On 27 Oct 2008, at 03:12, John Williams wrote:
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So people who believe having an army, navy and air force to defend
the
country should make up the shortfall in funding when the pacifists
decide they'd rather not pay for that?
Defending the country is
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Their could be highly efficient and competitive private militias
instead of the inefficient government monopoly paid for by taking the
money of people who don't want to pay for it.
Perhaps there could. Still not redistributing wealth.
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Rceeberger wrote:
Even the Anchorage paper endorses Obama.
YeahI'd call that interestingG
xponent
Social Movement Maru
rob
Wait until Palin tries to fire the editorial board of the paper. :)
(um .. ma'am, they don't exactly work for you .. OK, that's it,
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
not so, the public seems to have swallowed
the latest redistribution of wealth upwards.
More like the politicians stuffed it down our throats.
and the sheep accept it, like they accepted the
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
Let's just put an end to ALL redistribution of wealth.
Let's start with the public schools and hospitals and keep going
with the
hatchet until nobody gets *anything* that they didn't pay for. Toll
booths
on every road and park!
Go put
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:52 PM, John Williams wrote:
Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We do need need someone to ride in and save us from disaster!
God will save us, if we have faith.
I can think of a segment of the population who are counting on God
saving them, who are very likely going
Their could be highly efficient and competitive private militias instead of
the inefficient government monopoly paid for by taking the money of people
who don't want to pay for it. Economic superstitions Maru
Black water is a highly private militia just like Andrew Carnegie’s forces
under Alan
this is quite illogical what democrat has spent more than the present
republican president?
Check this out at a price of $10 to $15 billion dollars a month there you have
it---your more than $700 billion dollars short fall. Cum on yall I'm sure yall
can count and think better than the crew you
Given that I was talking about how much a hypothetical Democrat would
spend vs. what a hypothetical Libertarian would spend, I don't see how
dragging a Republican into the mix refutes my statement. Your statement
is irrelevant in the context of what was said.
I'm not going to argue against
On Oct 26, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Bryon Daly wrote:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM, John Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Anecdote seen on the internet:
Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that
read
'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed. Once in the restaurant
On Oct 26, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote:
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, on my ballot, if I were to not vote for the incumbent in a
lot of
the state local races, that left me with a choice between a
Democrat and
a
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the Fed can't really even estimate or predict how
far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend even
years into the future.)
The Fed can't predict the housing market, the stock market, the CDS
market, or pretty much any market. Only
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
On Oct 26, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote:
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, on my ballot, if I were to not vote for the incumbent in a
lot of
the state local races, that left me with a
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:25 PM, John Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why assume that government is
inevitably the worst way to accomplish anything?
Why assume that you or anyone can determine how other people's
money should be spent?
Same old straw
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:24 AM, John Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
The financial industry is made up of a bunch of greedy people who think
they know more than they actually do. So is the political industry. I
prefer the former -- at least they can't force me to waste my money.
I take
Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I sure seem to have wasted some money involuntarily by trusting the
valuations created by incomprehensibly complex financial industry
instruments. How is that really different from trusting politicians?
Force does not equal choice.
Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Same old straw man. Consider me to have written the same answer.
You and that other guy with all your straw-man arguments. Maybe if you
got together you could form a support group and make progress towards
kicking your straw-man habits?
Dan M wrote:
There are 40 _trillion_ of credit default swaps out there.
Billions, trillions, quadrillions... Who cares? Dr. Evil was
frozen for 30 years and had to raise the blackmail from
1 million to 100 billion. Now, 1 trillion seems like nothing :-)
Let's adopt complex numbers in
Maree,
If, on your way South from Redding to Santa Monica you find yourself
in the Bay Area (somewhat unlikely, if you're going via Yosemite, but
hey), Nick and I are in the South Bay.
I, for one, would welcome the opportunity to meet another list member
in 3Space.
Dave
On Oct 25, 2008,
On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Williams wrote:
the Fed can't really even estimate or predict how
far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend
even
years into the future.)
