Re: Do anything fun over the weekend?

2004-03-28 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/28/2004 10:32:42 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Do you by chance own a Land Rover? > Astro Van. Not a rover, fido, spot, spike, or snoopy ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
Kevin Tarr: > In fact, it wasn't a job transition. He retired; he retired because he > wasn't offered a better job. You think the public wouldn't notice if he > dissed the president when he quit and they retaliated by canceling his > pension or some such? Many people retire from government and th

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 12:26 AM 3/29/2004, you wrote: Kevin wrote: What was in the articles, the apology? The fact that the book was published by an affiliate of CBS. So Rice had no idea what/who Al Quedia was even though she gave a speech about them a year before? 'sfunny how a person can write a book and everyth

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-28 Thread Keith Henson
At 01:03 PM 27/03/04 -0800, you wrote: Dave says that violence only begets violence: > If 4000 years of endless war in the Middle East have taught > us nothing else, it is that more violence only leads to more > violence. We're not dealing with a surly teen-ager here, who > will go into his room a

Re: Do anything fun over the weekend?

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Matthew wrote: This weekend I watched my friend put his new two-seater ultralight into the air. While doing this we ate Oreo's and chocolate milk. Anneka walked for 8 consecutive steps! Then we ate hot dogs at the park. Video rolling? How long has she been walking? Coming out of class Satur

Re: Do anything fun over the weekend?

2004-03-28 Thread Damon Agretto
> This weekend I watched my friend put his new two-seater ultralight into the > air. While doing this we ate Oreo's and chocolate milk. Ah, one of the regrets of my life is that I never went for a pilot's license. Probably couldn't afford it now, but I've always enjoyed flying... Only things I d

Re: Do anything fun over the weekend?

2004-03-28 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos
On 3/29/04 12:22 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oreo's are for regular milk. > Vanilla wafers are for chocolate milk. The best is hand-dipped chocolate Oreo's with chocolate milk. It goes like this 1. Bite corner of cookie 2. Dunk bitten corner of cookie into chocolate

Re: Do anything fun over the weekend?

2004-03-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 12:00 AM 3/29/2004, you wrote: This weekend I watched my friend put his new two-seater ultralight into the air. While doing this we ate Oreo's and chocolate milk. Anneka walked for 8 consecutive steps! Then we ate hot dogs at the park. Just a non-political break in the action, Matthew Bos Bi

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Kevin wrote: What was in the articles, the apology? The fact that the book was published by an affiliate of CBS. So Rice had no idea what/who Al Quedia was even though she gave a speech about them a year before? 'sfunny how a person can write a book and everything in it is Credible and the Trvt

Re: Do anything fun over the weekend?

2004-03-28 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/28/2004 10:02:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This weekend I watched my friend put his new two-seater ultralight into the > air. While doing this we ate Oreo's and chocolate milk. Anneka walked for > 8 consecutive steps! Then we ate hot dogs at

RE: Ease the pain but don't stop offshoring

2004-03-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
Mostly agreeing with all Mike wrote, but there are other sides of the story too, where the gov should have been doing something and didn't. Bethlehem steel is the biggest one I know; they didn't fund their retirement plans properly, they declared bankruptcy and the gov is left holding the bag.

Do anything fun over the weekend?

2004-03-28 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos
This weekend I watched my friend put his new two-seater ultralight into the air. While doing this we ate Oreo's and chocolate milk. Anneka walked for 8 consecutive steps! Then we ate hot dogs at the park. Just a non-political break in the action, Matthew Bos ___

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican and the US elections > At 09:25 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >What is happening is that a candida

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican and the US elections > At 07:59 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >I did make that distinction, and yo

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Tarr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:32 PM Subject: Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth > At 08:11 PM 3/28/2004, you wrote: > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "John D. Gior

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:57 PM 3/28/2004, you wrote: Kevin wrote: 60 Minutes' Lesley Stahl just offered an apology for not stating the Clarke book was published by a CBS sister company. That was in all the articles about the interview at the CBS website - including those published before the interview. The impor

wonderful website

2004-03-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx Found this accidentally. Gives an estimation of TV stations that can be picked up over the air at your location, with types of antenna needed. At my house I can get four stations easy, two more with a powered antenna, and another ten weak signals. I loo

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 07:59 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >But that is OK. I can still respect you even when we disagree, but it >would sure help if you didn't suspect me of being your worst enemy. You aren't my worst enemy.You aren't even my enemy. You are just habitually prone to making comments

