creationist laws

2003-01-14 Thread The Fool
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/legal.htm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Kevin Tarr wrote: My spell check thinks Clinton isn't a word. Should I call him Clifton, Clayton, or (my pick) Citron? Citron? Nah, lemon is more likely. Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: OT: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-14 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Horn, John wrote: Is there a utility out there for Win2K (or is there something build in) that will save the look of your desktop and restore it when it gets screwed up. I keep arranging my desktop just the way I like it and then something weird will happen and all the icons will be crammed

riaa

2003-01-14 Thread The Fool
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28842.html Is the RIAA hacking you back? By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco Posted: 14/01/2003 at 00:29 GMT The RIAA is preparing to infect MP3 files in order to audit and eventually disable file swapping, according to a startling claim by hacker group

Re: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea)

2003-01-14 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Deborah Harrell wrote in respons to JDG rethorics on how abortion kills 'children'. snipped: The percieved evil of legal abortion put into perspective using information on the real evil of the current situation with respect to actual child abuse of real living breathing feeling children

Re: Child abuse

2003-01-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Deborah Harrell wrote: The UNESCO report couldn't even give estimates of the numbers for Asia and Africa (or South America, but there are few listings of systematic abuses for that continent, particularly with regard to cultural practices such as child marriage, genital mutilation

RE: riaa

2003-01-14 Thread Gary L. Nunn
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28842.html Is the RIAA hacking you back? By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco Posted: 14/01/2003 at 00:29 GMT The RIAA is preparing to infect MP3 files in order to audit and eventually disable file swapping, according to a Assuming that this is

Re: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea)

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:04 AM Subject: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea) I didn't plan on writing on abortion. But, this post was so stident, I felt I had to. Not specks of potential

Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread J.D. Giorgis
Subject: Late Term Kansas Abortionist to Perform Free Abortions Source: Lawrence Journal World January 13, 2003 Late Term Kansas Abortionist to Perform Free Abortions Wichita, KS -- George Tiller, the infamous Kansas late-term abortionist, will do free abortions on poor women Saturday to

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread David Hobby
Trolling again, are we? : ) Wichita, KS -- George Tiller, the infamous Kansas late-term abortionist, will do free abortions on poor women Saturday to mark 30 years since the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion. ... I think that the above really hits home the

Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/books/01/13/1421/index.html http://www.1421.tv/ NEW YORK (CNN) -- In his new book, 1421: The Year China Discovered America (William Morrow)[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060537639/eogan-20], Gavin Menzies claims that a massive Chinese fleet of huge

Positives in Rebuilding Afghanistan

2003-01-14 Thread J.D. Giorgis
An article in this week's Economist discusses many of the positive accomplishments in Afghanistan, while also parsing few words about how very far remains to go in rebuilding in Afghanistan. Nevertheless, I think that it would be good to accentuate some of the positives, just one year after the

Re: riaa

2003-01-14 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 14 Jan 2003 at 4:22, The Fool wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28842.html Is the RIAA hacking you back? The answer is services like eDonkey2000/Overnet, which DO checksum files, and you can obtain web-links which contain the checksum, ensuring you get the right file. This

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/14/03 9:08:36 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gavin Menzies claims that a massive Chinese fleet of huge junks and support ships made a two-year circumnavigation of the globe, with extensive exploration of the Americas, nearly a century before

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Steve Sloan II
Miller, Jeffrey wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/books/01/13/1421/index.html http://www.1421.tv/ NEW YORK (CNN) -- In his new book, 1421: The Year China Discovered America (William Morrow) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060537639/eogan-20 Gavin Menzies claims that a massive

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
Or, alternatively, John could just read this e-mail... which I missed. *sigh* It's been a long morning!!! Jon GSV Doh! From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Desktop Icon Utility Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:09:27 -0600 From:

Re: Alpha Mails (Was: Re: Scouted: Last of transplanted wolveskilled)

2003-01-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Alpha Mails (Was: Re: Scouted: Last of transplanted wolveskilled) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:14:58 -0600 Doug Pensinger wrote: In terms of Nick's analysis of how many months at the top, Stefan would have to challenge Julia. Through all of

Re: OT: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin Mailing List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Desktop Icon Utility Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:23:20 -0600 Is there a utility out there for Win2K (or is there something build in) that will save the look of your desktop

