Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-09-03 Thread The Fool
 From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Is Justice League Unlimited dead? Or maybe the team that's been
 making these shows since Batman: The Animated Series? I say that,
 because the last episode sure looked like a goodbye.

Season 3 episodes begin on sept 17 at 10pm east 9pm cent.  And 2 more
the following week.

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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent - G.I. Joe

2005-08-29 Thread The Fool
 From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
   G.I. Joe Sigma Six (coming)
 
 CGI, I presume, like the other recent GI Joe movies?

My review:  Mediocre.  Painfully awful music (compared to the original
G.I. Joe theme music it's just awful random noise).  Character designs:
Weak.  Only Storm Shadow was good.  No Cobra commander to reference. 
Missing in action: No Shipwreck, Flint, Lady Jay, etc.  All cobra
troops now seem to robots (BATS).  Exposition: terrible.  All
Technobable all the time, and not the Good technobable.  Voice acting:
Weak.  Destro, The Baroness and Storm Shadow were decent aproximations
but the rest was just weak or awful.  All vehicles are dogawful CGI
crap. Plot: what Plot?

The Fool Gives it a 3 out of 10.

Hasbro blew it again.
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-24 Thread The Fool
 From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The Fool wrote:
 
   Neon Genesis Evangelion (coming)
 
 That's good news. I keep hearing about that show, but I've
 never seen it.
 
 
   FullMetal Alchemist New--in 4 weeks
   Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: 2nd Gig (coming)
 
 Damn good news, on both counts!

Not so fast...Williams street decided to fvck with the schedule again:


On Saturday, October 8 InuYasha will take the 11 p.m. spot, followed by
Fullmetal Alchemist, which will move its premieres to 11:30 p.m.  
Samurai Champloo will begin repeats Saturday, October 8 at 12:30 a.m.,
leading up to new episodes beginning November 19.   After its Sunday
premiere on October 2, The Boondocks will repeat on Saturdays,
beginning October 8 at midnight.   Perfect Hair Forever will now
premiere Sunday, November 13 at 12:15 a.m.   The second-season premiere
of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex has been moved to Saturday,
November 19 at 11 p.m. 
 
   Escaflowne Movie --in 3 weeks
 
 Also good news. The little bit of a series I saw a few years
 back, I think on Fox Kids, was pretty interesting.

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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-22 Thread Max Battcher

Steve Sloan wrote:

Maybe it's just a way of passing the torch to The Batman. The
Batman isn't a bad show, but it's not even remotely as good
as Batman: Animated. The villains are much more shallow, for
one thing.


That sounds like the answer to me.  There were a lot of people 
unsatisfied when Batman Beyond was cancelled.  The movie about The Joker 
helped some...  I guess that Epilogue was one final chance to give the 
Batman Beyond characters a chance to finish things right.  (IIRC, Batman 
Beyond was created specifically for the show, not drawing on previous 
comics, which made it something special to its hard-core fans.)


This hard-core fan says what I just said, but from someone who knows 
what he is talking about: http://www.batbeyond.com/


--
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http://www.worldmaker.net/
I have no idea what I'm doing.
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-22 Thread The Fool
 From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The Fool wrote:
 
   Neon Genesis Evangelion (coming)
 
 That's good news. I keep hearing about that show, but I've
 never seen it.
 
   Gundam Seed
 
 Yup, that was worth watching. It reminds me of a Heinlein
 juvenile, where kids have to learn duty and moral lessons
 against the backdrop of a space war. These Gundam spinoffs
 never seem to run out of excuses for Earth and the space
 colonies to fight in big mecha -- this time, over human
 genetic engineering. The genocidal descendants of the
 Greens rule Earth, while the space colonies are full of
 Coordinators (aka the genetically engineered) and neutrals.

Yes but will they show Gundam Seed Destiny?
 
   .hack//Legend of The Twilight Bracelet
 
 Really weak, compared to the earlier series, .hack/Sign. The
 story, characters, style, and look are nowhere near as good.
 Much more of a kiddie show.

They tie into the .hack games.
 
   MEGAS XLR
 
 Hilarious.
 
   G.I. Joe Sigma Six (coming)
 
 CGI, I presume, like the other recent GI Joe movies?

No. Anime.  I don't watch / promote CGI.
 
   FullMetal Alchemist New--in 4 weeks
   Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: 2nd Gig (coming)
 
 Damn good news, on both counts!
 
   Escaflowne Movie --in 3 weeks
 
 Also good news. The little bit of a series I saw a few years
 back, I think on Fox Kids, was pretty interesting.

