Re: [ccp4bb] Linux Distro for setting up workstations - Is CentOS still a good choice?
Dear Tom Be aware that python2 is currently not supported. It is end-of-life since 1/1-2020 and is not part of Ubuntu 20.04 This might not be a big concern, bit depends on which software you use. Best regards Folmer lør. 20. feb. 2021 21.50 skrev Peat, Tom (Manufacturing, Parkville) : > Speaking of Linux, but somewhat tangential to the thread: > Ubuntu has recently released their newest version 20.04 (Focal Fossa). > Has anyone implemented this and is there anything that doesn't work? Any > gotchas that one might want to be aware of? > > Cheers, tom > > Tom Peat, PhD > Proteins Group > Biomedical Program, CSIRO > 343 Royal Parade > Parkville, VIC, 3052 > +613 9662 7304 > +614 57 539 419 > tom.p...@csiro.au > > -- > *From:* CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Tim Gruene > *Sent:* Sunday, February 21, 2021 2:35 AM > *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Linux Distro for setting up workstations - Is > CentOS still a good choice? > > Hi Matthias, > > I have been using Debian for more than a decade. Every stable release > is supported for at least 5 years. > Many crystallographic libraries and some programs are part of the > standard repository, like raster3d, pymol, shelxle, libccp4, > libclipper, ... > > Debian is particularly stable, and requires little maintenance. > > Cheers, > Tim > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 21:35:46 +0100 > Matthias Zeug wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I just came across the (already quite old) news that Red-Hat switches > > their support-policy for CentOS to a rolling preview model (replacing > > CentOS Linux by CentOS Stream): > > > > > https://www.zdnet.com/article/why-red-hat-dumped-centos-for-centos-stream/ > > > > > https://www.enterpriseai.news/2021/01/22/red-hats-disruption-of-centos-unlea > > shes-storm-of-dissent/ > > > > > > > > I wondered if that has any implications for the community, as > > scientific programs - maybe except the big ones like coot, Phenix, > > and ccp4 - are often not *that* well maintained for an extended > > period. I had the impression CentOS was liked especially for its > > "unbreakability," and it seems to be the main developing platform > > for some widely used smaller programs (e.g., adxv). > > > > > > > > Do you think it would be advisable to switch to a Ubuntu-distro when > > setting up new workstations in the future, or is it safe to stick to > > CentOS? > > > > > > > > Please let me know what you think :-) > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthias Zeug > > > > Buchmann Institute of Molecular Life Sciences > > > > Goethe University Frankfurt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > > > > This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a > > mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are > > available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ > > > > -- > -- > Tim Gruene > Head of the Centre for X-ray Structure Analysis > Faculty of Chemistry > University of Vienna > > Phone: +43-1-4277-70202 > > GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > > This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a > mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are > available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] coot is drawing the unit cell away from the modelled molecule
Aside from Paul's instructions on how to manually choose a different location from inside *Coot *perhaps using the http://achesym.ibch.poznan.pl/ server would be a good idea for setting a position on the molecule that should be more objective Hope this helps, Folmer man. 1. feb. 2021 14.51 skrev Paul Emsley : > On 01/02/2021 13:23, leo john wrote: > > > > > I am sure this issue might have addressed before, > > Correct. > > > but somehow I am not able to find it. > > That's because email is a terrible system for archiving structural biology > information. An that goes doubly > so for the Jiscmail archive. > > We should use something better. > > > After refinement when I open the structure in coot and draw the unit > cell, I find that the modeled molecule > > is not centered in the cell (unitcell.png) > > Please suggest me a way by which I can get the molecule centered. > > Centre (using middle mouse click) on an atom in the symmetry-related > molecule that you would actually like > to be the "main" molecule, then Calculate -> Modelling -> Symm Shift > Reference Chain Here. > > > I have a Bromo-phenylalanine in the sequence that I have modeled, but I > get the red and green density around > > Br atom (brphe.png). What can be the possible reason and how can I get > rid of it. > > Tha looks right out of Dale's "Introduction to Maps" presentation. It's > anisotropy. Thing about what you'd > get if you subtract a gaussian sphere from a gaussian ellipsoid. You can > either model it with anisotropic > B-factor refinement (perhaps just that atom) or maybe split the residue by > adding an alt conf. > > Paul. > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > > This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a > mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are > available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] how to swap chain IDs
Dear Christian What exactly are you trying to accomplish? I don't quite follow why you would expect the atom positions to change? Unless I'm missing something? Also, why would you expect the numbering to change when you edit the chain ID? After CIF conversion: What do you mean by "original position"? What position where you expecting? And you mention that chain A is not at the beginning of the sequence. What sequence are you talking about? Coot or pdbset can definitely do want you want, I'm just not sure what exactly you're after. Perhaps a more elaborate explanation would be good? Best regards Folmer Fredslund man. 7. dec. 2020 18.49 skrev Christian GALICIA < christian.galicia.diaz.sant...@vub.be>: > Hello, > I'm trying to swap the chain IDs of a structure. I tried changing the IDs > in coot and with PDBset, both change labels of the chains but not the atom > positions nor numbering.Also, after the pdb file is converted to cif for > deposition it displays in pymol in the original position making chain A not > to be at the beginning of the sequence. I would appreciate if you would > suggest a good way to achieve this. The structure is otherwise finished and > will no go any other rounds of refinement. Thanks > > Christian > -- > *Christian Galicia* > E-mail: cgali...@vub.be > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] Phenix refine distorting a sidechain despite correct density
Dear Igor There's a phenix bulletin board for question like this, which is where you should post the question. ( I crosspost here) I would choose to not do the real space refinement in phenix.refine during the last rounds of refinement of a model, when sidechain positions are essentially correct. I hope this helps Folmer tor. 3. dec. 2020 05.48 skrev Igor Petrik : > I am refining a 1.71A X-ray structure with phenix refine. I have > everything modelled in - ~150 residues in the ASU and a heme - and my > R-work/R-free is 0.17/0.22. But when I went to deposit it, PDB pointed out > that two of my sidechains have distorted geometries. One is a His, and > looking at it in Coot, I can clearly see the 2Fo-Fc density for the correct > geometry, but the actual coordinates that phenix refine produce don't lie > in that density; there are significant difference map peaks showing that > the coordinates are in the wrong place. If I use real space refine in Coot > to put the coordinates back into the correct density and refine it again in > phenix, they get distorted again. > > What settings in phenix should I check to try to get it to properly refine > the coordinates? > > Thanks, > - Igor Petrik, PhD > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] I cannot download xds
