Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 12/22/05, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And cutting unnecessary costs. Wal-Mart has driven up _productivity_. Again, by one measure. Who is measuring the productivity of the families and communities that are impacted by Wal-Ma

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

On Dec 22, 2005, at 3:50 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Small businesses offer less in the way of health insurance than big businesses. And Wal-Mart offers even less than most small businesses. Are you sure you're helping your case? Dave ___ http://www.mccm

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

On Dec 21, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Dec 20, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ineffiencies *are* the economy. Perfect efficiencies

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

On Dec 21, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Dave Land wrote: ... Forgot the one about underpricing competition until it goes out of business so that it is free to claim the 'lowest prices' in town, because nobody else is in town. They even installed gas pumps at some of their stores so that none

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

On Dec 21, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 12/21/05, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wal-Mart's latest (fiscal year ending 1-05) profit margin was 3.6%. They make a good deal of profit, 10 billion, but on slim margins. This is in contrast with Microsoft, which has a profit marg

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

On Dec 20, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ineffiencies *are* the economy. Perfect efficiencies would lead to 0% employment and complete economic collapse. Ah, so that explains why the economy of the Soviet Union outperformed the US for so long

Re: A visit from St. Dick

On Dec 19, 2005, at 2:15 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 12/19/05, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:13 AM, The Fool wrote: <> 'Twas the month before Christmas And as I lit candles, Conservatives stirred -- They were onto a scandal. "They want t

Re: Hiring Tech Support (Politically Incorrect, With ApologiesBeforehand to Ritu)

On Dec 19, 2005, at 3:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. A Canadian BlackBerry wireless handheld, no less. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: A visit from St. Dick

On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:13 AM, The Fool wrote: <> 'Twas the month before Christmas And as I lit candles, Conservatives stirred -- They were onto a scandal. "They want to kill Christmas!" I mentioned this at a Christmas party yesterday, and one of the guests shot back "St. Dick: he's that guy w

Re: Communing with Satan in Madison Wisconsin

On Dec 18, 2005, at 7:53 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: The Fool wrote: <> O'REILLY: -- in the South, Richmond Times[-Dispatch], for example. BAIN: Right. O'REILLY: Now, this is a conservative city, Richmond. I mean, this is not Madison, Wisconsin, wher

Re: Help me identify 80's cop show...

On Dec 18, 2005, at 12:00 PM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: She's not going to name him "Hoss" or "Skeeter", but he might have his daddy's name, or he might have the name of one

Re: Help me identify 80's cop show...

On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: She's not going to name him "Hoss" or "Skeeter", but he might have his daddy's name, or he might have the name of one or more of his first cousins, and nicknames like "Hoss" or "Skeeter" will identify him more precisely than "Sterling" if t

Re: Laws that should have been...

On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:18:28 -0500, Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2. Any toy sold in the US that makes noise of any kind, MUST have a volume or on/off switch. Heh. My mom always bought my kids the most anoying toys. Things with

Re: Cocoa additives

On Dec 17, 2005, at 10:42 AM, Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: 2005/12/12, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I like having something minty in my cocoa. :) And it's just the time for it. One of my favourite seasonal treats is hot chocolate with a candy cane suspended from the rim of the cup.

Re: "King Kong Racism"

On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:31 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:21 AM Friday 12/16/2005, Dave Land wrote: I can't believe we forgot: You could if you read my message . . . All depends on whether you are in "we". Dave ___ http://w

Re: "King Kong Racism"

On Dec 15, 2005, at 11:07 PM, The Fool wrote: From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Dec 15, 2005, at 5:55 AM, The Fool wrote: Furthering the tradition of being the first to respond to their own posts I will include some further data points: Results 1 - 3 of about 5 for "king

Re: "King Kong Racism"

acism. (0.12 seconds) Results 1 - 4 of 4 for qing qong racism. (0.54 seconds) Dave Land (Hell, even jing jong racism got almost 600 hits) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Another New Front in the War-on-Mithrasmas Opens up on Fox News

It just keeps getting better. Fux has a *HOLIDAY* gift guide: http://www.foxnews.com/foxlife/holiday/ Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Cocoa additives

On Dec 12, 2005, at 10:56 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:54 AM Tuesday 12/13/2005, Dave Land wrote: On Dec 9, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: My wife says that nutmeg goes with everything. But I personally have always enjoyed mixing sweet with hot and spicy. Think mango and