From what I've heard the movie and the show are pretty different...
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-22 Thread Julia Thompson

The Fool wrote:

From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CGI, I presume, like the other recent GI Joe movies?



No. Anime.  I don't watch / promote CGI.


So I take it that Veggie Tales is right out as far as you're concerned?

Julia
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-22 Thread The Fool
 From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The Fool wrote:
 From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 CGI, I presume, like the other recent GI Joe movies?
  
  
  No. Anime.  I don't watch / promote CGI.
 
 So I take it that Veggie Tales is right out as far as you're
concerned?

Search your feelings...You know it to be true!
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-22 Thread Julia Thompson

The Fool wrote:

From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]




The Fool wrote:


From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CGI, I presume, like the other recent GI Joe movies?



No. Anime.  I don't watch / promote CGI.


So I take it that Veggie Tales is right out as far as you're


concerned?

Search your feelings...You know it to be true!


Yeah, I suspected.  Just wanted to be sure.  :)

Julia

who has used the Bob would be disappointed with you line more than 
once, actually

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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 11:35 PM Saturday 8/20/2005, The Fool wrote:

[snip]
Saturday:

Morning:
Shinzo
Mew Mew Power
Winx Club
W.I.T.C.H. (usually)
G.I. Joe Sigma Six (coming)



They replaced G. I. Joe's brain with a 70's-era computer made by Xerox?


-- Ronn!  :)



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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread The Fool
 From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Warren Ockrassa wrote:
  [adult swim] on Cartoon Network is a refuge in some ways. There are
  some really interesting toons sent out on the Cartoon Network late 
  at
  night -- great ones such as Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist and 
  the
  Turner creations Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Venture Brothers.
 
 As the chatroom gang can tell you, I am a devoted watcher of the 
 Cartoon Network every saturday night, all night.G
 
  (Inuyasha … yawn.
 
 I really like Inuyasha. Yeah it is a tad soapy, but I enjoy the 
 storytelling even when it is a bit thin. The opening and ending
themes 
 are always exceptionally good pop though, and I have a great 
 appreciation for the way the Japanese seemed to have learned how to
do 
 Pop better than we do.

Because MTV  VH1 stopped showing videos?  And when they do show videos
it all rap-$#!+ all the time.
 
 Soap opera. Samurai Champloo: Rocks tha' hizzouse.
  Kurosawa goes toon.)
 
 Also soapy, but the action is awesome. I can't wait for Jin and 
 Rap-Bastard to get into a fight again.G
 
 
 
  But there are a couple of sterling anime examples they've been
  retransmitting. FLCL, at just six 30-minute episodes, is arguably 
  the
  strangest, but definitely the most creative. The storyline is more 
  or
  less standard alien-invasion fare, but the series makes bold
  experiments with the toon genre, breaking into maga style just
for
  kicks, for instance, and the end titles are set to Ride on
Shooting
  Star, an interesting and energetic example of the punk genre as
  interpreted by a Japanese mindset, capably rendered by The Pillows.
 
 I like the music, but everything else about this series sucks IMO.
 
Because you don't get the references?
 
 
  Paranoia Agent is weird too with its story centering around a
  rollerblading boy with a metal bat who begins by stunning people
who
  are at the ends of their ropes -- and who becomes something much 
  more
  sinister. The soundtrack for the series is scored by Susumu 
  Hirasawa,
  and his musical explorations are fascinating. In the series
  soundtrack, his main title sequence (Yume no Shima Shinen Kouen) 
  is
  unmistakable, but a later experiment, Jouken Douji, is probably 
  the
  gem of the disc.
 
 I haven't missed an episode. Very addicting and the plot twists are 
 tasty.
 
 
 
  This isn't just about music, of course; it's about how the melding 
  of
  music with visuals seems to have affected anime in a way totally
  different from how it's manifested in the States in the form of MTV
  and its offspring. On the whole I think the Nipponese flavor is
much
  more intriguing. I was just wondering if anyone else here was
  watching … and listening … and had comments to make.
 
 I think my favorite is FullMetal Alchemist. The backstory is complex 
 with interesting social implications and with every episode I want to

 chew chew chew. Great opening theme song, Japanese hard rock with 
 progressive overtones. I searched it out and D/Led it.
 
 But have you been watching Justice League Unlimited, Zatch Bell, and 
 One Piece?

How can you watch 4kids piece when it's been absolutely butchered, way
beyond even saban's old DragonBallZ Dub.  They CUT OUT 30 whole
dogda/V\ned episodes.  The Vileness that is 4kids piece is too much to
bear.

