From: Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Hey, I'm on ITunes!!
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:27:53 -0500
One or two of you may remember 3 years or so ago when I got all
excited because some of my lyrics made
One or two of you may remember 3 years or so ago when I got all
excited because some of my lyrics made it on to an album.
I just discovered that the album is available on ITunes.
The downside is that the song I contributed to is broken up into 4
parts. (At 17:41 running time
kerri miller answered:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone else hear use Itunes extensively?
I do I do!
Me too! Not only to play music on the PC, but as my interface with my iPod.
First, are you using this on mac or winders?
WindowsXP Pro (not SR2, yet)
1
At 10:50 AM 11/24/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
Does anyone else hear use Itunes extensively? I was wondering if anyone
else has noticed some of the idiosyncrasies/problems that I have. A short
list:
1. Shuffle. While I think that over a long time span the shuffle is
essentially random
kerri wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone else hear use Itunes extensively?
I do I do!
First, are you using this on mac or winders?
Winders.
1. Shuffle. While I think that over a long time span the shuffle is
essentially random, I've noticed that over a shorter period
Does anyone else hear use Itunes extensively? I was wondering if anyone
else has noticed some of the idiosyncrasies/problems that I have. A short
list:
1. Shuffle. While I think that over a long time span the shuffle is
essentially random, I've noticed that over a shorter period it seems
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone else hear use Itunes extensively?
I do I do!
First, are you using this on mac or winders?
1. Shuffle. While I think that over a long time span the shuffle is
essentially random, I've noticed that over a shorter period it seems
On Nov 24, 2004, at 12:27 PM, kerri miller wrote:
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Shuffle. While I think that over a long time span the shuffle is
essentially random, I've noticed that over a shorter period it seems
to
emphasize certain albums/artists (I'm working with a 4-5
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2004/jun/23itunes.html
CUPERTINO, CaliforniaJune 23, 2004Apple today announced that music
fans in the UK, France and Germany have purchased and downloaded more
than 800,000 songs from the iTunes Music Store since its launch one
week ago, with more than 450,000
http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5117275.html?tag=nefd_top
Apple Computer said Monday that it has now sold more than 20 million
songs in fewer than seven months through its iTunes song store.
Online buying patterns are also beginning to emerge, pointing to
potential ground rules for the new
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 05:17 AM
To: Brin-L
Subject: iTunes at Twenty Million
http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5117275.html?tag=nefd_top
Apple Computer said Monday
http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0460.html
One of my weekly music review must-reads, Glenn takes nearly an entire entry to muse
on the role of iTunes in a post-internet world.
(or something like that. Mandy Moore is in there, too)
-j-
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http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/nov/06itunes.html
Apple in Top Spot With Over 80 Percent Market Share
CUPERTINO, CaliforniaNovember 6, 2003Music fans purchased and
downloaded 1.5 million songs from Apples iTunes Music Store during
the same period that Napster reported selling 300,000
At 07:54 PM 10/26/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Ok, let it not be said that I never admit I'm wrong. I read another
review of the new music services (iTunes, MusicMatch and Napster) in the
Washington Post, and the reviewer praised iTunes and panned the others.
So I downloaded it, thinking if it's
On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 06:48 pm, Kevin Tarr wrote:
At 07:54 PM 10/26/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Ok, let it not be said that I never admit I'm wrong. I read another
review of the new music services (iTunes, MusicMatch and Napster) in
the Washington Post, and the reviewer praised iTunes
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 07:55 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: iTunes, iGive
I have one gripe - playing albums.
What William said.
deal except that the music
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:48:39 -0500, Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
(Me) Does that mean you like filler where others don't? Or (assuming
malice where I shouldn't, and trying to say this tongue in cheek) are
you saying others hear filler, where you have some better listening that
makes it
William T Goodall wrote:
You can drag the album name from the Browser (upper right) to the Source
list (left) to create an Album playlist that plays the tracks on that
album. Tracks play in the sort order selected by clicking the headers in
the middle pane. Track order/reverse track order,
Ok, let it not be said that I never admit I'm wrong. I read another
review of the new music services (iTunes, MusicMatch and Napster) in the
Washington Post, and the reviewer praised iTunes and panned the others.
So I downloaded it, thinking if it's that much better, I'll go through all
On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:43 am, Jan Coffey wrote:
16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at
the very
least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the
format
wars).
16 bits is what CDs use, so a lossless copy of a CD is 16 bit.
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--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:43 am, Jan Coffey wrote:
16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at
the very
least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the
format
wars).
16 bits
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reggie Bautista
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 04:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
** I'm not sure how much (if any) overhead the iPod has per
file, but the article
Jan Coffey wrote:
16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at the
very
least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the format
wars).
Extra bits are nice, but all they really give you is a bigger dynamic range.
