Re: Julia's Twins

2003-09-29 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Pensinger forwarded: ...have been born: Thomas James Katherine Carly (or Caroline or something like that). No promises on the spelling since I just received voice mail from her husband. Does anyone know the name [and site!] of the Hospital? Maybe

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-29 Thread d.brin
Kevin said: I have a different question. I've read a few opinions stating that the advanced countries are holding back third world countries by forcing them to adopt certain ideas, especially environmental policies. These countries cannot develop the way we did. I can see the wisdom in

Re: Movie/TV related books: was (A bit of a rant)

2003-09-29 Thread G. D. Akin
Steve Sloan II wrote: snip It's a common misconception that the movie was *based* on Isaac's novel. IIRC, he actually wrote the novel based on somebody else's movie script, but he wrote so quickly that his novel came out over a year before the movie. --- You're

Mussolini asked Pope to excommunicate Hitler

2003-09-29 Thread The Fool
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$G2QVPZSCUP2LZQFIQM GSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2003/09/27/wpope27.xmlsSheet=/portal/2003/09/27/ ixportal.html Mussolini asked Pope to excommunicate Hitler By Bruce Johnston in Rome (Filed: 27/09/2003) The Italian dictator Benito Mussolini

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread David Hobby
Erik Reuter wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:02:26AM -0400, David Hobby wrote: Betting that dark glasses really are dark at all reasonable wavelengths. You'd lose that bet. Most dark tinted glass passes light above about 1000-1100nm. Oh. Good to know. Just to clarify,

Re: Mussolini asked Pope to excommunicate Hitler

2003-09-29 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:02 AM 9/29/03 -0500, The Fool wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$G2QVPZSCUP2LZQFIQM GSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2003/09/27/wpope27.xmlsSheet=/portal/2003/09/27/ ixportal.html Mussolini asked Pope to excommunicate Hitler By Bruce Johnston in Rome (Filed: 27/09/2003) The

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:43:14AM -0400, David Hobby wrote: Oh. Good to know. Just to clarify, that's around 10,000 Angstroms, and above means of longer wavelength? Yes. The tinting is usually done with a semiconducting material, so light with wavelength longer than the bandgap

Re: Mussolini asked Pope to excommunicate Hitler

2003-09-29 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/29/2003 6:41:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure what the point of the article is supposed to be. Is the author claiming that excommunicating Hitler would have stopped WWII and the Holocaust (something I have doubts about), and

RE: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Chad Cooper
-Original Message- From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 6:55 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: The Eyes Have It On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:43:14AM -0400, David Hobby wrote: Oh. Good to know. Just to clarify, that's

Re: Mussolini asked Pope to excommunicate Hitler

2003-09-29 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mussolini asked Pope to excommunicate Hitler Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:33:04 -0500 At 08:02 AM 9/29/03 -0500, The Fool wrote:

Re: Ideal Scientific Equipment

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
rob wrote: Here's one for Ronn and Alberto: Some of the rest of us found this amusing too! http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/ideal/ideal.htm This is great! My favorites are SINGULARITIES and under Music of the Spheres, The Harmonious Oscillator by Erwin Schrödinger. Reggie Bautista Fun Stuff Maru

Re: memorization vs. idea space position

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: I pretty much agree with the rest of your post, but I disagree about this point. Yes, sometimes have ideas with potential but that are not fleshed out, but there are other circumstances where someone can actually have a great idea but honestly have trouble translating it into

Re: Popular Mechanics editors a bunch of cranks?

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
Chad Cooper wrote: So in the latest Issue of Popular Mechanics, they elude to some mounting evidence that the US used an E-Bomb against Baghdad the day the power went out. The Pentagon still denies using one. Comments? Only a minor one: the episode of Jake 2.0 that aired last week mentioned the

Re: Popular Mechanics editors a bunch of cranks?