Dear Murpholino, Perhaps you accidentally came upon a rare server outage? Or perhaps you had a problem locally? Did you try other programs to download or investigate the problem in any other ways? Historically and anecdotally, I've never had issues downloading XDS from the website. I normally use wget from a bash script. As John wrote there doesn't seem to be any issues now. Cheers søn. 28. jun. 2020 04.50 skrev < 0c2488af9525-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>: > Hello, it downloaded to my phone from the link on this page: > > http://xds.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/html_doc/downloading.html > > It looks alright: > http://u.cubeupload.com/jbcooper/20200628034613.jpg > > Jon Cooper > > On 28 Jun 2020 01:39, Murpholino Peligro wrote: > > ``` > ~/Downloads$ aria2c > ftp://ftp.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/pub/kabsch/XDS-INTEL64_Linux_x86_64.tar.gz > > 06/27 19:36:10 [NOTICE] Downloading 1 item(s) > [#3065b2 0B/10MiB(0%) CN:1 DL:0B] > ``` > > It stays there forever. > Is there an alternative download url? > > > Thanks > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with structural alignment
Dear Ishan Would it be possible for you to use a fitting of the atoms of the ligand? I've done that with success before. Hope this helps Folmer man. 16. dec. 2019 07.38 skrev Ishan Rathore : > Hi, > > I am trying to compare multiple homologous structures of a protein, where > I am analysing the active site residues and the bound substrate/peptide. I > have used multiple methods for alignment in coot and pymol. Every > method gives a slightly different orientation in the active site. Based on > the analysis I am trying to propose a hypothesis for the catalytic > mechanism of the protein. But, I am a bit wary of getting biased with the > alignment if that supports my hypothesis. > > What are the parameters that have to be considered for a reliable > alignment? > What are the other Softwares available for alignment? > > > > Thanks and regards > Ishan > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1
Re: [ccp4bb] Coot on Macosx Catalina
Hi Jan If I remember correctly, you need to start the program once by right-clicking, and choosing "Open" from the menu. Then you can choose "trust this program" (or something similar) and you should be able to use it as normal after that small extra step. Hope this helps, Folmer Fredslund lør. 19. okt. 2019 00.48 skrev Jan van Agthoven : > Hi everyone, > I'm running into issues installing coot on Macosx Catalina. When install > the system using BINARY.setup the following message shows up: > > Does anyone else faced this problem? Is there a way to work around it? > Thanks, > J. > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1
Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating RMSD of a loop
Dear Kyle, As other non-CCP4 solutions have also been suggested, perhaps I can suggest using PyMOL? https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Align Here's a nice wiki article about what you can do with the align command. If you're already familiar with scripting languages it's quite easy, and you can load your already superimposed structures and calculate on the selection you want. Hope this helps, Folmer Fredslund tir. 17. sep. 2019 15.42 skrev Kyle Gregory < 3632e92fcc15-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>: > Hi all, > > What is the best/easiest way to calculate RMSD of a loop for 2 c-alpha > aligned structures? > Thought I could do this in Coot but I only see this if I align the > specific loops, which I don't want to do. > > Thanks, > > Kyle > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1
Re: [ccp4bb] PyMOL now packaged as a snap on Linux
Hi Darren, That's brilliant! I'll give it a spin and see how it works. Best regards Folmer tor. 16. maj 2019 13.02 skrev Darren Hart : > Since yesterday, PyMOL (open source version v2.3) has been packaged as a > distro-independent "snap" that can be installed easily on linux > platforms - no more cloning from gitlab and compiling after installing > the dependencies. > > On Ubuntu, install from software centre or: > > sudo snap install pymol-oss > > Many distros have the snap architecture already installed. If not, you > just need to install snapd in the regular way first (e.g. on Debian: > sudo apt install snapd). > > Hope this is useful for some folks. > > Best regards, > > Darren > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1
Re: [ccp4bb] PISA command line
Hi Wolfram, I just tried running pisa 5jju -analyse 5jju.pdb pisa 5jju -list interfaces with PISA v.2.1.1 built 05-04-2017 with SSM v.1.4.0, SRS v.1.0.0, MMDB v.2,0.17 on Ubuntu 16.04 and that seems to work as expected. Hope this helps, Folmer On 2018-07-06 19:54, wtempel wrote: Hi, has anyone of you performed a PISA command line analysis using the version distributed with CCP4 on ubuntu-16.04? My attempt to "-list interfaces" after seemingly successful "-analysis" resulted in a core dump: PISA v.2.1.1 built 05-04-2017 with SSM v.1.4.0, SRS v.1.0.0, MMDB v.2,0.17 Session some_name Segmentation fault (core dumped) Any suggestions? Thanks. Wolfram Tempel To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1
Re: [ccp4bb] processing hd5 files from Dectris detector
Dear all, With respect to the usage of the XDSAPP program, it depends on the generate_XDS.INP script. For our local installation, I have edited the script to include the "LIB=/path/to/dectrisneggia.so" in the resulting XDS input file and this works as expected without any problems. This does depend on knowing the location of the file on the filesystem, and hence not really easily portable. Nonetheless and easy and quick workaround for a local system. Best regards Folmer Fredslund Staff scientist DTU Biosustain fre. 1. jun. 2018 11.04 skrev Harry Powell < 193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>: > Hi > > Laurent has contacted me off-board about this and sent me an example of a > CBF file extracted from the HDF5. > > As far as I can see, there is no problem with the CBF file created by > eiger2cbf - it can be processed correctly by iMosflm, and the miniCBF > header is not missing any of the information that Mosflm requires. > > From this, I think that there's an issue with XDSAPP - so probably > something for Manfred to have a look at! > > In answer to Kay's questions - > > (1) Massif-1 > (2) That would be my first port of call... > (3) not tried yet... > (4) the exact error messages start with what Laurent gave originally, i.e. > - > > Some important experimental parameters are missing from the images header > > > which is not so useful, but there is an additional traceback - > > Some important experimental parameters are missing from the images header > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/mnt/maredsous/programs/bin/xdsit.py", line 4018, in >manual_process() > File "/mnt/maredsous/programs/bin/xdsit.py", line 3897, in manual_process >manual_index() > File "/mnt/maredsous/programs/bin/xdsit.py", line 