Re: Always read your EULA . . .

2005-01-03 Thread Maru Dubshinki
Oops. You don't happen to know if they installed some spyware along with it to enforce the Eula, do you? ~Maru Off to wipe his computer of all incriminati- err, for maintenance purposes. On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:18:17 -0600, Ronn!Blankenship Were you aware that it is a violation of the license

Re: Military Battlefield Management

2005-01-03 Thread Maru Dubshinki
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,65403,00.html http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,66085,00.html Those seem pretty close to what you describe (the first especially). ~Maru On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:37:34 -0800 (PST), Matt Grimaldi It occurred to me today during a conversation

Re: Social Security

2005-01-05 Thread Maru Dubshinki
If he was reminscent of Eliza, wouldn't he have said something along the lines of: And how do those pieces of paper make you feel, 'Erik Reuter'? ~Maru I'm no farmer guess that's why I see no straw here On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:39:24 -0500, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unable to

Re: Idiocy of universal retirement

2005-01-10 Thread Maru Dubshinki
Last I heard, SS was not a pension; so apparently they have no problem living off charity. ~Maru On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:54:35 +0100, God [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maru spoketh: whether it is in money or other financial instruments. I hear that farmers are paid really large sums to

Re: Idiocy of universal retirement

2005-01-11 Thread Maru Dubshinki
What, precisely, is the true difference between giving retirees crops/foodstuffs and money (aside from the sheer versatility of money of course.)? They are both charity as far as I can see. ~Maru On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:18:05 +0100, God [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maru Dubshinki contributed

Re: Social Security

2005-01-14 Thread maru dubshinki
Why the gloomy outlook? Not optimistic about security? ~Maru Erik Reuter wrote: In the long term, that will make a big difference, but compound interest takes decades to make a big difference. Also, my prediction is that over the next 10 years, equities will return less than their long term 4%.

Re: Social Security

2005-01-14 Thread maru dubshinki
Curious: I would have thought that dividend would have been higher; taxes were lowered significantly on them, and the economy has registered mediocre gains, in which companies should be able to take profits. But then I just heard that the producer price index has fallen noticeably. So perhaps

Re: Social Security

2005-01-15 Thread maru dubshinki
I don't need to tell you that if the raw materials price is down, then the extractive industries are not making as much profit. But since the 'producer' segement is larger, I suppose that there might be a net rise in profits. ~Maru Erik Reuter wrote: By the way, PPI for finished goods is an

Re: Social Security

2005-01-15 Thread maru dubshinki
Hmm... Reasonable yes. But, isn't that assuming that the survivorship bias continues to favor the US? For a 75 year, or infinite horizon projection, the chances that it won't can't be neglected. ~Maru Erik Reuter wrote: ... For Ireland, Switzerland, Canada, UK, US, Australia, S. Africa, and

Re: Social Security

2005-01-16 Thread maru dubshinki
wrote: * maru dubshinki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hmm... Reasonable yes. But, isn't that assuming that the survivorship bias continues to favor the US? For a 75 year, or infinite horizon projection, the chances that it won't can't be neglected. Your argument is that since the US could cease

Re: Social Security

2005-01-16 Thread maru dubshinki
Possibly. Was that bias taken into account? If then, I will shut the heck up about this; if not, I'd suggest that the proper statistical treatment would be to widen the margin of error. I think ~Maru IANAS Erik Reuter wrote: * maru dubshinki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was talking about

Re: Social Security

2005-01-16 Thread maru dubshinki
Erik Reuter wrote: That's absurd. Doubly so. First, global growth is almost certainly NOT overestimated by 1%. The fact that comparing the growth rates of various countries over the last 200 or so years, INCLUDING THOSE DEVASTATED BY WAR, has almost all of the free-market economies coming in at

Re: Is environmentalism dead?

