Re: [ccp4bb] anomalous scattering server down?

2013-06-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
from iron. -James Holton MAD Scientist On 6/2/2013 8:47 AM, Edward A. Berry wrote: Is Ethan Merritt's anomalous scattering page at: http://www.bmsc.washington.edu/scatter/ down or moved, or the firewall I'm behind is blocking it? I want to check feasibility of a native-iron MAD experiment

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: Re: [ccp4bb] reference for true multiplicity?

2013-05-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
The idea of RAID (redundant array of inexpensive disks) must seem pretty silly to the Brits- disks may be inexpensive but they're not free- why waste money on a redundant system? Ethan Merritt wrote: On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 01:58:06 pm Colin Nave wrote: The use of the term redundancy (real

Re: [ccp4bb] refinement hanging--what am I missing?

2013-04-29 Thread Edward A. Berry
herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: I would process or expand the data to P1, also expand your pdb file to P1 and refine in P1 to see what happens. I would also run Phaser or some other molecular replacement program on the P1 data to see what comes out. process or expand? I don't understand

Re: [ccp4bb] STRAP secondary structure

2013-04-27 Thread Edward A. Berry
Hope you already finished your presentation, but if not here is anther way. You don't mention whether you have predicted secondary structure or you want to base it on actual structure for one or more of the sequences. If the latter, CCP4's procheck makes such a cartoon in its postscript pages,

Re: [ccp4bb] Difficult data

2013-04-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
Yes- this has happened to us so often recently that I've taken to checking every new crystal form against the nearest cell server before starting heavy atom search. That would account for the poor reproducibility. Yeast glutamate-cysteine ligase (e.g. 3LVV) crystallizes with nearly identical

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
Robbie Joosten wrote: Hi Martyn, I think the question is where the error was made - seeing the uploaded file would clear this up. But it seems unlikely to me that the depositor saw a huge R factor discrepancy at the end of refinement and just blithely uploaded it. So scenario 3 :- PDB : we

Re: [ccp4bb] Philosophical question

2013-03-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
Opher Gileadi wrote: Hi Theresa, To add to Anat's comments: Although the AUG codon for the first methionine and all other methionines in a protein coding sequence look the same, they are read in a very different way by the ribosomal machinery. The first AUG is recognized by the initiation

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
Maybe this thread still needs some more pedagogy/explanation for those newbies and for biologist/ wanna-be crystallographers like me. My original reaction was- if the true space group is P21 you wouldn't want to expand from data reduced in higher symmetry, because you would be enforcing that

Re: [ccp4bb] Philosophical question

2013-03-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
want to start translation if there isn't ample resources to finish the job. Perhaps Met concentration is a proxy for anabolic potential of the cell? Or at least was primordially and QWERTY'd in? /wild speculation Shane Caldwell McGill University On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Edward

Re: [ccp4bb] Most Abundant Eukaryotic Membrane Protein List?

2013-03-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
In the mitocondrial inner membrane (which is very protein-dense) I believe the most abundant protein is the adenine nucleotide transporter. (e.g. pdb1OKC). Single chain or homodimer, but apparently its not very easy to crystallize. Jacob Keller wrote: Dear List, Does anyone know of a source

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
Or give it to arp/warp, either with the current model to improve or with phases from the current model to build new model? Phoebe A. Rice wrote: What happens if you solvent-flatten/flip/massage that map, but tell the software the solvent content much lower than what you think it is now? Maybe

Re: [ccp4bb] how to make protein topology figure based on its structure

2013-03-10 Thread Edward A. Berry
and redundant email. A. On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote: Still, I would second Lisa's question. Your google search gives a lot of false hits, and one doesn't want to download and install a dozen programs

Re: [ccp4bb] how to make protein topology figure based on its structure

2013-03-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
Still, I would second Lisa's question. Your google search gives a lot of false hits, and one doesn't want to download and install a dozen programs (with license forms to fill out in some cases) to see which one works, when Partha can tell us that Pro-origami will do it and provide a link to the