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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread The Fool
 From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The Fool wrote:
  From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  [adult swim] on Cartoon Network is a refuge in some ways.
  
  ---
  You''re implying that their are other things to watch on tv.
  ---
 
 I find The Weather Channel to be gripping.  Most of it isn't reruns. 
 One of the bits that occasionally *is* a rerun documented, among
other 
 things, what happened at a particular bridge I drive over regularly, 
 under some particularly dangerous weather circumstances.  That one's 
 always gripping.  (And you can be darn sure I monitor Brushy Creek
right 
 there as best I can, and have an alternate route whose bridge over 
 Brushy Creek is a lot higher!)
 
 And it can impart useful information in a manner that takes less
effort 
 than, say, actively seeking it on the web or through WeatherBug.  (I 
 just love it when they show radar loops for other parts of the US!)

Bah.  The Whether channel is worse than useless when any significant
T-storm/tornado watch/warnings come.

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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread The Fool
 From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 FLCL: IMHO I just don't understand. Not in a creative avant garde
mode, 
 but I just don't see the artistic background. Not because I don't get
anime 
 (my anime collection outnumbers my traditional movie collection), but

 because it seems the show was made for someone with ADD. I also I
dislike 
 the animation style.
 
 Paranoia Agent is really good; good music, intruging plot, etc. I
don't see 
 it often enough to get into it though...
 
 My current fave was Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone COmplex. Great
show, 
 great animation (some of the fight scenes are quite impressive from a

 technical standpoint). In terms of music/anime melding Serial
Experiment 
 Lain turned me onto a British group called Boa. Their debut full
length CD 
 is in my short-stack.

I really HATE the CGI sequences.  Awful.
 
 Samurai Champloo is another great one (done by the same people as
Cowboy 
 Beebop? Mugen does have a passing resemblance to Spike...), just wish
it 
 was longer.

If you mean Sunrise, then Yes. 26 Eps is too short?  Probably.
 
 Inuyasha could be more interesting, if it delved more into Japanese 
 mythology, and less into the emotional life of teen-aged Japanese
girls.

Their's nothing wrong with that.
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread The Fool
From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 8/21/05, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Daily:
 Detective Conan (case closed) (+sat  sun)
 Southpark
 Totally Spies
 DragonballZ Uncut
 Inu-Yasha Reruns
 Futurama
 FullMetal Alchemist
 Coboy Bebop
 Fairly Oddparents
 The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy (AKA Grim And Evil)
 Teen Titans

Fairly Oddparents, but no Spongebob Squarepants?

---
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread Steve Sloan

Robert Seeberger wrote:

  Soap opera. Samurai Champloo: Rocks tha' hizzouse.
  Kurosawa goes toon.)

 Also soapy, but the action is awesome. I can't wait for
 Jin and Rap-Bastard to get into a fight again.G

Good show, and the warning at the beginning of the show was
just funny. The beat-box samurai thing was hilarious.

  But there are a couple of sterling anime examples they've
  been retransmitting. FLCL, at just six 30-minute episodes,
  is arguably the strangest, but definitely the most creative.
  The storyline is more or less standard alien-invasion fare,
  but the series makes bold experiments with the toon genre,
  breaking into maga style just for kicks, for instance, and
  the end titles are set to Ride on Shooting Star, an
  interesting and energetic example of the punk genre as
  interpreted by a Japanese mindset, capably rendered
  by The Pillows.

 I like the music, but everything else about this series sucks IMO.

There are occasional fun things in the show. I particularly liked
one behind the scenes scene, where the actors were back in
their trailer, complaining about filming a stunt sequence that
had just happened on the show.

At one time, the Adult Swim bumper comments for this show said
it was just a way for the animators in the studio to blow off
steam, and that makes sense. There's no real storyline, just a
bunch of experimental gags strung together. I notice a lot of
Plimpton influence, with all that weird stuff about pulling
things out of your head.

  Paranoia Agent is weird too with its story centering around
  a rollerblading boy with a metal bat who begins by stunning
  people who are at the ends of their ropes -- and who becomes
  something much more sinister.

 I haven't missed an episode. Very addicting and the plot
 twists are tasty.

It's a very weird show, but it's a weird show that makes sense.
If you pay attention, there is an actual storyline there, and it
came together nicely in last night's final episode. I'm still
pondering the old guy with the chalk, and how he might have tied
into history. Now that I think about it, wasn't he in the opening
sequence, laughing with a mushroom cloud in the background? I
shouldn't say any more without spoiler warnings, though.