The Most Laughable Thing

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
The funniest thing about Mr. Seeberger's allegations that the Vatican is trying to influence the US Presidential election in favor of President Bush is that the Vatican has been one of the most vocal opponents of this Administration's policies, anywhere - particularly when it comes to The War in Ir

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:25 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >What is happening is that a candidates >character is being questioned, But don't you view the opportunity for John Kerry to disagree with the Catholic Church to be a good thing? >Surely they can. For me the issue is that they are being selectiv

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:24 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican and the US elections > At 08:04 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >But how do you see Kerry being a ca

RE: Ease the pain but don't stop offshoring

2004-03-28 Thread Mike Lee
Kevin pointed out that big business gets "job retraining" too when it screws up: > problem with the above statement, the government does spend > my tax dollars propping up companies that are failing in the > market place like airlines and farming. In PA they are paying > parts of a doctor's mal

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Kevin wrote: 60 Minutes' Lesley Stahl just offered an apology for not stating the Clarke book was published by a CBS sister company. That was in all the articles about the interview at the CBS website - including those published before the interview. The important thing here is what Clarke is s

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:24 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican and the US elections > At 08:04 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >But how do you see Kerry being a ca

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:04 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >But how do you see Kerry being a candidate being an issue in the >Vatican's name. >The Vatican doesn't own anybody, nor does it control anyone's personal >opinion. >Issues of American governance are not the Vatican's problem. Kerry has become on

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
What is really scary is that their is a significant minority of 'Christians' who believe exactly like Mr. Lee does. It is one of the reasons why I believe homo sapiens will go extinct within the next century. At least all the ones alive now will be extinct. OSL Kevin T. - VRWLC In honor of Detr

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican and the US elections > At 08:21 PM 3/28/2004 -0500 John D. Giorgis wrote: > >Moreover, the question you have kept

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican and the US elections > At 06:58 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >Only you seem to see it as an insul

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-28 Thread Damon Agretto
> Almost All of them. At least the major ones anyway. Where is your evidence, then? Damon. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:21 PM 3/28/2004 -0500 John D. Giorgis wrote: >Moreover, the question you have kept on dodging - do you really believe >that the Vatican has no business whatsoever in evaluating the positions >taken in his name? Sorry, that should be "its name." JDG ___

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:11 PM 3/28/2004, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth > At 08:23 PM 3/27/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: > >3) I

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:58 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >Only you seem to see it as an insult, and I think that is because you >really really want to. Then again, I'm the only devout Catholic, AFAIK, here. >> The Vatican issued last year a "doctrinal note" warning Catholic >lawmakers >> that they

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: Kevin Tarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What religion is based on killing > unbelievers, subjugating all women, (and a other things). I hope you don't > need a hint on these questions skippy. Almost All of them. At least the major ones anyway. __

Re: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: John Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >From: "Mike Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >I'm tired of being moderate. And I'm not scared of Islam in any > >ultimate-threat-to-civilization sense. They're going down, it's just how > >hard they're going to go down. I'm sick of this crap, and it wouldn't

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 05:57 PM 3/28/2004, you wrote: From: "Mike Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:17:20 -0800 I'm tired of being moderate. And I'm not scared of

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:45 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican and the US elections > At 06:28 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: > >Yes. It makes every catholic lawmaker and

Re: Situation Update: Investigations

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:41 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: >For the record, there are no high profile investigations of any Democrats >right now. >The House and Senate Intelligence Committees are both investigating >intelligence lapses heading up to the Iraq War. This investigation covers both Republicans and

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth > At 08:23 PM 3/27/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: > >3) If he is opposed to the Iraq war

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Damon Agretto
> The Vatican has one of the Bloodiest histories of any organization. More > people have died from direct actions of the Vatican, then have died from > all existing and extinct terrorist groups combined. Al Qaida has NOTHING > on the Atrocities perpetrated by the Vatican. For JDG to imply otherw

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:14 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican and the US elections > At 01:38 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >Anti Catholic bigotry? > > Yes.

