brin: transparancey and software

2002-10-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,64688,00.html Stop, in the Name of 'Bots Thursday, October 03, 2002 By Glenn Harlan Reynolds Nowadays, it seems as if more and more law enforcement is being done by machines. Unfortunately, they don't seem to be up to the job. And the humans don't want

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:56 03-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: Um, no. You appear hell-bent upon reserving for yourself the right to define words the way you *want* to define them. Which, of course, cannot be said about the pro-Israel crowd... I consider this reason enough to determine that you are not

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:30 03-10-2002 -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: Your logic is flawed. There is no language (spoken language) on earth that conforms to mathematical precision. Well, then just in case I misinterpret the meaning of the word: Next time someone calls me anti-American (bound to happen again

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 01:30 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: :-) What was it you had posted to the list incessantly a few months ago? I'm still waiting for Jeroen to post proof and documentation to these accusations? You'd think I'd remember it better from having seen it a few hundred times. :-) Since you

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:24 03-10-2002 -0500, The Fool, once again true to his name, wrote: So now you are redfining the english language, even after someone has posted, the one and only definitive word meaning and usage from the unabridged Oxford English Dictionary. This is...Pathetic. Are you going to deny the

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Jeroen wrote: At 18:56 03-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: Um, no. You appear hell-bent upon reserving for yourself the right to define words the way you *want* to define them. Which, of course, cannot be said about the pro-Israel crowd... Ahh, so it's not *just* the Israelis, but all

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Richard Baker wrote: I think that the pseudonymity of the Fool is quite reasonable. After all, he or she has a consistent identity and so a coherent reputation that messages can affect. And how can we prevent that someone creates a false ID in one of those free e-mail services,

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:23 04-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: Um, no. You appear hell-bent upon reserving for yourself the right to define words the way you *want* to define them. Which, of course, cannot be said about the pro-Israel crowd... Ahh, so it's not *just* the Israelis, but all their

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
Omnia wankerae delenda est? Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) Two bits, four bits, six bits, a peso. If you're for Zorro, stand up and say so! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:58 04-10-2002 -0500, Marvin Long wrote: Omnia wankerae delenda est? Care to translate that into English? Jeroen Likud Delenda Est van Baardwijk __ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website:

RE: Brin: and Tolkien

2002-10-04 Thread Horn, John
From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Alberto Monteiro wrote: But look at the appendixes. Who rules the Shire after Frodo leaves? The servant, the son of the gardener. Isn't rules a bit strong? Will Whitfoot was kind of a joke wasn't he? His chief task being to preside over

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 09:58 04-10-2002 -0500, Marvin Long wrote: Omnia wankerae delenda est? Care to translate that into English? I think it's more fun in grammatically incorrect Latin. Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the

Political humor

2002-10-04 Thread Julia Thompson
Just got this from another mailing list. Should be OK to view at work if it's OK to look at political cartoons at work. (If it's *not* OK to view political cartoons at work, then wait until you get home, OK? I don't want you getting in trouble over a link I sent out)

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #3 (Hoonmor) (Hoonish humor)

2002-10-04 Thread Jim Sharkey
William wrote: Jim, thanks for breaking the streak. I was about to expect a message on the Georgian definition of anti-Semitism in Jefferson County. I'm afraid you're just going to have to get used to the games of My brain is bigger than yours that we play here. :-D Sometimes they're a lot

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Matt Grimaldi
At 16:36 03-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: Let me get this straight. English is a second language for you and you are claiming that the definitive source of English (OED) is wrong and you are right in defining an English word? J. van Baardwijk wrote: I am applying this horrible

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #3 (Hoonmor) (Hoonish humor)

2002-10-04 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 12:31:01PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I'm afraid you're just going to have to get used to the games of My brain is bigger than yours that we play here. :-D My brain is probably smaller than most, but it's denser. :D Bischoff, one of the

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 10:49:36 +0200 At 18:56 03-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: snip I consider this reason enough to determine that you are

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2002-10-04 Thread The Fool
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Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:13 04-10-2002 -0700, Matt Grimaldi wrote: But your case is flawed as well, Jeroen. You assume that the anti in anti-semite means the opposite of or the negative form of, when in reality it means denial of or enemy of or someone who is against You have not been paying attention then. I

Re: cars, air L3

2002-10-04 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: Re: cars, air On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:37:40 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: This is a huge assumption. This vehicle has many inherent efficiencies that might overcome these

who says what a word means?