Re: [ccp4bb] xplot84driver in CentOS 5

2013-03-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
try cheating by something like: ln -s /usr/lib64/libXaw.so.7 /usr/lib64/libXaw.so.8 ? [berry@sbserv ~]$ ldd `which xplot84driver` linux-vdso.so.1 = (0x7fffb936) libXaw.so.8 = /usr/lib64/libXaw.so.8 (0x003f8600) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib64/libXmu.so.6

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
Raji Edayathumangalam wrote: (3) Inconclusive no diffraction situation, which could indicate a million things including the possibility that your cryoprotectant was sub-optimal for data collection done using flash cryocooled/flash frozen crystals in a stream of gaseous nitrogen. But before

Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD Citation

2013-01-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
Maybe a silly question, but - Is this standard deviation of bond lengths that of each bond type in the Eng and Huber paper, or the standard deviations in the structure being validated? Robbie Joosten wrote: Note that we discuss rmsZ values in the paper, not rmsd. This is done on purpose; rmsd

Re: [ccp4bb] relationship between resolution and B values

2013-01-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
Nat Echols wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Qixu Caicaiq...@gmail.com wrote: Could you please teach me any method to present the relationship between resolution and B values of all the x-ray structures in Protein Data Bank. Can the PDB statistics in RCSB do it? Perhaps, and I'm pretty

Re: [ccp4bb] Golden Jubilee of Ramachandran Plot

2013-01-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/timeline And this paper describes their use of a digital computer as if it were rather routine: Sternberg, J., Stillo, H. Schwendeman, R. (1960). Spectrophotometric Analysis of Multicomponent Systems Using the Least Squares Method in Matrix Form.

Re: [ccp4bb] Golden Jubilee of Ramachandran Plot

2013-01-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
Edward A. Berry wrote: http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/timeline And this paper describes their use of a digital computer as if it were rather routine: Sternberg, J., Stillo, H. Schwendeman, R. (1960). Spectrophotometric Analysis of Multicomponent Systems Using the Least Squares

Re: [ccp4bb] side question re crystal dehydration

2013-01-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
I think one may need to distinguish between three different kinds of dehydration experiment, because of the different forces they will exert on a crystal to shrink the unit cell, creating new stabilizing crystal contacts or perhaps causing contacts to fail in a chaotic manner, disordering the

Re: [ccp4bb] About NCS and inhibitors

2013-01-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
But I think the original poster meant partially overlapped after applying the ncs- operator- i.e. they are not ncs related but occupy partly the same position (in the two non-overlapping copies of the binding site). Then I guess it depends how clear the density is- If the density is not very

Re: [ccp4bb] About NCS and inhibitors

2013-01-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
: bshaa...@bgu.ac.il Phone: 972-8-647-2220 Skype: boaz.shaanan Fax: 972-8-647-2992 or 972-8-646-1710 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Edward A. Berry [ber...@upstate.edu] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 6:12 PM To: CCP4BB

Re: [ccp4bb] Today ...

2012-12-20 Thread Edward A. Berry
No, No- in scientific circles we go from MSB on the left to LSB on the right: 2012 12 20 (still a sort of palindrome). as in Release: 2012-12-19 Classification: Lipid Transport Experiment: SOLUTION NMR Residue Count: 216 but right to left can be used if there is no

Re: [ccp4bb] refining against weak data and Table I stats

2012-12-13 Thread Edward A. Berry
to mis-represent the resolution of the structure. Regards, Mitch -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Edward A. Berry Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:43 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refining against weak data

Re: [ccp4bb] Inconsistency in Cell Dimensions - replacing old:

2012-12-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
file. The message can be eliminated in the way I suggested by inserted a CALL XYZINIT before the call to RBFRO1 in almn.f . Cheers -- Ian On 10 December 2012 21:47, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote: I am experimenting with ALMN cross-rotation using some old

[ccp4bb] Inconsistency in Cell Dimensions - replacing old:

2012-12-10 Thread Edward A. Berry
I am experimenting with ALMN cross-rotation using some old known structures. I was surprised to see what seems to be a requirement for the cell dimensions of the two crystals to be the same. Is that the case? Excerpts from the log follow. eab Data line--- CROSS 5 30 . .. OPENED INPUT MTZ FILE

Re: [ccp4bb] Pseudo translational symmetry Problem or Wrong Spacegroup

2012-12-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
Does this mean that, when placing the first (or only) copy of a model, the score will not be elevated by presence of tNCS (Unless the model contains domains separated by more or less exactly the distance of the tNCS vector)? (In general, using a generic MR program that does not correct for TNS.)

