At 05:47 PM Wednesday 12/5/2007, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Dec 5, 2007, at 5:39 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 5 Dec 2007, at 00:55, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
And people who think like that are dangerous to themselves and
others.
On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:29 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
It *can* be evil, there are myriad times when it *is* evil, but your
statement that religion *is* evil is functionally equivalent to
saying
that, since some people are anaphylactically allergic to shellfish,
all shellfish are lethal
On 5 Dec 2007, at 00:55, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
Nick said:
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism
about
science
and good science. The country that includes a
On Dec 5, 2007, at 5:39 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 5 Dec 2007, at 00:55, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
And people who think like that are dangerous to themselves and
others.
Hence religion is evil.
No more nor less so than any other
Nick said:
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
science
and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
science
is the same country that excels in science. Therefore, one may leap
to the
conclusion that skepticism about science
On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
Nick said:
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
science
and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
science
is the same country that excels in science. Therefore, one may leap
to the
On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
Nick said:
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
science
and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
science
is the same country that
On 4 Dec 2007, at 19:44, Dave Land wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
Nick said:
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism
about
science
and good science. The country that includes a lot of
On 05/12/2007, at 4:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
And people who think like that are dangerous to themselves and others.
Hence religion is evil.
I don't agree that religion is evil. It just opens a large door to
evil by fostering unquestioning obedience.
Charlie
On 04/12/2007, at 11:03 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
science
and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
science
is the same country that excels in science. Therefore, one may leap
to the
On 4 Dec 2007, at 20:32, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 05/12/2007, at 4:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
And people who think like that are dangerous to themselves and
others.
Hence religion is evil.
I don't agree that religion is evil. It just opens a large door to
evil by fostering
On Dec 4, 2007 12:47 PM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it's true scepticism, and not denialism. The US is a leader of
science in spite of it's religiosity, not because of it.
It seems far more likely to me that the same freedoms that allow wacky
religious ideas (which is what
On Dec 4, 2007 12:32 PM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't agree that religion is evil. It just opens a large door to
evil by fostering unquestioning obedience.
I think this confuses a belief of certain religions with the general meaning
of religion. Religions are belief systems
On 05/12/2007, at 8:06 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007 12:47 PM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it's true scepticism, and not denialism. The US is a leader of
science in spite of it's religiosity, not because of it.
It seems far more likely to me that the same freedoms
On 05/12/2007, at 8:19 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007 12:32 PM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't agree that religion is evil. It just opens a large door to
evil by fostering unquestioning obedience.
I think this confuses a belief of certain religions with the general
Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
snip
There are iatrogenic illnesses, those that are
caused by
the healer. I have no doubt that there are
parallels in religion, but just
as we don't shut down hospitals because, for
example,
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:56 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 4 Dec 2007, at 16:26, Richard Baker wrote:
Nick said:
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about
science
and good science. The country that includes a lot of skeptics about
science
is the same country
On 3 Dec 2007, at 16:04, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Dec 3, 2007 1:41 AM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Darwin's theory of evolution met a far more skeptical audience which
might surprise some outsiders as the United States is renowned for
its
excellence in scientific
On Dec 3, 2007 11:02 AM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This demonstrates that skepticism leads to better science, right?
You're arguing that evolution is bad science?
No.
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation between skepticism about science
and good science. The
On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
In hopes of going somewhere more interesting with this topic, let me
offer
this challenge -- can you (or anybody else who can stomach the
subject) come
up with external causalities when religion and evil co-occur? If
we're
going to
On 4 Dec 2007, at 01:12, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
In hopes of going somewhere more interesting with this topic, let me
offer
this challenge -- can you (or anybody else who can stomach the
subject) come
up with external causalities when religion
On 4 Dec 2007, at 00:03, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Dec 3, 2007 11:02 AM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This demonstrates that skepticism leads to better science, right?
You're arguing that evolution is bad science?
No.
I'm pointing out that there's a correlation
On Dec 3, 2007 5:09 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The theory is that religion causes evil by clouding minds. That's the
causality. The correlation is there. QED.
It's hardly logical to state your premise and the correlation and claim that
you've proved something. But you
On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
And by the way, I left you an opening with the hospital metaphor,
but you
didn't grab it. There are iatrogenic illnesses, those that are
caused by
the healer. I have no doubt that there are parallels in religion,
but just
as we don't
On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:29 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 4 Dec 2007, at 01:12, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
In hopes of going somewhere more interesting with this topic, let me
offer
this challenge -- can you (or anybody else who can stomach the
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