2005-01-17 Thread maru dubshinki
In the last paragraph, you meant 'did not' right? But don't give up hope. The Kyoto protocol still passed. People are still aware of enviromental problems (despite crappy propaganda like Crichton's State of Fear'.), and there is potential in the religious right: Didn't Genesis say we were

Re: Is environmentalism dead?

2005-01-17 Thread maru dubshinki
I was thinking of Gen 2:15: 'The Lord God then took the man and settled him in the garden of Eden, to cultivate and care for it.' But then again, my translation is 'The New American Bible', and I'm not sure of its trustworthiness. ~Maru Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jan 17, 2005, at 1:50 PM, maru

Re: 'Collapse': How the World Ends L3

2005-01-31 Thread Maru Dubshinki
You have a point about oversimplification: In Guns..., my primary grief was a lack of attention paid to how cultural and gov.'t factors contributed and developed the potential geography bestowed. (Anyone who has looked into, say, Chinese history will notice that a lot of the most original stuff

Re: Bill Moyers: There is no tomorrow

2005-02-01 Thread Maru Dubshinki
I think that's a bit disingenous- saying 'God created evolution' is on par with 'God created 2+2' or 'God created the Law of the excluded middle'. Evolution naturally falls out of things, like 1=1. ~Maru Microsoft delenda est. On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:08:13 -0800, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bill Moyers: There is no tomorrow

2005-02-01 Thread Maru Dubshinki
that adjective only apply to ideas presented as facts? Nick Maru Dubshinki wrote: I think that's a bit disingenous- saying 'God created evolution' is on par with 'God created 2+2' or 'God created the Law of the exclutded middle'. Evolution naturally falls out of things, like 1=1

Re: Bill Moyers: There is no tomorrow

2005-02-03 Thread Maru Dubshinki
So what is non-religious? As far as I can tell, there are three categories: Believers who are confident enough to invest the time and money to practise it; Believers who are not so sure, and who don't practise it (think 'agnostic'); People who don't believe, and so are atheists, even if they don't

Re: Bill Moyers: There is no tomorrow

2005-02-03 Thread Maru Dubshinki
They also have the best software. ~Open-source-using-commie Maru Well, according to Bill Gates anyway On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:49:03 -0700, Kevin Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... All the cool people are commies now! You've got the carnivals and all the best music. *whine* Can I be a communist

Re: Bill Moyers: There is no tomorrow

2005-02-05 Thread Maru Dubshinki
I always figured it was because of a 'race to the outside'- that is, extremism wins more of your potential constituency than another guy's more centrist approach. F'er example, a fellow like Bush will pick up all the extremists and mid-right people in an election, but while the centrist

Re: Imax 'shuns films on evolution'

2005-03-21 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:01:27 -0600, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He couldn't be arrested for countering Aristotle, so they used scripture. But, if the earth orbiting the sun were really a theological problem, then why in the world would Pope Gregory have consulted a number of Copernican

Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)

2005-04-08 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On Apr 8, 2005 10:16 AM, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raymond Brown, in the Birth of The Messiah argues that this is a reasonable scenario. He discusses the theological reasons for including virgin birth in the infancy narratives...and thinks that they are not very convincing.

Further Transparent Society-ness

2005-04-12 Thread Maru Dubshinki
From the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/nyregion/12video.html?incamp=article_popular_4 (Be prepared to render up your soul), or http://tinyurl.com/64xlx: begin article Videos Challenge Accounts of Convention Unrest ennis Kyne put up such a fight at a political protest last

Re: Opportunity costs of war

2005-04-13 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/14/05, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:51 PM 4/13/2005 -0700, Nick wrote: It dawned on me the other day that as we've talked about the costs of war lately, one cost that never was mentioned was all the cuts that are being made in education, health care and so forth as a result of the

Re: Desktop Search Question

2005-04-16 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/15/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several people that I work with would like to begin sharing resources such as presentations, website resource info etc. We are geographically dispersed and tossed around the idea of adding a library to our intranet, but the