 I think my favorite is FullMetal Alchemist. The backstory is
 complex with interesting social implications and with every
 episode I want to chew chew chew.

I agree completely. Back when it and Ghost in the Shell:
Stand-Alone Complex premiered together, I thought I would like
Ghost more, because of the style and subject matter. FullMetal
turned out to be much more interesting than I thought from the
previews.

 But have you been watching Justice League Unlimited, Zatch
 Bell, and One Piece?

Is Justice League Unlimited dead? Or maybe the team that's been
making these shows since Batman: The Animated Series? I say that,
because the last episode sure looked like a goodbye.

The title, Epilogue, sounds like it, but that's not all. It
wrapped up the Batman Beyond storyline. The way it told stories
about Batman reminded me of a funeral. It also ended with a
scene that mirrored the first scene of Batman: Animated: heavy
clouds over Gotham, two cops patrolling in a floating police
vehicle, and a mysterious bat figure flying by. I think the
cops' dialog was even the same. The two scenes showed two
different eras of Gotham, and the vehicles were different
(a police blimp vs. some kind of futuristic antigrav car), and
the bat figures were different (Man-Bat vs. McGinnis as Batman),
but there was an obvious homage there.

Maybe it's just a way of passing the torch to The Batman. The
Batman isn't a bad show, but it's not even remotely as good
as Batman: Animated. The villains are much more shallow, for
one thing.
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread Robert Seeberger
The Fool wrote:
 From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Warren Ockrassa wrote:
 [adult swim] on Cartoon Network is a refuge in some ways. There 
 are
 some really interesting toons sent out on the Cartoon Network late
 at
 night -- great ones such as Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist and
 the
 Turner creations Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Venture Brothers.

 As the chatroom gang can tell you, I am a devoted watcher of the
 Cartoon Network every saturday night, all night.G

 (Inuyasha … yawn.

 I really like Inuyasha. Yeah it is a tad soapy, but I enjoy the
 storytelling even when it is a bit thin. The opening and ending
 themes are always exceptionally good pop though, and I have a great
 appreciation for the way the Japanese seemed to have learned how to
 do Pop better than we do.

 Because MTV  VH1 stopped showing videos?  And when they do show
 videos it all rap-$#!+ all the time.

I don't care a whit about videos.
*It's the music dammit!!!*
I just like the opening and closing themes of all the Inuyasha series.
Quite beautiful!



 Soap opera. Samurai Champloo: Rocks tha' hizzouse.
 Kurosawa goes toon.)

 Also soapy, but the action is awesome. I can't wait for Jin and
 Rap-Bastard to get into a fight again.G



 But there are a couple of sterling anime examples they've been
 retransmitting. FLCL, at just six 30-minute episodes, is arguably
 the
 strangest, but definitely the most creative. The storyline is more
 or
 less standard alien-invasion fare, but the series makes bold
 experiments with the toon genre, breaking into maga style just 
 for
 kicks, for instance, and the end titles are set to Ride on 
 Shooting
 Star, an interesting and energetic example of the punk genre as
 interpreted by a Japanese mindset, capably rendered by The 
 Pillows.

 I like the music, but everything else about this series sucks IMO.

 Because you don't get the references?

Well...I don't find anything in the series that causes me to care 
about references.
It is just too chaotic with too little story.




 Paranoia Agent is weird too with its story centering around a
 rollerblading boy with a metal bat who begins by stunning people 
 who
 are at the ends of their ropes -- and who becomes something much
 more
 sinister. The soundtrack for the series is scored by Susumu
 Hirasawa,
 and his musical explorations are fascinating. In the series
 soundtrack, his main title sequence (Yume no Shima Shinen Kouen)
 is
 unmistakable, but a later experiment, Jouken Douji, is probably
 the
 gem of the disc.

 I haven't missed an episode. Very addicting and the plot twists are
 tasty.



 This isn't just about music, of course; it's about how the melding
 of
 music with visuals seems to have affected anime in a way totally
 different from how it's manifested in the States in the form of 
 MTV
 and its offspring. On the whole I think the Nipponese flavor is 
 much
 more intriguing. I was just wondering if anyone else here was
 watching … and listening … and had comments to make.

 I think my favorite is FullMetal Alchemist. The backstory is 
 complex
 with interesting social implications and with every episode I want 
 to

 chew chew chew. Great opening theme song, Japanese hard rock with
 progressive overtones. I searched it out and D/Led it.