What
I really like playing with (at 16
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Coffey
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:00 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
--- William T Goodall
Reggie, What are you using for recording?
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at the
very
least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the format
wars).
Extra bits are nice, but
Jan Coffey asked:
Reggie, What are you using for recording?
That depends. If I'm using my own equipment, I typically record to a
DAT machine at 44.1kHz and then run the signal in digital into my hard
drive and use ProTools, CSound, and various freeware and shareware
tools to capture and
William T. Goodall posted:
Just to footnote that there is a review at Stereophile Magazine, complete
with measurements and graphs and all, that concludes:-
The iPod's measured behavior is better than many CD players—ironic,
considering that most of the time it will be used to play MP3 and AAC
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Just for the record (pardon the pun), uncompressed cd-quality audio
takes up about 10 megs per stereo minute*
*44100 samples per second times 16 bits per sample equals 705600 bits
per second. 705600 bits per second divided by 8 equals 88200 bytes,
which rounds up to 9
I wrote:
Just for the record (pardon the pun), uncompressed cd-quality audio
takes up about 10 megs per stereo minute*
*44100 samples per second times 16 bits per sample equals 705600 bits
per second. 705600 bits per second divided by 8 equals 88200 bytes,
which rounds up to 9 megabytes.
Russell
Two clarifications.
I wrote:
I knew when I typed that it was under something didn't sound right.
That might not parse correctly without a comma and different word order.
It should read:
When I typed that it was under, I knew something didn't sound right.
And yes, I realize I misspelled
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
William T. Goodall posted:
Just to footnote that there is a review at Stereophile Magazine, complete
with measurements and graphs and all, that concludes:-
The iPod's measured behavior is better than many CD players—ironic,
considering that
Miller, Jeffrey wrote
snip
Excellent, excellent player. I've got the 30Gb model. It is
pricey, but worth it and highly recommended.
Anyone have a newer one? I'm selling my 10G today, and am debating the 20G
vs the 40G..
Bigger is better.
George A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Minette
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 04:58 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
- Original Message -
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 02:44 am, Erik Reuter wrote:
Yup, brainwashed. Are you going to become religious next?
Yup, brainwashed. You have joined the recording industry religion.
Preach the gospel, brother!
You were the one who brought up contributing to the artists. But I can
understand
wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I
can't play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
So much for ITunes. 8^P
I think the idea is to use iTunes as the player instead of whatever
inferior software you were
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 08:52:14AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
Is there an argument in there that I missed?
Yup.
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On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 01:15 pm, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 08:52:14AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
Is there an argument in there that I missed?
Yup.
So what was it?
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Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk
Blog :
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:10:38PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
So what was it?
Go back and read my prior message and try actually answering the
questions, then maybe we can get somewhere.
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Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:10:38PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
So what was it?
Go back and read my prior message and try actually answering the
questions, then maybe we can get somewhere.
Back to the netherlander sagas perhaps?
Ray.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:40:05PM +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote:
Back to the netherlander sagas perhaps?
If you think that, then you need to pay closer attention.
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On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger
wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I
can't play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch
jukebox?
So much for ITunes. 8^P
I think
Listening test? Right.
I'm talking about actual waveform analysis compared to the origional
sound.
Ah, so who cares what it sounds like - we'll tell you what you should be
thinking.
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
I always knew I'd see the first man on the
Apple: 1 million iTunes copies, songs in three days
By Peter Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
October 20, 2003 9:40 am ET
Last week Apple introduced its long-awaited iTunes for Windows software. The
software provides Windows PC users with the ability to buy music from the
iTunes Music Store
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 08:36 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G. D. Akin
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 02:23 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
William T Goodall wrote:
snip
The iPod doesn't rip. It is a player - mp3, aac
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
Listening test? Right.
I'm talking about actual waveform analysis compared to the origional
sound.
Ah, so who cares what it sounds like
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 01:11 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
Yes. It was run in the media lab of Salford University.
I'll see if I
- Original Message -
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
So I guess the simple answer to your question, Dan, would be that
fidelity to the sound of the original does not always equal
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 02:17 pm, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:10:38PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
So what was it?
Go back and read my prior message and try actually answering the
questions, then maybe we can get somewhere.
If I can find the time I might do that.
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 02:54:43AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 02:17 pm, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:10:38PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
So what was it?
Go back and read my prior message and try actually answering the
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't
play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 09:46 am, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 12:15 am, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 17 Oct 2003 at 15:24, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
as varied as Blackalicious (hip-hop) to Loreena McKennitt (world)
to
Lisa Loeb (pop). I've also found that
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 09:48:43AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't
play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my
a huge profit for themselves? Do you think with iTunes that you
will be able to use music you have purchased a license for on new media
that may come out in the future, without buying another license? Do you
think the license that you purchase actually gives you any important
rights to use the music
On 18 Oct 2003 at 9:48, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I
can't play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:48:43 +0100, William T Goodall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the idea is to use iTunes as the player instead of whatever
inferior software you were previously hampered by :)
Musicmatch is decent software, and I've got tome and money invested in it
as do many other
William T Goodall wrote:
snip
The iPod doesn't rip. It is a player - mp3, aac, aiff etc. The player
hardware is of very high quality - suitable for driving external
amplifier and speakers.