Re: Cocoa additives

On Dec 9, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: My wife says that nutmeg goes with everything. But I personally have always enjoyed mixing sweet with hot and spicy. Think mango and chipotle peppers together, for an example, or papaya and cayenne. Funny how things go in circles... 10 yea

Re: Cocoa additives

On Dec 12, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: But mango-chipotle salsa sounds delicious! I'd like to cast a vote for mango salsa. It is amazing. Even the store-bought stuff from Trader Joe's is quite nice. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mai

Re: Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

On Dec 11, 2005, at 8:54 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: “I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.” ... “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!” Perhaps our Christian

Re: 'The invasion of Iraq was a bandit act, an act of blatant state terrorism, '

On Dec 9, 2005, at 5:25 PM, Maru Dubshinki wrote: On 12/9/05, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Last night, I invested 45 minutes in watching Mr. Pinter's speech. It was stunning. Not so much the production (although the three- camera setup with a deep-blue backdrop and a large

Re: 'The invasion of Iraq was a bandit act, an act of blatant state terrorism, '

Folks, Last night, I invested 45 minutes in watching Mr. Pinter's speech. It was stunning. Not so much the production (although the three- camera setup with a deep-blue backdrop and a large photograph of a younger Pinter was used well enough) but the man, his ideas and his delivery. His o

Open Letter to The Fool: Thanks for a couple of recent posts

Fool, I want to thank you publically for a couple of your recent posts -- "Social Arthritis" and a reply to the Valtrex thread in which you referred to Talk2Action. You and I have tussled from time to time on this list, so I think it's only fair that I give you a tip of the hat when it's

Re: An armed society ...

On Dec 5, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: (With tongue firmly in cheek, one hopes) Lest we forget that swords can cut with two edges... The greatest effect firearms have had upon history is to remove the advantage the large and powerful have always had over th

Re: RepubliKlan Amerika:Valtrex

On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:47 PM, William T Goodall wrote: The idea that God punishes us in accordance with our sins (or calls us to do the same to others) is about as Biblical as "Godl helps those who help themselves," which is to say it is not. There are a great many Christians in the USA who

RE: An armed society ...

Ritu wrote: You don't have to be fan of SF to appreciate what he was trying to say. According to my observations, the more lethal the members of a society are, the more emphasis the social norms lay on politeness. As John explained to me in Korea, when a stare is taken as an invitation for ver

Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: Driving to work, at 5:00 am that morning was a REAL eye-opener. I was astounded at the number of people at the Super Wal-Mart. I made the mistake of stopping there to pick up donuts on the way to work OK, I'm home sick from work today, and in m

Re: Brin: (pause) Californians fight back against Diebold!

Fool, David, Intriguing that this comes up just as four opposition parties pull out of elections in Venezuela, citing fears that electronic voting machines could be used to tip the election in favor of Hugo Chavez and that voters' identities could be matched back to their votes. Dave ___

Dick Cheney: War Criminal?

Folks, Today's The Guardian (UK) features an article that expands on an astonishing excerpt from a BBC Today interview with Lawrence Wilkerson, who was Colin Powell's Chief of Staff when Powell served as Secretary of State. I first heard Wilkerson's amazing moment of candor on NPR yesterd

Re: Brin: AIs & Nanos... dangerous children?

On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The only problem with that suggestion is that it's people who feel like you do who believe in gun control, while it's the conservatives and the Christians who have all the firearms . . . :P Not all Christians are fundamentalists. They're

Re: An armed society ...

On Nov 30, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Robert J. Chassell wrote: "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." -- Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond the Horizon_, 1942 I am not much of a sci-fi fan, and I suspect that there may be one

Re: Brin: AIs & Nanos... dangerous children?

On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:32 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent

Re: Papers Please!

On Nov 28, 2005, at 8:35 PM, The Fool wrote: <> Miami police announced Monday they will stage random shows of force at hotels, banks and other public places to keep terrorists guessing and remind people to be vigilant. He means "afraid"

Re: Brin: AIs & Nanos... dangerous children?