The Fed can't predict the housing market, the stock market, the CDS
market, or pretty much
On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Williams wrote:
the financial industry is made up of mature adults who know what
they're doing so we should trust them and not get in their way
The financial industry is made up of a bunch of greedy people who
think
they know more than they actually do.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122506801638770679.html
For all of America's cherished belief in choice and freedom, it remains
an astonishing fact that the U.S. government forces citizens over the
age of 65 into a subpar health plan of its choosing. And so it is with
some hope that we greet a
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They can,
however, forecast based on mandatory reporting of transactions in most
markets, and make reasonably accurate assessments of the impact of
changes in those markets based on that forecasting.
ROTFLMAO
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*huge* if that, in all the times we've experimented with laissez-
faire market capitalism, has never been borne out in reality. Do we
really need to do this one more time expecting different results, or
can we agree that there is a need to have *some*
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
most people, and I *am* involved in the securities market in a few
ways that would, pre-crash, have been considered very sound places to
put my money. And I'm pretty sure that when I steel myself to look at
the statements for those accounts, I'm going
On Mon 10/27/2008 6:39 AM Bruce Bostwick wrote
Then again, an armed society is a polite society ..
Bruce,
We have found that in general Americans are the politest people we have met.
They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have certainly
speculated if this was in part due to
I am convinced that if the Fed or the government, despite all evidence
to the contrary, actually did have some ability to predict or even make
good guesses at what markets are likely to do, then it would have little
need of regulation. If the Fed chairman or Treasury secretary would have
spoken up
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Olin Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Surely the I that perceives is something. Just because it can't exist
outside a brain, doesn't mean it isn't real.
Its real in the same way that a whirlpool is real -- it has a form and
appears to be a thing even though
Then again, an armed society is a polite
society ..
Bruce,
We have found that in general Americans are the politest
people we have met.
They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have
certainly
speculated if this was in part due to the variety of arms
we have seen.
I still
I'm pretty sure that when I
steel myself to look at
the statements for those accounts, I'm going to
find they pretty much
tracked the Dow during its free-fall.
Way to blame somebody else for your problems! You should
run for office!
who do you think bruce is blaming, john, and
Lt Saavik wrote:
We have found that in general Americans are the politest
people we have met.
They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have
certainly
speculated if this was in part due to the variety of arms
we have seen.
I still shudder when a truck pulled up next to us
LOL. You're hilarious today. The government can save
us! Despite
all evidence to the contrary, it will be different this
time! Worship
the government! Government is God!
You need to take your meds, John. The government is Satan, under Bush/Cheney;
lesser demons take over when there is a
what does that say about the republicans that did not
vote for it?
Hmmm, I guess it says there were more of them than
Democrats.
at least those democrats who had the integrity to
vote against the bailout did so for the right reasons.
To get re-elected!
always with the sarcasm,
I think government is best at taking other people's
money and spending it less
desirably than those who earned it. Most people agree with
me, judging by the
tiny number of people who voluntarily pay more taxes. But
believing you know
better than others how to best spend their money is
Defending the country is a public good,
not redistributing wealth.
who is this country really in danger from? I say the robber barons.
bush/cheney have done more to help al qaeda recruit than if mohammed were
alive!~)
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So you rank among the very wealthiest people in
America? Congratulations!
I doubt that,he's justjust another Joe...
The anecdote you posted depicts Obama as wanting to
take ALL the money from
the haves to give to the
have-nots - i.e.: that he's a socialist.
Wow, there you go again
why, am i in danger, from who...?
No idea. Since you are down to your last refuge, I was just
trying to help redistribute the refuges.
are you really that dense, john,
I've been told I'm denser than I look. Never measured it, though.
how many times do i need to spell it out?
Could be a
Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
who is this country really in danger from? I say the robber barons.
Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Then again, an armed society is a polite
society ..
Bruce,
We have found that in general Americans are the politest
people we have met.
They are also incredibly welcoming and friendly. We have
certainly
speculated if this was in part due to
John Williams wrote:
Anecdote seen on the internet:
Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote
Obama, I need the money.' I laughed. Once in the restaurant my server had
on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political
preference
On 10/27/2008 9:24:30 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the Fed
can't really even estimate or predict how
far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend even
years into the future.)