Re: [ccp4bb] refining against weak data and Table I stats

2012-12-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
Yes, well, actually i'm only a middle author on that paper for a good reason, but I did encourage Rebecca and Stephan to use all the data. But on a later, much more modest submission, where the outer shell was not only weak but very incomplete (edges of the detector), the reviewers found it

Re: [ccp4bb] refining against weak data and Table I stats

2012-12-06 Thread Edward A. Berry
Another consideration here is your PDB deposition. If the reason for using weak data is to get a better structure, presumably you are going to deposit the structure using all the data. Then the statistics in the PDB file must reflect the high resolution refinement. There are I think three places

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density

2012-11-28 Thread Edward A. Berry
Without F000 we cannot get absolute density level vs zero, but still I think electron density in units of e-/a^3 above the mean is much more meaningful than sigma above the mean. I think the last one of these mystery density questions generated a lot of discussion until someone pointed out that

Re: [ccp4bb] aligning structure and generating symetry mates

2012-10-28 Thread Edward A. Berry
Appu kumar wrote: Dear all, Please guide me on right track in weired confusion. I have model structure(available in pdb) and a structure solved by molecular replacement as a dimer . Our structure does not giving correct tetramer by symmetry mates. Strangely when i am

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo conditions

2012-10-17 Thread Edward A. Berry
Thanks to all for the suggestions! We will try, this weekend at macCHESS, all those conditions for which we have reagents, and order the others now. On Oct 16, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Edward A. Berryber...@upstate.edu wrote: Would someone suggest a cryoprotectant for index screen #59? It contains

[ccp4bb] cryo conditions

2012-10-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
Would someone suggest a cryoprotectant for index screen #59? It contains 0.02 M MgCl2 0.1 M HEPES pH 7.5 22% polyacrylic acid 5100, Na salt Adding glycerol tends to dissolve the crystals. Thanks, Ed

Re: [ccp4bb] Help Please!

2012-09-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Not to worry- since you carefully preerved the original files, you can easlily recover. You just need to boot a live CD like DSL or fdora live (or maybe even Tom's Root Boot disk) to bring up a system that can mount your filesystem and allow you to undue the failed experiment. Recent fedora live

Re: [ccp4bb] loading maps in coot using EDS

2012-08-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
Shya Biswas wrote: Hi, Thanks, I think the problem is with the EDS server as I tried numerous pdb files (not just the 3TVN) and none of them worked so far. Shya I suppose that when the first message in this thread came out yesterday morning, it was a signal for hundreds of thousands of WW

Re: [ccp4bb] CC1/2, XDS and resolution cut off

2012-08-06 Thread Edward A. Berry
Ian Tickle wrote: below the noise threshold. This does make the tacit assumption that the unmeasured reflections are distributed randomly in reciprocal space, which is clearly not entirely true, but it's hard to see how one could account for the non-random distribution. Again, in any case

Re: [ccp4bb] CC1/2, XDS and resolution cut off

2012-08-06 Thread Edward A. Berry
Oh - you meant how one could take nonrandom distrubution into account in the analysis- funny how I always understand what someone meant after i push send on an inappropriate reply Edward A. Berry wrote: Ian Tickle wrote: below the noise threshold. This does make the tacit assumption

Re: [ccp4bb] Space group R32 and H32

2012-07-28 Thread Edward A. Berry
Are all the software packages consistent in their (mis)use of these symbols? Recently I scaled data (scalepack) as R3, imported to ccp4 as H3, and had to make a link in $ODAT/symm from R32 to H32 (which it turned out to be). Ian Tickle wrote: If we're all agreed that ITC(A) is taken as the

Re: [ccp4bb] Ferredoxin Containing Crystal Bleaching

2012-07-20 Thread Edward A. Berry
Iron sulfur proteins tend to absorb less (although not zero) in the visible when reduced. We see this with succinate dehydrogenase when we reduce with dithionite to see the heme spectrum- the difference extinction coefficient at the beta peak is actually negative because the baseline absorbance