'Hello', said the Ostrich, to the Administration

2005-04-16 Thread Maru Dubshinki
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002243262_terror16.html http://tinyurl.com/box2r U.S. eliminates annual terrorism report By Jonathan S. Landay WASHINGTON The State Department decided to stop publishing an annual report on international terrorism after the government's top

Re: Peaceful change

2005-04-16 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/17/05, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:25:07 -0500, Dan Minette wrote we cannot count on God to intervene because we eschew violence ourselves. Good heavens, Dan, we can *always* count on God to intervene, my faith tells me. Without God's constant, total

Re: 'Hello', said the Ostrich, to the Administration

2005-04-16 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/17/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any chance of another take, this time with some line breaks here and there to supply readability? -- Ronn! :) /scratches head. Formatted just fine in Gmail... Oh well. Give it another shot. Or y'all could follow the links. start article

Re: 'Hello', said the Ostrich, to the Administration

2005-04-16 Thread Maru Dubshinki
No problem. If I find an article good enough to pass along, its good enough to be formatted and sent twice. Now, the strange thing is, while it was formatted right when I sent, and when I viewed it again in gmail, when I looked at your reply, then it was block text! I figure your client is

Re: Peaceful change

2005-04-17 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/17/05, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:16:11 +, Maru Dubshinki wrote That is sarcasm, correct? Because seriously proposing that the universe has no independent existence from a supreme deity is a stance I believe is called pan-theism, and I gather from

Re: Brin: Re: Six devastating issues

2005-04-18 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/18/05, Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/13/05, John DeBudge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: China really is greatly increasing its demand for foreign oil, thus becoming a major factor in global demand, which in turn is starting to outpace production, thus resulting in a price

Re: Abortion Cost-Benefit Analysis

2005-04-18 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/18/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 15, 2005, at 4:07 AM, JDG wrote: -human life begins at conception What about the 50% or so of all pregnancies that miscarry spontaneously, some of them so early in the term that the woman doesn't even realize she's pregnant at

Re: Abortion Cost-Benefit Analysis

2005-04-18 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/18/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 18, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Maru Dubshinki wrote: But for damn sure they are not in Heaven- 'No one can come to the father except through me'? They certainly could never have received the Gospel. Apparently you've not spoken

Re: Get your hands off me, you damn dirty ape!

2005-04-20 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/20/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 20, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=817e=8u=/ap/ swat_monkey I note also that, according to this article, human being are, at best, the _third_ smartest primate. I

Re: Peaceful change

2005-04-20 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/19/05, Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... A related issue: what, if anything, prevents this understanding of a deity from being different than Tipler's suggestion that we are, probabilistically speaking, a simulation running in an antiquarian AI's supercomputer? After

Re: Peaceful change

2005-04-21 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/21/05, Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maru wrote: Wait, wasn't Tipler's argument basically given certain physical constraints, we would surely be re-incarnated at the end of the Universe? ... How would we be re-incarnated? And if you think we will be, how do

Re: Peaceful change

2005-04-22 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/22/05, Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maru Dubshinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (Why would a non-antiquarian superintelligence bother to reincarnate us? In this reading, any superintelligence doing research that involves reincarnating anyone from the past is an antiquarian

Re: Abortion Cost-Benefit Analysis

2005-04-24 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/24/05, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:07 PM 4/24/2005 -0500, Ronn! wrote: -human life begins at conception This is scientifically debateable. Really? This would require the [group of cells] to be something other than human life between the meeting of the sperm and the egg,

Re: Close, but not yet...

2005-04-25 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/25/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This intrigues me because of something in my WIP, _The Seven-Year Mirror_ -- one of the subplots involves using schizophrenics as information couriers. The reason is pretty simple. In the 2K+ -year-distant future there's a sophisticated

Re: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-04-26 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/26/05, Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:23 PM 19/04/05 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Apr 19, 2005, at 6:35 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 19, 2005, at 6:27 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Why? Morality is not the product of an opinion

Re: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head

2005-04-27 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/27/05, Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cdbaby.com/amycd2 The album I have been helping to midwife for the last year. With tinny sounding samples that are supposed to make you have to have to have this album today! I worked my ass off to get this out. You could

Re: Howcum (some) Texans are so happy?