The Fed can't
predict the housing
Wayne Eddy wrote:
From: Olin Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The I that perceives is not anything -- its an illusion, a trick of
perception and memory. It doesn't exist -- there is not fixed self.
Buddha knews that 2500 years ago, ?and modern science is showing him
right.
Surely the I that
Kevin B. O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In case you haven't noticed, John Galt is dead.
Have you got John Galt in a case?
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Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
they can make what money you have worthless.
If they means the financial industry, then no, they cannot.
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On 10/27/2008 3:28:52 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
who is this country really in danger from? I say the robber barons.
Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
Now that you mention it, that would be preferable.
Mauro Diotallevi wrote:
I shed skin cells all the time, and they are replaced by new cells.
The skin I had 20 years ago is literally not the same skin I have
now. Does that mean my skin doesn't exist, or is only as real in the
same way a whirlpool is real?
I am firmly of the opinion that
On 10/27/2008 4:44:45 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
they can make what money you have worthless.
If they means the financial industry, then no, they cannot.
If you ever end up wiping your ass with dollar bills because they are
cheaper than
Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you ever end up wiping your ass with dollar bills because they are
cheaper than toilet paper, give me a call.
Government is good at printing money. Financial industry, not so much.
Get your toliet paper from Paulson!
Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
Now that you mention it, that would be preferable.
So long as the robber comrades have a good supply of rubber
condoms. Please bend over, sir, it is for the
On 10/27/2008 5:07:40 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you ever end up wiping your ass with dollar bills because they are
cheaper than toilet paper, give me a call.
Government is good at printing money. Financial industry, not so much.
Get
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/27/AR2008102700289.html?hpid=topnews
No time to comment myself, but I thought some folks might be interested.
There's plenty of fodder in the article itself for commenting upon, I
think.
Julia
On 10/27/2008 5:11:49 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
Now that you mention it, that would be preferable.
So long as the robber comrades have
On 10/27/2008 5:18:13 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2008/10/27/AR2008102700289.html?hpid=topnews
No time to comment myself, but I thought some folks might be interested.
There's plenty of fodder in the article itself for
William T Goodall said the following on 10/27/2008 7:23 AM:
Their could be highly efficient and competitive private militias
instead of the inefficient government monopoly paid for by taking the
money of people who don't want to pay for it.
You mean like Blackwater?
Greed and Corruption
Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Government doesn't make toilet paper. Prices come from the finance industry.
My dollar bills say Federal Reserve Note and The Department of the Treasury.
What do yours say?
Dollar bills have little intrinsic value.
Must be because the government prints so many
John Williams wrote:
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
those people who -- OMGZ!!1! -- might need to depend on government
assistance for a while to avoid starving to death or living hand to
mouth in a homeless camp somewhere. I'd kind of like for those
programs to still be in existence
Ever notice that Sarah Palin anagrams to Sharia plan.
So, clearly, she's the one who plans to institute Muslim
law in the United States. Other anagrams include:
a sharp nail a plain rash. Any chance of a numeralogical
match with 666? Pleze?
Numerology is an easy science!
Sarah
Claes Wallin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Williams wrote:
That is one of the least evil forms of government spending, I agree.
Wouldn't that just be redistribution of wealth?
Yes.
Have I misunderstood that you consider redistribution of wealth bad and
spending on public goods acceptable?
I
1) Closest Planetary System Hosts Two Asteroid Belts (27 October 2008)
http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/Media/releases/ssc2008-19/release.shtml
New observations from NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope indicate that
the nearest planetary system to our own has two asteroid belts. Our
own solar system
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM, John Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I don't consider any process that involves the government forcibly taking
money from people good,
Oh, please. You live in the United States, right?. We had a revolution
against, among other things, taxation without
On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:12 PM, John Williams wrote:
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*huge* if that, in all the times we've experimented with laissez-
faire market capitalism, has never been borne out in reality. Do we
really need to do this one more time expecting different results, or
can
Nick said:
So I don't think any of us can justify whining about being forced
to pay taxes unless there's been another revolution that I haven't
heard about.