 But have you been watching Justice League Unlimited, Zatch Bell, 
 and
 One Piece?

 How can you watch 4kids piece when it's been absolutely butchered, 
 way
 beyond even saban's old DragonBallZ Dub.  They CUT OUT 30 whole
 dogda/V\ned episodes.  The Vileness that is 4kids piece is too much 
 to
 bear.

One Piece is pretty cool, but if there is a better version I would 
like to see it.


xponent
Animeted Maru
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread The Fool
 From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 It's a very weird show, but it's a weird show that makes sense.
 If you pay attention, there is an actual storyline there, and it
 came together nicely in last night's final episode. I'm still
 pondering the old guy with the chalk, and how he might have tied
 into history. Now that I think about it, wasn't he in the opening
 sequence, laughing with a mushroom cloud in the background? I
 shouldn't say any more without spoiler warnings, though.

Slight Spoiler:

S
P
A
C
E

The Equations at least the first two times were refereneces to the
people who were boinked.  
 
   But have you been watching Justice League Unlimited, Zatch
   Bell, and One Piece?
 
 Is Justice League Unlimited dead? Or maybe the team that's been

No.

 making these shows since Batman: The Animated Series? I say that,
 because the last episode sure looked like a goodbye.

Looks can be decieving.
 
 The title, Epilogue, sounds like it, but that's not all. It
 wrapped up the Batman Beyond storyline. The way it told stories
 about Batman reminded me of a funeral. It also ended with a
 scene that mirrored the first scene of Batman: Animated: heavy
 clouds over Gotham, two cops patrolling in a floating police
 vehicle, and a mysterious bat figure flying by. I think the
 cops' dialog was even the same. The two scenes showed two
 different eras of Gotham, and the vehicles were different
 (a police blimp vs. some kind of futuristic antigrav car), and
 the bat figures were different (Man-Bat vs. McGinnis as Batman),
 but there was an obvious homage there.
 
 Maybe it's just a way of passing the torch to The Batman. The
 Batman isn't a bad show, but it's not even remotely as good
 as Batman: Animated. The villains are much more shallow, for
 one thing.

teh batman is teh S uck
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread The Fool
 From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The Fool wrote:
  From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  I like the music, but everything else about this series sucks IMO.
 
  Because you don't get the references?
 
 Well...I don't find anything in the series that causes me to care

 about references.
 It is just too chaotic with too little story.
 

You don't get the references.
 
 
  But have you been watching Justice League Unlimited, Zatch Bell, 
  and
  One Piece?
 
  How can you watch 4kids piece when it's been absolutely butchered, 
  way
  beyond even saban's old DragonBallZ Dub.  They CUT OUT 30 whole
  dogda/V\ned episodes.  The Vileness that is 4kids piece is too much

  to
  bear.
 
 One Piece is pretty cool, but if there is a better version I would 
 like to see it.

Again: They CUT OUT 30 whole dogda/V\ned episodes.

I suggest Kazzaa or bittorent.
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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread Julia Thompson

The Fool wrote:

From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Fool wrote:


From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[adult swim] on Cartoon Network is a refuge in some ways.

---
You''re implying that their are other things to watch on tv.
---


I find The Weather Channel to be gripping.  Most of it isn't reruns. 
One of the bits that occasionally *is* a rerun documented, among


other 

things, what happened at a particular bridge I drive over regularly, 
under some particularly dangerous weather circumstances.  That one's 
always gripping.  (And you can be darn sure I monitor Brushy Creek


right 

there as best I can, and have an alternate route whose bridge over 
Brushy Creek is a lot higher!)


And it can impart useful information in a manner that takes less


effort 

than, say, actively seeking it on the web or through WeatherBug.  (I 
just love it when they show radar loops for other parts of the US!)



Bah.  The Whether channel is worse than useless when any significant
T-storm/tornado watch/warnings come.


Oh, I have Weatherbug for that.  :)  When the stupid chirping sound 
starts up, I go check to see what it is.  If it's something where I 
really need up-to-the-minute coverage, I can change the TV to KVUE or 
KXAN (I prefer the lead meteorologist on KVUE, but KXAN has some niftier 
tools they use) and someone who knows what they're talking about and 
gives a @#$% about the people affected will do a decent job of helping 
us figure out who needs to hit the ground when.


The Weather Channel is more entertainment than anything else for me.  (I 
like watching hurricane footage, OK?)