2003-09-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a minor one: the episode of Jake 2.0 The Jury's Still Out On The Series Maru They must have changed channels or fallen asleap. This show is an exact - I'm talking exact ripoff of the one on SciFi. Can't remember the name just now becouse

Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Julia Thompson
Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. 19 long Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. 19 3/4 long Mom couldn't figure out how to get a long list of recipients into an e-mail on the package she's

Re: A bit of a rant (was SFBC)

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
George wrote: But, give me a break! I asked if the trilogies are worth reading. I get one non-answer and one, that does say yay or nay, but also informs me of the perils of CD clubs. I apologize. I had a friend who became upset after signing up for a book club and a CD club at the same time

RE: A bit of a rant (was SFBC)

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
George wrote: I'm starting to think this is the David Brin Short Attention Span List. Jim replied: This is news? When *hasn't* almost any topic been an excuse for someone to go off on a tangent? And wasn't there a recent thread where many of us talked about the fact that we have ADD/ADHD? :-)

Names

2003-09-29 Thread Julia Thompson
Catherine: We just liked the name, and there were a number of options for nicknames from it, so we could pick one to suit her personality once we had a feel for it. As it is, my mother is calling her Cathy, I'm calling her Catherine, and Dan is using one or the other, depending. It just struck

Re: SFBC

2003-09-29 Thread Julia Thompson
G. D. Akin wrote: I just received my periodic SFBC mailing. Two things of note: first, the hardback edition of Kiln People (#153262) is on sale for $5.00. Quite a bargain. Also Greg Bear's Vitals (#146423) is $5.00. Second, in one of the many additional flyers included in the

Re: memorization vs. idea space position

2003-09-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan replied: One of the interesting parts of this is that this question is not well suited to empirical verification. We are discussing ideas that are worthwhile, but never get communicated to the outside world. I think it is safe to say that

Re: A bit of a rant (was SFBC)

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
Bryon wrote: There are some other books as well. The two I have on my to-be-read stack are: -- To Dream In The City Of Sorrows - by Kathryn M. Drennan. The author is JMS's wife, so it's supposed to be pretty canonical as well. It's about Sinclair and the formation of the Rangers, I think.

Re: A bit of a rant (was SFBC)

2003-09-29 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: G. D. Akin wrote: I'm starting to think this is the David Brin Short Attention Span List. This is news? When *hasn't* almost any topic been an excuse for someone to go off on a tangent? The whole thing has me tempted to come up with a how many Brinellers does it take

Re: A bit of a rant (was SFBC)

2003-09-29 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote: From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] You asked The Fool, but I'd say the Technomage Trilogy is definitely worth reading, once you've seen at least Season 4. I haven't read any others yet, so can't say further. That is the only of the mentioned trilogies that shouldn't

Re: A bit of a rant (was SFBC)

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
David Hobby wrote: Got me, to my knowledge I've never read books set in a universe created for a film or TV series. To go out on a limb, are ANY of them worth reading? :-) But seriously... If you're a B5 fan, then at least the Technomage trilogy and the Psi Corps trilogy, as well as the

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin said: I have a different question. I've read a few opinions stating that the advanced countries are holding back third world countries by forcing them to adopt certain ideas, especially environmental policies. These countries cannot develop

Re: Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
Julia wrote: Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 And she will probably never grow tired of reminding him that she's older... :-) Congrats, glad to hear everything came out ok. [ducking]

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
d.brin wrote: Now, having said that, has America committed crimes? Duh! In protecting our farmers, for example, our price supports have wounded 3rd world farmers exactly BECAUSE we refused to let then tie their economy to ours! No problema. if we can't plant and sell oranges, we can plant

Re: A bit of a rant (was SFBC)

2003-09-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP yea yea yea, but what about the TWINS? = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 09:21:37AM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: There is also polarization that may help, No, polarized lenses cannot help stop a system from imaging of the eyes. Polarized lenses only block horizontally polarized light. The vertically polarized light will pass through just fine,

Re: Names

2003-09-29 Thread Russell Chapman
Julia Thompson wrote: I think the full name sounds nice. He won't - when things are good it will be Tom or TJ, but when he's in trouble it will be Thomas James Thompson, get in here!! Congratulations to you and all your family. May you all enjoy a wonderful life together. Cheers Russell C.

Re: Popular Mechanics editors a bunch of cranks?