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
narayan viswam wrote: Hello CCP4ers, In my data, the highest reolution shell 2.8-3.0 A has I/sigmaI 2.5 Rsym 224.3 % for multiplicity 7.8 and completeness 98.2 %. I solved the structure by MAD refined it to Rfree 27.3 %. Ths crystal belongs to P622 space group and it is not twinned. The

Re: [ccp4bb] harvesting in cold room

2012-07-13 Thread Edward A. Berry
How low does O2 have to get to be dangerous? To reduce the oxygen concentration by a factor of two, you would have to mix equal volumes of air and nitrogen. Now since the nitrogen is coming off at about 70K, assuming equal heat capacity for N2 and 80% N2, the temperature of that mixture would

Re: [ccp4bb] One little clash

2012-07-12 Thread Edward A. Berry
googling dityrosine suggests thaey can be formed by osidation by Cu or Ni ions. In structures of cytochrome oxidase, Tyrosine forms a covalent bond from the same meta carbon to NE2 of a histidine. see Fig 1 of: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/280/5370/1723.long And histidine is ligating a

Re: [ccp4bb] FE-Sulfur proteins

2012-07-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
Good to know about this ISC operon! Do you know if it is specific for Rieske-type His2/Cys2 Fe2S2 clusters, or for FeS clusters in general? Thus wild-type E. coli is already making three types of ISC clusters for succinate dehydrogenase or fumarate reductase (although some help might be needed

Re: [ccp4bb] Requesting old data sets

2012-07-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
Bosch, Juergen wrote: Dear CCP4 community, what's the general opinion regarding sharing old published data sets ? Would you be offended if I asked you for your raw images from say a 5-10 year old structure ? And then the more tricky question, what if I find something you overlooked and I would

Re: [ccp4bb] relative intensity of ice rings

2012-06-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
Maybe figure 4 in Viatcheslav Berejnov et al.  Vitrification of aqueous solutions J. Appl. Cryst. (2006). 39, 244–251 ? JORGE IULEK wrote: Hi, all, I thought I could easily find a reference to comment upon the relative intensity of rings in an image due to diffraction by polycrystal

Re: [ccp4bb] do you think it is interesting?

2012-06-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
Sorry to come late to this discussion- I think the actin and tubulin people already reverted polymer to its etymological use- google actin polymerization Another example of infinite polymers formed by domain swapping (and the surprises you can get trying to engineer a molecular switch):

Re: [ccp4bb] Death of Rmerge

2012-05-31 Thread Edward A. Berry
Yes! I want a copy of this program RESCUT. REMARK 200 R SYM FOR SHELL(I) : 1.21700 I noticed structure 3RKO reported Rmerge in the last shell greater than 1, suggesting the police who were defending R-merge were fighting a losing battle. And this provides a lot of ammunition to

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Death of Rmerge

2012-05-31 Thread Edward A. Berry
In the meantime we could follow Phoebe Rice's example and put the resolution at I/sigma=2 in REMARK 2 resolution of structure but put the actual bleeding-edge resolution we used in the reduction and refinement statistics (At least if the PDB will allow us to have different values in these three

Re: [ccp4bb] Death of Rmerge

2012-05-31 Thread Edward A. Berry
-- From: Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:59 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Death of Rmerge Yes! I want a copy of this program RESCUT. REMARK 200 R SYM FOR SHELL (I) : 1.21700 I noticed structure

Re: [ccp4bb] to determine missing atoms and residues in a PDB file

2012-05-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
sreetama das wrote: Dear All, I have a PDB file which does not have the REMARKS cards 465 (for missing residues) and 470 (for missing atoms). This is not a deposited PDB file. Is there any program to figure out the missing residues and atoms (some programs complain about missing atoms) ? Or

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
Jacob Keller wrote: Just to make sure I understand pH correctly: isn't it true that the [OH-] should always be the same at a given pH (by definition)? Maybe not by definition but by equilibration with [H+] to make water: [H][OH]/[H2O] = Kw [OH] = Kw[H2O]/[H] if [W]