3885, in manual_index >print(params['detector']) > KeyError: ‘detector' > > > Harry > -- > Dr Harry Powell > Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic > Computing) > > > > > On 1 Jun 2018, at 07:21, Kay Diederichs wrote: > > Hi Laurent, > > this prompte a couple of questions - > 1. where did you collect the data? > 2. can this not be answered by the beamline staff? After all they should > know their detector, and procedures for use of its data. > 3. what are the exact error messages when using the neggia plugin? I guess > Dectris would care if their plugin cannot read "their" data. > 4. what are the exact error messages / missing items when using eiger2cbf > / hdf2cbf-mini? > > best, > Kay > > On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:58:52 +0200, maveyrau > wrote: > > Hi CCP4ers > > > we recently collected many datasets on dectris detectors producing hd5 > files. I would like to use some auto processing tools to process them > (xdsapp, xdsme…). As far as I can say, xdsapp or xdsme cannot process hd5 > natively. I tried to convert them to cbf format (eiger2cbf, > hdf2mini-cbf,...), but then it seams that the header of the caf files are > lacking some required informations… > > > Any idea how to convert hd5 files to complete caf files ? Are there any > plans for xdsapp to be able to work on hd5 files ? > > > thanks for your help > > > Laurent > > -- > > Laurent Maveyraud laurent.maveyraud AT ipbs DOT fr > > P I C T --- Plateforme Intégrée de Criblage de Toulouse > > Université Paul Sabatier / CNRS / I.P.B.S. UMR 5089 > > Département BiologieStructurale et Biophysique > > http://cribligand.ipbs.fr http://www.ipbs.fr > > 205 route de Narbonne 31077 TOULOUSE Cedex FRANCE > > Tél: +33 (0)561 175 435 Mob.: +33 (0)646 042 111 > > -- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1 > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1
Re: [ccp4bb] mmCIF and CIF
Dear Oliviero, The suggestion made by Tim Grüne is probably best, you didn't specify exactly what you have in the mmCIF file. Anyway, openbabel should be able to read mmCIF files and write a CIF, (https://openbabel.org/wiki/MmCIF) Best regards, Folmer On 2017-11-14 14:16, Oliviero Carugo wrote: Dears, does anybody know how to transform an mmCIF file of the Protein Data Bank into a CIF file (the slightly different format used in small molecule crystallography)? Thanks, Oliviero
Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD between superposed structures without moving
Hi Johannes, Did you read the PymoWIKI entry on the align command? https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Align#RMSD I think this should give you what you want within PyMOL. Btw, there is a nice dedicated PyMOL mailing list https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/PyMOL_mailing_list It is rather low traffic, but the replies are generally from the developers or very knowledgeable users. Hope this helps, Folmer Fredslund On 2017-08-27 13:09, Johannes Sommerkamp wrote: Hello everybody, I have superposed two structures based on the central beta-sheet CA atoms with the "super" command in Pymol. Now, I want to calculate the RMSD between ALL atoms or ALL CA atoms without moving the structures again. The rms_cur command in Pymol would do that, but only works if all atom identifiers match. Adding "transform=0" to the super, oder align command still does the alignment and moves the structure but does not show the movement. Is there an easy way to just calculate the all atom RMSD between two already superposed structures in pymol or any other programm? Thanks in advance! Johannes
Re: [ccp4bb] Remittance advice - Invitation to edit
Dear all, Just to point out the obvious (I hope) this is spam and points to a scam site trying to acquire your Google account password (in case you have one). Sorry to spam the list, just writing in case anyone stumbles upon it and thinks it's legit. Best regards, Folmer On 2016-12-05 14:34, Yong-Fu Li wrote: Please find attached for your review. Regards. Y.-F. Li
Re: [ccp4bb] Good 3D Monitor for Molecular Modelling
Hi Matt, Have you tried looking at these pages: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Stereo https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Stereo_3D_Display_Options HTH, Folmer Fredslund On 2016-10-27 17:20, Matthew Graf wrote: Hello All, I am looking for suggestions on a good, but not too costly, 3D monitor for visualizing pdb structures and looking at outputs of modelling programs. I am not personally a structural biologist, but am on the hunt for someone who is. All help appreciated. Kind regards, Matt
Re: [ccp4bb] completeness drops from conversion from XDS to Fs
Hi Tommi, Could it be the bug that was reported in June? https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind1606=ccp4bb===119181 Obviously if you recently updated XDS is can't be that. HTH, Folmer On 2016-10-21 18:00, Kajander, Tommi A wrote: Problem solved, or well, circumvented - for the record: This seems to happen during XDSCONV indeed (F2MTZ seems to dump half the reflections?) and running via aimless seems to work. Either there is a bug with the conversion in the SG or I made some mistake (which i cant quite figure out now). Thanks for comments! Tommi On Oct 21, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Kajander, Tommi A> wrote: Hi, This seems very stupid but I have some data sets processed with XDS with apparently close to 100% completeness (high symmetry F4132) only 50 (or 100) degrees of data, fine, but still looks complete overall, given the high symmetry, though low res could be better. After running it via XDSCONV to truncate for a check, or to phenix - I get a completeness of ca. 50% for the Fs… … cant quite figure out where this is coming from…? Never happened before. Too tired now. Any suggestions? Tommi
Re: [ccp4bb] How many is too many free reflections?
Hi Graeme, There's a very nice page on the (unofficial?) CCP4 wiki about it http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Test_set For structures with a lot of reflections, a rule of thumb would be that 2000 free reflections would give an adequate reliability in the free R factor. Hope this helps, Folmer Fredslund 2015-06-02 12:26 GMT+02:00 Graeme Winter graeme.win...@gmail.com: Hi Folks Had a vague comment handed my way that xia2 assigns too many free reflections - I have a feeling that by default it makes a free set of 5% which was OK back in the day (like I/sig(I) = 2 was OK) but maybe seems excessive now. This was particularly in the case of high resolution data where you have a lot of reflections, so 5% could be several thousand which would be more than you need to just check Rfree seems OK. Since I really don't know what is the right # reflections to assign to a free set thought I would ask here - what do you think? Essentially I need to assign a minimum %age or minimum # - the lower of the two presumably? Any comments welcome! Thanks best wishes Graeme -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-EM
Hi Faisal, I guess a start for you would be to go here: http://www.ccpem.ac.uk/ and subscribe to that mailing list :-) Best regards, Folmer 2015-05-19 9:01 GMT+02:00 Faisal Tarique faisaltari...@gmail.com: Hi everyone A bit off topic..but..I request you to please suggest me some good readings related to Cryo-EM.. Thanx in advance -- Regards Faisal School of Life Sciences JNU -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Strange Ancient Diffraction Pattern...