So if you aren't forced to pay taxes, what happens if you choose not to?
Rich
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In case you haven't noticed, John Galt is dead.
Have you got John Galt in a case?
Who is John Galt?~)
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On 10/27/2008 7:07:33 PM, Jon Louis Mann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
In case you haven't noticed, John Galt is dead.
Have you got John Galt in a case?
Who is John Galt?~)
Look him up on wikipedia.
Probably under Ayn Rand and various other nutcases.
xponent
Utopians Maru
rob
why, am i in danger, from who...?
No idea. Since you are down to your last refuge, I was just
trying to help redistribute the refuges.
are you really that dense, john?
I've been told I'm denser than I look. Never
measured it, though.
how many times do i need to spell it out?
Thanks Alberto
I hope we don't let you down...
- Original Message
From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:09:41 PM
Subject: Brin: from Saturday's blog
Ever notice
1) I am a fan of gridlock. I think if Obama wins, with a
Democrat
dominated Congress, there will be a lot of new spending.
I'm convinced
Clinton would have spent more if the Republicans didn't
dominate
Congress during most of his 8 years.
2) A surplus does not equal less spending.
In case you haven't noticed, John Galt
is dead.
Have you got John Galt in a case?
Who is John Galt?~)
Look him up on wikipedia.
Probably under Ayn Rand and various other nutcases.
i was being ironic, rob. i read atlas shrugged, and understand what the title
is supposed to mean.
On 27 Oct 2008 at 18:52, Lance A. Brown wrote:
William T Goodall said the following on 10/27/2008 7:23 AM:
Their could be highly efficient and competitive private militias
instead of the inefficient government monopoly paid for by taking the
money of people who don't want to pay
If you're trying to put food on the table, you may want
more than one
rifle for doing so. (Plus, if you're in rattlesnake
country, you want a
sidearm in case you find yourself too close to a rattler.
Just remember
to take the damn thing out of your bag before you go to the
airport
Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i prefer taxing the rich.
I prefer taxing Jon Louis Mann for all his money to reduce my taxes!
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A Democratic congress will tax the wealthy and
redistribute the wealth to the poor and middle class.
If McCain wins he will continue GOP policies of
subsidizing the corporate
state and cutting social programs. Jon
This is something I don't understand. If Obama is the
anti-corporation
i prefer taxing the rich.
I prefer taxing Jon Louis Mann for all his money to reduce
my taxes!
you won't even get enough to pay for your meds, john. the most i have ever
made in my life was $50,000, (in a year) and that was working two jobs... i
pay the max because i use the short form.
We had a revolution
against, among other things, taxation without representation. In case you
forgot, we won.
I'd be ecstatic to go back to the taxation/spending levels of that time. Or even
the pre-war 1900's.
Whether or not we deserve the government we have, we chose it,
give or take
Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
you won't even get enough to pay for your meds, john. the most i have ever
made
in my life was $50,000, (in a year) and that was working two jobs...
That's okay, I'll take it.
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Andrew Crystall said the following on 10/27/2008 8:40 PM:
On 27 Oct 2008 at 18:52, Lance A. Brown wrote:
William T Goodall said the following on 10/27/2008 7:23 AM:
Their could be highly efficient and competitive private militias
instead of the inefficient government monopoly paid for by
you won't even get enough to pay for
your meds, john. the most i've ever made
in a year was $50,000, and that was
working two jobs...
That's okay, I'll take it.
i have $10 for julia, but i prefer the government to spend my taxes on social
programs...
as usual you dodge the
Does that mean my skin doesn't exist, or is only as real in the same
way a whirlpool is real?
It means that seeing your skin as some kind of permanent continuous thing is a
fallacy. The skin you had twenty years ago was real and the skin you have now
is real, but they are not the same thing.
Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t i prefer the government to spend my taxes on social
programs...
And you prefer even more to have the goverment spend OTHER
people's money on social programs. But you don't want other
people to spend YOUR money on their preferred applications.
Robber baron,
i prefer the government to spend my taxes on social
programs...
jon
And you prefer even more to have the goverment spend OTHER
people's money on social programs. But you don't
want other
people to spend YOUR money on their preferred applications.