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Damon
Pity they didn't bump into any Vikings. That's about a 500 year difference in time. Not possible (unless they ran into some Scandinavians of 1421...who were mostly Christians so it would not have been quite so spectacular...) Sorry, the repeating crossbow vs. the Daneaxe just not

Re: riaa

2003-01-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: riaa Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:17:05 - On 14 Jan 2003 at 4:22, The Fool wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28842.html Is the RIAA hacking you back? The answer is services like eDonkey2000/Overnet, which DO checksum files,

RE: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 14 januari 2003 3:19 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: More on North Korea That's the administration's response to a dilemma that they were instrumental in creating: Ahem.The

Re: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: RE: More on North Korea -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 14 januari 2003 3:19 Aan: [EMAIL

RE: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 14 januari 2003 5:43 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: RE: More on North Korea And here I thought that liberals admired principle and diversity of opinions. Guess not. Exactly what do

RE: Alpha Mails

2003-01-14 Thread Horn, John
From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] +--+--+ | pseudonym| count(*) | +--+--+ snip Something about this has been eating at me for a few days

RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: J.D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: Geen Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Is Anyone Else Offended By This? Late Term Kansas Abortionist to Perform Free Abortions Wichita, KS -- George Tiller, the infamous Kansas late-term abortionist,

RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Steve Sloan II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 08:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America Miller, Jeffrey wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/books/01/13/1421/index.html

RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Damon
I am shocked to see that you apparently believe that women would get an abortion simply because they can get it for free. Really John, making such a decision is a hell of a lot harder than that. I agree. I had a friend who needed to get an abortion. It certainly opened up my perspective on

RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Damon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 09:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America Pity they didn't bump into any Vikings. That's about a 500 year difference in time. Actually

RE: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 08:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: More on North Korea It is pretty much the most traumatic thing that could happen to a person. I'd like to quietly agree with

RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Damon
Actually more like 75-100, but who's counting? ;) Wait...how is it 75-100? The great period of the Vikings ended around 1100 but really started to die down some time before that. Unless you mean Viking=Scandinavian...which is WRONG! The term Viking refers to those usually from Scandinavia

Re: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: RE: More on North Korea -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 14 januari 2003 5:43 Aan: [EMAIL

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread William T Goodall
on 14/1/03 4:58 pm, Steve Sloan II at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The voyages of the Vikings, Chinese, and Amerigo Vespucci are all very impressive, but they all *quit going* after a while, kinda like the US and the Moon. ;-) Columbus' trip was different, because after he arrived, European

Abortion (Was: RE: More on North Korea)

2003-01-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: More on North Korea Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:03:42 +0100 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 14 januari 2003 5:43 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: RE: More on North Korea snipped: the

Blix Endorses US Policy on Iraq

2003-01-14 Thread J.D. Giorgis
Many people have argued that Bush's hard-nosed policy in regards to Iraq has been instrumental in unifying the UN Security Council in regards to the situation, and then producing the first UN inspections in years in Iraq. Apparently Hans Blix agrees with this assessment From UN Wire: Blix

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 13:18 2003-01-14 -0600, Dan wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This? The only ludicrous thing about the abortion situation is that a bunch of right-wing religious

RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Damon
Depends on your definition of great Viking period. My definition is SPECIFICALLY the period of Nordic expansion, or around 793 to 1100. The Scandinavian Crusades after this period more rightly belong to the general period of European Expansion as much of the Scandinavian world was becoming

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
JDG wrote: Subject: Late Term Kansas Abortionist to Perform Free Abortions Source: Lawrence Journal World January 13, 2003 Late Term Kansas Abortionist to Perform Free Abortions No, I don't feel offended at all. If abortion is legal, why not do a mass-abortion? Maybe they should show

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jeffrey Miller wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/books/01/13/1421/index.html http://www.1421.tv/ NEW YORK (CNN) -- In his new book, 1421: The Year China Discovered America (William Morrow)[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060537639/eogan-20], Gavin Menzies claims that a massive

Re: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Kevin wrote: My spell check thinks Clinton isn't a word. Should I call him Clifton, Clayton, or (my pick) Citron? Sonja replied: Citron? Nah, lemon is more likely. You wouldn't be referring to Led Zeppelin's The Lemon Song, would you? Reggie Bautista Interesting Metaphor Maru

Re: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea)

2003-01-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Debbi wrote: I have made plain my position that reducing the incidence of abortion (when not for medical reasons) is desirable; but it should be primarily by reducing ignorance (genuine or deliberate), poverty, substance abuse and cultural schizophrenia (Don't do 'It,' but be a sexy hottie who

RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America Jeffrey Miller wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/books/01/13/1421/index.html

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This? Dan M. And this is why the debate is going nowhere : sides don't even agree on what they're arguing about.