2005-04-27 Thread Maru Dubshinki
I certainly hope I do not get an A or A+ on that list. :) ~Maru Sometimes, failure is the only way to succeed. On 4/27/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From another list: List Of Depressed Cities 1.. Laredo, TX -- A+ 2.. El Paso, TX -- A+ 3.. Jersey City, NJ

Re: Permission Slips

2005-04-29 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/29/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 28, 2005, at 7:43 PM, JDG wrote: The Bush Administration used the child/permission slip analogy to make this *latter* viewpoint, that the US must gain the *permission* of the UN Security Council before activing, appear

Re: Permission Slips

2005-04-29 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/29/05, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Maru Dubshinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Permission Slips Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-04-29 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/29/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Douglas Adams spinning in his grave. HHGttG was everything its detractors have suggested, unfortunately. Entirely meaningless digressions, all the genuinely funny situations replaced by watered-down simpering, and a story that was

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-04-29 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/29/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 29, 2005, at 7:28 PM, Maru Dubshinki wrote: /is not actually surpised. HHGTG didn't have a really straightforward, movie suitable plot. In the shape it took for radio or the book, possibly not; but it managed to make

Re: The Root of All Evil

2005-04-30 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/30/05, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/ Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins explains why God is a delusion, religion is a virus, and America has slipped back into the Dark Ages. ... Currently, Dawkins is the

Re: Threats to the US

2005-05-01 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/1/05, Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every country in the world can now purchase nuclear weapons from rogue elements in the USSR. GOP leaders in Congress defunded for over a year the major program preventing that. Some people in this administration leaked the name of one of the

Re: The Root of All Evil

2005-05-01 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/1/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cowardice evinced by MS is staggering in this case. They, like many in the current national legislature, have vastly overestimated the numbers of radical right-wing loonies out there. A fundamentalist boycott of MS products would dent

Re: List manager ethos (was Re: Permission Slips)

2005-05-02 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/1/05, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:31:38 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote Out of curiosity, why is it that Erik and a few others are able to get away with incessant windbaggery and insulting behavior? Free speech. More seriously... our list managers

Re: A very good NYT article on intelligent design

2005-05-02 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/2/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... _Calculating God_, yeah. As it happens I just finished it this weekend. It's an interesting read but Sawyer leaves a gaping hole in his story (two, actually), which he also did with _Hominids_. In CG Sawyer's aliens suggest that the

Re: US riches, actual and hypothetical

2005-05-02 Thread Maru Dubshinki
Now, I am not an economist but wouldn't it be almost impossible to untangle causation here? Because the economy would run in cycles irregardless of which party is in power, and voters would react accordingly; so a party could get voted out on the basis of a normal cyclical downturn, and voted in

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-05-02 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/29/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:21 PM Friday 4/29/2005, Maru Dubshinki wrote: On 4/29/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the shape it took for radio or the book, possibly not; but it managed to make the transition to television more or less in one

Re: Close, but not yet...

2005-05-02 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/25/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, fair enough -- but how would that really supply you with an answer? If you simulated all senders and receivers, how would that be significantly different from the message content's encryption itself? You'd have a reduced range of

Re: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-05-02 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/26/05, Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:53 PM 26/04/05 -0400, Maru wrote: On 4/26/05, Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. Further, I think I can describe what it takes, namely an expanding economy, to keep a population in a mode where it extends human to

Re: Brin: Guess Who?

2005-05-02 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/2/05, Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 's website is featured on SciFi.com? http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue419/site.html Hint: He reads this list sometimes xponent Namesake Maru rob Hmm... Banks? Baxter? Benford? Bear? Vinge? ~Maru D'oh! /shoulda guessed.