Hi Julia, This was clearly taken at MAXlab, since it's a very distinct Swedish pattern. I would guess I911-2, unless of course it is a very old one from I711. There was a problem once, where the header of the file didn't get written correctly. Can you index it if you manually guess the beam position (somewhere behind the beamstop) and input it to imosflm? It should work, although you might have to try a number of guesses, seing the beamstop is so big. HTH, Folmer 2015-04-01 14:00 GMT+02:00 Julia Griese gri...@dbb.su.se: This one appears to be of a similar age. It has a most puzzling, but pretty pentagonal pattern (and a backstop). Unfortunately Mosflm doesn't appear to support the image format. /Julia On 01/04/15 13:08, Harry Powell wrote: Hi Jacob I noticed that there's no backstop shadow that might give a clue as to the direct beam position. Do you know what wavelength radiation was used to bake this? On 1 Apr 2015, at 12:03, Keller, Jacob wrote: Can anyone index this? It's got mostly split spots and a strange diffuse scattering background JPK *** Jacob Pearson Keller, PhD Looger Lab/HHMI Janelia Research Campus 19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147 email: kell...@janelia.hhmi.org *** roundmatzah.jpg Harry -- Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Francis Crick Avenue, Cambridge Biomedical Campus, Cambridge CB2 0QH Chairman of International Union of Crystallography Commission on Crystallographic Computing Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic Computing) -- Dr. Julia Griese Postdoctoral Researcher Stockholm Center for Biomembrane Research Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics Stockholm University 106 91 Stockholm Sweden phone: +46-(0)8-162 778 email: gri...@dbb.su.se -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Absence of contact between layers in a crystal
Unfortunately, the structure and associated paper for PDB id 2hr0 has _not_ been retracted, or marked as invalid. The University of Alabama had a note about it, but only some of the affected PDB entries were removed. http://www.uab.edu/reporterarchive/71570-uab-statement-on-protein-data-bank-issues For 2hr0, the Nature letter ( http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v444/n7116/full/nature05258.html) and the associated structure has not been removed from the archives. Best regards, Folmer Fredslund Disclosure: I published the structure of native bovine C3 (2b39) 2015-02-06 12:08 GMT+01:00 David Briggs drdavidcbri...@gmail.com: Haven'tthat paper and the associated structure been retracted? http://www.nature.com/news/2009/091222/full/462970a.html There was a huge scandal when it was discovered that Krishna Murthy had falsified data, including the structure you refer to. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.M._Krishna_Murthy A crystallographer with a wikipedia entry for all the wrong reasons... Dave On Fri Feb 06 2015 at 11:02:12 AM Kerff Fred fke...@ulg.ac.be wrote: Hello, Looking at structure 2HR0 (The structure of complement C3b provides insights into complement activation and regulation. »,Abdul Ajees, A., Gunasekaran, K., Volanakis, J.E., Narayana, S.V., Kotwal, G.J., Krishna Murthy, H.M.; (2006) Nature 444: 221-225), I noticed the absence of contacts between layers in the crystal. Is it something that has already been observed in other crystals? Best regards, Fred - Frédéric Kerff Chercheur qualifié F.R.S.-FNRS Cristallographie des protéines Centre d'Ingénierie des Protéines Université de Liège 17, Allée du 6 Août - Bat B5a 4000 Liège (Belgium) Tel.: +32 (0)4 3663620 Fax: +32 (0)4 3663772 Le 6 févr. 2015 à 10:12, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Smith, The sca file most likely does not contain flags. pointless can read the sca file, standardise it to ccp4 standards and freerflag marks random reflections. You should use the maximum of 500 unique reflections or 5% of the unique reflections, whichever is larger. Best, Tim On 02/06/2015 09:49 AM, Smith Lee wrote: Dear All, I have a sca file. Will you please tell me by which software or how I can know whether the sca file contains R-free tags? If not, by which software or how I can add the R-free tags? And how much of the reflections I add the R-free tags? I am looking forward to getting your reply. Smith - -- - -- Dr Tim Gruene Institut fuer anorganische Chemie Tammannstr. 4 D-37077 Goettingen GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFU1IWVUxlJ7aRr7hoRAmZHAJ4+6wREnwkFN0EhfErAA0tPSopKKwCgiLdi j0JFZac4kAh8twpov71MG84= =XN57 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Absence of contact between layers in a crystal
Hi Fred, 2015-02-06 11:58 GMT+01:00 Kerff Fred fke...@ulg.ac.be: Hello, Looking at structure 2HR0 (The structure of complement C3b provides insights into complement activation and regulation. »,Abdul Ajees, A., Gunasekaran, K., Volanakis, J.E., Narayana, S.V., Kotwal, G.J., Krishna Murthy, H.M.; (2006) Nature 444: 221-225), I noticed the absence of contacts between layers in the crystal. Is it something that has already been observed in other crystals? Come to think of it, in the communication ( http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v448/n7154/full/nature06103.html) Ajees et al., mention that they actually don't have gaps, but just some low occupancy contaminant that makes crystal contacts. So, even with this structure being fraud, you would not be able to use it as an example of absence of crystal contacts. Best regards, Folmer Fredslund Best regards, Fred - Frédéric Kerff Chercheur qualifié F.R.S.-FNRS Cristallographie des protéines Centre d'Ingénierie des Protéines Université de Liège 17, Allée du 6 Août - Bat B5a 4000 Liège (Belgium) Tel.: +32 (0)4 3663620 Fax: +32 (0)4 3663772 Le 6 févr. 2015 à 10:12, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Smith, The sca file most likely does not contain flags. pointless can read the sca file, standardise it to ccp4 standards and freerflag marks random reflections. You should use the maximum of 500 unique reflections or 5% of the unique reflections, whichever is larger. Best, Tim On 02/06/2015 09:49 AM, Smith Lee wrote: Dear All, I have a sca file. Will you please tell me by which software or how I can know whether the sca file contains R-free tags? If not, by which software or how I can add the R-free tags? And how much of the reflections I add the R-free tags? I am looking forward to getting your reply. Smith - -- - -- Dr Tim Gruene Institut fuer anorganische Chemie Tammannstr. 4 D-37077 Goettingen GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFU1IWVUxlJ7aRr7hoRAmZHAJ4+6wREnwkFN0EhfErAA0tPSopKKwCgiLdi j0JFZac4kAh8twpov71MG84= =XN57 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] rebuild by coot
Dear Dialing, You can use Rotate/Translate zone ( https://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/Personal/pemsley/coot/web/docs/coot.html#Rotate_002fTranslate-Zone) to do that, just clicking twice on the same residue to chose a zone of one. mvh Folmer 2015-01-15 14:45 GMT+01:00 Dialing Pretty 03f1d08ed29c-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk: Dear All, If I rebuild a 4-residue peptide, and the first 1 is leu. When I rebuild the first one, the sidechain of leu occupies the electron density of the first 3 residues. Can you tell me the method to turn the side chain of Leu from position of the first 3 residues to its sidechain position in the electron density may? In addition, for coot real space refinement, can you tell me how many residues or the length of the fragment one time can process? Dialing -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] A Moleman alternative?
Dear Yong, It's easy enough to get it, http://xray.bmc.uu.se/markh/usf/ Even though there's no development or support. Best regards, Folmer Fredslund 2014-11-17 20:55 GMT+01:00 Yong Tang liutan...@gmail.com: Dear all, I have no access to Moleman now but I need to compile a statistics table for a structure, more specifically, for its atom numbers (protein/ligand/water), B factors, RMS deviations etc. Is there an alternative program for that in the CCP4 suite? Thank you in advance for your help, -yong -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] How to run CCP4 without source command
Dear Peter, Put your source command in your .bashrc file. It's a hidden file (because of the dot in the start) in your home folder and will be run every time you open a terminal, so any command inside will be executed. You can edit the file by typing gedit .bashrc Just after opening a terminal. If you just started using Linux and you're interested in an introduction to how Linux works, I'd recommend the Linux Foundations free online course https://www.edx.org/course/linuxfoundationx/linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-2-introduction-5386 Especially if you are not working in a lab were people can help you with questions like the one you just asked. Venlig hilsen/Best regards Folmer Fredslund Den 16/11/2014 07.34 skrev 陈昂 angsc...@outlook.com: Dear all: I have installed CCP4 suit on my computer. The OS IS fedora 18. Every time I open the software, I have to use the command source. Does anyone else can run it in terminal without that command? Thank u so much! best regards, Peter
Re: [ccp4bb] Amino acid side chains without density
Dear Sasha, There was a survey done by Ed Pozharski back in 2011 The results of the online survey on what to do with disordered side chains (from total of 240 responses): Delete the atoms 43% Let refinement take care of it by inflating B-factors41% Set occupancy to zero12% Other 4% Reference: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind1103L=CCP4BBD=0P=321265 So, the other way (appart from what you mention) is to keep the atoms and let the B-factors refine to relatively large values. Best regards, Folmer 2014-11-11 14:14 GMT+01:00 Sasha Pausch sashapau...@gmail.com: Dear CCP4bb, Sorry for asking a naive question. I am trying to deposit a structure in PDB. I would like to know whether we have to delete the side chains of amino acids for which we are not finding density or people prefer keeping the side chains occupancy zero? Is there any other way to do this? -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] R free flag missing after ARP/wARP?