Re: [ccp4bb] Powder Rings in Single Crystals

2012-05-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
A protein would only scatter but not diffract or Diffract but not scatter? isn't diffraction a kind of scattering? But yes, the atoms in the unit cell may seem random in that distance range (in fact this is assumed in wilson scattering) but in a perfect crystal they will be the same in each

Re: [ccp4bb] effective iodide conc. for SAD data

2012-05-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
Did you locate the Iodine(s)? Did you have iodotyrosine, or I^- bound at anion binding sites? There are two distinct methods based on I2/I-. Florian Sauer wrote: Dear Rajesh, another method to incorporate Iodine into your crystal is by simply placing a drop of KI/I2 solution next to the

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution on PDB web page

2012-04-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
We also use the US portal. Can't speak to the solvent content as we never had a value much over 70%. As for the resolution range, I never saw any place to enter this user-defined resolution of the structure. As far as i know it comes from the record: REMARK 200 RESOLUTION RANGE HIGH (A) :

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: Supplying PDB file to reviewers

2012-04-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
Bosch, Juergen wrote: To pick a bit on George's point with MR citation. Here's how you can read it in the paper from your favourite competitor: A homology model was generated using [fill in any program for ab initio prediction] and subsequently used for molecular replacement with Molrep. The

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement

2012-04-17 Thread Edward A. Berry
I would say yes. In any case you need to examine each mutated residue to be sure the correct conformation is chosen, so you might as well do the mutagenesis in coot or O. The ccp4 chainsaw program is sometimes used to prepare models for MR, but it truncates the mutated residues to variable

Re: [ccp4bb] [cnsbb] MTZ label

2012-04-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
Dear Sunil, I think you can do this with the ccp4i gui- In the category Reflection Data Utilities select Edit mtz file (sftools) One of the panels is Change column labels and types with options to edit labels or add new label. But Surprise, there are no labels in the list! This is because the

Re: [ccp4bb] Substitution to glycerol during crystallogenesis

2012-04-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
Florian Schmitzberger wrote: Dear Toby, I don't think there is a basic problem using glycerol in crystallization. Glycerol will affect the vapour pressure (if it is not present in the well/precipitant solution) and 10 % glycerol is ~ 1.3 molar concentration. During equilibration the drops may

Re: [ccp4bb] DDM

2012-03-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
If I recall correctly cytochrome oxidase, which I believe was the first protein purified with DDM, requires about 10x cmc in column buffers to keep it soluble. Check for papers from 1970's or 80's by S. Ferguson-Miller. Cytochrme bc1 complex, on the other hand, is perfectly clear in 1 cmc and

Re: [ccp4bb] How to reduce no. of overlaps

2012-03-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
Jim Pflugrath wrote: In addition to reducing the beam divergence, you may wish to use a smaller beam size by using a smaller collimator or making the slits smaller. A smaller crystal can also help to spatially separate the Bragg spots as can moving the detector closer to the crystal. Yes, closer

Re: [ccp4bb] On pKa of Aspartic acid

2012-02-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
Roger Rowlett wrote: No. Kw = [H3O+][OH-] = 1 x 10^-14 at 25 deg C. So at pH 7.0, you have 10^-7 M each at equilibrium no matter how you slice it or whatever else is in solution. If equilibrium [H3O+] goes up [OH-] goes down commensurately. The pKa of water as an acid is based on Kw and

Re: [ccp4bb] Freezing crystal

2012-02-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
Bosch, Juergen wrote: Hi Dirk, I remember a neat paper don't recall who wrote it. I think it was in Acta D where the authors made a tiny probe the size of an elongated crystal glued to a [/Advertisement on] Hampton loop [/Advertisement off]. The probe was a temperature sensor and they

Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity

2012-02-05 Thread Edward A. Berry
Deepak Thankappan Nair wrote: ~~~ Can anybody tell me a method to quantitate shape complementarity between two surfaces? Sc program in CCP4 is not running properly. thanks and regards Deepak I think SC is THE way to calculate it. If not working in the current release, we should get it fixed.

Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity

2012-02-05 Thread Edward A. Berry
Deepak Thankappan Nair wrote: Dear Dr. Berry thanks for the mail. maybe the syntax that I provide is not correct. i assume you have to write MOLECULE1 CHAIN A to define the first surface but i get the following error: MOLECULE1 CHAIN A No molecule number given BFONT

Re: [ccp4bb] 10 mM Na Acetate buffer preparation

2012-02-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
megha goyal wrote: Our recombinant product is formulated in 10 mM sodium acetate buffer at pH 4.0 and the std composition mentions sodium 0.035 mg and acetate 0.59 mg per ml of sample. It mentions Sodium acetate is formed by titrating glacial acetic acid with sodium hydroxide. Can anyone

[ccp4bb] chemical state of trimethyl lead in the crystal

2012-01-20 Thread Edward A. Berry
Does trimethyl lead tend to lose the Me in aqueous buffers? A colleague is preparing to deposit a 2.9A structure that was refined against the TML derivative (higher resolution than native). Since the Pb was added as trimethyllead, the first inclination is to report the heavy atoms as TML, ligand

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: His-tag purification

2012-01-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
Maybe the His Tag is blocked by the folded protein. Try using 6M Guanidine-HCL and see if it sticks. Then you will need to find some way of refolding your protein, if you want to crystallize it. Theresa H. Hsu wrote: Hi all I have a His-tagged soluble protein (8 His residues added to 90 kDa

Re: [ccp4bb] Help me install O on ubuntu11.10

2011-12-28 Thread Edward A. Berry
It seems some 32-bit libraries need to be installed to get recent versions of O to run on 64 bit architecture. There is a 64-bit version undergoing testing now, so you might want to just wait for it. or volunteer to be a tester. Subscribe to o-info mailing list (at the below site) to keep up with

Re: [ccp4bb] Calibration question

2011-12-12 Thread Edward A. Berry
I suppose you mean the pipetman and similar, and having it calibrated by a professional rather than pipetting into a weighing boat to see if it is OK- Unless i'm missing something, there is very little that can be done in the way of calibration- the diameter of the stainless steel shaft and the

Re: [ccp4bb] model building at 3.2 A

2011-12-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
Hmm- I wonder if B-factor unsharpening (applying a large POSITIVE B-factor to the data) would have the same effect? Francis E Reyes wrote: On the other hand, shooting a lower resolution crystal may get you the conformation of the disordered domain. Surprising at first thought, but was true

Re: [ccp4bb] Superpositions: Deviation by Residue

2011-11-28 Thread Edward A. Berry
The program: http://sb20.lbl.gov/berry/for/pdbdist2b.for does this. If you run it by the wrapper pdbd2b: echo 'Find distances greater than threshold between corresponding atoms in 2 PDB files' echo 'Usage: pdbd2b file1 file2 startres# [thresh]' pdbdist2b eof $1 $2 $3 1 $3 $4 3.0 eof then

Re: [ccp4bb] [CCP4] identify a rotation centre: domain rotation

2011-11-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
No! the divide by 2 part is for a 2-fold rotation- not 8*. Sorry, and hope the O.P. didn't waste any time trying to implement this. Edward A. Berry wrote: Would this work? Take the rot-trans operator from superpose or lsqman and express the rotation matrix as polar coordinates of rotation axis

Re: [ccp4bb] [CCP4] identify a rotation centre: domain rotation

2011-11-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
Would this work? Take the rot-trans operator from superpose or lsqman and express the rotation matrix as polar coordinates of rotation axis (and angle about it). Get the rotation axis as direction cosines, which will be a vector along the rotation axis of the matrix. Now take the component of the

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein-Protein Complex Screening

2011-11-17 Thread Edward A. Berry
Ho Leung Ng wrote: There is at least one paper describing the success of PEG precipitants for complexes, but I can't find the reference right now. Is this it? http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?S0021889802013973 J. Appl. Cryst. (2002). 35, 674-676[ doi:10.1107/S0021889802013973 ]

Re: [ccp4bb] Archiving Images for PDB Depositions

2011-11-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
Gerard Bricogne wrote: . . . . the view, expressed by many and just now supported by George, that developers could perfectly well do their job on the basis of relatively small collections of test datasets that they could assemble through their own connections or initiative. I mostly agree with