Re: A very good NYT article on intelligent design

2005-05-03 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/3/05, Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/2/05, Maru Dubshinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip ~Maru The wordless teaching, neh? Actually he is GOH at the Houston ApolloCon coming up so I hope to hear a few words. -- Gary Denton The speech which can be spoken

Re: Permission Slips Re: Rhetorical Questions RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3

2005-05-04 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/4/05, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 09:25 PM Tuesday 5/3/2005, Dave Land wrote: On May 3, 2005, at 6:32 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 03:30 PM Tuesday 5/3/2005, Dave Land wrote: On May 3, 2005, at 10:45 AM, Horn, John

Re: Brin: Time Traveller Convention

2005-05-04 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/4/05, Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Brin asked: --- Alberto... explain? Gregory Benford attended[*] the Writer's Convention in Year 4335 (plus or minus 3) in Tellus Tertius, Timeline 2, described in Heinlein's book _The Number of the Beast_. :-) You should

Re: Permission Slips Re: blah, blah, blah . . .

2005-05-05 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/5/05, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Dave Land ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There is a God and there is no God are equally statements of faith. And there are fearsome, invisible, undetectable pink unicorns and there are no fearsome, invisible, undetectable pink unicorns are

Re: Galactic scripts.

2005-05-06 Thread Maru Dubshinki
Hah- you obviously are not favored by our Google overlords; *I* can get the Civilization board game for a mere 41.95$ ! Civilization Board Game Only $41.95. Board game version of Sid Meyer's popular PC game. www.gameoutfitter.com

Re: Garry Kasparov was a Steel-Drivin' Man...

2005-05-06 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/6/05, Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:52 AM 06/05/05 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote: snip This reminds me of the Ballad of John Henry. You might or might not know it; the story is that John Henry, who worked on railroads in the 1900s, was faced with a steam-driven track

Re: A very good NYT article on intelligent design

2005-05-06 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/6/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Maru Dubshinki wrote: On 5/2/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... _Calculating God_, yeah. As it happens I just finished it this weekend. It's an interesting read but Sawyer leaves a gaping

Re: Garry Kasparov was a Steel-Drivin' Man...

2005-05-06 Thread Maru Dubshinki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Henry_%28folklore%29 In a bid to save his job, and the jobs of his men, John Henry challenges the inventor to a contest: John Henry VS. the Steam-Hammer. John defeats the Steam-Hammer in driving spikes, but in the process he suffers a heart attack and dies a

Re: Whale-Dolphin Hybrid Has Baby 'Wholphin'

2005-05-07 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/7/05, Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HONOLULU (AP) _ The only whale-dolphin mix in captivity has given birth to a playful female calf, officials at Sea Life Park Hawaii said Thursday. The calf was born on Dec. 23 to Kekaimalu, a mix of a false killer whale and an Atlantic

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-05-08 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/8/05, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had low expectations, but it was worse than I imagined. I think I'll save myself £5 and not bother seeing this then. What else is coming out in May... The Jacket Ong Bak Palindromes. And Sin City in June! -- William T

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-05-08 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/8/2005 8:55:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Speaking as someone who has seen it already (and was not a fanboy prior to seeing it), Sin City is most definitely worth watching, riveting and

Re: A very good NYT article on intelligent design

2005-05-08 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/2/2005 7:46:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A goof point Warren, but you forget that genes aren't the *only* unit of inheritance- culture is also inherited. Sawyer could have just as well

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-05-09 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/9/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:33 PM Monday 5/9/2005, Maru Dubshinki wrote: On 5/9/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:05 AM Monday 5/9/2005, William T Goodall wrote: On 9 May 2005, at 11:51 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I've heard

Re: coming episode...uh... three?

