not be able to answer, David, about how to block
Facebook trolls if I can't access their page to do so.
As I participate more and more on Facebook, I discovered out that it is
possible to selectively delete, or block, specific persons from reading your
comments, so you don't know
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Some time ago I unsubscribed from this list because of the comments of one
person who has since matured. Now I am having a similar problem with someone
on Dr. Brin's FB page.
If there is nothing wrong with me,
On 9/7/2010 3:19 PM, John Williams wrote:
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jon Louis Mannnet_democr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Some time ago I unsubscribed from this list because of the comments of one
person who has since matured. Now I am having a similar problem with someone
on Dr. Brin's FB
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM, David Hobby hob...@newpaltz.edu wrote:
Well, that was certainly helpful.
---David
I'm no help either, though.
We both helped increase list traffic, which has been quite low...
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frank, I don't think anyone can be of much help on this
matter with regard to Facebook. I think Facebook has made it perfectly
clear that it is not in the business of enabling discussion. It's in the
business of selling ads... Unfortunately, trolls use ads too. I suspect
trolls actually use more
Brin-L and Wiki and Trolls:
Brin-L and Wiki and Trolls--oh my
Brin-L and Wiki and Trolls--oh my
By the way the brain it dumbs, something Wiki this way comes.
Vilyehm
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Jon Louis Mann wrote:
... My sense is that this is a philosophical thing to him--he's in
the Deletionist camp on Wikipedia, who want to limit the number
of articles on non-notable topics. (He also questions articles
on minor academic journals, people I've never heard of, and so on.)
...
I don't understand turning the Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia into
a wiki format or what's a Brin Wiki, but I am all for doing anything to block
trolls from remove any of Dr. Brin's contributions to the SF lexicon.
I wonder why is someone running a seek-and-destroy against Brin; who
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I don't understand turning the Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia
into a wiki format or what's a Brin Wiki, but I am all for doing
anything to block trolls from remove any of Dr. Brin's contributions
to the SF lexicon.
Jon--
Hi. I guess the conversation got a bit
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I don't understand turning the Alliance for Progress
Encyclopedia into a wiki format or what's a Brin Wiki
but I am all for doing anything to block trolls from
removing any of Dr. Brin's contributions to the SF lexicon
Jon--
Hi. I guess the conversation got a bit
...
It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin
stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker.
The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan,
Tymbrimi, Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo.
...
If we want the articles
-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of David Hobby
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:42 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/
...
It seems like
, history, and strategy. Jimbo Wales has agreed:
Hard disks are cheap.
So, it's just trolls that want to remove fictional character pages;
after all, Dei Lucrii, Time Regained (film), Jia Xiaozhong,
Montesquieu-Guittaut, Märkische Schweiz (Amt), Homage for Satan,
and Pudian Road (Shanghai Metro
It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin
stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker.
I will save the articles in txt files; when the Brin wiki is set up
I will recreate them. It's a pity that the history will be
lost - I created those two
It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin
stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker.
The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan, Tymbrimi,
Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo.
It must be a Brin-hater.
http
-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:35 AM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/
It seems like
Julia wrote:
The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan,
Tymbrimi, Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo.
It must be a Brin-hater.
Any clue to the identity of the troll?
Who cares? Unless you are the owner of a Death Note, there's nothing
we could do.
...
It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin
stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker.
The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan, Tymbrimi,
Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo.
It must be a Brin-hater.
http
for
deletion _its_ articles!).
In the Portuguese wikipedia those trolls are severely
repressed; one editor who abused sock-puppeteering was
banned until after 2012-12-21.
If we want the articles to stay up on Wikipedia, the
best defense is references to them in books not written
by David Brin
Don't you also need a picture of his face for that?
-- Matt
- Original Message
From: Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.br
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:08:00 AM
Subject: RE: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III
Matt Grimaldi wrote:
It must be a Brin-hater.
Any clue to the identity of the troll?
Who cares? Unless you are the owner of a Death Note, there's nothing
we could do.
Don't you also need a picture of his face for that?
Yes - but it's easier to get the picture from the name than the
account, we might retaliate by proposing for
deletion _its_ articles!).
In the Portuguese wikipedia those trolls are severely
repressed; one editor who abused sock-puppeteering was
banned until after 2012-12-21.
If we want the articles to stay up on Wikipedia, the
best defense is references
language trolls away from deleting
relevant material - I can say I have been half-successful.
The pages for the books should also link to Alvin's
page. But wait, the entry at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity%27s_Shore
is just a stub...
Yes, it's a stub, and fortunately so. Another
to keep the Portuguese language trolls away from deleting
relevant material - I can say I have been half-successful.
Alberto--
Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going
back and forth with the troll, at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo
Some of this is because I don't
Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM
Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what
I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo
Maybe it's time to setup a Brin wiki
Alberto
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM, tship...@deru.com wrote:
I did not send the original to the list. Feel free to forward this to the
list.