RE: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:29 13-01-2003 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Go ahead and believe that if you want to. The fact that you guys won't admit just how remarkable this President is may be the single most valuable weapon in his arsenal. Oh, he's a remarkable president alright -- but not for the reasons people

RE: Alpha Mails

2003-01-14 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:57 14-01-2003 -0600, John Horn wrote: From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] +--+--+ | pseudonym| count(*) | +--+--+ snip Something about

Re: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 13:18 14-01-2003 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: This is a very good time to point out a language difference, because it is critical. The common US word for what you went through is a miscarriage, not an abortion. I must disagree with you. I don't know how these terms are defined in the US

Re: Abortion (Was: RE: More on North Korea)

2003-01-14 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:26 14-01-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Might I politely remind you both that your debating this topic adversely affects the list? You are never, ever going to see eye to eye and most desperately need to recognize that and move on. Which is exactly why I am not going to spend any more

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 14 Jan 2003 at 14:36, Dan Minette wrote: Dan M. And this is why the debate is going nowhere : sides don't even agree on what they're arguing about. This particular point I think can be resolved factually. A fetus/embreyo is not the same organism as the mother. It is within the

rfid

2003-01-14 Thread The Fool
http://news.com.com/2010-1069-980325.html Could we be constantly tracked through our clothes, shoes or even our cash in the future? I'm not talking about having a microchip surgically implanted beneath your skin, which is what of Palm Beach, Fla., would like to do. Nor am I talking about John

Re: rfid

2003-01-14 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 14 Jan 2003 at 15:30, The Fool wrote: http://news.com.com/2010-1069-980325.html I can think of a half-dozen ways to kill them right off. Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Alpha Mails

2003-01-14 Thread Horn, John
From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is this significantly different than posting the subscriber list to the list? I doubt that Nick is going to remove himself from his list-admin position for this... Well, that's certainly not what I was suggesting. I'll bet Nick didn't

RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Andrew Crystall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This? On 14 Jan 2003 at 14:36, Dan Minette wrote: Dan M. And this is why the debate is going

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-14 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:19 10-01-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: Anybody who has used remarkably different addresses over the years, please feel free to advise me. Jeroen, do you have some mappings that you use? We should compare our data. I am not going to share any data with you. I have neither forgotten

Re: Abortion (Was: RE: More on North Korea)

2003-01-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Abortion (Was: RE: More on North Korea) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:19:14 +0100 At 14:26 14-01-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Might I politely remind you both that your debating this topic

RE: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-14 Thread Horn, John
From: The Fool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is there a utility out there for Win2K (or is there something build in) that will save the look of your desktop and restore it when it gets screwed up. If you can find it try saving a copy of the file desktop.ini . Doesn't look like that

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:39 PM Subject: RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This? No flames. I think you point out (correctly) that much of this is a religious debate clothed as secular morality.

RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 02:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This? - Original Message - From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 01:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America William T Goodall wrote: So does that mean that the US Moon landings might end up

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:00 PM 1/14/2003 +, you wrote: JDG wrote: Subject: Late Term Kansas Abortionist to Perform Free Abortions Source: Lawrence Journal World January 13, 2003 Late Term Kansas Abortionist to Perform Free Abortions No, I don't feel offended at all. If abortion is legal, why not do a

Re: Desktop Icon Utility

2003-01-14 Thread The Fool
From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is there a utility out there for Win2K (or is there something build in) that will save the look of your desktop and restore it when it gets screwed up. If you can find it try saving a copy of the

Definition of Abortion and what is not abortion

2003-01-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dan Minette wrote: This is a very good time to point out a language difference, because it is critical. The common US word for what you went through is a miscarriage, not an abortion. In Portuguese, it's called what translates to interruption of pregnancy. It was done for two of my three

RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:26:30 -0800 -Original Message- From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 01:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread The Fool
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] No flames. I think you point out (correctly) that much of this is a religious debate clothed as secular morality. What is secular morality in your view? Do human rights exist, or just political rights? Only

RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 02:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America A few months ago ex-Brinneller (...at least I think he's no longer here...) Adrian Hon

RE: Definition of Abortion and what is not abortion

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 02:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Definition of Abortion and what is not abortion Dan Minette wrote: This is a very good time to point out a language difference,

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This? From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] No flames. I think you point out

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Richard Baker
Jon said: It's enough to make you wonder how many people receive their science education from the National Enquirer. None, that's how many. Don't you know that America and all its artifacts are part of a gigantic hoax and anyone who claims otherwise is either a dupe or an actor? It's all

SciFI, Origami and Brin-L

2003-01-14 Thread Sean Kane
Just saw this... http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue299/site.html It's the SciFi.com site of the week. This week it's Star Wars Origami. The reviewer was particularly taken with the Darth Vader creation by one Eileen Tan. Who ever knew a simple sheet of black paper could be so scary?!? You have

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/14/2003 1:10:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to Mention Legends of an Irishman Maru Irishman? Maddog was Welsh! Gawd I shoulda kept my moth shut. My gosh look at what a one line silly can lead too. Swiss. Let's talk about the Swiss. Yup,

RE: Alpha Mails

2003-01-14 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Horn, John Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:36 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Alpha Mails From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Is this significantly different than

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread The Fool
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] No flames. I think you point out (correctly) that much of this is a religious debate clothed as secular morality. What is

Re: SciFI, Origami and Brin-L

2003-01-14 Thread The Fool
From: Sean Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just saw this... http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue299/site.html It's the SciFi.com site of the week. This week it's Star Wars Origami. The reviewer was particularly taken with the Darth Vader creation by one Eileen Tan. Who ever knew a simple sheet of

RE: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 03:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America In a message dated 1/14/2003 1:10:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-14 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) At 19:19 10-01-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: Anybody who has used

Re: Scouted: The Cyborger

2003-01-14 Thread Sean Kane
S.E.A.N. - Synthetic Electronic Assassination Neohuman K.A.N.E. - Knight Assembled for Nocturnal Exploration I hope that last name doesn't mean I'm supposed to be doing my research at night ;-) -- ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Definition of Abortion and what is not abortion

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: RE: Definition of Abortion and what is not abortion -Original Message- From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday,

Paul Harvey story: Autonomous Navigation

2003-01-14 Thread Medievalbk
Yesterday, I sold my copy of: Intelligent Unmanned Vehicles, Autonomous Navigation Research at Carnegie Mellon. Priority to southern California. Published at $185.00, sold at $58, my cash value to purchase $6. [Wish I could do that more often.] Today on Paul Harvey I caught most of a story

Re: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-14 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:25 PM Subject: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk Sent:

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 1/14/2003 4:26:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irishman? Maddog was Welsh! If you mean Maddoc he was Welsh, not Irish. Maddog was a nickname corruption. Brave His Soul, I think is the name of the book easiest to find about him and the Welsh

RE: rfid

2003-01-14 Thread Gary L. Nunn
I can think of a half-dozen ways to kill them right off. Andy Do tell. Maybe that will be the next big business. Gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Orson Scott Card on Korea

2003-01-14 Thread Gautam Mukunda
Card's not right about everything (he overstates the importance of the China situation, imo, and understates the extent to which the Administration seems to have been purposely putting the North Koreans into a corner to force them to give up their nuclear weapons program), but it's a pretty good

Re: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea)

2003-01-14 Thread Deborah Harrell
I wrote: My view on child abusers has also been outlined previously, and is severe to the point of capital punishment... I should, of course, have noted that there is a range of abuse; the example I mentioned is on the severest end of punishment, but there are young/inexperienced

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:25:03 -0800 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

guilty until proven innocent in Louisiana

2003-01-14 Thread The Fool
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030114-73728234.htm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: guilty until proven innocent in Louisiana