Robber baron, robber comrade, you fit
Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where do you fit in, john?
50% of taxpayers (by AGI) collectively pay for about 97% of the
total government spending, and the other 50% of taxpayers
only pay for 3%. I'm part of the 97% group.
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At 04:48 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Claes Wallin wrote:
[snip]
Modern version (and possibly a digression):
(1) If a country's government is forced out of the capital and loses
control of most of the country, is the area controlled by that
government still the original country, only with a drastically
At 04:40 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Rceeberger wrote:
On 10/27/2008 9:24:30 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the Fed
can't really even estimate or predict how
far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend even
years into
At 03:30 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Then again, an armed society is a polite
society ..
An armed society is a polite society. Manners
are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond
At 11:38 AM Monday 10/27/2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dan M wrote:
There are 40 _trillion_ of credit default swaps out there.
Billions, trillions, quadrillions... Who cares? Dr. Evil was
frozen for 30 years and had to raise the blackmail from
1 million to 100 billion. Now, 1 trillion seems
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:56 PM, John Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
So your position is, if a majority votes for some policy, then no one
should have a right to complain about it because the majority rules?
That's the sort of statement that results in complaints about straw man
arguments.
Rceeberger wrote:
On 10/27/2008 7:07:33 PM, Jon Louis Mann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
In case you haven't noticed, John Galt is dead.
Have you got John Galt in a case?
Who is John Galt?~)
Look him up on wikipedia.
Probably under Ayn Rand and various other nutcases.
Umm, actually Who is John
Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:56 PM, John Williams
wrote:
So your position is, if a majority votes for some policy, then no one
should have a right to complain about it because the majority rules?
No, that's not my position. Not at all.
My position is
At 07:13 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
why, am i in danger, from who...?
No idea. Since you are down to your last refuge, I was just
trying to help redistribute the refuges.
are you really that dense, john?
I've been told I'm denser than I look. Never
measured it,
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
i prefer the government to spend my taxes on social
programs...
jon
And you prefer even more to have the goverment spend OTHER
people's money on social programs. But you don't
want other
people to spend YOUR money on their preferred
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 03:30 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Julia Thompson wrote:
If you're trying to put food on the table, you may want more than one
rifle for doing so. (Plus, if you're in rattlesnake country, you want a
sidearm in case you find yourself too close to a
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote:
Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:56 PM, John Williams
wrote:
So your position is, if a majority votes for some policy, then no one
should have a right to complain about it because the majority rules?
No, that's not my
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
Mostly that was just a weird story that leaves you going Huh?, but
false analogy is used a lot. One of the best ones was popular some years
back, before the Republican party descended into outright criminality.
It goes like this: The
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, your view of democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have
for lunch?
Nicely put.
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, John Williams wrote:
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, your view of democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have
for lunch?
Nicely put.
Not original to me. Maybe Benjamin Franklin? Or at least I think I've
seen him credited with it, whether or not
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not original to me. Maybe Benjamin Franklin? Or at least I think I've
seen him credited with it, whether or not he actually said it.
Good memory. It sounded familiar, but I couldn't place it. The source seems
to be somewhat obscure, but you remembered the
Kevin B. O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My favorite quote is from Nero Wolfe: A man condemning the income tax
because of the annoyance it gives him or the expense it puts him to is
merely a dog baring its teeth, and he forfeits the privileges of
civilized discourse.
...
Inflammatory
At 10:05 PM Monday 10/27/2008, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
Mostly that was just a weird story that leaves you going Huh?, but
false analogy is used a lot. One of the best ones was popular some years
back, before the Republican party descended into outright criminality.
It goes like this: The
On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Jon Louis Mann straw-manned:
a lot of people called congress, against the bailout, but the people
who didn't are the sheep and they are largely those who buy into the
war and straw man attacks against obama.
I doubt very much that you actually know what was in
Folks,
On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:28 PM, John Williams wrote:
Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
who is this country really in danger from? I say the robber barons.
Down with the robber barons! Up with the robber comrades!
Please lighten up on John. He's cornered and his messages sound like
he's
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