On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent Republicans. I even know a few. FWIW, my state has McCain, and my stepfather is without question one of

SCOUTED: The Onion -- FCC: All Programming To Be Broadcast In ADHDTV By 2007

Folks, It's the Onion, so you know it's spot-on. http://www.theonion.com/content/node/42809/print/ The funny thing is that the TV in the article comes a little too close to the new Philips flat TVs with their Ambilight system, which illuminates the wall behind the TV to match the dominant c

Re: Utopias and anti-utopias

On Nov 22, 2005, at 11:17 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Living in a fantasy world - you say that like it's a bad thing. It always seemed strange to me that being "disillusioned" is considered a bad thing -- would you rather remain illusioned? Dave ___ http

Re: "the US's stance compared poorly with that of China"

On Nov 22, 2005, at 7:43 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 11/19/05, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dave Land wrote: "A specialist on torture" -- he/she should not be what we expect when we hear this expression. Torquemada was a specialist on torture. I think

Re: New religion

On Nov 21, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: William T Goodall wrote: "They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you, my only son." Crap They are turning Superman into Jesus! But it's Hollywood, so they can't q

Re: Brin: AIs & Nanos... dangerous children?

On Nov 21, 2005, at 6:07 AM, The Fool wrote: As for Nonos, it seems like a lot of the nano tech you describe would likely need an immune system to fight off regular pathogens, engineereed malicious pathogens and nanotech, and badly designed / escaped / evolving nanotech. Enter nanospam: ads

Re: AIs & Nanos... dangerous children?

On Nov 21, 2005, at 7:14 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:07 AM Monday 11/21/2005, The Fool wrote: You can lead a conservative to logic, but you can't make them think! At least they have a brain, which is a part of the central nervous system liberals don't need, as the spinal cord handle

Re: They've cloned the president

On Nov 20, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: Oh, and John Murtha. Hero. Oorah. The fiery, emotional debate climaxed when Ohio Congresswoman Jean Schmidt, who is the lowest in seniority, recounted a message a Marine colonel wanted to send to Murtha. She said he told her that "cowards

Re: They've cloned the president

On Nov 20, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: "People should feel comfortable about expressing their opinions about Iraq," the president said. "I heard somebody say, well, maybe so-and-so is not patriotic because they disagree with my position. I totally reject that thought. This is not

Re: "the US's stance compared poorly with that of China"

On Nov 19, 2005, at 3:45 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dave Land wrote: "A specialist on torture" -- he/she should not be what we expect when we hear this expression. Torquemada was a specialist on torture. I think Torquemada was a specialist *in* torture. Ah, interesting. &qu

Re: Curveball

On Nov 20, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Robert wrote: We should all be ashamed in this country. We should be ashamed that we are so childish and easily manipulated that CURVEBALL's supposed story and that of all the other shoddy sources and rumor mongers were so easily "sold" to us

Re: Time Waster 2

On Nov 19, 2005, at 9:48 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/games/matter/ Sort of an intelligence test. Spatial intelligence. Not the end-all, be-all for intelligence. Any more than linguistic, logical-mathematical, bodily-kinesthet

Re: Scouted: The Sony Backdoor

On Nov 19, 2005, at 3:33 PM, Robert J. Chassell wrote: The idea that Aunt Fanny should have to worry that her copy of "G3 - Live in Tokyo" ... Actually, my late aunts were much more interested in Frank Sinatra, a CD of whom, I just saw, is one of those that Sony is recalling. It was i

Re: "the US's stance compared poorly with that of China"

On Nov 18, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: "If the Americans say they're running a clean operation why do they not allow the UN specialist on torture to visit?" "A specialist on torture" -- he/she should not be what we expect when we hear this expression. Torquemada was a specialis

Re: Scouted: The Sony Backdoor

On Nov 16, 2005, at 2:48 PM, Russell Chapman wrote: Kevin Street wrote: Could we be witnessing the Hindenburg-style crash n' burn of the DRM meme in real time? It's hard to believe any consumers would just placidly accept the installation of DRM software on their machines after this. I'd

SCOUTED: The Dalai Lama, Science, Stanford and Berkeley

Folks, http://eclecticity.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.1e6f62b3!discloc=. 3c66bcc4 http://makeashorterlink.com/?X5B825A2C http://tinyurl.com/7wtlw http://url123.com/m9zur Dan Shafer has a brief piece on his blog about a visit by the Dalai Lama to the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience

Sony-BMG Rootkit CD List

Neighbors, For those of you trying to avoid Sony's attempt at hacking your computer, here's a blog that lists the 45-or-so CDs with the rootkit: http://www.idiotabroad.com/2005/11/cds-affected-by-the-sony-bmg-spyware/ http://makeashorterlink.com/?S18825A2C http://tinyurl.com/76mj3 Dave