Julia

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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-21 Thread Steve Sloan

The Fool wrote:

 Neon Genesis Evangelion (coming)

That's good news. I keep hearing about that show, but I've
never seen it.

 Gundam Seed

Yup, that was worth watching. It reminds me of a Heinlein
juvenile, where kids have to learn duty and moral lessons
against the backdrop of a space war. These Gundam spinoffs
never seem to run out of excuses for Earth and the space
colonies to fight in big mecha -- this time, over human
genetic engineering. The genocidal descendants of the
Greens rule Earth, while the space colonies are full of
Coordinators (aka the genetically engineered) and neutrals.

 .hack//Legend of The Twilight Bracelet

Really weak, compared to the earlier series, .hack/Sign. The
story, characters, style, and look are nowhere near as good.
Much more of a kiddie show.

 MEGAS XLR

Hilarious.

 G.I. Joe Sigma Six (coming)

CGI, I presume, like the other recent GI Joe movies?

 FullMetal Alchemist New--in 4 weeks
 Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: 2nd Gig (coming)

Damn good news, on both counts!

 Escaflown Movie --in 3 weeks

Also good news. The little bit of a series I saw a few years
back, I think on Fox Kids, was pretty interesting.
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FLCL and Paranoia Agent…

2005-08-20 Thread Warren Ockrassa
[adult swim] on Cartoon Network is a refuge in some ways. There are 
some really interesting toons sent out on the Cartoon Network late at 
night -- great ones such as Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist and the 
Turner creations Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Venture Brothers.


(Inuyasha … yawn. Soap opera. Samurai Champloo: Rocks tha' hizzouse. 
Kurosawa goes toon.)


But there are a couple of sterling anime examples they've been 
retransmitting. FLCL, at just six 30-minute episodes, is arguably the 
strangest, but definitely the most creative. The storyline is more or 
less standard alien-invasion fare, but the series makes bold 
experiments with the toon genre, breaking into maga style just for 
kicks, for instance, and the end titles are set to Ride on Shooting 
Star, an interesting and energetic example of the punk genre as 
interpreted by a Japanese mindset, capably rendered by The Pillows.


Paranoia Agent is weird too with its story centering around a 
rollerblading boy with a metal bat who begins by stunning people who 
are at the ends of their ropes -- and who becomes something much more 
sinister. The soundtrack for the series is scored by Susumu Hirasawa, 
and his musical explorations are fascinating. In the series soundtrack, 
his main title sequence (Yume no Shima Shinen Kouen) is unmistakable, 
but a later experiment, Jouken Douji, is probably the gem of the 
disc.


This isn't just about music, of course; it's about how the melding of 
music with visuals seems to have affected anime in a way totally 
different from how it's manifested in the States in the form of MTV and 
its offspring. On the whole I think the Nipponese flavor is much more 
intriguing. I was just wondering if anyone else here was watching … and 
listening … and had comments to make.



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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent…

2005-08-20 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Aug 20, 2005, at 4:20 AM, I wrote:

The soundtrack for the series is scored by Susumu Hirasawa, and his 
musical explorations are fascinating. In the series soundtrack, his 
main title sequence (Yume no Shima Shinen Kouen) is unmistakable, 
but a later experiment, Jouken Douji, is probably the gem of the 
disc.


I should add, just because I'm listening to it now and so was 
forcefully reminded of my forgetfulness, that the track following 
Jouken Douji, Kuroi Hama, is lovely, lovely, beautiful and rich.


I should also add that I was a fan of Thomas Dolby from the beginning, 
starting with She Blinded me with Science and going from there, and 
that I like Fatboy Slim as well. I was also an early adopter of The 
Police. I offer this to help others see where my tastes lie to better 
gauge whether my current drivel has any chromatic relevance to them.



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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent…

2005-08-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Warren Ockrassa wrote:

 (Inuyasha … yawn. Soap opera. Samurai Champloo: Rocks tha' hizzouse.
 Kurosawa goes toon.)

Inuyasha is a must among brazilian teenager girls - surprisingly,
my daughters don't like it.

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent…

2005-08-20 Thread Warren Ockrassa

On Aug 20, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:


Warren Ockrassa wrote:


(Inuyasha … yawn. Soap opera. Samurai Champloo: Rocks tha' hizzouse.
Kurosawa goes toon.)


Inuyasha is a must among brazilian teenager girls -


US teens too.


surprisingly, my daughters don't like it.


Ah, so they have taste. Good.