[ccp4bb] newbie question about data processing

2011-10-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
I integrated data with mosflm using the lowest symmetry implied by the lattice- P4. Scaling with scala confirms that symmetry. Now I want to test P422, but scala doesn't seem to have a SYMM or SPACE GROUP keyword. I'm sure there is an obvious way to do this, which everyone else knows, but i don't

Re: [ccp4bb] newbie question about data processing

2011-10-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Thanks! That does it. Harry wrote: Hi Ed reindex is your friend here - reindex hklin jumbo.mtz hklout dumbo.mtz eof symm p422 eof should do it. On 18 Oct 2011, at 22:18, Edward A. Berry wrote: I integrated data with mosflm using the lowest symmetry implied by the lattice- P4. Scaling

Re: [ccp4bb] should the final model be refined against full datset

2011-10-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
Now it would be interesting to refine this structure to convergence, with the original free set. If I understood correctly Ian Tickle has done essentially this, and the Free R returns essentially to its original value: the minimum arrived at is independent of starting point, perhaps within

Re: [ccp4bb] Ice rings... [maps and missing reflections]

2011-10-12 Thread Edward A. Berry
Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/11/2011 09:58 PM, Ethan Merritt wrote: On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:33:09 pm Garib N Murshudov wrote: In the limit yes. however limit is when we do not have solution, i.e. when model errors are very large. In the

Re: [ccp4bb] Ice rings...

2011-10-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
If the ice rings are really sharp, they trigger the bad background rejection in denzo/HKL2000. To reject more spots, increase the reject fraction 0.7 parameter to something greater than .7. This rejection is on a spot by spot basis, so spots with good background between the rings should not be

Re: [ccp4bb] detect dsDNA

2011-10-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
Jacob Keller wrote: I actually looked at an EtBr MSDS a while ago, and was shocked at how benign it was. I also heard from someone that they used to feed it to Argentinian cows routinely a few years back... Wikipedia says it was used as a trypanosomacidal - It's being discontinued not because

Re: [ccp4bb] Bicarb at low pH

2011-10-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
Jacob Keller wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I would like to soak my crystals in bicarbonate (a possible substrate), but the crystals have grown--and only grow--in pH 5.2-6.0, so the bicarb/CO2 will just keep evolving out of the solution and reliquishing its hydroxyls until the pH is elevated

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran plot difference between Coot and Morprobity (or Phenix)

2011-09-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
What does ProCheck say? Xiaopeng Hu wrote: Dear all, I just notified that there is a big difference between the Ramachandran plot analysis results produced by Coot and Morprobity (or Phenix). For the structure I am working now, Phenix(Morprobity) gives out Ramachandran outliers 0.2%,

Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture) which, however are not seen in the windows notepad. What application ARE the extra lines seen in? Sounds like a problem with different newline conventions- CR vs LF vs CRLF - although I shouldn't have thought extra carriage

Re: [ccp4bb] UV imaging of crystals

2011-09-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
A real UV microscope requires quartz optics, right? Probably conventional microscopes use glass. And you can't see 280 nm (and its not good for your eyes) so you need some kind of phosphor screen to view the image? Bosch, Juergen wrote: I'm replying here to myself :-) So in an off-board

Re: [ccp4bb] reindexing monoclinic data

2011-08-27 Thread Edward A. Berry
Gregory Bowman wrote: Yes, but I don't actually want to swap a and c (convention that a is shorter than c), but instead flip k and keep h and l the same. Incidentally, it is not immediately obvious to me why in matrix I cited below that the new l is h+l: -1 0 0 0 -1 0 1 0 1 Greg Because -a

Re: [ccp4bb] reindexing monoclinic data

2011-08-27 Thread Edward A. Berry
Sorry for adding confusion- of course in reciprocal space beta* should be acute. The figures should have been labeled a, c not h,L. Edward A. Berry wrote: Gregory Bowman wrote: Yes, but I don't actually want to swap a and c (convention that a is shorter than c), but instead flip k and keep h