Dear Lu Zuokun, The option you mention do not use the Free R flag, tells ARP/wARP to do refinement without using the R-free flags, so it does not seem strange to me that it would output a file without those labels. I don't know why this would be a good idea, though, if you want to continue building on this model with those same R-free flags. The manual says: The default is not to use Rfree, since the number of traced residues serves as excellent indicator of the success of the job. You can certainly turn the use of Rfree on. (http://www.embl-hamburg.de/ARP/Manual/UserGuide7.4.html) Maybe the thought is that the free reflections will be uncoupled during further building and refinement? Best regards, Folmer Fredslund 2014-10-20 4:41 GMT+02:00 luzuok luzuo...@126.com: Dear all, I was using ARP/wARP in ccp4i, the input mtz file certainly has free R flag, but the output mzt file doesn't have the free R flag label? I chose do not use the Free R flag in the ARP/wARP GUI. Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this? best reagrds! Lu Zuokun -- 卢作焜 南开大学新生物站A202 -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] how to get a reflection cid file from PDB
Hi Yu (posting to the board for reference) To get the cif files is quite easy E.g. at http://pdb.org/pdb/explore/explore.do?structureId=2v5p you'd go to the lower right part and get the structure factors from the experimental details box. At http://pdbe.org/2v5p you would click the experimental data link to be able to download the file. If you are using phenix (it looks like you are) then phenix.fetch_pdb is much easier to use! There's also a phenix bulletin board you should use for questions relating to phenix ( http://www.phenix-online.org/mailman/listinfo/phenixbb) Also, if you have a recent version of COOT, then it can calculate a map for you on-the-fly through the extensions - PDBe menu. Be aware that the version of COOT distributed with CCP4 does not work, but the versions from http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/Personal/pemsley/coot/devel/build-info.html works. (The problem seem to be a change in the way PDBe was storing their files) Best regards, Folmer 2014-08-21 9:53 GMT+02:00 Yamei Yu ymyux...@gmail.com: Hi all, I download the mmcif file from PDB entry 2V5P, and then I use phenix.cif_as_mtz (or cif2mtz ) to try to convert the cid file to mtz file but I got the following error message:” Sorry: Please specify one reflection cif file.” I also tried several other PDB entries but got the same error message. Where is the reflection cif files located in PDB? How to get the original diffraction data from PDB? Thank you so much for your help! Best wishes! Yamei Yu Sichuan University,Chengdu,610041, P.R.China Tel: 15882013485 Email: ymyux...@gmail.com ymyux...@163.com yamei...@scu.edu.cn -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] IUCR bibtex
Hi Kavya, If you mean the file located at ftp://ftp.iucr.org/templates/latex/iucr.bst I have just sent it to you. Best regards, Folmer 2014-08-18 7:23 GMT+02:00 Kavyashree Manjunath ka...@ssl.serc.iisc.in: Dear users, Sorry for an off topic question. I would like to request if anyone can mail me the iucr.bst file for bibtex. The website hosting this file is not opening. Thank you Regards Kavya -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] 100.000?
Hi Tim, I think its easy to find: pdbe.org/latest (found by googling around a little, and knowing that the PDBe usually have some very nice short url's) As far as I can see, the release for 2014-05-07 had 154 new structures in the PDB. Best regards, Folmer 2014-05-10 22:00 GMT+02:00 Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de: Hi Gerard, does that mean there are more than 70 structures released in a week? I know the number of entries grows exponentially, yet having it cut down to a graspable number makes it even more impressive. Cheers, Tim On 05/10/2014 09:33 PM, Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: See: http://www.wwpdb.org/news/news_2014.html#06-May-2014 Even if you don't deposit anything, we'll reach the 100,000-entry milestone with next Wednesday's release :-) --Gerard On Fri, 9 May 2014, mesters wrote: Great, just a few more structures to deposit and then 100.000 structures to celebrate and that in the IYCR2014 :-) - J .- -- Dr.Jeroen R. Mesters Deputy, Senior Researcher Lecturer Institute of Biochemistry, University of L?beck Ratzeburger Allee 160, 23538 L?beck, Germany phone: +49-451-5004065 (secretariate 5004061) fax: +49-451-5004068 http://www.biochem.uni-luebeck.de Http://www.biochem.uni-luebeck.de http://www.iobcr.org Http://www.iobcr.org -- If you can look into the seeds of time and tell which grain will grow and which will not, speak then to me who neither beg nor fear (Shakespeare's Macbeth, Act I, Scene 3) -- Disclaimer * This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. * E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Please send us by fax any message containing deadlines as incoming e-mails are not screened for response deadlines. * Employees of the Institute are expressly required not to make defamatory statements and not to infringe or authorize any infringement of copyright or any other legal right by email communications. Any such communication is contrary to Institute policy and outside the scope of the employment of the individual concerned. The Institute will not accept any liability in respect of such communication, and the employee responsible will be personally liable for any damages or other liability arising. Employees who receive such an email must notify their supervisor immediately. -- Best wishes, --Gerard ** Gerard J. Kleywegt http://xray.bmc.uu.se/gerard mailto:ger...@xray.bmc.uu.se ** The opinions in this message are fictional. Any similarity to actual opinions, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ** Little known gastromathematical curiosity: let z be the radius and a the thickness of a pizza. Then the volume of that pizza is equal to pi*z*z*a ! ** -- Dr Tim Gruene Institut fuer anorganische Chemie Tammannstr. 4 D-37077 Goettingen GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 BB email change
Hi Arnau, You can find all the information you need here: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4bb.php Just subscribe with your new adress, and unsubscribe your old one. Best regards, Folmer ps: actually the following information is available in the header of the emails sent to the CCP4bb: List-Help: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?LIST=CCP4BB, mailto:lists...@jiscmail.ac.uk?body=INFO%20CCP4BB List-Unsubscribe: mailto:ccp4bb-unsubscribe-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk List-Subscribe: mailto:ccp4bb-subscribe-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk List-Owner: mailto:ccp4bb-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk List-Archive: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?LIST=CCP4BB 2014-02-20 10:29 GMT+01:00 Casañas Arnau acasa...@mol.biol.ethz.ch: Hi, is it possible to change the email to which my ccp4i bulletin board emails get sent? The new email address is arnau.casa...@psi.ch Thank you very much, Arnau Casañas, PhD Institute of Molecular Biology and Biophysics ETH Zurich Schafmattstr. 20 HPK H10 8093 Zurich Switzerland +41.44.633845 -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] I/sigmaI or I/sigmaI