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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-20 Thread Robert Seeberger
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
 [adult swim] on Cartoon Network is a refuge in some ways. There are
 some really interesting toons sent out on the Cartoon Network late 
 at
 night -- great ones such as Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist and 
 the
 Turner creations Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Venture Brothers.

As the chatroom gang can tell you, I am a devoted watcher of the 
Cartoon Network every saturday night, all night.G

 (Inuyasha … yawn.

I really like Inuyasha. Yeah it is a tad soapy, but I enjoy the 
storytelling even when it is a bit thin. The opening and ending themes 
are always exceptionally good pop though, and I have a great 
appreciation for the way the Japanese seemed to have learned how to do 
Pop better than we do.

Soap opera. Samurai Champloo: Rocks tha' hizzouse.
 Kurosawa goes toon.)

Also soapy, but the action is awesome. I can't wait for Jin and 
Rap-Bastard to get into a fight again.G



 But there are a couple of sterling anime examples they've been
 retransmitting. FLCL, at just six 30-minute episodes, is arguably 
 the
 strangest, but definitely the most creative. The storyline is more 
 or
 less standard alien-invasion fare, but the series makes bold
 experiments with the toon genre, breaking into maga style just for
 kicks, for instance, and the end titles are set to Ride on Shooting
 Star, an interesting and energetic example of the punk genre as
 interpreted by a Japanese mindset, capably rendered by The Pillows.

I like the music, but everything else about this series sucks IMO.



 Paranoia Agent is weird too with its story centering around a
 rollerblading boy with a metal bat who begins by stunning people who
 are at the ends of their ropes -- and who becomes something much 
 more
 sinister. The soundtrack for the series is scored by Susumu 
 Hirasawa,
 and his musical explorations are fascinating. In the series
 soundtrack, his main title sequence (Yume no Shima Shinen Kouen) 
 is
 unmistakable, but a later experiment, Jouken Douji, is probably 
 the
 gem of the disc.

I haven't missed an episode. Very addicting and the plot twists are 
tasty.



 This isn't just about music, of course; it's about how the melding 
 of
 music with visuals seems to have affected anime in a way totally
 different from how it's manifested in the States in the form of MTV
 and its offspring. On the whole I think the Nipponese flavor is much
 more intriguing. I was just wondering if anyone else here was
 watching … and listening … and had comments to make.

I think my favorite is FullMetal Alchemist. The backstory is complex 
with interesting social implications and with every episode I want to 
chew chew chew. Great opening theme song, Japanese hard rock with 
progressive overtones. I searched it out and D/Led it.

But have you been watching Justice League Unlimited, Zatch Bell, and 
One Piece?

I watch 5 or 6 hours every Saturday.

xponent
Toon Are You? Maru
rob 


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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-20 Thread The Fool
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[adult swim] on Cartoon Network is a refuge in some ways.

---
You''re implying that their are other things to watch on tv.
---

 There are 
some really interesting toons sent out on the Cartoon Network late at 
night -- great ones such as Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist and the 
Turner creations Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Venture Brothers.

(Inuyasha … yawn.

---
Says you.
---

 Soap opera. Samurai Champloo: Rocks tha' hizzouse. 
Kurosawa goes toon.)

But there are a couple of sterling anime examples they've been 
retransmitting. FLCL, at just six 30-minute episodes, is arguably the 

---
Starting over tonight with the first episodde BTW.  The Last episode is
several minutes longer.  They are actually 24 minutes with one 2 minute
commercial break.
---


strangest, but definitely the most creative. The storyline is more or 

---
It filled with references/homages to other shows etc.  Kindda like
super Milk Chan but Better.
---

less standard alien-invasion fare, but the series makes bold 
experiments with the toon genre, breaking into maga style just for 

---
manga
---

kicks, for instance, and the end titles are set to Ride on Shooting 
Star, an interesting and energetic example of the punk genre as 
interpreted by a Japanese mindset, capably rendered by The Pillows.


Paranoia Agent is weird too with its story centering around a 
rollerblading boy with a metal bat who begins by stunning people who 
are at the ends of their ropes -- and who becomes something much more 
sinister. The soundtrack for the series is scored by Susumu Hirasawa, 
and his musical explorations are fascinating. In the series soundtrack,

his main title sequence (Yume no Shima Shinen Kouen) is unmistakable,

but a later experiment, Jouken Douji, is probably the gem of the 
disc.