Re: [ccp4bb] reindexing monoclinic data

2011-08-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
Gregory Bowman wrote: Hi all, We have several primitive monoclinic datasets for the same protein with various ligands, with essentially the same unit cell parameters. We would like to have these with the molecules/density oriented the same way for easy comparison, but as chance would have

Re: [ccp4bb] Methods for dehydrating crystals

2011-08-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
Andrea L Edwards wrote: Hi all, What are the most successful methods you know of for dehydrating a crystal prior to freezing it? I am trying to push the resolution of my crystals. Thanks, Andrea First of all, be aware that not all crystals are improved by dehydration. Some need to be drier,

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
David Schuller wrote: On 08/23/11 15:01, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 12:36 -0600, Francis E Reyes wrote: Seems to be a quiet day on the BB So you need an earthquake :) Had one already, thanks. Apparently sent from the vicinity of U. Maryland and JHSPH, thanks.

Re: [ccp4bb] Sequence Alignment Question

2011-08-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Yuri wrote: Hello Everyone, A little off topic but, what is a good way to show (publication quality) multiple sequence alignment? I am trying to show conserved regions in related proteins from different organisms. Thank you -- Yuri Pompeu or clustalw, e.g.

Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of ccp4 on 64bit fedora core 13

2011-08-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
Edward A. Berry wrote: If you have trouble with TCL/TK read below-quoted message. Mosflm site has more suggestions. better yet: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/CCP4_on_Fedora_12 which says: Now Tcl/Tk tools are bundled with Fedora 12, and they work well for CCP4i

Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of ccp4 on 64bit fedora core 13

2011-08-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
and ccp4i work (as far as I have tested) Andreas On 09/08/2011 2:46, Edward A. Berry wrote: Edward A. Berry wrote: If you have trouble with TCL/TK read below-quoted message. Mosflm site has more suggestions. better yet: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php

Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of ccp4 on 64bit fedora core 13

2011-08-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
Edward A. Berry wrote: That does look easier, but mainly because you are not installing blt - What do you get for which bltwish? presumably in $CCP4I_TCLTK, since ccp4i works. So that means $CCP4_MASTER/tcltk++/bin But how did it get there? maybe from here? ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4/6.2.0

Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of ccp4 on 64bit fedora core 13

2011-08-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
유상헌 wrote: Dear all, First I’m a beginner of linux and I’m trying to install CCP4 on my 64bit Fedora 13. If there is anyone who successfully installed ccp4 on 64bit fedora13, please, instruct me how to install this program in detail. I recently installed CCP4-6.1.3 from source on

Re: [ccp4bb] Data from old tapes

2011-07-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
My exabyte eliant 8 mm tape just went on the blink, so I've sent it to Pacific Data (http://www.pacificdata.com/tape_drive.html) for repair. They also sell tape drives, but looks like mainly newer ones. Probably have some old ones from the repair business. Search ebay for exabyte or dat tape and

Re: [ccp4bb] Multi crystal averaging : data on same scale before averaging?

2011-07-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
If I recall correctly DATAMAN does Wilson scaling in which the scale and B-factor are adjusted so the average reflection intensity in resolution bins are the same. I suspect it may not be required if all the data have been put on an approximately absolute scale by e.g. truncate (although that

Re: [ccp4bb] generate large symmetry model

2011-06-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
Its obviously not going to be possible to give a unique chain letter for every chain in 27 cells, but forget renaminmg the chains and its very easy to generate the models to look at- might even do it in a triple-nested foreach loop in csh. After generating the whole cell as suggested by David or

Re: [ccp4bb] Kd's in Crystals

2011-06-24 Thread Edward A. Berry
Jacob Keller wrote: Dear Crystallographers, what is the dogma with regard to affinities in crystals? For example, if I soak three crystals in 1pM, 1nM, and 1uM compound X, and they all show equivalent density, does that mean that the affinity is really better than 1pM, or is the crystal of such

Re: [ccp4bb] Homology modelling

2011-06-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
I suspect what your colleague wants is not a whole slew of homology models, but for you to take a look at variable residues, see what they are doing in the structure, and make comments like The tyrosine is H-bonding the ligand, so mutating to phenylalanine may weaken the binding or change

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