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 06:28 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: > >Yes. It makes every catholic lawmaker and candidate suspect, including > >Mr. Kerry. Because of statements such as these NO catholic can ever be, > >or will ever be, trusted. > > > >Catholic Lawmakers an

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Learn when a question is rhetorical. > > I will do so when you learn to think critically and from a balanced > perspective. The Vatican has one of the Bloodiest histories of any organization. More people have died from direct actions of the Vatica

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:28 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: >Yes. It makes every catholic lawmaker and candidate suspect, including >Mr. Kerry. Because of statements such as these NO catholic can ever be, >or will ever be, trusted. > >Catholic Lawmakers and Executives and Civil Servants who obey the Pope >over t

RE: Irregulars Questions about Linux

2004-03-28 Thread John Doe
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Irregulars Questions about Linux Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:57:38 -0600 Is there any way to know what commands I should pass to the pppd command opt

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-28 Thread John Doe
From: "Mike Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:17:20 -0800 I'm tired of being moderate. And I'm not scared of Islam in any ultimate-threat-to-ci

Clarke OKs Release of His Testimony, Documents

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30992-2004Mar28.html] or http://tinyurl.com/2kpvj "I would welcome it being declassified, but not just a little line here or there. Let's declassify all six hours of my testimony," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press." Senate Majority Leader Bill Fris

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > That is funny, Mr. Seeberger, because in that article almost all of the > references were to officials in the Catholic Church of the United States. > The only reference to the Vatican I found in the article was the following: > > The Vatican issued

Re: The Vatican and the US elections

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:38 PM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >Anti Catholic bigotry? Yes.The idea that the Catholic Church could exert Authoritarian control over the US is one of the oldest saws of anti-Catholic bigots. To say nothing of your sickening insult. >For the Vatican (and note that I am dif

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: > > Any politician who obeys the Pope over the U.S. Constitution should be > arrested for high crimes and treason, and then hung till he is dead. > I suspect that this is irony, but if taken seriously, it would make the USA the worse tyranny that ever existed. Even worse than the Na

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: > > Crusades. Inquisitions. Witch Hunts. Burning people at the stake. > Forced conversions at swordpoint. Pogroms. Ethnic/Religious Cleansing. > Yes I would put the actions of the Roman catholic church with other > 'Axis' powers. > By the same logic that you blame the current c

Re: First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic/Controversy

2004-03-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert Seeberger asked: > > Alberto, how do you see this? > Didn't see anything. But the weather was crazy this Summer, with hot days followed by rainy days. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: RednecKKKlans stalk and assault gay web-poster

2004-03-28 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:09:52 -0600, The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > < > 07322450>> > > > > A political hate crime > > The victim is a friend of my daughter. I heard about this yesterday from > her. > > Doug Gaa

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Damon Agretto
> Learn when a question is rhetorical. I will do so when you learn to think critically and from a balanced perspective. Damon. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Are any of the actions you listed in the same catagory as Genocide, > > Ethnic Cleansing, or Terrorism? > > Actually, yes they are Fool. > > Study history. Read a book. Learn when a question is rhetorical. _

The color of truth (part 4)

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Mike Lee wrote: Doug can't believe I'm serious: Imploding? Are you serious? There's some serious straw clutching in the above linked articles. Absolutely peanuts compared to the misinformation being spewed by BushCo. What color is the truth in your world? more colors I could go on and on with

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Damon Agretto
> Are any of the actions you listed in the same catagory as Genocide, > Ethnic Cleansing, or Terrorism? Actually, yes they are Fool. Study history. Read a book. Damon. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

The color of truth (part 2)

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Mike Lee wrote: What color is the truth in your world? Then ther's this color: [http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=39039] or http://tinyurl.com/3xvws 9/11: Internal Government Documents Show How the Bush Administration Reduced Counterterrorism March 22, 2004 Backgrounde

The color of truth (L3) (part 1)

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:17:20 -0800, Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Doug can't believe I'm serious: Imploding? Are you serious? There's some serious straw clutching in the above linked articles. Absolutely peanuts compared to the misinformation being spewed by BushCo. What color is the tr

The color of truth (part 3)

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:17:20 -0800, Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Doug can't believe I'm serious: Imploding? Are you serious? There's some serious straw clutching in the above linked articles. Absolutely peanuts compared to the misinformation being spewed by BushCo. What color is the tr

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Crusades. Inquisitions. Witch Hunts. Burning people >at the stake. > > Forced conversions at swordpoint. Pogroms. >Ethnic/Religious Cleansing. > > Yes I would put the actions of the Roman catholic >church with other > > 'Axis' powers. > > Slave

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Damon Agretto
> Crusades. Inquisitions. Witch Hunts. Burning people >at the stake. > Forced conversions at swordpoint. Pogroms. >Ethnic/Religious Cleansing. > Yes I would put the actions of the Roman catholic >church with other > 'Axis' powers. Slavery. Racism. War of Agression. Discriminary Laws. Yes I wo