Dear Qixu Cai, You can find information about where to find the archives here: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4bb.php#archives Best regards, Folmer 2014-02-19 14:44 GMT+01:00 Cai Qixu caiq...@gmail.com: Dear Richard Gillilan, Where to find the archives of Dec 2003? I can only find the archives until 2007 at jiscmail. Thanks. Regards, Qixu Cai 发件人: Richard Gillilan r...@cornell.edu 答复: Richard Gillilan r...@cornell.edu 日期: 2014年2月16日 星期日 上午12:19 至: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 主题: Re: [ccp4bb] I/sigmaI or I/sigmaI There was an informative discussion on this very topic back in Dec 1-2, 2003 if you browse the CCP4BB archives. Richard Gillilan MacCHESS On Feb 12, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Cai Qixu wrote: Dear all, Does the I/sigmaI in “Table 1” mean for I/sigmaI or I/sigmaI ? Thanks for your answer. Best wishes, Qixu Cai -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] resubmission of pdb
Hi Faisal, There is one thing I don't understand: Some time back i had submitted a coordinate in PDB but because of unacceptance of the manuscript we had to retract the submission Why would you need to retract your deposited structure just because the paper describing the structure didn't get accepted? Venlig hilsen Folmer Fredslund On Jan 31, 2014 10:04 PM, Faisal Tarique faisaltari...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all Dear Dr. PDB, Some time back i had submitted a coordinate in PDB but because of unacceptance of the manuscript we had to retract the submission. During this procedure i got few zipped file from the annotator such as 1. rcsb0.cif-public.gz, 2. rcsb0.pdb.gz and 3. rcsb0-sf.cif.gz..Now i want to submit the same ..My question is what is the best way to do it again..?? Should we start from the beginning through ADIT Deposition tool and resubmit it with a new PDB id or there is some way to submit again those zip files which the annotator sent us after retraction..May you please suggest what could be the easiest way to submit our structure to PDB without much efforts. -- Regards Faisal School of Life Sciences JNU
Re: [ccp4bb] How to show the ligands (both as sticks and sphere) as shown here in Pymol
Hi Wei, I think it's easier to do with a surface representation. I'd do something like this: # start script fetch 3b6a, async=0 as cartoon extract ligand, c. c and organic util.chainbow(3b6a) color green, elem c and ligand color oxygen, elem o and ligand show surface, ligand set surface_mode, 1 set surface_color, yellow set transparency=.5 show sticks, ligand set stick_radius, 0.4 show sticks, c. c and i. 130 set cartoon_side_chain_helper, on zoom ligand # end script And then you'd have to mess around with the view/colors of course. Hope this helps Folmer ps: there's actually a PyMOL bulletin board :-) https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users 2014/1/20 Wei Shi wei.shi...@gmail.com Hi all, Please see attached Fig where they show the ligand both as sticks and spheres at the same time. Does anyone happen to know how to display the ligand like this? Thank you so much! Best, Wei -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Who's Afraid of Peer Review?
Hi Navdeep, I feel disappointed. (not your fault) I was hoping to see what kind of science was behind the computer program that generated the unique papers. That doesn't seem to be contained in the linked article. The article does, however, seem to be lacking in peer review itself? Or can anything be done in the name of journalism? Why were only open-access journals selected? I guess I'm just repeating the questions that many others have asked since the publication. Best regards, Folmer 2013/10/9 Navdeep Sidhu nsi...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de John Bohannon wrote about his experience writing a computer program to generate hundreds of unique papers. Thought some of you might find it of interest: John Bohannon. Who's Afraid of Peer Review? Science 342 (Oct. 4, 2013) 60-65. DOI: 10.1126/science.342.6154.60 http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6154/60.full Best regards, Navdeep --- Navdeep Sidhu University of Goettingen --- -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Docking models into low-res SAD map
Hi Anindito Sen 2013/9/20 Anindito Sen andysen.to...@gmail.com skip . You can also use Pymol (but I think thats not free any more??). /skip I do not know what your definition of free is, but PyMOL is an open-source project. You can download the code from http://sourceforge.net/projects/pymol/ To me, that means free. It is also possible to pay for PyMOL http://www.pymol.org/pymol which will give you an easy installer for windows and support amongst other things. Sorry for the OT post, Folmer -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] I can not find edstat in ccp4i
Hi Ezequiel , It doesn't work on windows as far as I can see from the README file. ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4/6.3.0/unpacked/src/edstats/README Best regards, Folmer 2013/9/9 Ezequiel Noguera back_nogu...@yahoo.com.ar I'm trying to run edstat, but I can not find it in the list of programs of CCP4-6.2 or -6.3. How I can run it under Windows? Thanks -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic, visualization
If you play around with the settings you can do something similar (this is for surface, but should work for spheres also) http://www-cryst.bioc.cam.ac.uk/members/zbyszek/figures_pymol#cut mvh Folmer 2013/9/5 Ethan A Merritt merr...@u.washington.edu On Thursday, 05 September, 2013 13:30:21 Arthur Glasfeld wrote: I am hoping to create some images of protein cross-sections where the atoms are depicted as spheres, and the spheres that are cut by the slab are shown as solids with the same color as the surface. An example of what I'm after can be found here: people.reed.edu/~glasfeld/xsection.jpg Does anyone know of any software that can produce similar images? http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/raster3d/raster3d.html Thanks, Arthur Glasfeld Reed College Portland, OR -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] a new version of XDS
Hi all, Nice with a new version (I guess that means improvements :-) Before I upgrade, I just have one question: Does the change in the XPARM.XDS format mean that software such as xia2 will be broken? Thanks, Folmer 2013/5/29 Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de ... is available for academic users at http://homes.mpimf-heidelberg.** mpg.de/~kabsch/xds/ http://homes.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/~kabsch/xds/ Please note that there are some incompatibilities; most notably, the new format of XPARM.XDS is different so that the new INTEGRATE does not work with an old XPARM.XDS. best, Kay -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] a new version of XDS
Hi Alun, Thanks! I should have checked the blog (xia2.blogspot.com) myself. mvh Folmer 2013/5/30 Alun Ashton alun.ash...@diamond.ac.uk Graeme is away this week but was working on the problem before he went away. Looking at his update on the XIA2 blog it does look like at least the SVN version of XIA2 should be ok, older versions/releases of XIA2 are unlikely to work. Alun ___ Alun Ashton, alun.ash...@diamond.ac.ukmailto:alun.ash...@diamond.ac.uk Tel: +44 1235 778404 Scientific Software Team Leader, http://www.diamond.ac.uk/ Diamond Light Source, Chilton, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0DE, U.K. From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Sebastiano Pasqualato Sent: 30 May 2013 07:55 To: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] a new version of XDS Hi Folmer, it's just a matter of time, you know, given the short-living license of XDS. ;-) Anyway, I second the request, ciao, s On May 30, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Folmer Fredslund folm...@gmail.commailto: folm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Nice with a new version (I guess that means improvements :-) Before I upgrade, I just have one question: Does the change in the XPARM.XDS format mean that software such as xia2 will be broken? Thanks, Folmer 2013/5/29 Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.demailto: kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de ... is available for academic users at http://homes.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/~kabsch/xds/ Please note that there are some incompatibilities; most notably, the new format of XPARM.XDS is different so that the new INTEGRATE does not work with an old XPARM.XDS. best, Kay -- Folmer Fredslund -- Sebastiano Pasqualato, PhD Crystallography Unit Department of Experimental Oncology European Institute of Oncology IFOM-IEO Campus via Adamello, 16 20139 - Milano Italy tel +39 02 9437 5167 fax +39 02 9437 5990 -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Rfree flag