2003-09-29 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jan Coffey wrote: more vulcan flesh, show more vulcan flesh, show more vulcan flesh, show more...well, you get the idea. Ahh, the sweet smell of pandering. :) At least they're not even trying to be subtle about it. Jim ___ Join Excite! -

Creeping thread ( was RE: A bit of a rant (was SFBC))

2003-09-29 Thread Jim Sharkey
Reggie Bautista wrote: This list has definitely been known for thread creep... More like thread gallop some days. Like this thread, for example. :-) Jim Creeping thread sounds like a Metallica parody Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

Re: Popular Mechanics editors a bunch of cranks?

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jan Coffey wrote: more vulcan flesh, show more vulcan flesh, show more vulcan flesh, show more...well, you get the idea. Jim Sharkey replied: Ahh, the sweet smell of pandering. :) At least they're not even trying to be subtle about it. Even with the increased pandering this season, the first

Re: Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. 19 long Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. 19 3/4 long Congratulations on the new babies, Julia! Best of luck with

Re: Names

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
William T Goodall wrote: 'Carling Black Label' is the name of the worst beer in Britain It can't be worse than Bud light, can it? Reggie Bautista My Dad Drank Falstaff Brand Maru _ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN

false advertising

2003-09-29 Thread Kevin Tarr
I had switched off a VCR tape and the station underneath was running an infommercial for after market All Terrain Vehicle mufflers. Here's the relevant passage: We measured the noise of the stock muffler, it was 83 db. With the new xyz muffler, the noise was 74 db. Since every -3 db means a

RE: Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Jim Sharkey
Julia Thompson wrote: Hey, folks, I'm home. Glad to hear all is well. Those are some big twins! *Insert obligatory God bless ya people give which actually means I'm S glad that wasn't me.* :) Jim Schadenfreud Maru ___ Join Excite! -

Re: Creeping thread ( was RE: A bit of a rant (was SFBC))

2003-09-29 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jim wrote: Creeping thread sounds like a Metallica parody Maru Or Anne McCaffrey's first horror novel, in which the people of Pern discover that Thread from the Red Star is sentient... Reggie Bautista Or Is That Sapient? Maru _

Re: Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/29/2003 1:36:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. 19 long Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. 19 3/4 long sip Or should that be snip,

Re: Creeping thread ( was RE: A bit of a rant (was SFBC))

2003-09-29 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 07:44 PM 9/29/2003 -0400, you wrote: Reggie Bautista wrote: This list has definitely been known for thread creep... More like thread gallop some days. Like this thread, for example. :-) Jim Creeping thread sounds like a Metallica parody Maru When I was a mechanic (and thank bog those days

Re: Names

2003-09-29 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 12:46 AM 9/30/2003 +0100, you wrote: On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 09:43 pm, Julia Thompson wrote: Karling: 'Carling Black Label' is the name of the worst beer in Britain, so if he ever comes over here there will be ribbing :) -- William T Goodall That's made in Britain? Beer

Re: Welcome to the Thompson Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread John Garcia
On Sunday, Sep 28, 2003, at 10:09 America/New_York, Jon Gabriel wrote: Congratulations Julia and Dan! :-D Jon Robin _ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee.

Re: A bit of a rant (was SFBC)

2003-09-29 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/29/2003 2:02:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The whole thing has me tempted to come up with a how many Brinellers does it take to change a lightbulb joke. I'll let you know if anything comes of it. :) Julia It only takes one Episiarch

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 11:44 pm, Erik Reuter wrote: Good point, very true. Of course, one could also wear false fingerprints. The problem of quickly and accurately identifying people is a difficult one, and one that likely won't be solved soon. They could use those chips they put in

Re: Popular Mechanics editors a bunch of cranks?

2003-09-29 Thread Jim Sharkey
Reggie Bautista wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: more vulcan flesh, show more vulcan flesh Jim Sharkey replied: Ahh, the sweet smell of pandering. :) Even with the increased pandering this season, the first couple of episodes have been much improved over last season... True. Though after a strong

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-29 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 10:25 pm, Jan Coffey wrote: What? would you have us allow our own people to fall into a 3ed world state within our own borders? And besides, we are not talking about fair comparisons are we? Sure, if you work people for 16 hours a day, and you work kids 6 and

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:28:19AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote: On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 11:44 pm, Erik Reuter wrote: Good point, very true. Of course, one could also wear false fingerprints. The problem of quickly and accurately identifying people is a difficult one, and one

Re: Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Steve Sloan II
Julia Thompson wrote: Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. 19 long Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. 19 3/4 long Does that make him a tom-tom? :-) Way to go, Julia!