2002-10-04 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Evil Empire: the World leader in executions At 14:25 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: Not that it matters, but Jeroen has been dismissing

The 2002 Ig Nobel Prize Winners

2002-10-04 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
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Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World (NOW WITH APOLOGY! BUY NOW!)

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:46 04-10-2002 -0700, Adam Lipscomb wrote: you have apparently decided to use your need to study for an important exam as a pretext for halting your participation in this discussion of of the meaning and origins of the term anti-Semite, That part of your sentence is true... with the

Natural Languages [was: Intellectual output from the Arab World]

2002-10-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Matt Grimaldi wrote: You seem to be ignoring the important fact of language, that words change in meaning, pronunciation, and spelling over time, and that such changes do not necessarily follow any strict logic. I once heard that en's _black_ came from fr's _blanc_, which means [as

Re: Definitions, Hey Julia

2002-10-04 Thread William T Goodall
on 4/10/02 3:21 am, Dan Minette at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World on 3/10/02 4:29 am, Dan

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:16:23 +0200 At 01:30 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: :-) What was it you had posted to the list incessantly a few months

First Words competition

2002-10-04 Thread Adrian Hon
Just thought I'd drop a line to y'all about the First Words competition that I launched today - it's for World Space Week and run by the Mars Society, and we're asking people what they think the first words on Mars will be. You can see the website at http://www.newmars.com/firstwords and our own

Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

2002-10-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Jeroen wrote: * You have not been paying attention then. I define anti-Semite as a person who hates Semites. It should therefore be quite obvious that, to me, the word anti in anti-Semite means enemy of or someone who is against. * I think it is you who have not been

Intellectual output from the Arab World (NOW WITH APOLOGY! BUY NOW!)

2002-10-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Jeroen wrote: * At 09:46 04-10-2002 -0700, Adam Lipscomb wrote: you have apparently decided to use your need to study for an important exam as a pretext for halting your participation in this discussion of of the meaning and origins of the term anti-Semite, That part of your

Papa Smurf runs for Senate!

2002-10-04 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
http://makeashorterlink.com/?S58422EF1 Montana's Libertarian candidate for Senate has turned blue from drinking a silver solution that he believed would protect him from disease. I don't discriminate against people based upon the color of their skin, but in this case, I'll make an exception.

Re: cars, air

2002-10-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: Re: cars, air While this may not affect global warming, it may make Houston smell better. :) You mispelled L.A. G xponent Houston, The 9th Most Polluted City In

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:45 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: And if you remember that, then you will also remember that since that time, the policy of this list is that nobody is required to back any claims with any proof. Now, I may have been deleting e-mails en masse, but for the record, to my knowledge

Re: Political humor

2002-10-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia wrote: Just got this from another mailing list. Should be OK to view at work if it's OK to look at political cartoons at work. http://www.defectiveyeti.com/iraqevite/ Julia p.s. I'd like to hear what your favorite detail is, if you have one Pizza?! Why didn't anyone

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World (NOW WITH APOLOGY! BUY NOW!)

2002-10-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:08 04-10-2002 -0700, Adam Lipscomb wrote: I'm not asking for an L3 post - just a simple explanation as to why you insist your position is the correct one. I have already explained that a few times now. I see no reason to keep repeating myself. Jeroen And now, off to bed van Baardwijk

Re: Political humor

2002-10-04 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Julia wrote: Just got this from another mailing list. Should be OK to view at work if it's OK to look at political cartoons at work. http://www.defectiveyeti.com/iraqevite/ Julia p.s. I'd like to hear what your favorite detail is, if you have

RE: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
Are we back to this, again? -Original Message- From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 03:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World At 17:45 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: And if you