I'm partial to MediaWiki.
I have installed MediaWiki here:
http://www.nickarnett.net/sfwiki/
We can create a domain name for it and point it there
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote:
And... anybody have a logo?
Nick
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to battle. I've tried
to keep the Portuguese language trolls away from deleting
relevant material - I can say I have been half-successful.
Alberto--
Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going
back and forth with the troll, at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo
On 29/12/2009, at 3:44 AM, David Hobby wrote:
Alberto--
Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going
back and forth with the troll, at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo
Some of this is because I don't really understand his
criteria, or what the problem is
On 12/28/2009 5:18, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Yes, it's a stub, and fortunately so. Another stupid decision
made in the English wikipedia was that spoilers are _not_
marked as such. Just take a look a the article about
English Wikipedia does provide standard spoiler warning templates, but
Charlie Bell wrote:
On 29/12/2009, at 3:44 AM, David Hobby wrote:
Alberto--
Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going back and
forth with the troll, at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo
Some of this is because I don't really understand his criteria, or
what
Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what
I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo
Maybe it's time to setup a Brin wiki
Alberto Monteiro
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Let's be more ambitious.
A science fiction and fantasy literary wiki! (And just when I needed a new
project too.)
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Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
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Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM
Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what
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Trent Shipley wrote:
...
A quick Google doesn't turn up any strong scifi literary wikis. Given
the structure of a well designed wiki, David Brin's Uplift Universe
should be a viable category effectively acting as a sub-wiki. In short,
you can have both.
...
From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote:
I could host it along with the list. I even set up a wiki there,
which I'm not using.
Sent that from my phone while waiting to see Sherlock Holmes (quite good,
but I had trouble understanding some of the dialog for
On Oct 8, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Dave Land wrote:
On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:57 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
That said I thoroughly approve of outing. Anyone who behaves in a
bigoted way deserves to be exposed to the very ridicule and scorn he
heaps upon others. An ex of mine never agreed with me on
On Oct 5, 2005, at 5:20 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote:
I'm fully in Warrens camp (from last Gay Penguins post) about this.
Hmm, it's a small step from camping to … well, never mind. ;)
GayCommunity, GayMarriage and GayPride are all consumate BullSh*t.
They're — to my mind — politically
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Oct 5, 2005, at 5:20 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote:
I'm fully in Warrens camp (from last Gay Penguins post) about this.
Hmm, it's a small step from camping to … well, never mind. ;)
The last 2 times I went camping it was with people who are interested in
the sorts
Check what these Trolls do for fun.
-
Gay Community Divided Over 'Outing' of Public Figures
Concerns About Privacy, 'Hypocrisy' at Center of Debate
By DAVID CRARY, AP
NEW YORK (Oct. 4) - Though decried by many gay
It seems we have more nattering ninnies! But a new breed, cowardly
whiners who only can whine when their victim can't read them! We have
known for a while that Brin-L is full of passive-agressives who whine
constantly while running sneaky attacks on people behind their backs. In
case anyone
On May 19, 2005, at 1:26 AM, Kevin Street wrote:
Is this some kind of subtle parody?
It might very well be.
--
Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books
http://books.nightwares.com/
Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror
http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf
Incidentally, this thread is still missing a few
countries from the Axis of Eggheads.
If you are waiting for me to chime in...
my momma taught me not to go near
wild things that are frothing at the mouth
Dee
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At 03:26 AM Thursday 5/19/2005, Kevin Street wrote:
Is this some kind of subtle parody? It seems wildly out of place for Brin-L.
Because of its subtlety, of course. Not because it is parody.
-- Ronn! :)
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At 10:23 AM Thursday 5/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are waiting for me to chime in...
my momma taught me not to go near
wild things that are frothing at the mouth
Yo momma warn't no dummy!
-- Ronn! :)
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On 5/18/05, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
on-list.
If you make many more personal attacks on-list, the probability of
your being placed on moderation will be non-zero.
On 5/19/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
on-list.
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
on-list.
If you make many more personal attacks on-list, the probability of
your being placed on moderation will be non-zero.
It seems we have more nattering ninnies! But a new breed,
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
on-list.
If you make many more personal attacks on-list, the probability of
your being placed on moderation will be
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
on-list.
If you make many more personal attacks on-list, the probability of
On May 18, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks
on-list.
If you make
On 19 May 2005, at 1:32 am, Dave Land wrote:
On May 18, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on
At 07:32 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Dave Land wrote:
On May 18, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I've been asked to ask you to tone it
William T Goodall wrote:
On 19 May 2005, at 1:32 am, Dave Land wrote:
On May 18, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote
* Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I've been asked to
anything.
I don't think this kind of thing is amenable to proof at all,
one way or the other. The post is below, for what it's worth.
---David
Who has quit conversing with trolls, sock-puppets and so on.
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