Re: Work photos

On Nov 13, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: On 11/10/05 10:55 PM, "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I ought to take some pics of the Remote Box Terminations in some of the Fire Alarm Boxes. The Fire Alarm company did the terminations themselves thinking that we w

Re: Legalese Rootkit

On Nov 13, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Alberto wrote: I never bought a pirate CD. But if I ever want to buy a CD with some nasty copy protection, I will consider changing this paradygm. I'm for a boycott of all things Sony, and for letting the artists whose music I may buy kno

SCOUTED: Natural Nuclear Fission Reactor

From www.discover.com: "It took humans until the 20th century to build a nuclear reactor. Mother Nature, on the other hand, built one that turned itself off and on, stored its waste, never threatened a meltdown —- and did it 2 billion years ago." http://www.discover.com/web-exclu

Re: Math Idol

On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: If the writers of equations had an Academy Awards or a Pullitzer Prize, the finalists might be Maxwell, Euler, Newton, Einstein, and whoever can take credit for 1+1=2. If I had to chose a _mathematical_ equation, witho

SCOUTED: MIT: On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets: An Empirical Study

Need I say more? Oh, well, at least this: http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/ Site is slightly SlashDotted, but not from Slashdot, but from Digg (www.digg.com). From the site: Among a fringe community of paranoids, aluminum helmets serve as the protective measure of choi

Re: Work photos

On Nov 10, 2005, at 7:01 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ These are pictures of a project I have been working on, off and on, over the last few months. The "Terminations in the Pavilion" are *almost* neat enough. I wish I could find pictures of th

Re: Finally some sanity in Pennsylvania

On Nov 10, 2005, at 1:56 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Dave Land wrote: Thanks for posting this... I was just about to post a link to Reuters' coverage of the same thing. There is yet hope. Don't get too optimistic yet. After all, do you know what's between Pittsburgh and Philade

Re: A Time Waster

On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.iol.ie/~dluby/escape.htm I made it to 20.5 seconds. 26.992 seconds. It's kind of fun. Must be a Windows thing: I averaged about .3 seconds in a dozen or so tries before I gave up. The good news is that it d

Re: Finally some sanity in Pennsylvania

On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:04 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: 'Intelligent design' backers lose in Pennsylvania By Jill Lawrence, USA TODAY The court verdict in a landmark lawsuit on "intelligent design" is weeks away, but voters in Dover, Pa., delivered their judgment this week by sweeping out eight of nine

Re: Keyboard Fetish

On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Matt Grimaldi wrote: Dave Land wrote: Keeping a dead thread alive... Virtual Laser Keyboard http://www.palmzone.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=211 There's no actual keyboard, so there's nothing to get messed up in the first place

Re: Keyboard Fetish

Keeping a dead thread alive... Virtual Laser Keyboard http://www.palmzone.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=211 There's no actual keyboard, so there's nothing to get messed up in the first place. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/l

Re: Keyboard fetish.

On Nov 6, 2005, at 9:28 AM, Matt Grimaldi wrote: There is quite a difference between a $10 and a $50 keyboard, btw. I guess I'm picky about how the key *feels* while being pressed, and the cheaper keyboards just don't do it right. Niether do the rollable keyboards, in their own way. The first

Re: Scouted: Turner Classic Movies to air 9 Anime Films

On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:19 AM, The Fool wrote: From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We also rented Castle, but Ryan lost interest about 3/4 through. Howls moving Castle? or That other Castle movie? Castle in the Sky, one of the ones that TCM will be showing.

Re: Scouted: Turner Classic Movies to air 9 Anime Films

On Nov 1, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Jim Sharkey wrote: The Fool wrote: Every Thursday in January Turner Classic Movies will air 2 Ghibli movies (3 on January 19th) starting at 8pm. I've seen four of the six Miyzaki movies listed (Spirited Away, Mononoke, Castle in the Sky and Totoro, and I've heard

Re: Sony BGM music CD's install Windows Rootkit DRM

On Oct 31, 2005, at 2:42 PM, The Fool wrote: <> While the blogger in question definitely violated the EULA for that CD (by reverse-engineering and decompiling the code in whole or in part or whatever), he s

Re: UK Catholic Bishops: Biblical Truth v. Biblical Literalism

On Oct 30, 2005, at 7:28 PM, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave Land wrote: Dave "'Virgin' birth possibly just a mistranslation" Land My understanding is that the Greek word used means "