---
The 13th and final episode is airing tonight.  DO NOT start watching
with this episode.  This series must be watched in order to grasp
what's going on.  
---


This isn't just about music, of course; it's about how the melding of 
music with visuals seems to have affected anime in a way totally 
different from how it's manifested in the States in the form of MTV and

its offspring. On the whole I think the Nipponese flavor is much more 
intriguing. I was just wondering if anyone else here was watching … and

listening … and had comments to make.

---
The background music from Big O, Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist and
Inu-Yasha are very good.  W.I.T.C.H., Fullmetal Alchemist, Coboy Bebop,
and YuYu Hakusho have very good OP, and EDs.

Animated shows worth watching:

Sundays:
Morning:
Rave Master
Shinzo
W.I.T.C.H. (sometimes)

Evening:
Family Guy
American Dad
Robot Chicken
The Venture Brothers
Aqua Teen Hunger Force
Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law
Oblongs
Stroker and Hoop


Daily:
Detective Conan (case closed) (+sat  sun)
Southpark
Totally Spies
DragonballZ Uncut
Inu-Yasha Reruns
Futurama
FullMetal Alchemist
Coboy Bebop
Fairly Oddparents
The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy (AKA Grim And Evil)
Teen Titans

Wednesday:
Southpark
At 1AM:
Dilbert (sometimes)
DuckMan (sometimes)

Thursday:
AS Premiers:
Family Guy
American Dad
Neon Genesis Evangelion (coming)
AS New Comedy repeats
AS Action Repeats (except new Inu-Yasha)

Friday:
New Various on CN  Nick
Avatar: The Last Airbender

Midnight:
Gundam Seed
.hack//Legend of The Twilight Bracelet
Justice League
Samurai Jack
MEGAS XLR
Evil Con Carne (AKA Grim  Evil)
Timesquad

Saturday:

Morning:
Shinzo
Mew Mew Power
Winx Club
W.I.T.C.H. (usually)
G.I. Joe Sigma Six (coming)
Magical DoReMi (coming)
Shaman King (Ending)
Dilbert (sometimes)
Duckman (sometimes)

Evening:
Teen Titans
Justice League Unlimited
Zatch Bell
Naruto (coming)

Coming:
YuYu Hakusho (will likely return)
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo ??
Wulin Warriors: Legend of the Seven Stars ??
Immortal Grand Prix ??
Prequel to Jim Henson's The Dark Crystal  ??

AS Action:
Futurama
Perfect hair Forever (coming)
Inu-Yasha New
Samarai Champloo (rerun for now more later)
s.CRY.ed
Paranoia Agent (reruns after today??)
FLCL
FullMetal Alchemist New--in 4 weeks
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: 2nd Gig (coming)

Movies:
Inu-Yasha 2 --Next Week
Coboy Bebop: Knocking on Heavens Door --in 2 weeks
Escaflown Movie --in 3 weeks

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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent…

2005-08-20 Thread Damon Agretto



FLCL: IMHO I just don't understand. Not in a creative avant garde mode, 
but I just don't see the artistic background. Not because I don't get anime 
(my anime collection outnumbers my traditional movie collection), but 
because it seems the show was made for someone with ADD. I also I dislike 
the animation style.


Paranoia Agent is really good; good music, intruging plot, etc. I don't see 
it often enough to get into it though...


My current fave was Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone COmplex. Great show, 
great animation (some of the fight scenes are quite impressive from a 
technical standpoint). In terms of music/anime melding Serial Experiment 
Lain turned me onto a British group called Boa. Their debut full length CD 
is in my short-stack.


Samurai Champloo is another great one (done by the same people as Cowboy 
Beebop? Mugen does have a passing resemblance to Spike...), just wish it 
was longer.


Inuyasha could be more interesting, if it delved more into Japanese 
mythology, and less into the emotional life of teen-aged Japanese girls.


Damon, watching...


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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-20 Thread Damon Agretto



But have you been watching Justice League Unlimited, Zatch Bell, and
One Piece?


JLU can be surprisingly good and complex. Lots of great superhero 
speculation. Not crazy about the animation style, but the scripting is 
usually solid.


Zatch Bell interests me in the least, and I really don't like One Piece 
(dissappointed they show this so much...)


Damon.


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Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent

2005-08-20 Thread Bryon Daly
On 8/21/05, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Daily:
 Detective Conan (case closed) (+sat  sun)
 Southpark
 Totally Spies
 DragonballZ Uncut
 Inu-Yasha Reruns
 Futurama
 FullMetal Alchemist
 Coboy Bebop
 Fairly Oddparents
 The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy (AKA Grim And Evil)
 Teen Titans

Fairly Oddparents, but no Spongebob Squarepants?
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