2003-01-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: guilty until proven innocent in Louisiana Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:11:55 -0600 http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030114-73728234.htm ___ Arrgh! Do

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-14 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Gabriel ... Nick, how exactly do you hold a copyright on your posts to the list? As a public net forum, I would think that copyrights don't apply here? In any Berne Convention country, an

Re: Child abuse (was: More on North Korea)

2003-01-14 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't plan on writing on abortion. But, this post was so stident, I felt I had to. :( I didn't plan on writing about it either, but when an issue I see as dreadfully complex (and no happy ending) is repeatedly placed in purely Black and White

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irishman? Maddog was Welsh! If you mean Maddoc he was Welsh, not Irish. Maddog was a nickname corruption. Brave His Soul, I think is the name of the book easiest to find about him and the Welsh speaking Indians. More

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jon wrote: Nick, how exactly do you hold a copyright on your posts to the list? As a public net forum, I would think that copyrights don't apply here? Nick replied: In any Berne Convention country, an author/creator automatically has copyright in any work that is (1) original, (2) creative

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: It seems to me that there can be no solution to this dilemma until we can garantee that no woman has to live 9 months of pregnancy against her will, while on the other hand preserving the unborn's life. I'd like to see the pro-life and pro-choice activists pour

Re: Definition of Abortion and what is not abortion

2003-01-14 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:39 PM 1/14/2003 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not quite, as the definition of where in the process life begins is the lynch pin of the whole damn argument. I would say that abortion is when pregnency is terminated conciously

Medical Terminology in USA (was: Re: More on North Korea)

2003-01-14 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- J. van Baardwijk wrote: snip over here a miscarriage is a premature termination of a pregnancy that happens spontaneously (that is, without medical intervention), while an abortion is a premature termination of a pregnancy through medical intervention. That is correct. Alberto

Uplift (was RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?)

2003-01-14 Thread Jim Sharkey
Miller, Jeffrey wrote: You win. Let's talk about uplift :) Okay. I personally think that Earthclan should grant the Kiqui to their Kanten allies for Uplift. Opinions? :) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal

Re: Latest pre-Columbus exploration of America

2003-01-14 Thread Deborah Harrell
I wrote: Ghalad Or Galad - Etymologically 'Bright' Maru I think that should have been Galadh Or... Where's my Tolkien dictionary when I need it? :) Quenyanaly Challenged Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up

RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread Robert J. Chassell
A few years ago, I look into the reported statistics of abortion. The reported statistics are not very accurate, but are interesting. Excluding the 1/3 or so of conceptions that are `aborted by God' (i.e., are still births, often not noticed by the mothers, and to say that God is omnipotient is

RE: Alpha Mails (fun with SQL - L3ish)

2003-01-14 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jon Gabriel wrote: This list is often sadly fascinating. Or fascinatingly sad. I can't decide which. ;-) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___

Re: More on North Korea

2003-01-14 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: Re: More on North Korea At 13:18 14-01-2003 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: This is a very good time to point out a language difference, because it is

Relgion Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 04:56 PM 1/14/2003 -0600 The Fool wrote: It wasn't so long ago that genocide and human sacrifices was 'the will of god'. Judges 11:30-40: We have: Murder/human (Virgin) sacrifice, ancestor appeasement, and this is the will of god. Ummm the book of Judges is about 5,000 years old. Is this

Re: Uplift (was RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?)

2003-01-14 Thread Russell Chapman
Jim Sharkey wrote: Okay. I personally think that Earthclan should grant the Kiqui to their Kanten allies for Uplift. Opinions? :) Jim If we're gonna grant favours (and a client race is a pretty big favour), we need to be doing it with more powerful allies. Someone who is going to make a

Re: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:19 AM 1/14/2003 -0500 David Hobby wrote: Trolling again, are we? : ) Ahem. Uhhh. no.Is Doug trolling everytime he posts a criticism of George Bush? I was simply seeing if one of the numerous pro-choice denizens of this List, who frequently claim that abortion is a deeply

RE: Is Anyone Else Offended By This?

2003-01-14 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:09 PM 1/14/2003 -0500 Damon wrote: I am shocked to see that you apparently believe that women would get an abortion simply because they can get it for free. Really John, making such a decision is a hell of a lot harder than that. I think that it is a basic truism that when a service becomes

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