch of people got fooled into letting it happen! It's impossible

Re: [steering-discuss] FYI: Apache Incubator is now voting

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am sure you are welcome to stay in even if it's only to help iron-out any misunderstandings as they arise but if you don't feel comfortable then don't. Sounds like you have been doing good work :) Regards from Tom :) From: Norbert Thiebaud

Re: [steering-discuss] FYI: Apache Incubator is now voting

2011-06-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks :) The voting system sounds interesting. I like the idea of non-binding votes for people that might not have joined as proper members yet but might have significant interest in the Apache Foundation. Thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Greg

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thu, 9 June, 2011 9:17:13 Subject: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes Hello, as we are moving forward with legally setting up the foundation,

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
From: David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thu, 9 June, 2011 11:24:02 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes Hi Michael, On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 13:15, Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
From: David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Cc: steering-disc...@global.documentfoundation.org Sent: Thu, 9 June, 2011 20:22:51 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes Hi Florian, On Thu, Jun 9, 2011

Re: [steering-discuss] About elections

2011-06-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think 100 is still quite small compared to the numbers of people actually involved. So the list of members is still more like a special-interest sub-set. The founder members are doing a great job and i hope that they stay in place for a long while yet. Regards from Tom :) -

Re: [steering-discuss] About elections

2011-06-06 Thread Tom Davies
- Original Message From: Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 11:02:56 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] About elections Hi, 2011/6/6 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: Tom Davies wrote

Re: [steering-discuss] About elections

2011-06-06 Thread Tom Davies
- Original Message From: sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 12:10:30 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] About elections Hi Volker, all, On 06/06/2011 13:02, Volker Merschmann wrote: [...] I'd like to add that

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
- Original Message From: Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 14:03:55 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community? On Sat,

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
- Original Message From: Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Cc: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com; steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 19:12:45 Subject: [steering-discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Apache

Re: [steering-discuss] call from CW 15 online

2011-04-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) If there is some sort of voice recording (perhaps via Voip?) then perhaps some minutes could be generated? I'm not a touch-typist but there are probably people around that could do something or perhaps just place the recording wherre minutes are usually kept? Regards from Tom :)

Re: [steering-discuss] Reducing donation ads

2011-03-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think the devastation is on such a massive scale it makes the twin towers incident seem tiny, contained and inconsequential by comparison yet that had repercussions globally. All disasters are, of course, horrendous but the scale of this is unprecedented. The Japanese people have

Re: [steering-discuss] SC Vote on first members of TDF

2011-01-28 Thread Tom Davies
I'm not a voting member but it all looks good to me, apart from being inquorate and these glitches are unavoidable sometimes. Many thanks to all of you for an excellent first release and an amazing job in setting up community systems so quickly! Congrats, thanks and regards from Tom :)

[steering-discuss] development releases

2011-01-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi I think Oracle have decided they are competing with LibreOffice but so far we seem to be co-operating with them. It would be wise for us to 1. Beat them to the finish line. 2. Keep aware of what they are doing, odd stats can help sometimes 3. Keep going the way we have been, rapid

Re: [steering-discuss] paid Doodle account

2011-01-21 Thread Tom Davies
Preferring to support other OpenSource projects is a good aim but 22 € is easier to pay if that covers all of us and all the lists to get it sorted fast. It does mean continuing to use existing systems that people are now familiar with which is an advantage. Generally i would say we should

Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

2011-01-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi guys ... ladies [ bows ] I think that giving @LibreOffice.Org email addresses out to even non-members would be a good way of getting the name Libre Office out there and visible. People don't assume that Yahoo is represented by people with an @Yahoo.Co.Uk address so could we do

Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

2011-01-17 Thread Tom Davies
-01-2011 16:16, Tom Davies escreveu: OTOH if people use the email address per...@openoffice.org then it gets the name OpenOffice out there and being seen by a lot of people. Free advertising! +1 For some people this is even a matter of pride, like wearing a t-shirt with a well known

Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

2011-01-17 Thread Tom Davies
schrieb: Em 14-01-2011 16:16, Tom Davies escreveu: OTOH if people use the email address per...@openoffice.org then it gets the name OpenOffice out there and being seen by a lot of people. Free advertising! +1 For some people this is even a matter of pride, like wearing a t

Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

2011-01-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hello Tom, 2011/1/17 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Yes, obviously we can't force people to use any email address! For me the question is how to be attractive enough that people do want to choose to use it. Often just making something exclusive makes people want it more, especially

Re: [steering-discuss] Minutes of SC call 2011-01-13 for review

2011-01-15 Thread Tom Davies
Brilliant :)) A good answer to cover all the concerns raised. A small team with input from different mailing-list groups. General discussion about that website and all the 'local' ones can be kept to the website mailing-list with any luck. Perhaps an occasional report to SC would be the

Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

2011-01-14 Thread Tom Davies
January, 2011 19:21:10 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts Em 14-01-2011 16:16, Tom Davies escreveu: OTOH if people use the email address per...@openoffice.org then it gets the name OpenOffice out there and being seen by a lot of people. Free advertising! +1 For some

Re: [steering-discuss] contacting LibO and TDF domain holders

2010-12-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think it does need doing at some point if you are happy doing it then that is fantastic :) Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 27 December, 2010 16:15:05

Re: RE : Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-website] Website status

2010-12-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi We are still getting a lot of traffic in here about the website and i really think we need to avoid every group micro-managing every other group. People can easily join 2 or more lists to stay updated on different groups. David quite properly sent the email he was referring to to the

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-website] Website status

2010-12-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I like the way the website is at the moment. I also quite like the proposed screenshot except that i would prefer the download button on the left so that people can access it without having to scroll sideways. Ok, it may not be perfect for everyone but what we have got works well. It

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