Re: UK Catholic Bishops: Biblical Truth v. Biblical Literalism

On Oct 29, 2005, at 7:22 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Dave Land wrote: Dave "'Virgin' birth possibly just a mistranslation" Land My understanding is that the Greek word used means "young woman". That's pretty much the argument that John Shelby Spong ma

UK Catholic Bishops: Biblical Truth v. Biblical Literalism

Friends, From the BBC World Service "Reporting Religion" program today comes news of a document entitled "The Gift of Scripture" from the Bishops of England, Scotland and Wales that calls upon UK Catholics to cease taking various parts of the Bible literally: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worl

Re: One-man Star Wars show

On Oct 28, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: I saw this guy on the Today Show -- hilarious! Too bad I won't be in New York... http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9087527/ There's a video clip on-site as well. For people using Windows, there is... Those of us using Macs and Firefox get: MS

Re: Hydroponics question...

Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My daughter is doing a hydroponics & aeroponics experiment for a Science Fair project. She is going to compare the growth rate and appearance of plants grown in a hydroponics tank, a aeroponics tank and normal, everyday potting soil. I bet she'd have g

Scouted: Davis-Bacon to be Restored

Friends, Pro-labor Republicans, led by Ohio Rep. Steven LaTourette, and in concert with Democrats, seem to have convinced the President that his suspension of prevailing wage laws in the Gulf coast was not such a good idea, leading to a promise to reinstate the law as early as November 8:

Preparedness Leads to Disaster

Folks, Unusually popular blogger and Silicon Valley notable Jeremy Zawodny commented on an unintentionally-funny (or unintentionally-telling) graphic on the FEMA web site. I found the page that contains it, and it sure seems to say, as Jeremy notes, that preparedness leads to disaster.

Re: Fear the Past: Your Printer Has Been Spying On You For Like, 2 Years.

On Oct 25, 2005, at 1:06 AM, The Fool wrote: From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If I said that I thought that color laser printers incorporate secret codes in every page they print that lets government agencies identify Still, I hadn't heard about it, Dude this news is, like, s

Scouted: Framing Katrina

Folks, Progressive cognitive psychologist linguist George Lakoff and John Halpin of the Center for American Progress write on the Rockridge Institute web site about the need for progressives to frame the complex of failures that amplified the Katrina disaster, rather than sitting back and

Fear the Present: Is Your Printer Spying On You?

Folks, If I said that I thought that color laser printers incorporate secret codes in every page they print that lets government agencies identify the printer - and potentially, the person who used it, you'd probably check my hat for tin foil. But it's not me, it's the EFF who says it: ht

Re: Scouted: Like The Onion

On Oct 24, 2005, at 7:29 AM, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.holyobserver.com/ http://objectiveministries.org/ http://larknews.com/ Thanks for those links, William. I had to read quite a bit of material on the Objective Ministries site to believe that it was a parody -- they have the la

Re: Brin: Depressing

On Oct 23, 2005, at 10:07 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Oct 23, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Dave Land wrote: Not to mention that certain other SciFi writers I could name have been less than thrilled with the treatment that their works have had at the hands of Hollywood... Hem, hem; I'm sure y

Re: Brin: Depressing

On Oct 23, 2005, at 9:41 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Oct 18, 2005, at 12:46 PM, David Brin wrote: Come on, guys, face the evidence. Science fiction (starting with my own stories "Reality Check" and "Stones of Significance") has been toying for some time with the notion that we are living i

Re: The World's Fastest Electric Sedan

On Oct 21, 2005, at 3:30 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.spacedaily.com/news/car-tech-05u.html Japanese researchers on Thursday unveiled the world's fastest electric sedan - an eight-wheeled prototype with a top speed of 370 kilometres (almost 230 miles) per hour. Have you actually

Re: D'oh! - Is nothing sacred???

On Oct 20, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: Can they do this kind of censorship? Hey, you can play whatever music, using whatever part of the song you want. Radio shows use "bumper music" that's usually an instrumental passage of something that has words.

Re: D'oh! - Is nothing sacred???

On Oct 18, 2005, at 8:38 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Dear God, what is the world coming to? The Simpson's' Exported to Middle East -- Minus Bacon, Beer But with a show that is so distinctly American, Arab media experts say, it's not enough to just translate the language. "Translating the show

Re: Brin website - Browsers, versions & countries...