2005-05-09 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/9/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 9, 2005, at 7:06 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I'm beginning to think this whole list is one big Eliza program I have somehow inadvertently accessed . . . Tell me more about how cinnamon affects your perception of religion, Ronn!.

Re: coming episode...uh... three?

2005-05-10 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/10/05, Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:27 AM Tuesday 5/10/2005, Dave Land wrote: On May 9, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:30 AM Tuesday 5/10/2005, Dave Land wrote: On May 9, 2005, at 9:45 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: I

Re: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-05-11 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/11/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I just wonder what can be done to solve the plight of those millions of human beings, and so far haven't heard much in the way of suggestions on how to save them, or an argument that

Re: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-05-11 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/11/05, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2005 12:47:45 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote Not really, no. Those who criticize? No. People who pontificate endlessly but suggest nothing, who attack any idea but provide none of their own, who preen constantly but

Re: Jane Galt on retirement risk and pensions

2005-05-15 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/15/05, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.janegalt.net/blog/archives/005309.html May 11, 2005 Regulating risk There's a debate that we should be having in this country, about risk, but aren't, because everyone's trading scare stories about Social Security. In a

Re: Revenge of the REAL George Lucas...

2005-05-19 Thread Maru Dubshinki
Oh come on- it was way better than the preceding two, and only a little worse than ROTJ. But I saw this article in USA Today and I have to pass it along: apparently some people think Lucas is a liberal and it reflects in ROTS (incidentally Brin, I am a little surprised you didn't pick up on the

Re: trolling for trolls

2005-05-19 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/18/05, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks on-list. If you make many more personal attacks on-list, the probability of your being placed on moderation will be non-zero.

Re: trolling for trolls

2005-05-19 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/19/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:52 PM Wednesday 5/18/2005, Nick Arnett wrote: On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:45:15 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote * Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've been asked to ask you to tone it down on personal attacks on-list.

Re: Scouted: Having Fun With Intelligent Design

2005-05-31 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/23/05, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Today at lunch, Nick and I were reading reading selections from The Art of Peace by Morihei Ueshiba, the founder of Aikido. It is a tiny book that contains 100-some sayings excerpted from Master Ueshiba's writings. Among them is this:

Re: Will someone, anyone please explain to me..........

2005-05-31 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 5/31/05, Leonard Matusik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None taken Warren, I was smiling when I sent it (not smirking either!) I'm sort of interested in a scenario where the next Thomas Edison(s) pop up in places other than the USA. Technical (bio or otherwise) renders US superiority

Re: Senator Frist on BioWarfare

2005-06-05 Thread Maru Dubshinki
Hmm. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553242660/qid=1117983080/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/103-0035335-7082201 http://tinyurl.com/chv4o 108 used and new, available from .01$ ~Maru On 6/4/05, d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... A PS on this topic: Go onto Amazon and see if you can find a

Re: What do you call this?

2005-06-05 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/5/05, Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://people.freenet.de/kraskapolski/Coolest_Picture_Ever_1.jpg xponent No Idea Maru rob Big. ~Maru Terse ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Apple on Intel

2005-06-07 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/7/05, KZK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William T Goodall wrote: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html Apple are migrating the Mac from the PPC CPU to the x86 over the next two years. x86 based Macs are available for developers now, and the first x86 Macs for sale to

Re: items

2005-06-09 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/9/05, d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buried in the 700-plus page energy bill currently under debate in the U.S. Senate is a provision that provides hundreds of millions of dollars worth of federal loan guarantees for a power project apparently to be built by four former Enron

Re: items

2005-06-09 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/9/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Maru Dubshinki wrote: Is anyone really surpised? Heck, Bush has been favoring big business ever since he first came in- remember how Microsoft *was* going to be broken up, but the DOJ's interventions on its

Re: items

2005-06-09 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/9/05, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 9, 2005, at 12:28 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 01:56 PM Thursday 6/9/2005, Maru Dubshinki wrote: ~Maru Too bad really- if Gore had won, everybody might just be using a real OS. Not that it would matter with us all living