Re: RednecKKKlans stalk and assault gay web-poster

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:09:52 -0600, The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <> A political hate crime The victim is a friend of my daughter. I heard about this yesterday from her. -- Doug

Situation Update: RednecKlans Under Investigation

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
<> Republicans under investigation by kos Sun Mar 28th, 2004 at 16:53:13 GMT For the record, there are no high profile investigations of any Democrats right now. Too bad the same can't be said about Republicans. In no particular order: The Sen

RE: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Mike Lee
Mr. Giorgis, who, I presume is Catholic, defends his pope: > Comparing the Catholic Church to the "Axis" and calling it > "Authoritarian" > is the sort of hack insult I would only expect from the most > virulent of > bigots. If the pope opens his drooling, stupid, senile mouth to address politi

RE: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Mike Lee
Dan defends Dick: > I don't think this is all that clear. In this morning's paper, he was > defended by Powell, saying he was a dedicated public servant. > Let me quote > from a NY Times story in the Houston Chronicle > > "In a television interview, Powell said Clarke had 'served > his nation

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > From: John D. Giorgis > > > > At 11:24 AM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > > >Axis Of Authoritarianism Maru > > John wrote: > > Please take your statements of anti-Catholic bigotry to > > another List, Mr. Seeberger. > > Bigotry? Isn't tha

RE: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Gary Nunn
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John D. Giorgis > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 1:11 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections > > > At 11:24 AM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote

RednecKKKlans stalk and assault gay web-poster

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
<> A political hate crime Saturday, March 27, 2004 Now comes a fairly clear-cut case of a politically inspired assault by right-wingers on a gay man in Atlanta -- in fact, it appears they drove all the way from a

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:10 PM Subject: Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections > At 11:24 AM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >Axis Of Authoritariani

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 11:24 AM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: > >Axis Of Authoritarianism Maru > > Please take your statements of anti-Catholic bigotry to another List, Mr. > Seeberger. > > Comparing the Catholic Church to the "Axis" and calling it "Authorit

Re: Br!n: We're Pleased with the Cooperation [the House ofSaud Has]Provided

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
> From: John D. Giorgis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 01:22 AM 3/27/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: > >Was there any substantive reason in January 2002 not to say that Treasury > >Undersecretary John Taylor and other senior administration officials were > >angry and deeply upset at the failure of Saudi A

RE: Belief (was: (no subject))

2004-03-28 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:58 PM 3/27/04, Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Belief (was: (no subject)) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:35:42 -0800 (PST) > Do you really believe that, or are

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:13 PM 3/25/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: >"Bush protests now: "And had my administration had any information that >terrorists were going to attack New York City on September 11, we would >have acted." At which point, you no doubt would have complained about the Bush Administration's vi

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:23 PM 3/27/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: >3) If he is opposed to the Iraq war because he things it hurts the war on >terrorism, then resigning about the time of the start of the Gulf war is >consistent with that being the point where he ceased to think he can do >more good from the inside...t

Re: The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:24 AM 3/28/2004 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: >Axis Of Authoritarianism Maru Please take your statements of anti-Catholic bigotry to another List, Mr. Seeberger. Comparing the Catholic Church to the "Axis" and calling it "Authoritarian" is the sort of hack insult I would only expect from th

Re: Brin: We're Displeased with the Concentration towards email.

2004-03-28 Thread Medievalbk
Our good Dr. Brin is supposedly answering email while at a Con. Go have fun. save the world on Monday. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Clarke Imploding Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:23 PM 3/27/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: >5) The timing of the book is not unreasonable as far as I can tell. It is still suspicious that John Kerry just happened to go on vacation as this whole thing came to light. No way to prove any connection, just noting that it is suspicious. >6)

Re: Brin: We're Pleased with the Cooperation [the House of Saud Has]Provided

2004-03-28 Thread Davd Brin
> Criticism of the Sauds would have hampered the war > in Iraq. gah! > In addition, it may have hampered cooperation from > the Saudis in other areas. What cooperation? This is so fatuous I want no furthe part of the conversation. db > > >Wasn't this something we wanted to > >have publi

Re: First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic/Controversy

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040328/D81J8OKO0.html A child died in a collapsed house and seven fishermen were missing and feared dead early Sunday as a large spiraling storm lashed the coast of southern Brazil, Civil Defense officials said. Meanwhile, Brazilian and U.S. meteorologists

Re: Brin: We're Pleased with the Cooperation [the House of Saud Has]Provided

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:22 AM 3/27/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: >Was there any substantive reason in January 2002 not to say that Treasury >Undersecretary John Taylor and other senior administration officials were >angry and deeply upset at the failure of Saudi Arabia to assist in >shutting down terrorist financing?