On Oct 18, 2005, at 9:06 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Gary Nunn wrote: If anyone visits the mirror site , especially via the DavidBrin.net redirect, please post it here or email me directly and let me know what make and version of browser you are using. Works in Firefox 1.0.4 and Opera 7.2 f

Re: Cow Beats The Crap Out Of Dogs

On Oct 9, 2005, at 11:23 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.livejournal.com/users/drugoi/1468288.html?thread=29096832 No captions required. Actually, the captions (in Russian) /are/ worth reading. This took place in Alabama after Katrina. The dogs were apparently shot by National Guar

Re: Brin: Gore: American Democracy Is In Grave Danger

Folks, This speech touches on many of the things Dr. Brin has written about: <> Text of Gore Speech at Media Conference Reading this made me realize all over again how much we lost in the stolen election of 2000, or the lost opportun

Re: Why transparency is important

On Oct 8, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Dave Land wrote: Sounds innocuous enough. After all, what self-respecting progressive wouldn't want to join with consumers, environmentalists, community leaders and so forth... One word: astroturf. Just wanted to get that out there before someone tells me

Why transparency is important

Howdy, We're about to have a special election here in California, and among the ballot measures submitted for our approval is one that proposes to re-regulate electric service providers. You may recall some trouble we had out here on the left coast regarding electric service, caused, in p

Re: Miracles debunked

On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:35 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Oct 6, 2005, at 1:55 PM, Dave Land wrote: This is great stuff... Claims of crying statues and the image of the Virgin Mary in a tortilla (and the like) do a great deal of harm to serious faith. Soft "news" reports run regu

Re: Brin: Welcome to the Hackocracy

On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?pt=aRdkNvZ9I0U9Fs%2BCKniV3y%3D%3D brilliant stuff. You can see why this lot hated the Clinton era so much: after all those years in high school of giving the kind of people who ended up being Clintonians wedgi

Re: .......some trolls will do anything for a laugh!

On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:57 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: That said I thoroughly approve of outing. Anyone who behaves in a bigoted way deserves to be exposed to the very ridicule and scorn he heaps upon others. An ex of mine never agreed with me on that, even though he was pretty active in the c

Re: Stupid Uses of Religion are Evil and Should be Eradicated!

On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:41 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Oct 6, 2005, at 7:05 PM, Dave Land wrote: Folks, Today, the BBC announced: "President George W. Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC s

Stupid Uses of Religion are Evil and Should be Eradicated!

Folks, Today, the BBC announced: "President George W. Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals." http://www.bbc.co.uk/print/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/ 2005/10_october/06/bush.sht

Re: Miracles debunked

On Oct 6, 2005, at 5:47 AM, William T Goodall wrote: http://tinyurl.com/c2unb The Italian Committee for the Investigation of the Paranormal is causing uproar by debunking a host of the nation's favourite religious "miracles", writes Barbara McMahon This is great stuff... Claims of crying stat

Re: Brin: Fight the Future: Fascism: Indiana to Criminalize 'Unauthorized' Reproduction

On Oct 5, 2005, at 1:02 PM, The Fool wrote: From: David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- The Fool wrote: This is what Happens when you don't vote for democrats: Plus Many more link to sources here: <> Thanks, I will blog this at http://davi

Re: The dark side of faith

On Oct 3, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: The dark side of faith Perhaps members of dysfunctional societies find

Re: The dark side of faith

On Oct 3, 2005, at 5:03 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Oct 2005, at 10:31 pm, Dave Land wrote: On Oct 3, 2005, at 1:22 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Oct 2005, at 6:22 pm, Maru Dubshinki wrote: On 10/3/05, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The LA Times has picked

Re: Help!: fleas, dogs & spiders

On Oct 3, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Most Recluse bite I've seen occured when people rolled over the spider in their sleep or crawled over one when working under their house. The spider bites when trapped. Also, apparently, true of Black Widows -- they'd rather escape than bit

Re: The dark side of faith

On Oct 3, 2005, at 1:22 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Oct 2005, at 6:22 pm, Maru Dubshinki wrote: On 10/3/05, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The LA Times has picked up on the story... http://tinyurl.com/7fxny "The dark side of faith By ROSA BROOKS IT'S OFFICIAL: Too much

Re: Help!: fleas, dogs & spiders

On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:15 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Dave Land wrote: I was at a dinner party Friday night where one of the guests (a real girly-girl) was bragging on the fact that she had faced her fear and killed an extremely large spider in her living room. I told her that killing something

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