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2002-10-04 Thread Julia Thompson
Note: the following response is intended as humor. The Fool wrote: http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/4213393.htm Can we come up with two words that begin with the letter 'B'? How about 'billion'? How about 'BOGUS'? Julia

Week 5 NFL Picks

2002-10-04 Thread John D. Giorgis
I went a very mediocre 8-5 last week, brining my season total to 38-20. ATS I was 5-9 for a season total of 32-27-1. Fortuantely, I split my two ATS bets in my Office Pool! The UPSET SPECIAL fell again in bizarre fashion, as the Browns found another creative way to lose, for a 1-3 record on

Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 06:28:06PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: Re: English, was: Intellectual output from the Arab World Still trying off and

Re: cars, air

2002-10-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/4/2002 6:38:26 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There will be no overnight switch to electric vehicles. This does not diminish their potential. I would consider buying an electric car as a second vehicle as soon as I can use it to drive from

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #3 (Hoonmor) (Hoonish humor)

2002-10-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/4/2002 10:13:54 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm afraid you're just going to have to get used to the games of My brain is bigger than yours that we play here. :-D Oh I do skim through many of them. Last time I did a test on the net, I

Re: White Dwarf of intellect one line zinger reply.

2002-10-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/4/2002 3:23:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So it's like a white dwarf of intellect? :) LOL Ouch! Is this from the previously-mentioned Handbook of Insults? And is it better or worse to be a black hole of intellect? (an argument could

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2002-10-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/4/2002 4:05:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can we come up with two words that begin with the letter 'B'? Bi and Both are both two words. Another perfect straight line feed. Vilyehm Teighlore - Sometimes you gotta go 'O'

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #3 (Hoonmor) (Hoonish humor)

2002-10-04 Thread Jim Sharkey
--- On Fri 10/04, Deborah Harrell --- Jim Sharkey wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: My brain is probably smaller than most, but it's denser. :D So it's like a white dwarf of intellect? :) Ouch! Is this from the previously-mentioned Handbook of Insults? And is it better or

Epic is now mundane. (Laid back rant)

2002-10-04 Thread Medievalbk
Today at a used bookstore that is actually a used media store but won't change their name because it just wouldn't be as cool, I saw a used DVD of Lord of the Rings. Already. If we all totally twist the English language, I'm thinking of redoing the slogan of the king of kitchen gadgets: See

Re: Animal and the slight visitors.... (renamed for humor)

2002-10-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/4/2002 6:02:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I were the link master, then I'd name my site www.porkouttoday.com As it is, I have mutton to do with that site. :-) Hmmph, cattle be the day! Wassamatter? Chicken?

Re: Uplift Urbane Legend #3 (Hoonmor) (Hoonish humor)

2002-10-04 Thread Reggie Bautista
William wrote: Jim, thanks for breaking the streak. I was about to expect a message on the Georgian definition of anti-Semitism in Jefferson County. Jim (I think) replied: I'm afraid you're just going to have to get used to the games of My brain is bigger than yours that we play here.

Scirth vs GP Hull

2002-10-04 Thread Joe Hale
I know this is a David Brin mailing list, but I have a question about the Known Space universe: Which is stronger, scrith or a General Products hull? Does anybody know? Any opinions? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-04 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote some stuff concerning the big 8 pagan festivals, and offered more details upon request. Debbi replied: 'Please, sir, may I have some more?' :) Official request I'm Not Lazy, I Was Just Drawn That Way Maru :-) I live to serve... This is a great page that links to pages about each of

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

2002-10-04 Thread The Fool
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not at all confused. Rather, it is quite clear to me that many people attribute a certain meaning to the word anti-Semite that differs from what I believe to be its meaning. This is the same kind of logic, quacks, holocaust deniers,

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-04 Thread Doug
J. van Baardwijk wrote: Just in case I misinterpret the meaning that poster attributes to the word anti-American... Do you mean anti-U.S. or does the term anti-American include Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, Argentineans, Peruvians, Cubans etc. etc.? Doug 8^)