Excellent, excellent player. I've got the 30Gb model. It is pricey,
downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
So much for ITunes. 8^P
I think the idea is to use iTunes as the player instead of whatever
inferior software you were previously hampered by :)
Great thread, it's realy merging this list with the DSP list I am on.
Anyway, If the iToons incoding
tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
So much for ITunes. 8^P
I think the idea is to use iTunes as the player instead of whatever
inferior software you were previously hampered by :)
Except the iTunes software is BADLY inferior to a lot of the players
out there which use deacent
a phono record or cassette tape, when CD's came out the
recording
industry graciously provided you a CD copy of the music you are
licensed
to listen to, just for the cost of pressing a CD (a few cents) without
making a huge profit for themselves? Do you think with iTunes that you
will be able
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:07:41AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
The solution to the pie being divided unfairly isn't to throw out
the pie. Getting rid of IP seems like Luddism to me, a return to
the days of craft work and patronage. IP (copyright in the case of
music, books and films)
://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I
can't play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
So much for ITunes. 8^P
I think the idea is to use iTunes as the player instead of whatever
inferior software you were previously hampered by :)
Except
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 12:15 am, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 17 Oct 2003 at 15:24, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
as varied as Blackalicious (hip-hop) to Loreena McKennitt (world) to
Lisa Loeb (pop). I've also found that much of the Bethoven and Grieg I
ripped onto my iPod share this... tonal
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't
play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
So much for ITunes. 8^P
I think the idea is to use iTunes
On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 05:02 am, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 11:20:33PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some young people who think (if you can call it thinking) that they
have some kind of a right to download (i.e., steal) all the music
they want for nothing, no they
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:28:33AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
However little money the creators make when one buys the music it is
more than the 'none at all' they make when one steals it.
Wrong.
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 01:07:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you think it is evil to contribute money to terrorists?
Um...non-sequitur?
Do you know much about the record industry and RIAA?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell Chapman
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 04:03 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
I am. The hassle of all the backdoor spyware
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J. Chassell
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windo$e
Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
... I'm one of those freaks who
On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 10:04 pm, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
... I'm one of those freaks who can hear the sound quality
difference between mp3s and cds; drives me nuts sometimes.
Just curious: for you, what is the sound quality difference
On 17 Oct 2003 at 15:24, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
as varied as Blackalicious (hip-hop) to Loreena McKennitt (world) to
Lisa Loeb (pop). I've also found that much of the Bethoven and Grieg I
ripped onto my iPod share this... tonal wash-out.
That is largely to to the basic alogrythm the iPod uses
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't play
tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
So much for ITunes. 8^P
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iTunes and the iTunes Music Store are now available to users of Windows
XP and Windows 2000. Store still only sells in the USA.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/
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A bad thing
William T Goodall wrote:
iTunes and the iTunes Music Store are now available to users of
Windows XP and Windows 2000. Store still only sells in the USA.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/
Why USA only? It's not like there's shipping involved. Or security
issues. Or the content is exclusively from
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell Chapman
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 03:50 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
William T Goodall wrote:
iTunes and the iTunes Music Store are now
them? I have less than 500, and storage is
becoming an issue, and then there is finding one disk in the collection,
and then there is that awful moment when I say to myself, hmm which CDs
will I load today, and get daunted by the task of choosing.
So are you using iTunes? Or buying CDs retail
to download (i.e., steal) all the music they want for
nothing, no they aren't going to pay. But there are millions of people, mostly
somewhat older, who are not much into stealing and may not even know how, who
would. Especially when you consider how brilliant the iTunes Music Store is. Easy
Who, exactly, is losing a lot of money from this stealing you are
talking about? You don't suppose it is the creators of the music, do
you?
You think the only music being downloaded is from the major labels? That no
independent labels and artists who release their own CDs are being ripped
Do you think the most money is being stolen from independent labels?
Does it matter? Why rip off from ANYONE?
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the
last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:50:29AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does it matter? Why rip off from ANYONE?
Do you think the record labels ask that question? The RIAA?
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Do you think the record labels ask that question? The RIAA?
And their iniquity justifies someone else's?
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the
last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:55:18AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And their iniquity justifies someone else's?
Do you think it is evil to contribute money to terrorists?
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Do you think it is evil to contribute money to terrorists?
Um...non-sequitur?
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the
last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle
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