Although it is not mandatory, I think it would be a very good idea, especially if you have the exact same spacegroup and the native and ligand-bound forms of your protein are essentially the same. If you do not use the same reflections, you are actually not reporting an independent (free) R-factor. Best regards, Folmer 2013/2/28 Prof. K. Sekar se...@physics.iisc.ernet.in Dear Kavya, It is not so. It is not mandatory. best, Sekar Dear users, Is it mandatory to use the same reflections for Rfree calculations of a ligand bound data as that of its native? Thank you With Regards Kavya -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Could you kindly confirm the safe receipt of this mail please All best wishes and regards, Yours sincerely, Dr. K. Sekar, Ph.D. Associate Professor Bioinformatics Indian Institute of Science Bangalore 560 012 INDIA E-mail: se...@physics.iisc.ernet.in Tel: 91-(0)80-22933059, 23601409, 22932469 Fax:91-(0)80-23600683, 23600551 Homepage: http://www.physics.iisc.ernet.in/~dichome/sekhome/index.html -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- Folmer Fredslund
[ccp4bb] Building sugars
Dear all, What's the correct way to build and refine sugar polymers? I am currently building several structures with different kinds of sugar polymers bound to them. Searching for similar ligands in the PDB, I end up with e.g. trisaccharides that are named as one molecule, even though they are indeed made up of three individual sugars with bonds between them. Thank you for any pointers. Best regards, Folmer -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Building sugars
Hi all Thank you all for your replies. I might have expressed myself poorly, but I am not talking about covalently linked sugar modifications, so for my purpose there's no need to be concerned about insertion codes ;-) The glycosciences.de link is really useful. There does not seem to be a test to verify correct PDB nomenclature though. Or perhaps RAF (for raffinose, a tri-saccharide) is OK to use? Best regards, Folmer 2013/2/21 Robbie Joosten robbie_joos...@hotmail.com Hi Folmer, Just to add some tips: Concerning the naming as one molecule: the sugar monomers get the same chain ID as the protein they are connected to and arbitrary residue numbers. I usually start numbering from 1000 to prevent overlap with the numbering of the amino acids. 1) Just don't use insertion codes, some people find it upsetting ;) And keep the residue numbering consistent between NCS copies. 2) The glycosciences.de portal has many tools for dealing with carbohydrates: http://www.glycosciences.de/ I really like PDB-care and CARP for validation in the building and refinement process. 3) When using TLS you should try to figure out whether it's useful to add the sugars to the group of the linked protein residue or to have specific groups for your sugar trees. Cheers, Robbie HS. From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Folmer Fredslund Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:33 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Building sugars Dear all, What's the correct way to build and refine sugar polymers? I am currently building several structures with different kinds of sugar polymers bound to them. Searching for similar ligands in the PDB, I end up with e.g. trisaccharides that are named as one molecule, even though they are indeed made up of three individual sugars with bonds between them. Thank you for any pointers. Best regards, Folmer -- Folmer Fredslund -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Boveral in SFCheck
Hi, Sorry Eric I don't have an answer for your question. off topic: From the University's announcement ( http://main.uab.edu/Sites/reporter/articles/71570/) you would have thought that they had asked for this entry to be removed. But if I understand correctly, this is is completely at the discretion of the depositors in question. mvh Folmer Fredslund 2012/12/14 Zhijie Li zhijie...@utoronto.ca ** Hi, Seems not officially retracted from Nature either. On the paper's web page, there was only a line in small font read like this: There is a Brief Communications Arisinghttp://www.nature.com/uidfinder/10.1038/nature06102(9 August 2007) associated with this document. It took me more than half an hour to find this line. I normally won't read any line above the title. Now it proves to be a bad habit. I am still trying to find this line in the PDF. Zhijie *From:* Michael Hadders mhadd...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2012 2:57 AM *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Boveral in SFCheck Hi, 2HR0 I would stay far away from that one! It is a made up model, not based on any real data. Unfortunately, for reasons unclear to me, this structure has still not been retracted from the PDB. This B factor could just be a figment of the senior authors imagination https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind0912L=CCP4BBD=0P=88327 Regards, Michael On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Eric Williams ericwilli...@pobox.comwrote: Please pardon me if this is a dumb question with an obvious answer... I'm parsing SFCheck's plain text output as part of my dissertation, and I'm having trouble identifying one of the values. There are three overall B-factor values reported, one based on the Patterson origin peak, one based on the Wilson plot, and one that remains a mystery to me. Here's the relevant line (from 2HR0) with some lines before and after for context: R_stand(I) = sig(I)/I :0.397 Number of acceptable reflections: 194123 for resolution : 45.33 - 2.26 Optical Resolution: 1.80 Boveral,Effres,Padd: 40.751 2.032 777.887 Expected Optical Resolution for complete data set: 1.80 / Optical resolution - expected minimal distance between two resolved peaks in the electron density map./ Resmax_used(opt): 2.26 The mystery value is Boveral. I've found no explanation for it in either the SFCheck manual or the original journal article. Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but someone would really make my day if they could point me in the right direction. Thanks! :) Eric -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] manipulation of water molecules in pdb files
Dear Zhiyi, I think that sortwater (http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/sortwater.html), will do something along what you want. Remember to read the documentation ;-) Best regards, Folmer 2012/7/30 Zhiyi Wei ustcwebri...@gmail.com Dear all, I have a refine structure with 8 ncs copies and several hundreds of water molecules (which was put in one chain). Now I try to separate these molecules by renaming to the chain id of each adjacent protein molecule. I know RCSB can do this during deposition process. Do anyone know a program can do a similar task? Many thanks! Best, Zhiyi -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] pymol question