Re: Sci-fi writers look ahead

2005-06-11 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/11/05, Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] And see a very empty future... - jmh The solution to the Fermi Paradox! ~Maru Oh wait, nevermind, there y'all are. ___

Re: Discovery Channel's Greatest American

2005-06-11 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/11/05, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Jun 2005, at 1:28 pm, PAT MATHEWS wrote: And your problem is? His story is very American. He (1) earned his money (2) by creating (or at least finding marketing) a product never seen before, Which product was that? --

Re: Brin: Re: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/14/05, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * David Brin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Please drop dead. Eventually, perhaps. You are a bona fide asshole and I want to hear from you never again. I can keep playing these games as long as you can. I was going to let it drop, but

Re: Brin: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-14 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/14/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:32 PM, David Brin wrote: PS Today announced. The service academies have seen a plummet in applications of unprecedented proportions. The No Child Left Behind bill had an elegant little solution built into

Re: Faith crimes

2005-06-16 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/16/05, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4098172.stm Children are being trafficked into the UK from Africa and used for human sacrifices, a confidential report for the Metropolitan Police suggests. Children are being beaten and even murdered after

Re: Cover-up or protection?

2005-06-18 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/18/05, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] The disease was unknown until 1943, when it was identified and diagnosed among 11 children born in the months after thimerosal was first added to baby vaccines in 1931. No, it wasn't, looking back. The

Re: Free book!

2005-06-19 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/19/05, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Stross has put up a free to download copy of his new novel Accelerando in several formats at http://www.accelerando.org/book/ -- William T Goodall I dunno... If it isn't pirated, it's just not the same. ~Maru Yo ho, ho!

Re: Stross: Accelerando

2005-06-21 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/21/05, Kevin Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Come to think of it, the same line of thought might preclude interaction between AIs and humans. What kind of intelligence could stand to wait a million subjective seconds between each sentence? We might just be too slow and boring for

Re: Wierd News Battle Royale

2005-06-28 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/28/05, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where's the Cat got your tongue joke that clearly is in here somewhere? Nick Turn-about's fair play? ~Maru got nuthin' ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

What is religion (was Re: Religion and social capital)

2005-06-28 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/28/05, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Christian sacrament is more like ca-nibble-ism because those wafers are really tiny :) It would be a whole lot more fun if they transubstantiated some nice BBQ... -- William T Goodall You think far too small, my dear

Re: They were For it before they were Against it

2005-07-11 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 7/11/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see how the multi-world or multiverse model is more conservative than Bohm's idea, though. It sounds considerably more complex and requires a hell of a lot more effort to make it happen. An entire universe at each decision node? For

Re: Half-Blood Prince (No spoilers)

2005-07-16 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 7/16/05, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's 260 minutes to read a 652-page book. I'd call you a fast reader, is what I would do. :) Julia I'm just glad I got (and assembled) my new futon

Re: Harry Potter - no actual spoiler, just a complaint

2005-07-16 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 7/16/05, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THERE IS A MISTAKE ON PAGE 10! At least in the US edition. Was Gautam reading too fast to catch it? :) Julia who is on page 10 Is it the mention of Brockdale Bridge? No Google hits. ~Maru

Re: Harry Potter Discussion (Spoilers!!!) L3

2005-07-17 Thread Maru Dubshinki
Gautam Mukunda wrote: The big shock was not Dumbledore dying, of course - it's been obvious that that had to happen at the end of Book Six since, well, Book 1, probably. What is a huge shock, of course, is that _Snape_ would be the one who murders him. I am quite impressed by

Re: Uplift locations and dates. Hey, Alberto?

2005-07-19 Thread Maru Dubshinki
Perhaps I've missed something rather obvious, but... Why don't you guys just ask Brin about all these niggling lil' details? This is his list, and it's not like he's dead. ~Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

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