Re: The Marriage Amendment is Revised

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:50 PM 3/27/2004 -0500 Tom Beck wrote: >> Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man >> and a woman. Neither this Constitution, nor the constitution of any >> state, shall be construed to require that marriage or the legal >> incidents >> thereof be conferred upon

Re: Brin: We're Pleased with the Cooperation [the House of SaudHas] Provided

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:36 PM 3/26/2004 -0800 Davd Brin wrote: > >Only one question determines pocy in this admin. > >"Will this policy benefit 20,000 frat brothers >(including 1,000 Saudi sheiks)?" Which obviously explains the push behind the "Violence Against Unborn Victims" bill this Administration pushed throug

Re: First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:22 PM 3/27/2004 -0800 Brad DeLong wrote: >Now why has a hurricane formed in teh South Atlantic all of a sudden? Because Bush cut taxes for the rich? JDG ;-) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: "The Passion of the Christ" a hit in Beirut, Damascus

2004-03-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:00 PM 3/27/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: >Wonder if he's seen Gandhi. If only. If a Palestinian Muslim leader had followed in Gandhi's or MLK's footsteps this thing would have been solved years ago. JDG ___ John D. Giorgis -

The Vatican sticks its nose in our elections

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.time.com/time/election2004/article/0,18471,605436,00.html The last time a major political party put forward a Roman Catholic candidate for President, he had to confront bigotry and suspicion that he would be taking orders from Rome. Forty-four years later, the Democrats are poised to n

Re: First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 3:28 PM Subject: Re: First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > Panic In Brazil Maru > > > Not here :-) >

Re: First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic

2004-03-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Brad DeLong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:22 PM Subject: Re: First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic > Now why has a hurricane formed in teh South Atlantic all of a sudden? > > Brad

Re: [ADMIN] Call for administrative action

2004-03-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Call for administrative action Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:00:16 -0800 (PST) I wrote: > ...Another was that 'absolute certainty' about most

Constitution on the Bonfire: What Fourth Amendment

2004-03-28 Thread The Fool
<> 5th Circuit gives police new power in searchesWarrant unneeded in some instances Associated Press NEW ORLEANS -- A federal appeals court has opened the door for police in Texas and two other states to search residences and buildings for

Re: Imprint of Dinosaur Posterior

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Gary wrote: The Headline should have read: Dinosaur Ass Prints Found - Gary Or: Dinosaur moons scientists... -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Belief (was: (no subject))

2004-03-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Belief (was: (no subject)) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:35:42 -0800 (PST) > Do you really believe that, or are you just being > witty? Yes, I actually do

RE: Winning the War on Terror

2004-03-28 Thread ritu
Mike Lee wrote: > The truth is that sufficient violence ends violence. That is true enough. But that only works when you can seal the outlines of the geographical area and flood the same with your troops. India proved that in Punjab. However, if the borders/outlines can't be sealed and if 'fre

Re: [ADMIN] Call for administrative action

2004-03-28 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Call for administrative action Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:18:09 -0800 (PST) --- Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not to mention

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-28 Thread William T Goodall
"The first laws giving gay people the right to 'marry' are to be unveiled this week in one of the most significant changes to Britain's social make-up since the passing of equal opportunities legislation in the 1960s. At

Re: "The Passion of the Christ" a hit in Beirut, Damascus

2004-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Robert wrote: Elsewhere in the Arab world, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat saw the film at his headquarters in Ramallah on the West Bank and pronounced it "moving." Wonder if he's seen Gandhi. -- Doug -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listi

Re: First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic

2004-03-28 Thread Brad DeLong
Now why has a hurricane formed in teh South Atlantic all of a sudden? Brad DeLong http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/393858|top|03-27-2004::00:25|reuters.html The first hurricane ever reported in the south Atlantic swirled off the coast of Brazil on Friday, and forecasters said it could make l

Re: First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic

2004-03-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > Panic In Brazil Maru > Not here :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth

2004-03-28 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Mike Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:16 AM Subject: RE: Bush's brand new enemy is the truth > Clark seems to be imploding. I wouldn't start your happy dance just yet. I don't think thi