Re: Welcome to the Thompson Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Bemmzim
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Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread The Fool
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:28:19AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote: On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 11:44 pm, Erik Reuter wrote: Good point, very true. Of course, one could also wear false fingerprints. The problem of quickly and accurately

HimmlerCrofts latest assault on the constitution

2003-09-29 Thread The Fool
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/33106.html FBI bypasses First Amendment to nail a hacker By Mark Rasch, SecurityFocus Posted: 29/09/2003 at 16:35 GMT Citing a provision of the Patriot Act, the FBI is sending letters to journalists telling them to secretly prepare to turn over their

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:39:24PM -0500, The Fool wrote: You put the chips in their clothes, easy to scan and remove their money, money is not unique to the holder -- can't identify someone their tires, pedestrians don't carry tires their keys, wouldn't work well if encased in a metal

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik Reuter wrote: No idea. Like you, I wonder about resolution. It seems it would take some really good (expensive) optics to get adequate resolution from a distance. Especially if it's a moving target. Doug ___

Re: Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Kanandarqu
Congratulations all around! Glad everybody is healthy and you have double the joy. Dee Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. 19 long Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. 19 3/4

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread The Fool
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:39:24PM -0500, The Fool wrote: You put the chips in their clothes, easy to scan and remove They can put them in riveted buttons, shoe soles, and the like such that you would have to damage your clothing in a significant way

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Kanandarqu
How do you get people to consent to have chip implants? And if they don't consent, how do you keep them from removing them? -- Erik Reuter I don't know about getting people to consent to implants, however in animals such as dogs the implants are known to move through the tissues which

Re: A bit of a rant (was SFBC)

2003-09-29 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:02 PM Subject: Re: A bit of a rant (was SFBC) Jim Sharkey wrote: G. D. Akin wrote: I'm starting to think this is the David Brin Short

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 29 Sep 2003 at 20:42, Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:28:19AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote: On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 11:44 pm, Erik Reuter wrote: Good point, very true. Of course, one could also wear false fingerprints. The problem of quickly and accurately

Re: Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia Thompson wrote: Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Congratulations, Julia and Dan! Glad to hear that you all are healthy and home already, I hope the induced labor wasn't as painful as the last time. By the way, how's your father in law doing? Doug

Re: Twins!

2003-09-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
The Alpha Mail wrote: p.s. I will not be fully on top of e-mail or listmail for some time. She says, in the first of five messages in rapid succession. 8^) Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread David Hobby
So you think that would be the method? Just pick a wavelength where glasses/contacts are probably transparent, and work there. No idea. Like you, I wonder about resolution. It seems it would take some really good (expensive) optics to get adequate resolution from a distance.

Re: Names

2003-09-29 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: Catherine: We just liked the name, and there were a number of options for nicknames from it, so we could pick one to suit her personality once we had a feel for it. As it is, my mother is calling her Cathy, I'm calling her Catherine, and Dan is using one or the other,

RFID chips, was Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: their keys, wouldn't work well if encased in a metal key, and if it is on the surface it is easy to remove From my experience they are keys with large black plastic encasings. Either way, they are required by the new cars to be able to start them. Yes, but

Re: RFID chips, was Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 29 Sep 2003 at 23:37, David Hobby wrote: destroy by washing machines and dryers. Or how about the printers that require specific brand ink cartridges that must have a chip from their own products to work (printer ink is 17 times more expensive than vintage champagne). I would

Re: The Eyes Have It

2003-09-29 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 29 Sep 2003 at 20:39, The Fool wrote: From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:28:19AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote: On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 11:44 pm, Erik Reuter wrote: Good point, very true. Of course, one could also wear false

Re: Names

2003-09-29 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/29/2003 8:48:31 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ---David Unique names are good(?). And sometimes necessary. Vilyehm Teighlore ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l