Hi Sebastiano 2012/5/18 Sebastiano Pasqualato sebastiano.pasqual...@gmail.com Hi all, is there a way in Pymol to have a loop/tube representation of the protein backbone that would pass through the N-CA-C-N(+1)-CA(+1)-C(+1) atoms rather than CA-CA(+1) atoms? I know this is possibly not what you are after, but what about show lines, name n+ca+c or show sticks, name n+ca+c ? It won't be a smooth loop, but maybe usefull? I remember something like this (a loop vs turn representation) in Molscript or Ribbons, but can't find it in Pymol. I'm using Pymol 0.99rc6 You might want to consider upgrading. And also subscribe to the pymol users mailing list https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users Hope this helps , Folmer Thanks all in advance, ciao, Sebastiano -- Sebastiano Pasqualato, PhD Crystallography Unit Department of Experimental Oncology European Institute of Oncology IFOM-IEO Campus via Adamello, 16 20139 - Milano Italy tel +39 02 9437 5167 fax +39 02 9437 5990 -- Folmer Fredslund, Post doc The MAX IV laboratory
Re: [ccp4bb] Ubuntu Maverick and coot menus
Dear David and everybody, lørdag den 11. februar 2012 skrev David Schuller dj...@cornell.edu: On 02/11/12 14:15, Nat Echols wrote: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, hari jayaram hari...@gmail.com wrote: There has been a lot of opinions within the Ubuntu community about Unity..just wondering what coot-ers are using with the new Ubuntu(s). ... If this is a reliable indication of where Ubuntu is going in the future, I need to find a new favorite distribution. that seems to be a common sentiment: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/ubuntu-sees-massive-slide-in-popularity-mint-sprints-ahead-but-why/16550 Ubuntu sees massive slide in popularity, Mint sprints ahead... Please note that this is based on pageranks from distrowatch, i.e. this only shows something about what pages on distrowatch people have been looking at. It shows absolutely nothing about what people actually use. With respect to the ubuntu UI, I personally am happily using it. As far as I understand, the old gnome UI was abandoned for version 3.0 and canonical (company behind ubuntu) decided to go somewhere else ( thats the short description). anyways: You should be able to disable the global application menu as shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu Best regards Folmer -- === All Things Serve the Beam === David J. Schuller modern man in a post-modern world MacCHESS, Cornell University schul...@cornell.edu -- Folmer Fredslund Maj Allé 86 2730 Herlev Mobil: (+45) 61 468 009 Mail: folm...@gmail.com
Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: Installing ccp4-6.0.99e on 64 bit Ubuntu - Bioscreencast Wiki (works for 32-bit also)
Dear all, I tend to use Google's cached versions or The web archive http://www.archive.org/web/web.php leading to http://web.archive.org/web/20100814204611/http://www.bioscreencastwiki.com/Crystallography_Howtos/Installing_ccp4-6.0.99e_on_64_bit_Ubuntu Hope this helps someone... Best regards, Folmer 2011/10/4 Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu I think I captured most of it in the attached. Hope this doesn't violate anyone's copyright: -- Folmer Fredslund, Ph.D.
Re: [ccp4bb] unusual sighting of a crystal structure
Nice find! ;-) Just in case anyone want to see it IRL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYSyuuLk5ghd=1t=38s Regards, Folmer 2011/7/16 Artem Evdokimov artem.evdoki...@gmail.com: Fellow structural biologists, I just caught a brief glimpse of a crystal structure (looks like an Fv complex or maybe an IG-like receptor ectodomain complex?) in the trailer for the upcoming 'scary virus' movie Contagion and thought you'd want to share the amusement. Sorry about the 300K attachment :) Artem
Re: [ccp4bb] exploding hydrogens during real space refinement in coot
Dear Kendall 2011/2/10 Kendall Nettles knett...@scripps.edu: When I real space refine my ligand the hydrogens fly away. The ligand pdb file and cif file were generated with progdr. I'm using Coot 0.6.2-pre-1. Kendall This could be a problem with the naming conventions of pdb versions. I don't remember which version Coot uses, but here is an old thread on the subject http://www.mail-archive.com/coot@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg00405.html Best regards, -- Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] COOT water retention problem...
Dear Myron, What is wrong with using the Delete Item option from the menu? It's gives you a couple of choices, one of which is waters. Means that you will only delete waters when selecting in the main window. That is the way I do it anyway. Best regards, Folmer Fredslund 2010/11/10 Smith, Myron myron.sm...@evotec.com: Has anyone ever accidentally placed a water molecule onto the exact position of selected atom and tried to delete it? How was that achieved? I actually saved the pdb file and deleted the text line of the coordinates for the offending water, then reloaded the file. Is there any other procedure that does not require external manipulation of the file outside of COOT? Regards Myron Evotec (UK) Ltd is a limited company registered in England and Wales. Registration number:2674265. Registered Office: 114 Milton Park, Abingdon, Oxfordshire, OX14 4SA, United Kingdom
Re: [ccp4bb] how to superpose density maps?
Hi Mark. This is hidden in the Extensions menu. Extenstions - Maps- Transform map by LSQ model fit Or at least that is what I think you want. Best regards, Folmer Fredslund On 28 January 2010 15:29, Matt Warkentin mattw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I have a seemingly simple task that I can't seem to figure out how to do: I have a bunch of structures with same space/cell that I want to compare in coot. It is easy to superpose the models, but I would also like to superpose the maps. Is there a simple way to do this? If not, is that because there is a good reason not to? Thanks Matt
Re: [ccp4bb] Electron Density Maps
Dear Pascal, 2009/8/10 Pascal Egea pas...@msg.ucsf.edu: Dear All, I am currently carrying the refinement of a structure and comparing the results obtained in Refmac, Phenix and CNS. While Phenix and Refmac write maps and their corresponding coefficients in mtz format allowing display of 2Fo-Fc and Fo-Fc maps in COOT, the corresponding Fo-Fc map as written by CNS does not show positive and negatives peaks. There is density but it does not look like why I would expect for a Fo-Fc map. Why is that? Is your map read as an Fo-Fc map? I guess not... I believe there is a way to tell COOT that you want to load you CNS map as a difference map. This section http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~emsley/coot/doc/chapters/user-manual_6.html#SEC160 of the user manual might explain better. Hope this helps, Folmer Fredslund
Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser SAD+MR followed by CNS
Dear Kelly-Anne 2009/3/27 Kelly-Anne Twist wils...@rockefeller.edu: Hello all, I have a structure that has been solved by MR and now have experimental SAD phases that I hope will improve the map. I used Phaser for this from within the CCP4i suite but I would like to take the solution and work with it further in CNS. Is there a way to generate a .hkl file from the Phaser output .mtz file? There is also the possibility to check the CNS pages at http://cns-online.org/v1.21/ (also nice to have if you get further problems) and they also have a page on converting to hkl format: http://cns-online.org/v1.21/tutorial/sf_convert/mtz_to_cns/text.html Best regards, Folmer
Re: [ccp4bb] two identical proteins in one asymmetric unit
Dear Sang They are really different! And I guess you would probably want to use NCS restraints depending on your resolution. Regards, Folmer 2009/3/24 Sang Hoon Joo s...@duke.edu: I am refining my crystal structure in which I have two identical chains in one asymmetric unit. Space group is H32 and each chain yields me a biological trimer as expected. The problem is, do I have to assume they are identical, or they are really different. After each cycle of refinement, if I try to align two molecules I get ~ 0.17 RMSD. -- Sang Hoon Joo, PhD Postdoctoral Associate Duke University 239 Nanaline H. Duke Box 3711, DUMC Durham, NC 27710